The Jordan Peterson Phenomenon // Ty Gibson
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2021
- Jordan Peterson is one of the most controversial figures of our time. People hate him and others love him. Regardless of what you think of his political perspectives, maybe God is trying to get his attention, as well as yours and mine.
He's so close! How cool would it be to see JP baptized 💛
keep praying for him. God will draw him in
Hes actually done a bible series. As far as I know, JP has professed himself as Christian.
"Christ, by definition, is the best that a man can be" -Jordan Peterson
That is only half of it. Jesus also has to be Lord and King.
Satan also knew this; hence the jealousy
You are right. He has shared his belief in Christ so he has taken big steps in his journey and I hope that he continues on his journey...even as some will focus not on his journey but on an outcome which can become a rabbit trail of legalism and judgmentalism that misses the way the Holy Spirit is clearly working on his heart.
Here is one TH-cam on how Jordan Peterson's wife is leading him to God. And there are other TH-cam presentation where he cries, talking about Jesus: th-cam.com/video/83DHllaflfQ/w-d-xo.html
TH-cam's algorithm must have brought me here. I'm glad I listened Ty, really like how you presented your views.
I've been following Peterson 4 years now and Paul Vanderklay too. It's nice to hear another voice in the Christian Community examing and Jordan's work and words.
Please do more! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Paul Vanderklay 👍🏻👍🏻
The point about malevolence opening one’s eyes is not so much that it causes a moral reaction from within against the malevolence, but there’s an opening of one’s eyes to the immorality within. The scales coming off one’s eyes has to do one’s perceiving oneself.
I would love to see a conversation with you and Jordan Peterson one day. Just to hash out any differences for us that are admirers of JBP and Adventist doctrine.
Regarding the depth of the stories in Genesis, Ty’s explanation of the story of Adam and Eve, in “See With New Eyes” was life changing for me, in particular the insight that sin doesn’t change God, but changes us.
30, 36 mins in, "the Lord knows who are his, God sees people we don't see, don't use Christianity as a cloak." Pretty powerful Ty, I think he has hit the nail directly on the head. Thanks be to God that he still is searching and knows who he needs to call out. As Secular as this may seem it may be the very instrument to take a non believer to become a believer. Avenues we may never agree with or suspect. God bless.
😅Jesus loved the brothers of thunder
Who wants to see Jordan Peterson debate Richard Dawkins?
You spelled "murder" wrong.
Thank you Ty. What a brilliant sermon. I am believer trying to reach out to tell people about the Bible truth and God's love. You just opened my eyes to another avenue. May God bless you richly as your gift of speaking so eloquently is incredible.
I’ve been waiting for this.
I viewed this curious to see if Ty was being inconsistent with his own teachings - namely, I was hoping Ty was not engaging in that form of Christianity which defines itself mostly by what it is against. There is a pattern of popular Christian personalities online using their platform to judge other Christian personalities and popular personalities in general. Thanks for tackling this subject with hope and grace Ty.
“In a word, what I’m saying is, Grow up . You’re kingdom subjects. Now live like it. Live out your God-created identity. Live generously and graciously toward others, the way God lives toward you.”
Matthew 5:48 MSG (and that's Jesus talking!) Awesome stuff, Ty!
Bruuuuuh, I thought it was a J Peterson quote😂 'grow up'
Kingdom heirs
We are supposed to be preaching present truth to a lost and dying world. That is growing up to what Christ has mandated we do.
Thanks, Ty! Awesome stuff! 🙂
Praise God I really enjoyed this sermon and we have to keep praying and be willing to do what God asks for people like Jordan Peterson who are on their “to the unknown God ” quest since it’s clear they recognize there is “something Else”. May God reveals His grace, love and justice to them 🙏
Very well done and presented. God bless. Amen.
The gospel is the best news in the universe. Let's hear about that, thanks. Now we get to open up people's minds to encourage JP's righteousness by works philosophy. JP's "rules" without the grace of the cross of Christ is an eternal disaster for many. May JP see the beauty of God's eternal grace, that's my prayer for God's child, JP.
Actually I have been following Jordan Peterson and I can safely deduce based on my more than 200 hours of watching Mr. Persons video that he is a believer and he subscribe to the idea that God as the initial cause of the reality we experience now
Good sermon!
I've heard hundreds of hours of JP lectures and interviews but never heard him utter the words "I don't believe in God" he always says "Depends on what you mean by believe and depends on what you mean by God" his speech in Sydney in response to the question "Do you believe in God is astounding and he believes his wife to be prophetic and she attends Christian church" I think he just refuses to align with any denomination religion because he doesn't agree with ideological divisions in society. His lectures on the Bible are amazing!!
Wow. What a powerful message. Thank you so much, I'll be thinking more and more about this today
Please pray for discernment. I don’t feel comfortable with this or with Ty’s word salad. We need to preach Christ and Him crucified and the present truth Message mandated by Jesus Christ for REV 14.
I consider Jordan Peterson as a stepping stone, a midway point from atheism to faith.
God can use an ass😉
@@michelifig6356: That was uncalled for
@@kensmith8152 - God did use an ass or donkey with Balaam.
@@theway5563:indeed, but Baleem was more of an enemy of the faith
I love Jordan perterson breath of fresh air !
This is as profound as it is a challenge to professing Christians.
I believe this 💯% I really think the purpose of christianity is to provide those the Lord knows are His a revelation if Himself, so that 1. They can meet the One who they worship and not lose what they have. 2. So that influence can turn people who are not saved to righteousness. At least these two reasons.
Grow up and take responsibility! Wow that speaks to so many of us today
Values violated produce suffering.
I will always agree God is pursuing us.
I will always agree God is pursuing people we don't like or agree with, including Jordan Peterson.
I can easily agree that God is pursuing people in the secular realm.
I question building a sermon on quotes from one person in that realm, particularly one who is known as "controversial," especially if the reasons WHY he is controversial are not explained.
I could understand using illustrations and quotes from a variety of secular, "controversial" figures, in the context that God is pursuing even the most unlikely people.
But building an entire sermon on one man's quotes seems to elevate that man's teaching, even if it's not the intended consequence.
Especially when many may not understand why he is such a divisive figure.
I am well acquainted with the "don't judge" texts. I often quote Paul's directive to judge those inside the church, not outside.
But there is also the reminder that we know people by the fruits of their lives, and Peterson is known by some as a gateway for alt-right thinking, and I would recommend a look at this article from The Guardian for balance:
www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest
I would simply say that to the contrary, the “some” that “know” JP as “a gateway for alt-right thinking” are precisely those who either haven’t actually listened to him carefully, or have no intention of handling him truthfully in the first instance. They have merely revealed themselves by attempting to label him for the purpose of negating him. Regardless of the ease with which mis-characterizations may be tossed about, there is nothing alt-right about Jordan Peterson.
It was more of an analyses, under a Christian lens, of a person rising in the ranks of a controversial and social influence. And, throwing up Pauls directive seems nothing more than "reassuring statement"
24:57 hurt my heart
Like Ravi Zacharias said , JP comes to some brilliant occlusions but the foundation of those conclusions are flawed. As with many secular authors, you have to use biblical discretion to filter out the good from the bad.
Jesus bears this message out thoroughly in His parable of how He will judge the nations, in Matthew 25: 31-46. It is the closest we can come to a standard of righteousness. We cannot judge on our own who is righteous. We can only be true to God by treating every person we meet with respect, remembering, with humility, that we are all sinners.
Works did generate salvation. Jesus did works of love which gave us the opportunity to be saved. We respond with works of love which gives us salvation. What we do determines whether we are saved, as long as we are motivated by love to do good works and not by selfishness without love.
Cultural observations of a person having a moral impact is okay when preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. This approach is counterintuitive.
Why is that why is it that it seems like looking at the surface it may appear apparent that Mr Peterson does not believe in God that is because if he comes out clearly as clear follower of Christ then the majority of his audience might tune hime out. So he put people in a path of Christ by letting them go through a serious question about Chirst so people may discover Christ the way he does.
Peterson is an apologist for so-called Western values. Though he invokes the Bible, I do not recognize the Gospel in his work. We mustn't confuse calls for self-discipline as the invitation to receive the Grace of God, freely offered and abundantly bestowed on all who trust, not theories or principles, but Christ. Truth, according to Scripture, is a Person, even the God-Man Christ Jesus. ✝️
Interesting. Rule 5 is a Jesus quote from the Gospel of Thomas.
It can’t be a Jesus quote because a so-called Gospel of Thomas is not included in the inspired Bible.
Can you explicitly identify if this channel is Seventh day Adventist? I think you should🤔
Just saying
Why should that matter? Truth is truth. Also, they specifically say they are Adventist in their About section.
It matters! And it’s not a thing that you should get offended of. We should be explicit because SDA has the ultimate truth! Every church claims they have the truth, that’s why to me it matters to explicitly say if a channel is Seventh day Adventist. And people are looking for channels of SDAs. My friend is a non Adventist not yet converted and she always looks for Seventh day Adventist channels. She ask me if this one is! So if you are an Adventist? You don’t sound it.
E White , is clear when she said about the final days, we have to be under the light God gave us. Not human words. The Omega is so strong now.
The Spirt testifies does it not?
@@lovegodscreatures6776 you're standard for truth should b JC - not JP, not Ty, not EW, not the Pope. Old Testament points forward to Him, New Testament looks back to Him
Ty, you know false prophets will rise why amplify their voices? For click bait? Say it ain’t sooooo. These false prophets will speak provocatively to draw you in and didn’t I recently read one of your pieces about (in my words) diluting oneself in the world is more likely to result with oneself becoming more worldly less Godly. I can only pray for your discernment
Sir, you surely know that The Holy Spirit is at work, why do you choose to diminish The Holy Spirit?
Thousands of slave holders in America had no pangs of conscience about their treatment of slaves. The fact is, conscience is not always the voice of God. Oftentimes it's a cultural conditioning or worldview that tells us what is valued in our society. When we go against our worldview, we suffer psychologically and in other ways. That doesn't mean our conscience is a dependable measure of right or wrong. So, to the extent that JP has learned real truths from the Bible, I of course agree, but he gets so much wrong and does it with such superficial profundity and he is so persuasive, I have decided to take everything he says with a generous helping of salt, and I keep my distance from his fan club. Some of what I've seen in his followers honestly looks like a cult following, which is disconcerting.
What exactly is your point? Are you spruiking Jordan Peterson and if so, why? Shouldn't you be preaching Jesus Christ? You are a person of some influence, so for you to devote 43 minutes of blowing JP's trumpet and placing it on TH-cam is going to have an influence on many people, especially young minds. And when you are about to pray, please invite the viewer rather than just start praying, because it comes across as a bit casual and controlling. Tread carefully, Ty, for the devil lurks nearby.
He DID preach Jesus!! He preached on the fact that God is working on the hearts of ALL HIS CHILDREN. Both believers and UNBELEIVERS. Peterson was just part of the illustration. Did you even listen to the full sermon before complaining?
Amen - well said. What has happened to him. He is most certainly giving the devil a giant breach in his brain wall. Man’s supposed wisdom is but foolishness.
@@paulacassianodias7990 - This most certainly is not the present truth we have been instructed to teach.
@@theway5563 why not!? This is a sermon based on Romans 1:19,20, as well as Acts 18:10. Please don't use "present truth" as cover for your preferences. All truth is Present Truth!
@@theway5563 So tell me. What is the present truth which is the only thing we've been instructed to preach? I guess any deviation from that is sin?