JR Smith is a winner. Every team he went to got better He helped Nuggets to conf. finals when melo was peaking He was a big part of new Orleans teams with cp3 He was 6th man of year and big part of new York's best team since 90s Starter for 2016 cavs championship and 4 straight finals
@@adgee5401 yes true offcourse chauncey was the main difference maker what I meant was the perception is that JR was a bad guy or selfish player when in reality he was really good and valuable to all teams he played for
“I’ll take 20 bottles with sparklers and sent 1 to him so it’s look like he can only afford 1” Lmaooooooo bro, I love Gilbert man, it’s take imaginations and great level of petty for that and quick too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
the manu take is crazy. simplifying the argument to individual 1v1 is just that, an oversimplification. 1v1 definitely means something, but doesn't necessarily mean he's the better player. like, i would take kyrie 1v1 over curry, but in a real 5v5 game, curry's impact is far superior. therefore, i would say curry is the better player.
Future pro golfer! 😂 there is no way dude, the guys on top are so many decades ahead of him, JR is a amazing athlete but let’s not disrespect the guys that been doing it their whole life
Im still waiting for someone to open up that conversation where it was alot of black kids in special Ed that came outta school normal as hell they just couldn't summarize shit n how kids used to tease kids for it, alot of times it used to be the bad kid who was in SPED but this conversation is too close to some.
@@Smith9082253 he came after LeBron so the one and done rule was in affect but Jennings was the first player to instead go overseas for a year of professional hoops before coming back to do the draft (he was the top ranked player in his class when he left and then fell to the 10th pick the next year when he got back) ** also he initially committed to Arizona for college but then he got outed for bogus act/sat’s and wasn’t gonna be academically eligible to play… which forced him to try the overseas route to the league)
shoutout to FUBO sports and gil, JJ. this type of conversation being critical about the billionaire owners being cheap would never happen on a major network! but it’s facts.
@@jwilliams1582 you dont know basketball kiddo. Manu was in a system designed not to have a 25-30 ppg player, and yet the only time he played above 30 min, he had 20-5-5. Any other team, he'd be the 1st or 2nd point of offense, and he'd get a lot more touches
When JR threw the no look oooooop to Bron In game 6 I said oh we bout to win the championship It’s not how you drive it’s how you arrive - Mama there goes that man 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Love Swish 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Don’t care what they talking about Ginobili is an amazing 6th man. Those other guys might have been better than him individually on one on one play but when it comes to affecting winning Ginobili is that guy and is why I consider him a better 6th man than those other cats
Manu Averaged 13.3 Lou Williams Averaged 13.9 and Jamal Crawford Averaged 14.6 so they are all essentially the same players. Manu was more of a two way player than those two.
Right!! I’m taking Manu B4 those two!! Manu Euro Step was Amazing! Ko8e Gave Manu Hella Respect 🫡 ✊🏾 Manu Won A Gold Medal!! He Beat USA 🇺🇸 2004! Manu A Goat 🐐 I think J.R Smith was As Good as Jamal and Lou 💪🏾💯
Loved this interview maybe the best pod from Gilbert this year but the Manu slander made no sense. The guy was literally a wizard with the ball and was key piece for 4 championships
Regarding Manu vs. Crawford: too bad basketball isn't a 1v1 sport. Manu knew the role he needed to play, and he did his job extremely well. There aren't many in the NBA who would agree to come off the bench when they could easily have started for most of the other teams in the NBA. No one can convince me that Manu wasn't the VERY BEST 6th man of all time. Say what you want about 1v1, but NBA basketball isn't played 1v1. Regarding Arenas' take, that's just his ego talking. Winning speaks a LOT louder than the random barbershop speculation we get all the time. And it's not surprising that ex-players are some of the LEAST objective when it comes to evaluating their peers, as you can see from the voting each year for MVP.
I agree with almost everything but I disagree so heavy on the Manu part… Dude literally lead Argentina to a ring. And his hypothetical situation of “what if Manu was the star in the NBA?” That situation never occurred for Jamal so I don’t see how he can hold that against Manu when Jamal never lead his team other. Take Cp3 and Blake off those Clippers teams they are the #1 pick for years to come
@@tbates4938 that’s a tough question bro. Manu was a DOG. Jamal Crawford has a bigger bag definitely but that don’t necessarily mean he’ll win a 1v1. Do y’all really think Manu was sweet or something? The man has a Hall of Fame jacket for a reason.
I love Gil but the Manu take is tricky. LOU and Mal are great 6th men but Manu was a better overall player. What Gil is doing to Manu is the same that happens to Timmy when it comes to all time lists.
Gilbert doesn’t value defense saying Jamal and Lue over Manu!! With the game on the line!! What about playoff buckets! I am taking Ginobili. My G played with a broken arm in the playoffs!! take that for DATA!! While Lue and Jamal were benched during the final minutes of playoff games!! Jamal and Lue great regular season players while Ginobili was a great playoff player and his South American team went on to win the gold medal over the USA!! Manu is a legend!
points isn't the only thing that matters, Gil. yes, they matter, but taking a lesser role on a great team, shrinking your ego, passing ability, ability to keep the flow of the offense going.... lou will ain't really passing the ball. that stuff is important in a team sport. a lot of intangibles in the game, that's part of the reason Steph Curry is so great, it's not just his scoring, but it's his motion in the offense, his selflessness. looking at this stats, Curry got 6.8 asissts per 36 min, Lou Will got 5. I guess that's not as huge a difference as i figured lol... but i hope y'all see the point i'm trying to make.
I think the one big exception to the part about college coaches only caring about themselves or not knowing how to handle talent is Calipari out of Kentucky. Yes the main goal every year is to win a natty but he doesn’t force them really to conform to something they aren’t, he provides structure and allows the talent to thrive. Bam Adebayo even said Calipari called him and 2 other dudes into his office after they lost in the tournament and said y’all need to leave, you will not be welcome back on the team next year and I’m destroying y’all’s transcripts. He produces and his players love him for it.
Respect to Jamal Crawford, ridiculous offensive talent However... Manu Ginobilli was better all round, for the Spurs and for Argentina. Side note... Thank you for the euro step, Manu 💥
Understanding how these kids see the game now.. It's completely outrageous for someone to even let the thought of JR having a better career than TMac even cross their mind. LMAO I'm a JR fan but that's just crazy.
It's a team sport and it's only a handful of players..maybe that when they go to another team you can almost guarantee they're going to the playoffs or if you take them off the team the team would be in the lottery. To me that's an all-time great.
I can tell JR love to hoop Gilbert is all about 💸💸💸. It's kinda annoying I would've never played with that negu as my point guard. Homie sold tickets for sure that's all he was... A talent show.
Gilbert and JR had takes about Manu. Ask Timmy, Steph, KD, Harden (to name some) and they will tell you the facts. Not to mention the late great Kobe, who imo respected him the most (there's a well known story about the 08 Olympics that says it all).
lol I'm pretty sure JR Smith started the whole Tracy McGrady comparison himself on twitter. His fans are just supporting him. There was a whole segment on this on TV
Tweaking about the Manu slander. Crawford and Lou Will were good but Ginobli almost got a finals mvp. He was also the best player when they got the one seed and lost to the grizzlies once he got injured
It’s the “Basketball” Hall of Fame not NBA HOF so Manu has all his nba accolades & he’s medaled in the Olympics on top of whatever stats he has overseas! It’s way more then what you just did in the NBA. Idk if Gil knows this!!
JR Smith came out of highschool, he was 6’6 coming into the league & was an absolute high flying kid dunking on any and every one who tried to contest his rim attacks he than easily transitioned to shooting that 3 pointer. I respect JR he was an all time great ROLE PLAYER. He truly embraced that he was going to be a role player and he kept his bags packed and went wherever LBJ needed him to go won some rings along that path triple salute🫡🫡🫡
GA would make a great GM if he chose the path, beyond coaching and his high basketball IQ, his business acumen and insights would help elevate any organisation.
the manu take is...i get gilbert's point, manu spent the bulk of his career with duncan and parker, so it's hard to compare him to someone like jamal (although lou played with some pretty good players...not duncan but still pretty good). i think manu was better than jamal 1v1, but it's absolutely a lot closer than when you look at their career shit
22:29 Great point 🔥 so unrecognized I’m pretty sure PG is the All Time Leader with 5. But he also has to recognize the league was smaller. Hypothetically the 15/450* debate makes sense compared to the 30*/450* of the All Star game.
“I’m take all the Fiji water. So he can’t rehydrate” that’s a different level of petty 😂😂😂😂😂
I love how the media just took “you gonna just rot in Portland?“ comment and left out the compliment lol
yep the only ones who had the full comment was undisputed
JR Smith is a winner. Every team he went to got better
He helped Nuggets to conf. finals when melo was peaking
He was a big part of new Orleans teams with cp3
He was 6th man of year and big part of new York's best team since 90s
Starter for 2016 cavs championship and 4 straight finals
The Nuggets wasn’t JR lol. It was Chauncey
@@adgee5401 yes true offcourse chauncey was the main difference maker what I meant was the perception is that JR was a bad guy or selfish player when in reality he was really good and valuable to all teams he played for
@@sefs.k I get you. They all played their role
Facts.
JR Smith was a great player. He could do everything you expected a 2 to do
HAPPY BIRTHDAY 4X CHAMPION, 2 ALL NBA, SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR, INTERNATIONAL AND NBA HALL OF FAMER MANU GINOBILI!
JR my boy he was apart of bringing a Ring to the land 🔥
a part*
Yeeessssss siiirrrr
Y’all will never see one again
The league was
@@DottaYT you must be a Warriors fan🤣
“I’ll take 20 bottles with sparklers and sent 1 to him so it’s look like he can only afford 1” Lmaooooooo bro, I love Gilbert man, it’s take imaginations and great level of petty for that and quick too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Super dope to see JR in such a good space and place!
Did you watch the same interview I watched? Jr is in a weird space wearing those goofy ass contacts. Feminine ass dude
Ain't no damn 5 sixth men better than Ginobili. That's why he couldn't think of any. The DISRESPECT 😮
Only one off the top of my head is McHale that's a no brainer
@@dewanewelch1744 I feel that
the manu take is crazy. simplifying the argument to individual 1v1 is just that, an oversimplification. 1v1 definitely means something, but doesn't necessarily mean he's the better player. like, i would take kyrie 1v1 over curry, but in a real 5v5 game, curry's impact is far superior. therefore, i would say curry is the better player.
No sir no sir kyrie with lebron is different than kyrie without lebron in case you didn't see
@@B.Piercesports you make no sense , you just wanted to bring up lebron . He said facts .
Curry vs Kyrie one on one. Wow. Idk about that one. Curry is an all time great.
@@yahkimyisrayl6886 Kyrie wins that 1 on 1
Think of it this way, would a team made of 5 manus beat a team of 5 of the same (insert player) in a game
nice hearing from jr been so long always love him and gil choping it up.
When he said Lou Williams, I knew he’s trolling 😂😂
JR smith is a walking bucket, 2X champ and potential future pro golfer. Not bad for a guy that came out of high school 👏🏽
When he's hot that shot fall like rain no doubt but when he's not it's like wtf
Better than TMac!
Future pro golfer! 😂 there is no way dude, the guys on top are so many decades ahead of him, JR is a amazing athlete but let’s not disrespect the guys that been doing it their whole life
@@murdavashy L,
Him and Deron Williams is nice at 🏌️♂️
Amazing episode
Salute JR
Once A Knick
ALWAYS A KNICK
Yup once a loser always a loser…..sounds about right
THE WORDS NO PLAYER WANTS TO HEAR LOL
Props to JR going from SPED to getting a degree in his late 30’s. Quite the journey
Going back to school at 26. Every time I have second thoughts I think of JR
Im still waiting for someone to open up that conversation where it was alot of black kids in special Ed that came outta school normal as hell they just couldn't summarize shit n how kids used to tease kids for it, alot of times it used to be the bad kid who was in SPED but this conversation is too close to some.
@@BLINDIAN1995 good for you man best of luck
Lou is a certified bucket getter it’s crazy what he did with his size and height coming off the bench
Gil was at fur and love heavy when he first came to the wizards 😂😂😂😂
Manu played hard that translates no matter what he's a HOF . And I'm a Kobe Bryant and Laker fan for the record.
Brandon Jennings is on that list of guys that shoulda been able to jump into the league for sure
Didn't he?
@@Smith9082253 he came after LeBron so the one and done rule was in affect but Jennings was the first player to instead go overseas for a year of professional hoops before coming back to do the draft (he was the top ranked player in his class when he left and then fell to the 10th pick the next year when he got back) ** also he initially committed to Arizona for college but then he got outed for bogus act/sat’s and wasn’t gonna be academically eligible to play… which forced him to try the overseas route to the league)
That Manu take is wild
To say the least smh
shoutout to FUBO sports and gil, JJ.
this type of conversation being critical about the billionaire owners being cheap would never happen on a major network! but it’s facts.
Jr arguing with the kid about him not having a better career than tmac is crazy 😂😂
Manu could’ve easily averaged 20-25 ppg if he started his whole career
In what setting? Starting with the spurs… maybe he could average that ……Being the focal point of a team ….hell no
@@jwilliams1582 any setting. The only thing that is in doubt is would he stay healthy/have as long a career
@@luckunlim I don’t see him averaging 20-25 solo I see max 13-15 ppg
@@jwilliams1582 you dont know basketball kiddo. Manu was in a system designed not to have a 25-30 ppg player, and yet the only time he played above 30 min, he had 20-5-5. Any other team, he'd be the 1st or 2nd point of offense, and he'd get a lot more touches
@@jwilliams1582 he was getting 13-15 off the bench lol
Junior Smith was definitely underrated.
J.R helped bring a ring to my city Cleveland he’s certified for life 🙏🏾
And he helped in 2018 to not get another so it's even?
JR face at 17:24 is an instant Gif 😂
When JR threw the no look oooooop to Bron In game 6
I said oh we bout to win the championship
It’s not how you drive it’s how you arrive - Mama there goes that man 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love Swish 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
That gun powder went to Arenas head with that Ginobili take.
That's right Gil Flex Back! ... Exactly, JR -- how can a player NOT have emotions and still be expected to give themselves to the game.
I Love Crawford, and yes these guys are pros, but Manu was tough stop playing!!!
Glad y’all back 💯💪🏾
Don’t care what they talking about Ginobili is an amazing 6th man. Those other guys might have been better than him individually on one on one play but when it comes to affecting winning Ginobili is that guy and is why I consider him a better 6th man than those other cats
The idea that Mike built a tailored golf course is so funny lol
JR should still be in the league
I like how JR didn't give a cliché answer about handling your money
Jr deserves to be on a NBA team he still can help a team!
Manu Averaged 13.3 Lou Williams Averaged 13.9 and Jamal Crawford Averaged 14.6 so they are all essentially the same players. Manu was more of a two way player than those two.
Yea manu defense and playmaking is better thn them
Right!! I’m taking Manu B4 those two!!
Manu Euro Step was Amazing!
Ko8e Gave Manu Hella Respect 🫡 ✊🏾
Manu Won A Gold Medal!! He Beat USA 🇺🇸
2004! Manu A Goat 🐐
I think J.R Smith was As Good as Jamal and Lou 💪🏾💯
Why was Rodman in the summer league in the mid 2000’s? I can’t find that info online
Josiah be killin them adverts, though. Gill nice with them too.
Salute to JR for keeping it a bean on the fact of him being from the subs and not trying to fit in
Ayo this 59 minutes pod went by real quick. Felt like 20.
How is Gilbert so smart but so dumb funny 🤣
Great show man. I'm locked in.
Can you imagine HENNYGOD and HIBACHI in the club togther 😂
J.R was the coldest on Denver & cavs playing him on 2k with the 3s & dunks was priceless 🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡⭐️🚫🧢
Especially in Denver with melo and kmart
Knicks
Loved this interview maybe the best pod from Gilbert this year but the Manu slander made no sense. The guy was literally a wizard with the ball and was key piece for 4 championships
“A millionaire taking a pay cut for a billionaire” 🤯
SHOUTOUT LAKEWOOD NJ. We on the map 😌
2005 nba finals Tim Duncan finals mvp averaged 21 ppg right behind him was Ginobli with 19 ppg
I never knew he was Cuban
G.A. always spittin that real and I'm always here for it
Real talk.. and he a real one… but every now n then he let his personal feelings cloud what’s real…
I came here just to say J.R. Smith might have the most underrated highlight reel all time
Shout out to JR for keeping it real about not being from the hood and being in special ed. always respect when people keep it real
Regarding Manu vs. Crawford: too bad basketball isn't a 1v1 sport. Manu knew the role he needed to play, and he did his job extremely well. There aren't many in the NBA who would agree to come off the bench when they could easily have started for most of the other teams in the NBA. No one can convince me that Manu wasn't the VERY BEST 6th man of all time.
Say what you want about 1v1, but NBA basketball isn't played 1v1. Regarding Arenas' take, that's just his ego talking. Winning speaks a LOT louder than the random barbershop speculation we get all the time. And it's not surprising that ex-players are some of the LEAST objective when it comes to evaluating their peers, as you can see from the voting each year for MVP.
I agree with almost everything but I disagree so heavy on the Manu part… Dude literally lead Argentina to a ring. And his hypothetical situation of “what if Manu was the star in the NBA?” That situation never occurred for Jamal so I don’t see how he can hold that against Manu when Jamal never lead his team other. Take Cp3 and Blake off those Clippers teams they are the #1 pick for years to come
@@tbates4938 that’s a tough question bro. Manu was a DOG. Jamal Crawford has a bigger bag definitely but that don’t necessarily mean he’ll win a 1v1. Do y’all really think Manu was sweet or something? The man has a Hall of Fame jacket for a reason.
That nba 2k10 jr smith was like Jordan on Denver!!!!
Hell yeah 🤣😂
rodman taking the summer league bread and ghosting might the funniest shit i ever heard
What?!Ginobili was a beast with a left handed shot..
Gil’s takes are outlandish but thought provoking.
hard to name 5 sg’s above manu ; he in goat conversion
I love Gil but the Manu take is tricky. LOU and Mal are great 6th men but Manu was a better overall player. What Gil is doing to Manu is the same that happens to Timmy when it comes to all time lists.
Yes but never close hofer
Jamal Crawford would cook Ginóbili fasho 💯
But manu would cook jamal as well prime manu nope cooking him
Great episode
Great interview 💯
Gilbert doesn’t value defense saying Jamal and Lue over Manu!! With the game on the line!! What about playoff buckets! I am taking Ginobili. My G played with a broken arm in the playoffs!! take that for DATA!! While Lue and Jamal were benched during the final minutes of playoff games!! Jamal and Lue great regular season players while Ginobili was a great playoff player and his South American team went on to win the gold medal over the USA!! Manu is a legend!
Just a question why did Jamal get moved around so much ?? I never understood that.
points isn't the only thing that matters, Gil. yes, they matter, but taking a lesser role on a great team, shrinking your ego, passing ability, ability to keep the flow of the offense going.... lou will ain't really passing the ball. that stuff is important in a team sport. a lot of intangibles in the game, that's part of the reason Steph Curry is so great, it's not just his scoring, but it's his motion in the offense, his selflessness. looking at this stats, Curry got 6.8 asissts per 36 min, Lou Will got 5. I guess that's not as huge a difference as i figured lol... but i hope y'all see the point i'm trying to make.
I think the one big exception to the part about college coaches only caring about themselves or not knowing how to handle talent is Calipari out of Kentucky. Yes the main goal every year is to win a natty but he doesn’t force them really to conform to something they aren’t, he provides structure and allows the talent to thrive. Bam Adebayo even said Calipari called him and 2 other dudes into his office after they lost in the tournament and said y’all need to leave, you will not be welcome back on the team next year and I’m destroying y’all’s transcripts. He produces and his players love him for it.
Ginobili on a team where he was the #1 option, he would've went crazy.
Respect to Jamal Crawford, ridiculous offensive talent
However...
Manu Ginobilli was better all round, for the Spurs and for Argentina.
Side note... Thank you for the euro step, Manu 💥
People been side steppin way before manu got In the league
@@albgamin410 any references?, so I can look them up
Manu TECHNICHALLY has the more enviable career (subjective)
But Jamal, to me is a much better offensive player.
Understanding how these kids see the game now.. It's completely outrageous for someone to even let the thought of JR having a better career than TMac even cross their mind. LMAO I'm a JR fan but that's just crazy.
Lou Will over Manu??? Can't do that. Love Lou tho
🤣🤣🤣 he dehydrated the competition. Gil a fool, how you gone take all the fuji water 🤣
Dope show
It's a team sport and it's only a handful of players..maybe that when they go to another team you can almost guarantee they're going to the playoffs or if you take them off the team the team would be in the lottery. To me that's an all-time great.
Lmao he said I couldn’t afford a SHOT 😂
JR Smith rolled up with a bowl of hot cheetos on his head for this podcast.
It’s dreads ur dragging it
Tha color choice is 🤢
I can tell JR love to hoop Gilbert is all about 💸💸💸. It's kinda annoying I would've never played with that negu as my point guard. Homie sold tickets for sure that's all he was... A talent show.
😁😁😁 Gil was nice
Not that nice though
GIL BE DROPPING GEMS
i took Kwames side in the fued but this is must see content every drop my Gil and Josiah is a must watch immediately
Finally back. 🔥🔥📈📈
Speaking on the NBA owners segment the Mavericks and Cuban would turn into the Evil Empire.
Gilbert and JR had takes about Manu. Ask Timmy, Steph, KD, Harden (to name some) and they will tell you the facts. Not to mention the late great Kobe, who imo respected him the most (there's a well known story about the 08 Olympics that says it all).
lol I'm pretty sure JR Smith started the whole Tracy McGrady comparison himself on twitter. His fans are just supporting him. There was a whole segment on this on TV
Gilbert is the best in sports
Facts
Tweaking about the Manu slander. Crawford and Lou Will were good but Ginobli almost got a finals mvp. He was also the best player when they got the one seed and lost to the grizzlies once he got injured
It’s the “Basketball” Hall of Fame not NBA HOF so Manu has all his nba accolades & he’s medaled in the Olympics on top of whatever stats he has overseas! It’s way more then what you just did in the NBA. Idk if Gil knows this!!
JR Smith came out of highschool, he was 6’6 coming into the league & was an absolute high flying kid dunking on any and every one who tried to contest his rim attacks he than easily transitioned to shooting that 3 pointer. I respect JR he was an all time great ROLE PLAYER. He truly embraced that he was going to be a role player and he kept his bags packed and went wherever LBJ needed him to go won some rings along that path triple salute🫡🫡🫡
My favorite 6 man is JR 🔥🔥🔥🔥
GA would make a great GM if he chose the path, beyond coaching and his high basketball IQ, his business acumen and insights would help elevate any organisation.
What makes Manu a CHAMPION is that he’s a team player not 1v1 player.
All the bottle waters is a insane flex
why they have the saturation and sharpness filter all the way up on this??! lmao
that boy gil said he bought all the figi water 😭
Rickey Pierce, Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, John Starks, Vinny Johnson.
🔝6th Man in no particular order..
No ginobili? Credibility lost lol.
So what was Gil's record against DWade??
Gil is 3-18 against DWade. Gil: 22/3/5 DWade: 26/6/6 - their averages against each other.
the manu take is...i get gilbert's point, manu spent the bulk of his career with duncan and parker, so it's hard to compare him to someone like jamal (although lou played with some pretty good players...not duncan but still pretty good). i think manu was better than jamal 1v1, but it's absolutely a lot closer than when you look at their career shit
Gill n Jr high ass hell 😂😂
Who told him to do the lil yachti? 😁
Lmao he said Gilberto 😂😂😂
22:29 Great point 🔥 so unrecognized
I’m pretty sure PG is the All Time Leader with 5.
But he also has to recognize the league was smaller. Hypothetically the 15/450* debate makes sense compared to the 30*/450* of the All Star game.
only real laugh I seen from that one guy when he asked JR about Steph 1v1 golf
Man the having too much time and money is definitely a problem I wouldn't mind having lol
The disrespect on Manu is crazzzzzyyyyyy! He was a clamp, walking bucket and fuccin fearless🏁😮💨