Rabbi Steve Leder: Clearing out the Clutter, Nonlinear Grief & Finding Gratitude in the Mundane
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- Rabbi Steve Leder, author and Senior Rabbi of Wilshire Boulevard Temple in Los Angeles, breaks down the beneficial and harmful aspects of religious structure on mental health and sense of community. He details his childhood in the midwest where he worked at the family junkyard under strict, religious parents, and how stealing Bob Dylan albums led him to the hippie rabbis who changed the course of his life. Mayim and Rabbi Leder reexamine the true meaning of sacrifice, the evolution of Judaism, and how religious extremism and radical secularism can negatively impact mental health. Mayim opens up about the role religion has played in her own life and sense of identity, and how Judaism’s structure of processing grief helped her to effectively mourn her father’s death. After analyzing the ways in which society can rebuild trust in its institutions, Mayim and Rabbi Leder discuss how impactful changes in our micro communities can lead to macro effects and the importance of learning from those with differing beliefs. Mayim explains how a disconnected marriage can affect mental health during an installment of Ask Mayim Anything.
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I telling you, I AM LOVING THIS MAN! I have been raised Roman Catholic but have felt for a long time that I could soooo easily be a reform Jew! This guy just makes sense! I am NOT used to hearing common sense from religious leaders! Thank you for this pod cast with this man!
I know, right? My first church as a kid feels like it was in line with this Rabbi's outlook. I had a very positive experience and then when we moved, I never ever found it again. Same denominations but so different. But Rabbi Leder, wow, it felt like I was back "home" yet progressed to the adult stages. It was like God's love was unconditional again.
I was just typing something similar
Check out Michael S Heiser here on TH-cam, a no-nonsense biblical scholar 💖
I'm not Jewish bit wow I might be if I could have this guy for my rabbi!
This man's need for clear definitive lines shows what Jesus, who was Jewish, went thru among the rabbis of his day too.
Old Testament law was "an eye for an eye" retaliation. Stoning adulterers. Corporal punishment. Jesus said "but i say, if someone takes your coat, give them your shirt. Do good to those who do evil to you." So Jesus advises breaking the old laws.
The Pharisees, who loved clear boundary lines & rules, didn't cotton to this. He wasn't Jewish enough. He made a Samaritan, not a Jew, the hero of his most famous story.
The Buddha, Socrates, Jesus & Martin Luther all broke the rules of their creeds. Buddha was a Hindu, not Buddhist. Socrates didn't worship the Greek gods. Jesus was Jewish, not Christian. Luther was Catholic, not "Lutheran." Let's get over it, & quit leaving logic out of our faith. "'Come, let us REASON together,' saith the Lord." (Isaiah).
When TH-cam first recommended this podcast and I saw that all the videos are over an hour I thought no way I am gonna listen to it, but after several weeks I listened to one episode becuase I knew the guest and since then I just can't stop watching and listening....
I don't know half of the guests in this serious, but I found each of them fascinating, opening new worlds and new concepts to me...
Thank you Mayim and Jonathan for the great work you are doing, I genuinely enjoy every minute.
Same. I found this podcast though a Jeanette McCurdy 'Nightmares of Nickelodeon' video, how crazy is that? I now have watched this podcast many times and enjoy the tone, the humor, the guests, and the topics.
cleaning out everything you've been told to think and being able to think for yourself and connect with your own spirituality is more fulfilling than anything you've been told to think by other humans.
I needed to be reminded that 1 there is no wrong way to grieve and it comes in waves that can come out if nowhere years after a profound loss
100%
O-M-G! This is THE GUEST, in caps! This is THE EPISODE, in caps! This is THE ONE, in caps! You, Mayim and Jonathan are THE BEST PODCAST CREATORS, in caps! You may never imagine how healing to me has been this episode. How, after a suicide of a brother and not even a year after the death of both of my parents with only three days of difference, I wanted to watch, to hear someone to talk about GRIEF the way Rabbi Ledder does here. Of that grief that comes in waves, or in tsunamies, devastating long ones, even mixed with the guiltiness of not having detected what was going in my brother’s mind to stop it…Crying, and I’m not easy with tears, and from the deepest of my raised Catholic heart, I can only say THANK YOU Mayim, Jonathan and Rabbi Leder! 🙏🏽 And Shabbat Shalom!
Wow, bless you, in your profound heroic journey. They are free and you are doing the hard part, but you are probably the healer. Praying for the 3 of them & you, in God's huge kingdom.
@@lizafield9002 Thank you for your warm and tender words. Sometimes we enjoy the best part, and sometimes suffer the worse one. It’s life. I suppose that it is never given to us more than we can bear…💜
Love him. His book helped me get through the grief of losing so many clients from COVID.
My thoughts and gratitude go out to you for whatever you are doing.
This was probably my FAVORITE episode so far!! Wow!!! Thank you, Rabbi, for being so honest and uplifting!!! What an amazing way to begin Shabbat!!
Mayim, you are such a wonderful human. Thank you for sharing so much with us!❤️
Your podcast has the absolute best guest. People are able to learn so much from watching this. Thank you Mayim!
I agree with the previous speaker
This guest appears very intelligent and very into his religion.
t's happening just as I said it would...the healing phase of being "scared to death”is lung cancer, pneumonia, bronchitis and flu. You can also expect to see more appendix problems which are caused by being in fear for your life, feeling like a fish out of water, uncertain of your place in life. The longer the fear, the more serious the diagnosis. When the willful hostages are finally freed from their homes (because of media and government lies based on the fraudulent Germ Theory), and people begin to get happy and feel less stressed, the result will be the healing phase....of pneumonia, burst appendix, gallbladder issues, arthritis in certain joints, it’s all subjective to what your brain experienced at the moment of the conflict. The fear campaign has caused ALL the illnesses, not a Boogey Virus.
Every disease is based on the Germ Theory, which was the theory of ONE man over 100 years ago. It was never proven to be 100% valid, and has not even been QUESTIONED again. Why? In order for a theory to be valid, it must be reproduceable in each and every person 100% of the time. Every single person exposed to a "virus" MUST get sick from it 100% of the time, over and over again. It's how you PROVE a theory is valid. This was never done. Scientists used to think witches and witchcraft were valid!! Educated people?? hahaha!! If you cannot "catch" cancer, arthritis or diabetes from another person, then you cannot "catch" a cold or flu. There is no such thing that only SOME diseases are communicable, but not all. It's either all or none of them...they are all based on the same Germ Theory. If you can't "catch" someone's lung cancer, you can't "catch" their colds or flu. Upsetting and distressing events in a person's life is what cause ALL cancer and cancer-equivalent disease, cold, flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. The cause of death in Small Pox was PNEUMONIA, not acne lesions. The only people who “caught” Small Pox were the ones who were attacking each other..Indians and Militia....people who feared and were attacked by each other. A massive fear campaign will CAUSE people to be "worried sick", but sickness doesn't happen until people resolve their fears. Why do you think kids get sick in October? Because their fear of going back to school and being upset about it finally dissolves, and they get back into their routines. What the media and government is doing to people is criminal. Western Medicine is pure fraud. I can't be the only person in this disgustingly brainwashed world who knows about German New Medicine.
I agree with his answer to why people are “spiritual but not religious.” Being someone who says that, I am pushing away from the extremism that exists in the religions I have been a part of (mainly Catholicism). I would love to ask questions and listen to answers from the rabbi for hours! Have him back again to go deeper into this subject!
I avoided any contact with churches all during the last administration because it felt like I had misunderstood the teachings of Christ in comparison with the preaching, teaching and values espoused by many churches during that time. I don't know if I will ever go back.
I mentioned private jets and materialistic perks to megachurch pastors, but I forgot about the most mega church of them all - the catholic church. I know Jesus wouldn't appreciate the gold and jewel encrusted "everything" in the Vatican and how so much is not in the bible (old or new testament) This is another example of "organized religion" people run from.
I was raised in the Catholic faith. My family was super involved. We taught Sunday school; my parents and siblings were Ushers; my parents were Eucharistic ministers; my sister and I sang in the choir; we were all involved on the youth group; we all volunteered at the annual spring carnival. It was a huge part of my upbringing.
At 13, I decided organized religion was not for me and cut all ties to the church. I have only been back to celebrate sacraments for friends and family. I feel more connected with God now than I ever did when I was involved with the church.
I think there could have been more push back on some of his answers. Not everyone avoiding organized religion is doing so to because of extremism. There are a lot of examples of micro-aggressions against groups of people all in the name of God. Some of this come from the leaders of their organizations and followed by their congregants.
It's great that he wants to bring compassion and understanding in his leadership, but unfortunately, that's not true for all religious leaders, and they don't have to be extremist for that to be true.
This is a man after my own heart. I too was trained to help clean bathrooms as I was studying, and I feel like it has made me humble and it helped me understand that service in religious life is multifaceted. I love what the Rabbi said about fanaticism being what is dangerous and not religion itself.
I love Steve. I would like to expand on Elizabeth Kubler Ross's Five Stage of Grief. As time has passed in the field, the notion that the steps are linear is incorrect. The step's of bargaining may be what someone is doing immediately after a loss. Then perhaps, depression. It is not linear, but the stages are sound. We do experience these stages, but not from Denial to anger etc. Just putting that out there.
As a person of Christian faith, I really appreciated this episode. Especially, the rabbi’s explanation of how all religions are not the same. The discussion of the traditional Jewish rituals around the death of a loved one was very impactful as well.
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I am one of those "spiritual" people who no longer feel passionate about the faith I was raised in. I've often thought of converting to Judaism and yet I feel conflicted about Christ. So I wanted to say thank you for this episode. Rabbi Leder said some things that truly made me feel seen and understood. I appreciate your podcast so much.
Love this guest! Such wisdom. Would like to hear more from guests like him rather than Hollywood celebrities.
Saw a lot of people on twitter requesting to have Mayim talk about grief and here we have a podcast about grief. Love and appreciate that! ❤️
After a profound loss now nearly a year ago, i decided to allow myself to feel every feeling. I cannot say that I’m in a good place but it’s very helpful to know it was the right decision. However long it takes to grieve.
Thank you for teaching me about your culture.
I love when Jonathan gets some input, can’t wait to enjoy this brand new episode!
This was really interesting, as someone who knows very little about Judaism the process you follow for grief sounds very supportive and therapeutic.
It is occurring to me that this podcast might end. I love listening to these (even if I don't agree with the guest) they are so interesting and give insights into other ways of life. I hope this podcast keeps going.
What a powerful episode! I absolutely loved listening to Rabbi Leder. Thank you for this episode and your entire podcast 🙌🧡
I'm not a believer, but the more I hear about Judaism the more I can relate to and admire the Jewish tradition. It's such a beautiful and meaningful way of moving through the world.
"The Bible is not a book of facts but a book of truths. Not just my truth". So much wisdom captured in those few words. Great episode.
Agreed
How uncomplicated. Love it! As a Christian I love this. What a wonderful man.
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Rabbi Leder you are Awesome!
Thank you all so very much, again; and to Rabbi Leder! This was a fantastic episode. So wonderful to hear such great knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. I feel so blessed to be a part of the beauty of the Jewish community. Blessings and shabbat shalom!
This channel is absolutely amazing 💙 saving my sanity back in lockdown over here 😅😂🙌
I love your podcasts, Mayim, but this episode with Rabbi Steve Leder is the best. Thank you for inviting him!
Thank you all 3 of you. I deeply enjoyed this. I was raised in an extremist religious group and still have issues discussing religion, bible, practices. I appreciate the different perspective and knowledge shared.
Another charming, eloquant guest.
I've watched this 6 times now and thoroughly enjoyed it every time.
My favorite episode. I go back to this periodically as I have lost so many recently. Thank you!
Truly humbled by Rabbi Leder today. Thank you for having him on.
Very touching and reassuring program. Thank you for your great program.
Really really enjoyed this podcast. Rabbi Leder is such a wonderful, insightful, thoughtful and thought provoking person! I may need to listen to this episode again and purchase his books. Thank you so much for hosting this session. I am enjoying the podcasts so much! Thank you Mayim and Jonathan.
As Extra Mythology says, "Myths are not stories that are untrue... Rather they are stories that don’t fit neatly into the historical record... Which serve as a foundation to a culture."
Wonderfully insightful. I have worked in education and outreach for decades and have yet to hear so much clear insight.
Infinite love and gratitude
His wisdom teaches me so much. The Bible being a book not of facts but of truths\ really |helped me. I was Baptist and my church took every word literally. Very tough on a thinking person. I eventually left and joined a Methodist church. They see metaphors which is refreshing and looking for what it means for us today.
THANK YO!!
This podcast taught me so much about Judaism. I'm Baptist, but I have always loved learning more about all religions just so I can compare them all and be able to discuss religion with others that believe differently than me. I think everyone should learn more about different religions. Being educated helps me see that most religions have many of the same doctrines and paths to being a good person. There are a lot of differences between religions just as he said, and even though I learn about other religions I still feel like I have a community in Christianity. The church I grew up in really tried to make us feel like other religions are from the Devil and we shouldn't try to understand others that believe otherwise. I don't go to church anymore, but I still study the Bible alone and feel closer to God without the community of the church.
Wow! Mayim just described me perfectly when she was talking about how some people say they are spiritual but not religious. I'm really enjoying this episode (I actually have liked all of them, but never written a comment before). I am so glad I'm watching this!
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45 minutes in and wow how beautiful, I'm crying.
What an incredible gift this interview is! I'm one of those "spiritual, not religious" guys, and this was edifying and compassionate, and gave me so much to think about. I wish I would have heard the section on grief two years ago when suffering through the hardest loss of my life, but am so blessed to hear it now. Thank you guys for your awesome show and this wonderful interview.
I love learning so much from this channel. I know nothing about Judaism and am enjoying hearing about such great topics.
Can't wait to listen to this tonight before I get to bed ❤️❤️
This episode was absolutely what I needed to hear. I was raised Roman Catholic and have since drifted away. I've been lost when it comes to religion. I've been angry with religion as well. This episode has made some things very clear for me. I have already bought the books Rabbi Leder has written and cannot wait to read them. Thank you to you both for creating this podcast. It is helping me get through a rough chapter in my life.
I so agree with your interpretation of the Bible. I feel people limit themselves when they read as a book of facts. Truths and the messages between words and the poetry is what is important. I am not Jewish and enjoyed this podcast. thank you
"Hip Rabbis!" Got my attention & held it. Cooler than I thought an interview with a person who is professionally lŔeligious.
Thanks for this!
I lost my 14 year old son. We don't get "permission" to grieve. We are expected to be over it in two months and, life must go on. I would have loved to have a "tradition" to give me permission to grieve. It's 16 months later and life has been so full on. It's non stop chaos. You were blessed to have that permission Mayim. My deepest condolences to you and your family ❤ 🫂
What an amazing storyteller! I'm on the edge of my seat.
I appreciate the discussion about truth vs facts. His interpretation of stories is brilliant, and I'm grateful for a religious leader approaching religion from his standpoint. The idea that there is one true religion and any other "imposters" are invalid is why I left my church, along with the mean spirited hypocrisy of the parishioners.
What a wonderful person. Thank you. Wisdom
I greatly appreciate the wisdom, eloquence and compassion that Rabbi Leder expressed, and at the same time how he spoke up for religion as a useful part of the human experience. I grew up in and belong to a 'new' Christian organization that values the differences, or uses, of all religions, focuses on the truth in the Bible, and also the scholarly pursuit of the languages, cultures and religions in the Bible. (Hebrew, Greek, Latin; Christian, Judaism; the Tabernacle, etc .) The church I belong to of course holds the 10 Commandments as the most important rules to live by as well as several other key doctrines. As both Mayim and the Rabbi said, I believe religion can be very grounding, and crucial for maintaining a sense of belonging to this Earthly community.
As a confused Jewish girl, thank you all so much for sharing this.
Love these episodes! I don’t have to agree with all the assessments to enjoy what I hear / see & consider other viewpoints. Thanks for sharing such a wonderful platform!
Same, I'm an atheist myself but always try to learn about spirituality and religion to better understand the people in my life.
I don't agree with a lot of statements said in this and other videos, but I really enjoy watching them and learning new perspectives.
I'm a born and raised Spaniard and Judaism is not the main religion here, so I'm always happy to learn about it. 😊
For me this episode was brilliant I was glued to the tv listening really enjoyed it , thank you Mayim for continuing to make these podcasts your a star ⭐️ You are helping so many people I absolutely love you 😘 #ImwithMayim xx
I'm a 60 something white raised protestant woman. I loved this episode! Rabbi Leder ( I grew up very near to him and in the same time) echoed much of what I've learned in the last few years. Most especially about grief and gratitude. I'm also an alcoholic in a long time recovery. I learned early that gratitude was the thing that would save my life mentally and spiritually. Most days I could say that prayer and truly be thankful for that crust of bread. You two do work on your podcasts. Thank you all.
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That is really beautiful, thank you for sharing that... it was really a moving sentiment to this really great podcast and thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing your truth with the world. There are good people out there listening.
So inspired by his teaching
This is an amazing conversation. Thank you Mayim and Jonathan for sharing this with us. I learned so much.
One of your best. Thank you
My most favorite episode. The humanity and generosity of wisdom of Rabbi Steve Leder is inspiring ❤.
When I lost my fiancé tragically last year I stumbled upon this podcast and Michael Singer’s episode literally transformed my grief from paralysis (and wanting to end myself) to a deep sadness that could include gratitude and curiosity.
In the depth of my mourning I wished with all my heart I was Jewish as the rituals for death were clearly the most wise and profound.
I’ve learned that extreme views are ALWAYS harmful no matter the situation- true peace and transformation and love have a deep respect for other beliefs and true brilliance allows for different ideas. There are a handful of brilliant scientists and scholars I follow who have become stunted by dogmatism.
My sweet friends, this shiksa is in tears. I said, “grief is a wave” aloud, just before Rabbi Leder did. Being reminded that I am not alone in my grief is very comforting. Thank you.
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Such a wise guest! It is a pleasure listening to him!!! I'm learning so much! Thank you.
I thought my rabbi was cool when I went to synagogue as a kid, but he had nothing on this guy. Rabbi Leder is the kind of guy that gets me excited about being Jewish!
Rabi Leder is an amazing teacher.! What a wonderful perspective! I loved this episode
One of my pastor's favorite comment of a non-religious person on a funeral they had just attended in our church: "You Catholics do death well". It sounds like Judaism do it well too.
I love this rabbi!!!
I like this episode. Such profund words and wisdom. This kind of episode make us think about this beautiful life. Thankyou. Blessings
What a brilliant Brilliant man!
Finding this podcast😮, wow, a huge plus for my days, needed this right now. I cant take all that is said or offered at times but take what i can and love the respect given to people and issues. Thanks Mayim! ❤️
"A busy life and a meaningful life are not the same thing." 🤔
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"the prisoner can not free himself". Love this is so true. I get this 100%.
Lovely talk and great job you're all doing 💕
“A community of communities” 😮 oh I love this💕💝
Oh I do love you pointing out that radical fanaticism, extremism, rigidity is the problem; not specific religions.
Creating a sense of relative value to life is the problem.
Thank you so much for sharing this
I truly appreciate this particular episode. I have these same thoughts as a Catholic but have always been shunned from stating them.
Speak your truth my friend. Namaste!
Black Catholics in the house! I was raised Catholic as well.
I absolutely love this episode. I find the Jewish traditions fascinating, and I'm so happy you frequently talk about your faith. Not only do I learn more about you but I've come to learn so much about the Jewish faith. Rabbi Lederman provided incredible insight into so many topics. Thank you so much.
Outstanding!!!!!!
Mayim, thank you so very much. From my heart to yours. I’m grateful for you. I agree with this podcast. Absolutely 100% . Rabbi nailed it about only being human and control is a cancer. And I’m so happy also that he mentioned the New Moon because today is Sunday, the day after Sabbath and the moon phase. And today has been one of my most beautiful days. I’m unlocking the door to my biggest fear after 21 years. We speak what we become. And I am successful in all I do. Thank you so much for speaking on this message today. I needed it.
Best podcast ever Mayim. Thank you.
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Thank you for talking to Rabbi Leder. He put words around my feelings of why I love being Jewish. I have never in my 67 years been able to articulate my joy and what is behind it. Love your podcasts.
Wow all your video's are fantastic !!
Wonderful listening to Rabbi Steve Leder...thank you for providing such wonderful information.
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This episode really resonated with me. I loved the Rabbi taking about how the Bible is not full of facts but truths. OMGoodness I LOVE that thought. There were so many amazing concepts. I love the thought of religion evolving. This was an incredible insight into things that I have been taught and believed my whole life.
My favorite episode
Great show
I’m new to your podcasts and catching up on old ones. I listed this morning and can’t begin explain how moved I was. I was raised Italian Catholic and the death of my grandmother when she was only 49 rocked our family and we picked ourselves up and moved on. Fast forward to my Mom passing 16 years ago and I only WISH I was given a week a month a year to grieve my Mom and be cared for while doing it. The Jews sure do know how to grieve in a remarkable way. I think I cried as much this morning as the day she died. I was truly moved and affected by this episode. Thank you Mayim for helping us the way you do. 💙💙💙💙
I’ve been a fan since Blossom, and I so appreciate your podcast as a fellow mom in her 40s who is fascinated by brains and human behavior! Thanks for making my long drives and chores more interesting!
The past 8 years have been quite draining and I have been emotionally caring for family who didn't or whom I didn't allow to reciprocate the care that I gave because my guard is up due to their toxic behaviors and protecting myself in likely dysfunctional ways that need shifting. I'm exhausted. I really, really needed to hear this show tonight. It was just what I needed to validate how I've felt since I was young - a sense of hope and desire to help others. And, Rabbi Leder reminds me so much of my eldest paternal uncle who has such a zen and academically interesting approach to life and relationships.
You could see how deeply Rabbi Leder's words resonated with both Jonathon and Mayim. As a Christian, his words also resonated with my experience and belief.
As a Nordic Pagan, he also resonated with me.
grief is non linear 🤯🤯🙌❤ this episode blew my mind! I have also always thought that about the 5 stages of grief..it has always left me feel like a didn't do it "right"...now 16 years later I finally feel like I'm actually grieving the way I have always needed to. This episode has made me question my own religion in the best way and helped me make a realization that just because you were raised learning about one religion, doesn't mean that it has to be you life long religion.
ALWAYS enjoy this program👍👏👏👏👏
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Absolutely wonderful interview, Rabbi was such a clear, calm and wise communicator. I always learn something big in your podcasts ... thank you
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Beautiful insightful episode. Simply thank you ❣️❣️❣️
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This was by far the best podcast I heard in awhile. You're so funny! Very witty and clever. I loved this. I'll be listening more.
This man puts things in perspective in such a clean and clear way. I have a close friend who is a fundamental Christian and has kindly invited me to join her at her churches over several decades, but I always struggle with the exclusionary thinking, and keep looking for a path that is more inclusionary. It isn’t easy. I could listen to him for hours.
I listen and understand this particular view. It is a perspective of what these individuals express, es todo solamente.
I’m grateful when I get a good parking space! I say thank You Lord.
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I can so relate to feeling alone and no one cares and there is no help. Totally the depressed mind.
I am new to your podcast, love having you guys on while I’m on my way to work. Loved this episode so much!!!