Motorsport Games & NASCAR Have FAILED Us Again (Rant)
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Us Xbox users despise the update the most because you can’t even change your settings and you crash. You change your car and you crash. The game crashes immediately after an online race. The 2022 DLC can have incredible racing if the game could stop crashing. All of this is completely unacceptable.
Yep
I can’t even play it on PC. I’m not getting the dlc on the consoles.
I just refunded it so frustrating what’s happened to nascar gaming
Yes my Xbox is new and this still is happening I’m sick and tired of having to do this rediculous
PC users despise it the most because WE COULDN'T EVEN GET THE DLC TO LOAD, BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE THE 2020 SEASON PASS IN ORDER FOR IT TO WORK.
I've been saying for years that a great game would do a lot for NASCAR. NASCAR Unleashed was my biggest introduction, which led me to buying Inside Line. I ended up going to my first race, and I was hooked. It all starts with the games for some people nowadays. Im excited to see what Arcade Rush brings, and hopefully it does the same thing for many what Unleashed did for me
Exactly heat 5 wasn't even that good but it still got me hooked on NASCAR
There were great games, but there wasn't cheap great PCs, consoles or even the main stream marketing then. Marketing was aimed the fan who wanted to get more of a real feel of stock car racing. Ratbag put out some great Sprint car games too.
NASCAR console games were on a positive trajectory until the high point of 2004. Everything since has slowly been getting worse.
THANK YOU!!! I’ve been saying this FORVER!!! Bring in a new generation with solid games. That’s how you grow the business!!! A rocket league type nascar game, a legit Nascar sim, mobile game. It’s just sad that the creators of these games COMPLETELY MISS THE POTENTIAL
I felt every word. I remember back in 2009 when I was wondering what the news for a EA Sports Nascar ‘10 game and found out no new game was being made. I never would’ve expected at that point that we were going be where we are now
Can we all just unite together as a young NASCAR Fan Base and protest against the company and try to overthrow the board down?
You know how you effectively protest it? Don't buy it. If nobody buys the DLC, Motorsport Games makes no money. If they make no money, NASCAR makes no money, and if NASCAR makes no money, they will be more likely not to renew, possibly even terminate the contract with Motorsport Games.
@@harrisongrant8558 Good luck to NASCAR trying to get out of that contract though
@@dannyalex7152 they may not be able to voluntarily void it, but they could potentially sue Motorsport Games for breach of contract (as they have not really adhered to its terms, unless they count DLC for a 3-year-old game as a "new game") and have it voided that way, or just let the the contract expire and choose not to renew it.
@@harrisongrant8558exactly ive never bought 21 and never will
Yes yes yes yes
This is one of the reasons why I go back and play NASCAR Racing games today on the PS1, as their racing content and gameplay is simply better than today’s experience with the console titles.
Simple, I'll bet. Management considers the "game" done. So they took the more experienced people and sent them of to new projects the need experience. Now they put the newbies in, to do the DLC's because "that's the easy part." They don't know a "next-gen" from a "next pit stop".
I got into racing the old-fashioned way. As a kid, I went to the local weekly race tracks and paid my $1.50, got my 50¢ popcorn, my 25¢ Coke and watched races, growing knowing I was going to do that some day. At the age of 18, in 1974, I ripped the interior out of my old street car, slapped some numbers on the side, and went street stock (hobby stock, bombers, enduro, "B" class, whatever you're local track calls it) racing. You can still do that these days. Plus quarter midgets, Legend car, Bandalero classes that you could actually call real race cars. Kids as young as 5 do that. If people don't support local racing, NASCAR will become ALL like Formula 1, where every driver brings money with them in order to get a ride. It's easy to get involved. Guys are always looking for people to help. You may have to start out paying your own way in to the track, and spend an evening or two helping out at the garage. That's how a lot of guys got an opportunity to drive.
I'm 67 years old now and I can't afford iRacing. One year of true "entry level" racing I think can be done cheaper than one year of iRacing for someone who wants to maybe race for real, in serious race cars some day. Or you can stay in that entry level class for "$h!ts 'n 9r!ns".
BTW, I still stick witch NR2003. It's more of a sim, but it STILL has a viable community to keep it relevant. It really did end up being the beta version of iRacing, since the same people who started that whole franchise in the late 90s bought back their code and started building iRacing off the NR2003 code.
It is crazy that a free mod that HighTV, Scarzy, other members and I provide more features and content compared to the exclusive game developer for NASCAR games. It is time for NASCAR to terminate their contract with them. Heck, I would be okay with our mod team helping out with the next NASCAR game.
AAA EA nascar 2024 (Even more broken edition™) with every other driver/track locked behind microtransactions coming soon!
Then it would actually be good
I hate this company dude they screw it up every time.
When does Nascar hit a point when they can sue for some kind of breach of contract?
They can right now because msg has to release a game every year and they haven’t so they have already have a reason to sue or terminate the contract for breach of contract
Nascar got their money, they could careless about anything else...just like msg, they could careless how we feel
@@rollingthunder8378 they will probably just make another switch game
Really enjoyed this. 100 percent agree. As someone who’s about to turn 25. It was the NASCAR games that turned me into an avid fan. If NASCAR put in just half the effort like the NFL games, we would have amazingly detailed games that actually work. NASCAR is missing out because they do not understand this.
It honestly seems that they're just twiddling their collective thumbs until their license expires.
I called them out on the day of DLC and 103K saw it they pull the panic button.
Honestly I hope this is a top priority after the TV Deal is done.
That TV Deal should help garner a push towards growing the audience. Having a Console Video Game would help you in so many ways. They bungled the 75th Anniversary. Maybe this will get worked out so the 80th will have some Interesting DLCs that speak of the History of the Sport. (I mean Teresa probably won't allow Dale Earnhardt to be on there "officially" but there's always mods.)
I still find it disgraceful that the only way I can currently play at my Home Track (Nashville Super Speedway) is on what's considered to be the Worst Game in NASCAR History.
EA Nascar 2025 with every other driver/track as predatory microtransactions coming soon!
they basically just half fasted the dlc to take the pressure off them
As much as I want to admit, motorsports has ruined Nascar games for me, and i got Nascar heat for my switch and it's fun to a degree but honestly, motorsports has completely ruined Nascar games, and i understand that if people want EA back but here's the thing, Ea at the end of their run with Nascar, it wasn't good. We have to face facts, the last good Nascar game was Nascar 15. We will never get a good Nascar game ever again. And the most shitty part about it is, Nascar isn't connecting with the kids, Nascar is a declining sport, we all know that, the drivers has no personality, and Nascar hasn't been good since the 90s and 2000s, but knowing Nascar that will continue to say that they aren't declining, the ratings are fantastic, but i know that Nascar will continue this for many years, so im not really surprised about Nascars fall of Grace.
At this point they should port rivals over to PC and console. I'd be happy with that, I have rivals on the nintendo switch and overall it's pretty good for what it is. If they can't do that then nascar needs to pull out of the contract.
But switch is a console but rivals was exclusive to that console lol
@@awesomeseth01 And?
you would just be porting the same game back because the switch version is already a port from the xbox version
MG will find a way to mess that up, to say the least, in the nicest way possible.
Rivals is just a port of Heat 5 though lmfao.
I’m going back to playing NASCAR Thunder 2004
That’s why as a fan I go back to playing the old nascar games cause they were a lot of fun in all honesty
If somebody spent 10 dollars on anything this company made I don’t feel sorry for you. Just look at their track record. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results
Give me EA, I’ll buy everything individually, I just want a decent working game
hearing the Motorsport Games is the menace to the gaming society and the NASCAR fanbase
I tried the dlc on my xbox, it worked fine for me but I didn't like having to chose between the seasons everytime I start the game, so I just Uninstalled it😅
Its almost like they intended to destroy heat 5
Just that fact that 3,000 people have viewed this video in the first hour you uploaded it, proves to MSG and any and all other game developers sitting on their thumbs out there, that they are missing out on a goldmine of revenue from the NASCAR gaming community. If a new NASCAR game could be produced, with a decent rating, here is 3,000 X $ 60 = $ 180,000 in revenue potentially in the first hour of release!! I am baffled when game developers struggle to make profit making all kinds of shooting, fighting, hunting, fishing, zombie games; why can't they figure out that if they can provide a quality NASCAR racing game in a timely manner to the fanbase, the profits the company would earn would be enormous!! So, guys, get your shit together!!!
Bought the DLC and I. Will. Never. Ever. Buy. A. Motorsport Games. Release. I have played every NASCAR game since 2003. Have played the others before that back to NASCAR racing on ps1, and even bought ignition. IM DONE. Pathetic.
Nascar Inside Line is the only reason I'm a Nascar fan. This is unacceptable
Amen! I agree with you. iRacing official races are toxic. People need to grow up there and realize it’s not a game. Heat 5 is fun to play, cause, like you, I call other AI drivers names too. Preach it!
it is a game
@@bradleytucker2133 iRacing is not. It’s a simulation. I’m not here to argue.
@@kellylaw This is a pointlessly reductive thing to say lol.
What's also sad is how some players STILL play NR2003, and older titles from that same era, the amount of modding capability it has keeps it still fun and actually playable, disappointing how a current age game studio can't even release a DLC correctly.
And that’s why I’m going back to NASCAR Thunder 2004 because you can do sooooooooo much in the older games vs this bullshit that they have out now!!!!!!!
I can't get 5th gear to work on my wheel on pc with the dlc only 5 gear works if it's in automatic not clutch and shifter
i think nascar needs to buy out of the contract and give it back to monster and iracing
My DLC has nothing that works. The only thing that works is just doing a race, but then it kicks me out of the game.......
Well said. When Nascar was at its peak popularity wise, the video games were the best
I can’t even change settings without my game crashing lol
X box user here. I can’t even select a different driver other than Ty Dillion who is the first driver that pops up for any race mode without the game crashing. Really frustrating
Honestly Rivals upscaled on Yuzu looks as good as Heat 5. Why they couldn't just release Rivals upscaled on PC and console Idk
Because rivals is literally the switch port of heat 5?
I'm honestly glad heat 5 is broken now, its just making MSGM look worse and will get them away quicker
For anyone interested on xbox, if you delete your save data, it should stop crashing. To do this, go to:
manage game and add-ons -> saved data -> select your account -> delete everywhere
Note: ALL OF YOUR PROGRESS WILL BE RESET. If you have an in-depth career mode or championship season or something you don't want to lose, don't do it. I didn't have anything I wanted to save, so I just deleted mine and the game doesn't crash anymore. The fact that we have to do this anyways is ridiculous.
Will that get my paid paint schemes back?
@@SealegsSam no, for the 2020 season I'm still missing the Jimmie Johnson pack and the November playoffs pack. From my understanding, everyone on xbox has this issue.
@BB_Shockwave Damn me too those exact packs as well. Been looking for a work around though it probably is a lost cause. Lol
@@SealegsSam it's a really sucky situation, lol. Even people who didn't buy the DLC had those packs removed.
I think that it's time for the community to RAID NASCAR and MSG's DMs on social media. It's time they listen to us! WE WILL HAVE A GOOD GAME!
I honostly want the people who have made SRX and World Of Outlaws to make the next Nascar game and to just make a Grass Roots Asphalt game. I would lose my mind if i had a chance to play Legends,Street Stocks,Late Models and Pro Stocks hell even Whelen Modifeds i would love my life i would kiss every other game goodbye 100%
This is why I bought Iracing couple years ago cause of this, been giving them high hopes for many years but now this is where I stop giving them hope.
Just to be clear, You do understand MSG also produced Iracing correct?
No they did not. Former Papyrus members founded iRacing. MSG seemingly came out of nowhere and bought out 704 for the NASCAR rights and bought Studio 397 for rFactor. The ONLY game MSG has made at this point ground up is NASCAR 21
@@britannic27 No shit? Well I stand corrected and cheerfully withdrawn sir!
@@dontron6992 MSG wishes they could get that kind of polish lol
My game crashes after every online race and i have to close the game and relaunch it fast to get back in to the same lobby its getting old fast.
LETS GOO REALRANTMAN!! But for real I do love the rants haha
Dont know if anyone else had the same issue but it wont save anything for me on ps5. Every time I go open the game it acts as if I never played it before so every time I play it I have to do all my settings again and cant do a season because it wont save
I raced the my career Daytona 500 with the DLC on my ps4 I tried to race Las Vegas THE SECOND RACE OF THE YEAR but it doesn’t let me race it bc there’s a “error”
If you didnt buy the dlc, good for you, if you did buy it, get a refund and do it ASAP, RETRACT YOUR MONEY IF YOU CAN, DONT LET THEM GET AHOLD OF YOUR MONEY IF YOU WANT THIS CYCLE TO STOP!!!!
Bro went from radman to madman in one sec
Best comment yet 😂
I absolutely cannot stand this company. It’s so frustrating. I really got into racing and nascar as a kid because of nascar games. I wish we could just pound it through these suit’s heads that attracting a younger fan base and keeping them could be immensely helped by a good quality video game. Ditch Motorsport Games
This has me concerned for the indycar game now. If they can’t make a Nascar game, how in the world economy in the car on Le Mans racing game. Were they got working on the Indy game is probably the same crew that was NASCAR game before they got switched over to the other games. It’s sad and sad.
I actually feel bad for you radman I have ranted about this before and it just gets sadder by day and your right the potential and money in this could be amazing but they gotta step up and push for it sadly all we can do is wait
Maybe that's why the higher resolution more powerful systems have all the problems because it's more difficult to write games for those types of systems where the NASCAR rivals for Nintendo is concerned that game is on a less powerful system less resolution so it's easier to write that game in my opinion, if I'm wrong please correct me, but it just seems to me that there would be more work going into every aspect of the high-resolution more powerful gaming system.
Just so everybody is aware, if you make a custom season mode with the 2020 cars, You can add the normal tracks that aren't in 2022 version and then open up the 2022 version and still do those races
I asked for a refund on Sunday (Steam), and luckily It was accepted the same day...un fu,,,king belieav
As someone who works for a huge international company giving services around the globe, and also, the company has been struggling with cash. Taking into account that MSG is waaaayy worse, the only thing I could try to be supportive or understand is that, in my case, we are completely full of work and short staffed, the situation has resulted in several colleagues being let go because position changes and nothing else to provide. Evenb when we are working full, there are not new positions available, the work number was freezed and it is not going to increase in the near future. Hell, we even are veery limited to ask for overtime payment, like, not ask for it.
I liked what you said about season passes and stuff, that’s why the F1 games are playable for longer cause there’s always new stuff that’s getting added to keep you coming back
Yeah, my game is just straight up broken now with the DLC, crashes everytime I get to the intro screen
Since the update I can’t play my career mode at all.
I never even bought the DLC either that’s the weird part, I even tried uninstalling the game and reinstalling it still doesn’t work.
This is on Xbox Series (Next Gen)
Can some one call TakeTwo or EA and get a real company to make games and take the license from these amateurs.
But respect to you Radman call out this BS and you’re 1000% right the sport could be so much bigger now with games and the fact we dont have NASCAR experiences not just in SIM but ARCADE & other experiences like maybe a battle royale crossover, creative track builder style or endless runner or RPG or puzzle style games etc. shows that someone there isn’t thinking / has no plan to draw fans in… but simply building a good racing title, getting modes worth playing and drivers and liveries that get the young and old fans in should be so hard even if it’s not a yearly release
They got people like SloppyJoe and Rusty Walrus tweeting for them. They are two of the biggest clowns in nascar gaming history
Anyone else having issues with car speeds the AI blow by you at almost every track anyone else have this happen to them like in career mode in 22 mode daytona you jus get left in the dust right off start it crazy
Imagine a fully developed Nascar game made by either Forza or Gran Turismo with a create a team mode. Better yet, have it released as base game with yearly seasonal expansions every new year. I can dream can’t I.
I have had a good amount of luck with the dlcon xbox. Out of the 10 races ive tried in Race Now m, 7 actually worked. It doesn’t save but idc about that. Im just glad i can at Martinsville.
Honestly if NASCAR gives a crap about their fans they would yank the licensing rights from motorsport games. It would be nice to see NASCAR give it to monster games. Ive been playing the new world of outlaws game alot more as of lately. So much better quality than what Motorsports games is putting out
I will never give MSG money again after Rivals.
I never got to play the EA games but I heard they were good. I would love to see you eutechnyx come back then Motorsports game
Motorsport Games is emblematic of the entire industry at this point… and tbh the rest of the industries. Corporations are getting record profits while we pay top dollar for worse products, smaller portions, and empty promises, and the CEOs laugh at us while diving into swimming pools of gold like Scrooge McDuck and telling us to blame ourselves for not managing the crumbs we’re given. Don’t blame nascar fans for buying this, blame corporate America and short term shareholder culture for giving us nothing else.
Also frankly, nascar, IndyCar, BTCC, and WEC/ACO are downright negligent for continuing to put all their eggs in the MSG basket.
Perfectly said nascar and MSG have been a complete joke because they don’t care about the fans and honestly it’s ridiculous
im on ps4 playing the dlc and i cant start a career in the 2022 update, i cant finish a race in race now, i cant start a championship mode season without the game crashing, the farthest ive gotten to starting a 2022 dlc career was making my character thats it
Might need a new plan for the NASCAR gaming for future NASCAR games.☝
I love a good rant ❤ I’m right there with you. I feel this company just has to die.
Yea they completely broke it on Xbox series s I uninstalled the 2022 update and reinstalled just heat 5 with none of the dlc I had and the game won't even start vary disappointed because I actually played it every once I awhile because the Ai was not actually two bad but now can't even play the game at all
I can’t even get on heat 5 it won’t even work on my Xbox ever since the update to the dlc
I bought it and cant even select the seasons
I bought the 2022 update on pc and i didnt get it and unable to use the 2020 ones
We all were thinking it, he says it. Couldn’t say it better myself
I don't even watch NASCAR, it's just not for me, but I've been playing NASCAR games since the early PS1 games.
I love the Heat games for the most part, and the new DLC worked for me, but as soon as I noticed the photoshopped job on my name over the top of the real driver I replaced, I just laughed.
Most of us just enjoy racing games, and as you have said, Motorsport games and NASCAR are letting us all down.
NASCAR could have a game akin to the F1 games, which I play daily.
I drive Hendricks car at Fontana and go wide open around the track lap after lap
You had me until you said we would pay for every micro transaction . Its sentiment like that, that has allowed it to happen. If we don't buy it they will be forced to start to release full completed games again like they did in the 90's.
It might be better if NASCAR take their license away and hope iRacing could do better
I bought the update on my PS5 and didn't even work. They just stole $10 from me basically! Says the update was installed but no next gen cars I can't even choose the 2022 season it doesn't come up.
I bought it and Refunded it within two hours.
Worse graphics, No sounds, no ability to kick players online that just troll and wreck so you are stuck in lobbies with idiots. Career just crashes. Absolute disgrace i understand where the issues stem from and that it doesnt seem it but they are trying. I pray eventually We get the Nascar and Indycar games we want but until then idk what to do. Im just beyond excited for Forza Motorsport and to League Race again. It looks fantastic and thats what i hope i can say for Nascar and Indycar in the future.
I know they’re not going to put the race of the LA Coliseum in there but they really should and then they need to have an update next year for the 2023 paint schemes
At Atlanta they are stuck in 5th gear “the AI’s” that’s what’s wrong there
I think an even worse part is that people had to pay for this. I personally bought a more expensive version back in 2020 because I was promised all additional packs that came with game but then I don’t get the final 3 of 2020 and don’t get this update. Doesn’t much matter when the game doesn’t work anymore though.
They are just like EA with Madden
You can change your setup you got to go back to 20/20 then go back into 2022 I like like it they did a great job
I didn’t even buy it and with the recent update I can’t even get passed the user log in
Agreed Radman I don’t know why they can’t get codemasters to license the series that makes the grid series an they make awesome games they the ones that need to be making nascar games to me on all platforms an mobile devices cause Ea was the way to go when we was kids an younger back in the day an they made games right
Real lack of Knowledge how do I race for Kaulig and it's a 2 ⭐ team I'm finishing 25-30th but I race for another team and the 31 and 16 are in the top 5 in points ..
The difficulty not being able to be customized or even the cars ..
Might as well make a NASCAR Heat 6 at this point
Haven't followed Nascar games in a few years. Just bought Ignition and was completely pissed off when I drove into turn one because of how awful it is. So I bought Heat 5 and am somewhat surprised that it wasn't that bad. So is Ignition and Heat 5 made by the same people? Thought it was weird that content for Heat 5 is released when there is ignition.
Are u going to the Chicago street race also did u hear about Jimmie Johnson
Me personally. I haven’t experienced any of the issues you guys are mentioning. It’s been working perfectly for me.
11:36 i completely feel this, this is why i can't play gran Turismo 7 too much and i go back to project cars 2. The ai on pc2 are amazing and actually make mistakes.
Tbh IGNITION WAS GRAPHICALLY THE BEST, LITERALLY TAKE 21 and put heat physics IN GAME. Career mode isn’t hard, look at EA games for that simple to the point. That’s simple (I think) NASCAR IS GETTING POPULAR AGAIN NOW THE GAMING IS BEING WASTED AWAY!!
Come on ignition had an official day to night lap by lap, I love playing ignition for that sole reason.
That would sound like a good game to buy
I would hate to be a starbucks barista that gets this guy's order wrong
Downloaded the update and lost 1/3 of the paint schemes I paid for on the 2020 season. Also can not touch settings in 2 player mode without the game freezing. Horrendous lol. NASCAR games are becoming nothing more than a cash grab
I bought it, didn’t work once I bought it, tried it once and turned it off when I was only going 180 in Daytona
In season mode, after a race is over, I hit accept and the game crashes, every fucking time on the ps4.
If EA wasn't so gahdamn greedy and scummy, i wish they could remaster nascar thunder 2004, but that company needs to burn.
Every time they release a game I find crap that's wrong within the first 5 minutes. Things that are easily caught and should never make it through testing. I'm 100% convinced they don't test any of the products they produce. They release it in hopes the commnity will test it for them and tell them what's wrong. At that point they already have your money so they do not care. Been going on for years and a lot of the blame needs to be laid on NASCAR for continuing to let it happen.
I held off on the update cause I felt the update had nothing to offer cause I have rivals. Rivals as a damn paint booth 💀 and yet they wouldn’t even add that for the console/PC update. Real sad right? So that’s why I held off on the console and pc update completely
NASCAR rivals does have a crashing issue