My STRANGE Windows 98 Retro Gaming PC Build!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- It was time to build yet another "Retro" Gaming PC after months of planning and parts-hunting. It sure is a strange Windows 98 PC.
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Music:
Kreuzberg Nights by Futuremono (TH-cam Audio Library)
Long Road by Futuremono (TH-cam Audio Library)
Ellie's Home Stretch by The Great North Sound Society (TH-cam Audio Library)
Retrograde by Spence (TH-cam Audio Library)
A Trip Around the Moon by Unicorn Heads (TH-cam Audio Library)
Mountain Jump by Coyote Hearing (TH-cam Audio Library)
Searching For You by White Hex (TH-cam Audio Library)
Chords of Harmony by Aakash Gandhi (TH-cam Audio Library)
What do you think of my "strange" Windows 98 Gaming PC? 😉
I LOVE IT. 😁
What parts would you have gone for? 😅
Pretty neat build, i'd perhaps look towards socket 754 or 939 for larger cpu coolers available.
(Same cpu cooler mounting as socket am3+, fm2+)
+ ipc is much better per mhz.
So slapping on something like a freezer 7 pro or a fat 120mm cpu fan cooler utilizing that mounting would make it pretty quiet together with a slight undervolt.
Then perhaps a 120 gb ssd with a ide too sata adapter that does it's own garbage collection like the pny cs 900, really cheap drive & with small files it does pretty well.
Gpu wise I'd say perhaps a 9800 xt or similar 9000 series gpu with 256 mb vram thats around a 9700 pro performance wise is what id say is my sweet spot personally.
Then sourcing a larger gpu cooler for it like an arctic cooling ati silencer 1 or similar cooler of some sort, or perhaps with a bit of help from a drill & drill tap too make new screw holes & ghetto modding a more modern gpu cooler from a dead graphics card with heatpipes & 2x slot height like say a hd 5750 with a heatpipe cooler of some sort.
I would maybe add a PCI sata controller card and an SSD also dual boot windows 2000, would be interested to see if a modern linux distro would run too maybe debian
Probably would have gone for a faster P4 but the main thing is no optical media... You might as well since the games on disc are usually cheaper than digital, plus its just cool.
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this is pretty cool
I miss how quiet these old systems were, especially when running games. I do not miss loading drivers, windows, and getting everything to work, only to have it crash if you add or change anything. Thank you for the walk back down memory lane. Tomb Raider was great on my 970 Pro.
Quiet? My experience is exactly opposite. My first PCs, especially the second one around year 2000, were loud as vacuum cleaners. Slow spinning 120 mm fans and big efficient coolers were not even invented. Water cooling was a curiosity and not something mainstream. No silent SSDs but spinning platters making high pitched noise. Unbearable! Unless you are talking about the 486 and earlier era when most components were passively cooled.
Descent, Descent 2, The Lost Vikings, Gobliiins (the whole series) just to name few of the diamonds you missed ;)
I had the same problem with NFS2SE on my Pentium 4 build, so I setup a second Windows 98 PC built around an ASUS P5S-VM motherboard which has a 100mhz FSB. I then bought a Geforce MX400 PCI video card and paired that with a 3dfx Voodoo 1, and for sound a SB Audigy, and 256mb of Kingston PC 100 ram. Now I can run NFS2SE, and POD in 3dfx Glide mode, and 40 other Windows 95/98 games. To me it was worth having the second Windows 98 PC as I love games from that era, and some games only run on certain video cards using period correct drivers. Way back in 1997 I had my first computer, I added the 3dfx Voodoo 1, and I was blown away with what that card could do, now I have that same video card, and can experience the magic all over again! :)
When I first saw that windows 98 startup screen I immediately knew you had tech issues and windows wouldn’t start 😂 I experienced that plenty 😂
Hahahaha! :D
i feel i'm back at year 2003 with that beautiful PC 👍
Thank you!
Bring me back to some good and not good memories with Windows 98.😍
No CRT Monitor and a Modern Case? Hmm as long as YOU like it and are happy with it i guess it's ok.
Nice! I like it! Currently working on getting mine running too.
All my hardware is circa 2007, and I'm trying to get Vista to install.
vista sucked, it got better with the late service packs but still wans't the best effort ms put out, maybe windows 2000, its pretty lightweight and requires no activation or go xp but I have no idea if the activation servers are still running so might need some kind of hack now to get a legit version working
Thank you!
Your project sounds cool, too. While so many have negative opinions about Vista, I have pretty good memories of it and hardly experienced any problems with it. Someday I might revisit Vista myself and will put together a "Retro" build for that era, too.
What parts are you planning to use for your project? :)
@@Nicolas11x12English issue I'm dealing with now is seeing odd 2nd CPU core utilization floating between 42% and 48%.
I can't get Windows XP to run on the system, constant blue screen.
Windows Vista and 7 both work on it. Vista is snappier, but somehow 7 uses less CPU time, regardless both are causing 2nd CPU core to peg 40ish percent CPU usage. Still not sure why, and according to a LONG thread on Microsoft's forum, it was a known issue.
@@Nicolas11x12English Those old OSes would work today just fine, like Vista, XP, 7, 2000...etc they didn't really change all that much, the only actual problem is lack of security support, so even some ridiculously old and uderpowered PCs from XP/Vista era had to be upgraded to Win10.
@scott I could get xp to load on it, I have xp on a 2012/13 board
Oh man, that was a crazy time and your PC looks sick!!' Nice work xD
Haha! Thank you, Andy! ;)
Ah yes, the Windows 9x battle. I've reinstalled this OS so many times on my retro PC I've lost count. Try and get an Aureal sound card at some point. During this era A3D was amazing!
Nice build 😀
Haha, thanks!
I'm happy to hear I'm not the only one that had to reinstall the OS multiple times in order to get something to work. xD
If you can acquire a Vortex2 card for cheap enough, it'll be a HUGE sound upgrade over the SoundMAX audio.
this kind of videos always remind me how much ahead halflife/counter strike was in therms of graphics..
Winamp! 🎵
You forgot to put something for "Genuine Windows 98 SE" in your links, there, or at the very least, add "Link coming soon". I mean, geez, man.
- Ziro out.
Yeah, Winamp really knows how to whip the llama's ass... ;)
@@Nicolas11x12English Winamp's been whippin' the llama's ass for over 20 years now. (:
You mentioned nonexistent cable management, but it looked fine to me. At least you routed them all behind the case.
Great PC! For other people who gets trouble with audio, check your motherboard manual. I once was cracking my head to figure out an audio issue and it turned out to be 2 jumpers that needed to be set correctly.
What an amazing build! I love it! I'm considering doing a similar build, but completely over the top just to see if it will work. I've found drivers that, supposedly, will allow my nVidia 8800 GTS 512 to work under windows 98, and I have a Core 2 Quad QX9650 system to try it in. I even have 10,000 RPM hard drives. Obviously there won't be chipset drivers for the motherboard, but I'm not sure if I need them. I have a PCI Soundblaster that I can use, as obviously the onboard audio won't work in Win98. I think I should be able to use a glide wrapper, like nGlide, rather than trying to use an expensive Voodoo card. Will be an interesting experiment anyway. It may even be possible to triple boot this PC between Win98, Windows XP and Windows 10.
At first I was reacting to the RGB like "Why"... But then I was impressed
Nice build! i'm making a P3-800 build right now. I do have a complete biege case mine the side panel. I hope to find it and then I will have a retro machine in look as well. I do however really like the idea of a modern case!
Looks great dude! Oh and it is was fun to see some different games that i haven't seen before. Some look really cool!
You really need a CRT. I couldn't imagine retro gaming on an LCD. The difference is quite astounding.
Nice build though!
Thank you! :D
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Yeah I actually ditched my 4k monitor when playing the new Elite game. The sense of speed and color depth absolutely blew away my 4k monitor. People really have forgotten how good of a image a CRT truly makes.
Love it! In all for mixing old and new parts when it comes to retro. I would have chosen a white case though as a homage to the color schemes popular In the 90s :)
Thank you! White certainly would've looked really nice with this build. ;)
You should find yourself a copy of Norton Ghost 2001 or a similar product of that era. Use it to make images of your systems before you make major changes, and you'll never need to reinstall Windows from scratch because of a driver problem again! :)
Nice build! Why not put an SSD in instead?
I always end up playing unreal tournament on my retro pcs and then realizing I can play that as well on my windows 10 gaming pc 😂 but it does make more fun at 30fps and 1024 on a k6-2 than at 60fps in full hd 😉
Good to know the voodoo doesn't like higher directx given i have a nvidia 6800gt ready for my build. Currently unsure if i go with a voodoo 1 or voodoo 2 pairing but given the issues you experienced and the better dos compatibility of the 1 that seems the better pick right now.
I recently did a build like this and did a socket A build and my solution was to buy an older Corsair 650tx new in box with a strong 5v rail, it was enough to remain stable with the Athlon XP 3200+ and geforce 6800, but for the voodoo system I did I opted for 440bx because it’s a more stable durable platform and socket A was prone to issues
Cool video
You're a madman
I know.
I think i have that exact same motherboard lying around somewhere.
I remember I played the shit out of Formula 1 '95 with my brand new 3Dfx Voodoo card :)
but honestly, I would never want to use any of the Windows 9x versions anymore.. I was one of those people who already had an internet flatrate back in the day and so I never turned off my PC, but you had to reboot every few days, because all the Windows 9x versions became completely unusable after only 3-4 days of uptime.
man, was I swearing A LOT at Microsoft and Windows back then :p
luckily it all changed when I switched to Windows 2000 :)
Yeah... I've never used Widows 98 myself back in the day, but with this project I dealt with enough issues to believe what others had to say about this OS. Windows 2000 was great, and XP was AMAZING for its time. Also very stable. :D
just one correction windows 98se games was cmr2, quake 1-2, nfs 2-3, command and conquer, warcraft, starcraft 2 + blood, unreal tournament, aoe1 it was not available aoe2 age of kings, i had an AMD K6-2 450mhz computer with 192mb ram and fx5500 256mb agp my system was perfect until a sucker burn up the float point of the cpu amd had to buy a 478 p4 2.0 with a msi board huge diference between pc100 and ddr1
Did that case come with all four fans with an RGB controller I am about ready to make one retro Windows 7 PC myself and it's with a phenom ii X6 1145T
Also I like that case because the bottom opens up from the inside with a crystal panel
you went twin Voodoos but onboard sound?!?!?!?!? i doubt a SBLive or Aureal etc or clones go for that much
Yes, he missed something there. Aureal is probably the way to go for Win98. I'd go with SB-Live, Audigy or X-Fi for WinXP though.
Use geode instead of athlon in socket A draws only 10W more performance
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Nothing strange about this, ive done the same, id take windows98 over windows10 any day, mines socket 754 3700+ with a radeon 9800pro, 2gb ram, 120gb ssd
Nice project, but I think that this build deserves a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS...
Nice Build
Its my favorite channel from long time and always be.
Can. You try windows xp on same system.
Thank you for your super kind words!
I may try that in the future, but Voodoo2 cards won't work with XP, unfortunately.
At least not great. Depends on what kind of modifications can be made to the driver to get it working under XP.
Hello, it's an awesome build, but where did you get this single platter PATA Seagate hard disk? With manufacture year 2016? I tried to search for it's part number but only SATA devices show up.
Btw, These were pretty neat back then, you could run Vista on these if you added 1 GB RAM.
I bought that HDD from an eBay seller. I was lucky enough to get a hold on such model 2-3 years ago. Nowadays it's hard finding decent PATA drives. :/
You can find many of the PATA drives with even higher capacities but very few of them are similar to what you have, that it has only a single platter, It is definitely a very rare hard disk for sure.
3DFX card has 12meg on it
There are 8mb and 12Mb versions of the voodoo 2.
@@ksp1278 YEP I STILL GOT MY TECWORKS 12MEG CARD IN BOX FROM 98,I FOR GOT ABOUT THE 8MEG 1
Can u put windows 98 parts in a new case like that?
Did you use the “unofficial windows 98 service pack”?
So you did not want to run Nglide you rather put two more cards in instead of use a glide wrapper?
A glide wrapper will never be 100% the same as using the real hardware, and nothing wrong with wanting to experience the real thing. That said, the Voodoo 2 is crazy expensive now, and to buy two of them is eye-watering. I went for a single Voodoo 3 instead, as that's just one card and you have 3DFX, OpenGL and Direct3D all on one card. Power-wise, I think it's similar to dual Voodoo 2 in SLI.
i still have one a those old mother boards with intel pentuim D 3.20 ghz and 1.5 gb ddr ram just dont have any grapics cards of that old and a 250gb hdd and a Asus Mother board dont know the module
Ah when SLI was SLI and not SLI :P
I wonder how did you solve usb keyboard ad mouse issue?
You should have water cooled the components with how much excess room is in there
How would he mount it on the CPU?
i have that exact same MB, i can't get it to output video to any gpu i own, any tips?
How is there no RGB IDE cables yet? 😂
We NEED this. :D
i have the same ide cable
No floppy and cdrom drive cannot be considered as a Windows 98 PC. =)
Yeah 100% your build is really strange.
I partially agree for the floppy drive, but I completely agree for the CD-ROM drive
I'm going to guess that you are a Pisces.
Nope, but why, though? :D
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ure just missing a modern monitor
Oposit off my pc modern parts old case
U talk funny
first :D