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Ariel Pink is the greatest indie musician of the last 20 years in my opinion. He influenced and created the entire scene of hypnagogic pop, and brought back certain retro sounds to indie music that had long been thought of as discarded. Mac Demarco, Clairo, Steve Lacy, Joji, Foxygen, Connan Mockasin, Neon Indian, Washed Out All these people and many others in indie, alt music, and pop can trace their sound back to Ariel's singular sound. However following the 2020 election Ariel found himself on the wrong side of a vicious cancellation. The reason? His attendance of Donald Trump's inciting rally that preceded the capitol attack of January 6th. While Ariel himself was not at the siege, the fallout for his career was instantaneous. In this video we take a look at his immortal musical legacy, as well as the consequences of his newly acquired right-wing politics, the limits of cancel culture, and the importance of staying vigilant to internet algorithm manipulation.
00:00 Dies Irae
03:07 A Strange Melange
10:37 Under House Arrest
15:01 Let me Take You Higher (Fidelity)
20:23 2012(core)
23:50 Pom Pom Supremacy
26:03 Tragicomedy!
30:40 Free the Speech
40:10 Bullying in the China Shop
44:45 Picture Me Gone
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Hey all so like a year later thought I’d pin this comment. So when I made this video I was sort of jus figuring out my politics (20s is a bit late I know but forgive me) anyway I would say I’ve had a bit of political evolution since then and would consider myself much more of a moderate/centrist than I was then. Still maintain my criticisms in here of the MAGA movement, but I have recently been woken up to the very real extremism on the political left, so if I were to remake this video I would probably mention that a bit more but that’s life I guess
Explain yourself!
Please consider not mixing your political views into these types of documentary videos. Not everything has to be about you and your views. It hurts the value of the video as a historical piece.
Ariel Pink is brilliant artist. He's not a skilled speaker. He has valid points and is sincere in his beliefs. He should not have been cancelled like he was.
Love Ariel Pink forever. One of my favorite artists of all time. My husband and i’s first dance was to “baby” ❤
shame hes against that sort of thing though innit?
@@mrdick6953 he’s entitled to his views…but I still admire his art and music
@@mrdick6953against what
Ariel Pink is both a great artist and based.
He just put out a great song
You should interview Ariel
Ariel Pink is the GOAT! He is a genius.
Him supporting the President made me love him even more.
Same.
100%
This
Same.
same. The left has a false sense of moral and intellectual superiority. And how can they say shit with BIDEN in the white house now? Dude is a disgrace.
Ariel is so fkn BASED
So many labels. You are a cog in the problem machine. Live and let live. Just enjoy the music regardless
I love Ariel. Let him be who he is…stop trying to mold people to fit your expectations.
I still don’t know anyone else who listens to ariel pink, and his politics made me want to listen to him even more.
Gross
@@trashyraccoon2615 eat me
Ariel did nothing wrong and is a fucking genius. Don't care about the rest at all, especially the ridiculous woke patrol
woke patrol haha
I’m 53, raised Jewish, and love Ariel Pinks music. Based on how todays ‘left wing’ people behave and the policies they endorse, for all intents and purposes, today’s left are right wing extremists as leftists describe ‘evil right wing’ people. I mostly blame media corporations for this manipulation, but yeah, you guys really need to find principles beyond popular politics and stick to them. I’d like to remind all you self described leftists that Mussolini, Adolf, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, David Ben Gurion, FDR were all leftists. Everyone needs to calm tf down. Your conservative uncle isn’t a nazi and you, as a leftist, are not a genocidal communist. Get a grip. Ariel is 1000% right about where the world is headed - a global fascist dictatorship maintained by companionless technology.
I just lost brain cells reading that.
@@NAETEMUSIC I have to wonder what wtf they’ve been teaching your generation in school. When I was in school they were still having us read books like 1984 and Harrison Bergeron. I personally loved dystopian cautionary stories and movies. I feel like I’m now living in one. When I was a self described liberal what passes for “liberal” now would never fly - your generation has been fooled into being the exact thing they think they’re fighting. Say something dude, explain yourself - how is your generation going to stop a perceived fascism by imposing real world fascism?
But he's right.
You know Ariel is Jewish also right
Wrong. Those people you list are RIGHT WING SOCIALISTS, not lefties whatsoever in their social beliefs and views. Many of those men had the lefties rounded up an executed. Come on man, really? Lol
I never let politics or personal life or personality get in the way of whether or not I like the person’s artwork.
How about R. Kelly?
this is amazing and generationally so relatable.
His gender transgression, innovative music, creativity, forward-thinking innovation and so on that drew you to him in the first place have the same source as his contrarian politics. He doesn't like being confined and he loves to stick it to the man. In there there's also some genuine Ariel beliefs that you may or may not agree with but most of it is just a reaction to the shrink wrap put on people's minds with the tightening grip of culture wars and whatnot. One side or the other, it is getting harder to just be a person given the omnipresence and and expectations tied to this political warfare that we're all supposed to engage in.
You know it yourself, you don't have to give up on Ariel over this. Not because he is right with what he says, but because it's not coming from a place of hate but a place of rebellion. If Trump was the popular establishment figure in the media, maybe this video would be about how disappointed OP is about Ariel opposing him so vehemently. That's what I'm trying to say. Not to make excuses for some of the more outlandish things he says, but to underline that his motivations are those of a mid 00s liberal, ultimately.
Ariel is awesome. Didnt watch the video
I come back to rewatch this divine video a lot I think it’s riveting 💗
Great video, not sure why the comments are so inconsistent and hateful here.
You seem to have a great understanding of music in general but absolutely no idea how the real world works.
ariel is right about everything
100%
wah wah wah artist doesnt think the same way i do wah wah
crazy how life used to be about music but now it’s about who you’re tied with
lol I was at that middle east show!!! and the show @ the paradise for Mature Themes a few years later... it was so cool, everyone was hooked into roland cubes lmao
Thanks for making this! It’s been a mixture of emotions the past few years. After it all I can’t help but still return to his music & it’s great to have hope for his future & see others shining a spotlight on the magnificent art he’s put out despite his character flaws
He doesn't have any character flaws.
@@vertyisprobablydead Everyone has character flaws. The issue is moreso that everyone keeps focusing on his flaws when they have flaws of their own they should be focusing on.
Ariel Pink is that dude for real. Before Today is so killer
Immaculate video thank you I wish more people would make Ariel pink videos
Great vid, man!
Great video! Lots to unpack there. However you slice it, it’s undeniable he’s one of the most important artists of the 21st century
this is so good thank you ‼️
Woah, this is put together really well. A fantastic video-essay on Ariel indeed.
Mexican Summer blew it.
ok so, i havent watched this yet but i wanna mention ariel says "f* trump" at the end of the song 'queen of the vrgns" on his new record ariel pink's darkside.
I'm pretty sure it was facetious. He still supports Trump on twitter.
Don't call people "normies." You're not an exalted being because you listen to obscure music.
the main thing I've listened to was Pom Pom, and it was one of my favorite albums in recent years. I would still listen to it, tho not as often. But it did help influence the kinda music i got into, whether its people in a similar genre, or those who inspired him.
It's hard sometimes to seperate art from the artist, Kanye especially cause he's in the genre where you have to put a lot of yourself to it. Feels too coincidental the kinda mindset he has now was there all along in his early music.
I remember there was a tweet around the same time he got ridiculed for his rightwing views, responding to Fantano's on how the right wing is shit at making music, claim high and mighty that hes an example of the right making good music. Couldn't roll my eyes further if i tried.
You already mentioned that this recent hit wasn't the first time he faced controversy, i would hope that he'll see to his senses, but i'm not gonna hold my breath.
Fantastic video
for every fan leaving, another fan enters
Just got here! Also the "insurrection" was coordinated by the feds and they were all let in and led through velvet ropes for a photo op. One love!
Great vid
Thank you 🙏🏻
Great video
This is a free country you can like who ever you want to
Excellent video - refreshing to hear an equal parts eloquent and thorough take on TH-cam, which is rife with landfill
The Another Weekend music video sure takes on a whole new dimension at this point
Oh yeah. You can say that again.
Godly musician. I love Jpeg MAFIA, a loud leftist, and on the other end I love Ariel Pink (and some R. Stevie Moore). Art stands above personal opinions or politics IMHO. What’s most important is genuineness. And Ariel is one of the most genuine artists in the modern era. Can’t get enough of him.
I agree
I dont understand why people feel that musicians have to share their political ideas. It’s not a part of their music. If it really bothers you that much, then their music just isn’t for you idk what to tell you.
Also, what’s with the twitterspeak? You dont have to say “yikes” “chud” or “incel sympathizer” like you’re a 15 year old girl and not a grown man.
....wait wait wait. I did NOT know Worn Copy was the first released album. Here's my obligatory APHG coming of age story: It was the "Chillwave Summer" - 2009. Me and my friend Magic were both about 14 & found "House Arrest" first and "FF/Scared Famous" second. (we were lucky to find the original FF/SF first haha) - we were Animal Collective fans, but we were mainly Electronic kids, Kraftwerk, Aphex Twin, u-ziq, Squarepusher, etc and of course Neon Indian and the then very new Washed Out record. Anyway, we somehow found House Arrest and i'll never forget the first time I heard it.
"Interesting Results" was my first that clicked. Well. "Hardcore Pops are Fun" was my first first, but it didn't quite click until I had context to what my little teenage ass was hearing for the first time. We both were under the impression it was some outsider pop from the 60's. And thus, we were introduced to Hypnagogic pop. But at that time - that term did not exist as a genre so we had absolutely no idea what to even conceptualize it as at the time. Just Lo-fi Psychedelic pop music.
When we found it was recorded in 2002-ish we almost shit ourselves in music nerd glee. We didn't even KNOW IT WAS POSSIBLE to make music sound 30 years old in the way that he did. Baked in a Trans-AM windshield for a decade... We proceeded to find and catalogue every bootleg we could get our hands on: DUH, Yas Dudette, THE CLASSICS!
I dont give a rats ass about his politics man, Ariel has played a major role along with so many others in making me and soooo many other weird ass people- the musician, artist, goofball, dumbass I am today. So I just have one question for all of you.
Are you gonna look after my boys?
Story is very similar to mine and heartwarming to hear. Thank you for sharing.
Nice video, I love Ariel.
Thanks bro 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I've been to MAGA and BLM/Antifa rallies out of historical curiosity. I also have done tech support for major corporations and I wonder if these "indie" people realize how much of what they say echoes exactly what is said in corporate boardrooms these days, down to every last buzzword and opinion. Everything political in America is a L.A.R.P.
I would have to agree to some degree. I know Ariel thinks he is being a “rebel free thinker” he is just repeating the same talking points your boomer grandpa hears every night on fox
Articulate & concise writting very well said
Appreciate you mentioning historical curiosity as a reason to observe politics without necessarily believing or valuing the politics
It is also funny partially because they think they’re fighting the establishment both sides(as inaccurate as that binary devision is)
What’s the difference between L.A.R.P & Imitation?
Because I agree but also don’t expect people to be original
It much just be a sociological GP(general principle)
LOL that’s because corporations want to act “woke” and talk about identity politics because it keeps people away from class issues. It keeps the people separated while also appealing to clueless liberals who actually buy into their actions. They killed blm because they co-opted it. That’s what they’ve been doing for years. It defangs them and then they can control the movement. Just give people symbolic victories and shit. Thats enough to appease the libs, the brainwashed and the willfully ignorant. The well informed people who are really into politics and want shit to get better for themselves and everyone else understand this shit. I doubt the people in these boardrooms are talking about destroying capitalism. They say that shit because it sells and they want to fit in and feel good about themselves without doing anything. Those people represent the libs. The left starts at social democracy (arguably) but the rest of the left is explicitly anti capitalist and consists of socialists, Marxists, anarchists, communists, and other anti capitalist ideologues. It should also be said that what we consider left in America wouldn’t be considered left anywhere else in the world besides maybe the UK. None of our politicians in the US would (with the exception of maybe one or two people at most) be considered left wing anywhere else because the Overton window has been moved so far to the right. So the idea of actual leftists being all about corporations and corporations being all about the radical left is an absolute joke. But to be fair the “BLM”™️ movement (which is very different from the general movement of militant anti racism and antifascism) is dead. The anti police brutality movement needs to be completely rebranded and reorganized in a way where it actually has teeth and gets real results that makes everyone’s lives better
I don’t agree with ariel pink’s politics but I’m interested in what you have to say you made a good point about indie people I agree
@@gamestopholdmusic There are 3 main schools of western thought. The greek/modernist rational view point, the latin/abrahamic religeous view point and the esoteric/subjectivist/gnostic view point. The christian view point forced the latter underground where it grew and spread with intellectual elite due to it's exclusive and romantic nature. These people subverted and infiltrated the education and media centers of the western world so they were able to mold the minds of the elite. This way of thinking is attractive to people dissatisfied with reality or "social constructions" due to them not having strong axioms about reality they are very malleable by things like media and school. Whether you agree or disagree with the philosophy is another question but it runs in exact contrast with the boomer con "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality that a guy like Ariel Pink has.
Great video. Why no discourse about Bobby Jameson?
I mentioned it briefly, but you're right I def could've spent more time on that subject. For sure.
kanye isn’t a anti semite. he’s anti titles
Great video!
As a fellow 00s teen Cure fan…my in was a live version of “One Hundred Years” on Launch, which appealed a lot more than whatever the EMO kids were into. “Friday I’m in Love” as perfect whimsy pop came later.
One Hundred Years is still so beyond epic to this day. P*rnography is my favorite cure album
@@NAETEMUSIC it‘s the irony, i think. Plus that particular performance was big on anonymising and hiding bshind a giant light show a la Jesus & Mary Chain, which could not have been less 00s if it tried.
@@NAETEMUSIC it‘s the irony, i think. Plus that particular performance was big on anonymising and hiding bshind a giant light show a la Jesus & Mary Chain, which could not have been less 00s if it tried.
I like his music. It's fucking great.
Awesome video!
Thank you! 🙌🏻
I am with you on this subject all the way! ..You are definitely speaking directly to me here as someone who remains a huge fan of Mr. Rosenberg's work, yet cannot excuse his awful publicly stated opinions and choice to support the MAGA agenda! ..it is a damned shame is what it is! i feel similarly about the surrealist artist Salvador Dali ,(of whom i have personally always been a big fan). It only recently came to my attention that Dali apparently supported Spanish fascist dictator Francisco Franco { and it is rumored that he was a bit of a fan of some German whose name rhymes with Adolf..no Bueno Salvador!) ..Its tough to discover an artist you admire has/had horribly indefensible political views! Thank you so much for this video! I for one really appreciated it! Gonna have to check out your vids on Electronic Body Music and The Residents as well as your own music sir ! Subscribed!
Very thoughtful, thorough, and informative. I feel the same way about Ariel; an artistic genius with horrible politics. Your commentary on the psychology of... bulliedom? is very helpful in understanding, or beginning to understand the dynamic that exists between victim and victimizer.
This shit is so funny
Great video. I can think of no other artist of the modern era deserving of a long form analysis.
Collage rock is a great way to describe ariel’s stuff, especially as he moved into his higher fidelity stuff. One of the many things I find interesting about his songwriting is his ability to perfectly combine seemingly unrelated things. If you listen to demos you find out that many of these were actually separate songs/ideas that Ariel pieced together. I would call it seamless, but that doesn’t feel right to me. Often the stitches and transitions between the pieces are just as compelling and emotionally moving as the segments of music themselves.
Exactly. You basically nailed all my thoughts about Ariel as an artist/ He really is singular in the world of music and definitely will be remembered as very important. In fact, I think like Bach or something he will only become more famous as time goes on. So glad you dug the video!
This guy gets it!
you pronounce Ariel wrong
were u on mausspace at all?
All this cope in here. Y’all are allowed to be upset, but just remember.. you’re only upset because Ariel is top of the line. His perspective/opinion wouldn’t bother you if you didn’t respect his mind enough to know he’s carrying the heavy weight you’re too weak to carry yourselves. Be mad at the heavy weight of the truth, be mad at your own weakness under the weight of his words, but eventually you’re going to learn to lift heavy truth like Ariel. Cope harder.. then catch up with the rest of us.
U never heard of Woo?
Dude I was at that Middle East show too! I don't know if you remember, but prior to the release of Before Today, tied up in Ariel's mysterious persona was a reputation for having like, the worst live show imaginable. Pitchfork fucking haaaaated him at the time, which made me much more curious in checking him out. And I remember listening to BT over and over to get hyped for the show, thinking that it may be this fun, weird trainwreck. I walked out thinking it was probably the best live show I had seen so far. Like I still remember him absolutely belting out Fright Night and Round and Round with more gusto than everyone in the crowd.
Also, I got there early enough to see him just milling around, hunched over, shorter than me. I remember him setting up, trying to free a cable off of his mic stand, but doing it in this really strange, haphazard way. It's hard to describe, but something about the way he was doing it made me be like, 'damn he's just some weird little guy like me' lol.
0:35 did Ariel just quoted Noham Chomsky ?! 😅it's one contradiction after another with this guy.
John Maus was more shocking to me than Ariel. Mostly because he’s described himself as extremely leftist and was like a professor of political stuff I think. It felt way more out of character for John Maus. I was more used to Ariel Pink saying crazy stupid shit.
Yall are blind
Ariel is the one true artist and philosopher like the bold pillars of history I've always hoped to find in my own era...willing to risk it all just to prove a point and perhaps inspire a new school of thought. This was well-done but disappointed it had to end by putting him in a neat box of alt-right... Even troll or surrealist is too much of a box. As his friend I still can't believe how easily misconstrued he is. Like thinking most states are actually red.. Doesn't mean he thinks that's a good thing!! I think every Jewish artist worth knowing has made art about nazis/the Holocaust.. All the best art has always been shrouded in mystery because it can be interpreted in so many different ways. He's a transmitter.. a lightning pole.. who does not judge the transmission. How else could you imagine his music is made? I highly rec the TH-cam series made on him called 'Dedicated to Boris Karloff' because it was made by another strange and mystifying artist who gets the scope of meaning in a mind like this. Also rec to stay tuned to our channel cuz were going on tour w/ him & i'm making the video for 'i wanna be a girl' ^.^ !!!!
AP’s music sounds like AI. Or I guess, AI sounds like AP.
If we want to cancel celebs for their bad political takes then why don’t we cancel every single one of them
pretty sure the doldrums was the first album released on paw tracks, 2004 if memory serves.
I wish Ariel pink would cover r Kelly’s I believe I can fly
Totally agree about Pom Pom.
I agree with probably half your opinions on this and the other half I feel are misguided. With that said do you feel like Ariel deserves to be ostracized from the music industry? Do you think it was right for his label to drop him 2 days later over text, or at all for that matter? Does he deserve to not be able to support himself and his family with his music career anymore? Does he deserve to not be able to play live shows or tour, which is the real money maker for artists? These are all honest questions. Should we demand that for him to have his music career back that he has to disavow his personal beliefs? No matter how misguided some people may think they are? I’m truly curious. Thanks for the video.
No channel heart for you! You disagree! 😂 this guy is goofy even down to who he gives precious channel hearts to
@@lindboknifeandtool Lol I wasn’t even trying to be rude I was legitimately asking! 🤷♂️
Hey so just seeing thsis my take is thus: If he continues down this path of absolute Qanon madness and does not utterly repudiate what transpired on January 6th and his support for anti-democratic movements, I cannot blame touring agencies, or record companies for not wanting to work with him. Free market.
@@NAETEMUSIC But he has repudiated what happened on Jan, 6th?? He has said he was there for a peaceful protest and went back to his hotel. He has straight up said he does not support or agree with the storming of the capitol. Thats what I don't understand about your argument. I understand "free market," a very right wing stance btw. But that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about social acceptance.
@@Clawgripsmoon Ok but he fundamentally agrees with the nature of the "peaceful protest" which in my opinion (and as I state in the video) was Donald trump's excuse to incite a riot attempting to stop the certification of the election. So if you in any way ideologically agree with the idea that the election was "stolen" I can't be sorry for the decent world not wanting to associate for brand safety reasons.
He put out a new project type shit on his Substack, did u listen to it ? It’s called anonymous projections
It's weird that people care about his dopey but inconsequential politics.
Really good video man!! Been a fan of Ariel since 2013 and I’m still riding for him. A lot of people can’t separate the artist from the art and it truly sucks. I’m hoping for his future to be better than ever. 😇
I love your take on his musical ethos. He's a genius. And.... Ariel is right!
Very interesting facts and idea in general about ariel's music, such a shame for all the woke b.s. you end up with and practically your support for cancel culture... otherwise very good video
Separating the art from the artist is the exact antithesis of cancel culture.
Good video. I don't care about Ariel Pink's politics, love his music though.
This is like Nancy Pelosi telling you what’s up, except without the stock tips
Ariel did nothing wrong
Ariel did a lot wrong
@@blakewesthomas8051 Communists aren't people. Leftism within the current Overton Window is a mental disease.
@@blakewesthomas8051like what? Disagreeing with you on politics? Get over yourself.
He’s just a little old man who got brainwashed by Fox News. It’s very common
@@cookiepartyyy he physicaly assaulted his girlfriend Charles so that's one thing
Damn Ariel got canceled in 2014 for calling Madona old? That's rough. I would have gone to Jan 6 too.
Thanks for sharing this video; it's truly alleviated my cognitive dissonance about enjoying Ariel's art. I've been patiently waiting for Ariel’s "Toto moment" to pull back the curtain. But he seems lost in the “Pink goo.” Either way, I still vibe to his jams.
It seems that indeed everything cannot be wrapped up into a pretty little package.
I'd love to sit down and have a beer with you at some point. Someone so many points I agree with and so many points up to debate. Thank you for making the video
I want somebody to ask Ariel Pink what was so peaceful about the trump rally on January 6?? I wonder what the answer would be.
Zactly
🍼🤡
That's like asking how BLM riots were so peaceful. It's the same answer: the vast majority were nonviolent.
@@MindlessTurtle The trump rally can't compare to blm rallies only because the intention behind the trump rally was to never be peaceful in the first place. The rally in jan 6. was to deny the defeat in the election, refuse to concede, and lie about electoral fraud which made his supporters act violently without zero evidence or facts of those claims being the absolute truth. So if you showed up to that rally on that day your intention wasn't to be peaceful it was to act on idiotic, ignorant, immature and incriminating claims. The night Trump lost the election he made it clear that the election was rigged without proof, even after the count of votes were done state to state. Also, the rallies organized by blm only become violent when the police make barricades in military gear to try to stop the peaceful protest. There's a reason why the kkk and alt right groups rallies never turn violent, unless anifa and far left groups show up to comfort them but other than that the police themselves don't make barricades and show up in military gear to try and stop them from "protesting" peacefully. Blm protest are rooted in the mistreatment and discrimination of citizens by police and proven with evidence and facts but justice still not being served to the abused or dead citizens. Its not the same.
best analysis on Ariel i’ve seen so far. played with the opening band for two of his shows a couple months ago. speaking with him in person he is essentially the same politically as he presents himself online and in interviews, which is of course sad, but damn the man’s still a musical genius and funny and personable as hell when you can break away from the politics
WOAH. Bro that is TOO COOL, despite the nosedive off the cliff into alt-right insanity he still basically one of the guys that introduced me to pop/rock indie music (I grew strictly around classical music till my teens) I am so intrigued, what's your band called? I'll check it out!
Again...what is sad about being against Woke? You do realize how crazy and radicalized the Marxist woke left is?
I found him recently from TAFS weirdly enough and I know his music will accompany me my whole life. Definitely became my favorite overall music artist
I’d like to point out that a lot of what Donald trump was accused of, the democrats were later found to be doing..😂
It’s like many artistic people. You see an insane hypocrisy, you poke at it. You’re not allowed to even entertain Donald trump. That’s…. Clearly dumb. Do I call it fascism? Nah, outdated. You’re not allowed to attend an event where the president speaks. The presidents words them become your own somehow. How could he have predicted how the speech would go?
It’s sad. All I see is division. The only way through it together.
I think his anti gay marriage stance is similar to the abolish gender stance. It’s all dumb, get rid of it type idea.
And man just know that I know you’re trying to do the right thing, I just think my $0.02 might help you appeal to a wider audience, and not shut out people who have a differing opinion. Like I said, bring people together!
Pffft! Pom pom greatest or even one of the greatest albums of all time, yeah right. It’s not even Ariel best album. I’d have to think back, but it prob wasn’t even the greatest album released on that day hah.
@@Ajlakritz didn’t say that...
You seem to be a music elitist. That’s gays asf. Don’t be that way. You’re arguing points I didn’t even barley make.
Let's not forget NIN. Synth heavy as fuvk featuring does odd 90s times
14:00 - both
Fantastic documentary. I agree with just about all of it....except for the as influential as David Bowie part 😂
Lmao fair
Thank you for summing up a lot of fans feelings with this video. It broke my heart when I found out Ariel had been pulled into the QAnon mind-prison, but I understand how it happened. I hope he watches this video one day and I hope he can fight his way back into the light and see all the good that there still is in this world. As a non-American, this intense division in American society has been super strange and frightening. I wish more people were able to get outside of it and see it for what it really is.
Ariel's music will always be burned into my heart.
you seem to be in a mind prison yourself if you think ariel is into 'q anon'. he supported trump, just like at least half the country did and went to see him for the last time before he stopped being president. everything you're saying is inaccurate judgements of his character and only exists inside your head
How condescending of you
I'm pretty sure he's not into Q Anon. I'm on the right and think Q is dumb. Maybe you are the one sucked into Woke BS?
God forbid your favorite artist has a different opinion than you or even worse..is not a liberal . Oh no!
There’s nothing more nightmarish to a leftist or causes the greatest amount of cognitive dissonance than a red pilled leftist who crosses over to the other side, doesn’t follow the narrative or script, or even worse, a black conservative! Oh no! Can’t have that in our dogma ridden neo- leftist ideology!!!
Yes they all can be easily brainwashed by politics over art thru media they slave to
Sounds like a fascist right 😂
This is an excellent analysis thank you, especially about the pre-ariel scene that was kind of dying - I agree. I'm more of a Mac DeMarco guy myself, but as a life long music fan, I've really enjoyed the musical renaissance since 2010 that I believe has occurred from artists who have emerged in the post-streaming era. I think your analysis of his motivations has some possible truth too. I'm from the UK, and feel that we have not produced artists in the same way as North America as in the last decade.
Totally thank you for watching glad you enjoyed it!
Ok that was good for about one minute and 30 seconds
With this kind of negative perspective it’s a wonder this person gets out of bed in the morning.
Shoegaze was big around 80-87. I suppose My Bloody Valentine and Loop might have influenced Nirvana, I'm not sure.
Your politics are pretty cringe but good analysis on Ariel’s brilliant music.
Leftism is no longer an ideology but a personality disorder. Ariel is smart and knows that.
this was a really cool breakdown. I really like Ariel Pink's music, but that's where it ends. Was a bummer to see how kind of out of it he is, but I don't think most celeb musicians are grounded in reality. Good job, really enjoyed this.
He’s more grounded in reality than you think. Question what you think and believe because somewhere along the way, you stopped.
He's right you know
Love you Mr. Pinkenberg
Edit: Also, subbed
This armchair psychologizing is so unbelievable cringe.