Are Fender Squier Classic Vibes Good Quality in 2021
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- In this video we look at the quality control and the setup on a Squier Classic Vibe #squier #classicvibe #tele
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After several years of owning acoustic guitars, I bought my first electric two days ago, the one in this video based on an earlier posting you made. Also, I became a patreon member when I realized how much solid info you are providing to the community. As a fellow engineer, I appreciate the depths you go to in bridging the gap between the verbal descriptions of sound (which always drives me crazy) and the nuts and bolts of why something sounds the way it does.
With the verbal descriptions they do use a particular vocab, you just have to learn it. It is really worth it to get a notched neck level and feeler gauges to get the relief perfect. Graphtech makes pre cut nuts that you just have to sand from the bottom to fit it to your guitar, and you use the feeler gauges for that as well, at the first fret. A basic fret leveling is also very simple, just get a 1x2, glue a sheet of sandpaper, then gently sand the tops of the frets, and make sure you set the neck with zero relief while doing it. Crowning and polishing is much more time consuming and finessed, but those alone shouldn't cost too much at a luthier. You can check the evenness of the frets by setting the notched level on the frets instead of the fingerboard
@@juffurey I’ve already had experience in polishing the ends of the frets on my Traveler Ultralight, and think I can tackle the rest of the mods Dylan has suggested, but thanks for the thought.
Most excellent, and so straightforward. I really appreciate the clarity and experience!
So, some work to be done. You are right, easy stuff to fix, but tough to do if you are a 12 year old with no guidance. You are providing a super insight to the young'uns
and the not-so-young. My first Gibson was a '59 Les Paul Jr. DC that I got at the local pawn shop in 1967. A friend of a friend set it up for $10. It was like getting a new guitar for $10. I never met someone who had a guitar set up as well as mine. Many offers were made for my TV Yellow LPJr.DC, I accepted none! Not until I was offered a trade for a '61 ES125 w/two P90s. Lord, if I only had kept either! Both were superior instuments. Anyone reading this post will have a story or many tales about the one that got away. Thx Dylan for the service.
Thanks a lot for the precious information and the high quality of your videos Dylan. Much appreciated!
I purchased an older american Squire Bulett(strat) for my son's graduation 17 yrs ago, did some tweaking on the neck, intonation and shielding, plays and sounds great. Will always be worth more than I paid for it.
From Leo: Good video, People sometimes condemn a guitar that is hard to play as "junk", even though they just need 15 minutes of set up and fret polish. It makes sense that the cheaper guitar used cheaper quality wood. Squier guitars do hold up pretty well, even the cheapest ones. Like you said, it is still a good player. .
Great video man!
Great video. My classic vibe is a music machine. Affordable and easy to mod. Cut body contours into it and had it esquired for a few years. Now I’m swapping some Nashville pups into it and putting dimarzio cruiser set into other tele. Not hard to do but take your time and watch all these vids. Great content 🤙🏻
Left handed player in Japan, so I am always buying blind and then hoping to set them up and addressing all issues after the purchase.
thanks for sharing your expertise, Dylan. The world is a better place.
Exactly! I got the baritone. Same deal. Putting a Vagitrem and Gotohs on it, replace everything. The string trees on my Squiers are super cheap i like the rollers. Can't wait to have a vibrato on a baritele!
Absolutely love my cv 50s Tele from 2019
Hi Dylan,
It’s a rainy day so there is nothing to do but watch video’s. A big shout out to my homie’s Raleigh Sam Ash
. As a semi retired player/lover of the electric string instrument. I must say chiming in quality control has been pretty much watered down to the
Purchaser/owners knowledge. And I say that with as much respect as I can afford. A lot of guitar shops are actually pretty good. But to me the bigger you go,
With a few exceptions the more are going to fall through the cracks. As it appears the case with your tele. So learning the basics have become a basic necessity for the owner player.
And after all is done and said. There should be no reason for that Squire to play just as good as a made in Mexico tele or in some cases custom shop.
Thanks Dylan enjoying your video’s stay safe Brother. That Soap Bar is being installed as I am typing can hardly wait!
Peace!
Your previous video about the pickup upgrade was spot-on. That 2021 Classic Vibe 60s is not up to the level of some earlier Classic Vibe variants. Some guitarists are probably basing purchase decisions on having heard CVs with well-made pickups that are not on the current variant. Your vid prompted me to look under the bridge pickup on my 2011 Classic Vibe 50s Vintage Blonde. It has a heavy, thick, solid copper-clad steel base plate with no holes. People who have both say it's the same as Tone Rider's Hot Classic. People who've based a buying decision on having heard the better pickup, and then wound up with the perforated plate pickup could be very disappointed.
I have the 50’s version. I really like it and Im not a tele guy. It took a title setup but not much. Just to preference. I did buy it at a mom and pop so they tend to set them up before they hang them.
wow, thats so easy .I saw other videos on electric guitar set ups and its more complicated, you make it seem so simple + will book mark it . .
I'm glad you mentioned the neck. I've noticed with at least some squiers I couldn't put tens on them (came with 9s) because the neck got all squirrely (started getting kinks at various positions) when I tightened the truss rod to compensate. But, I still think that they are a good value overall.
Think I got lucky with my Squire bullet telecaster made by Fender , I'm a beginner and set up was easy after watching tons of how to vids .
I own a Squier CV 50's Telecaster and love it. No cosmetic imperfections on the neck and no jack issue. But, as usual Squiers can be hit or miss. So, it's always best to buy from a store where you can check it out before buying it. It's a 2020 model.
I bought a squire 70’s CV limited edition telecaster and I had to take it back to the store twice to swap because there were so many QC issues with the first and second ones I had. I had a similar issue with the jack bolt and the jack housing wasn’t put in flush with the guitar in any of the ones I got and the second one had a massive scar like figure in the grain that I wanted no part of lol. I ended up getting tired of going back and forth trying to find the perfect guitar but realized I could probably just make it “my own” and try and fix a few things. The videos on your channel have really been a great help in getting a grip on how to do that and in really understanding what to look for in a guitar. Cheers, Dylan ! Keep up the great work !
The 60s CV sunburst I bought had a faulty switch right out of the box. It also had three flaws in the finish on top. I took it back the next day and got my money back with several appologies. Two weeks later I bought an Affinty and replaced some of the electrics. The cost was still less than a new CV and I have better pots, pickups (Wilkinsons), pick guard, strings and a belly carve that most of the others don't have. You can't put binding on a belly carveout. With some adjustments I could at least get somewhat of a Tele sound from it, maybe a bit more growly than the CV I have.
I have bought 4 CV's. Some do have similar minor nut issues that I am too lazy to fix. The finished maple fretboards have perfectly polished and excellent frets. the laurel fret board was kind of ugly, and I had to oil it and the frets were dirty. The Rosewood looked a lot better after a bit of oil and cleaning. However, I was too lazy to polish both fret boards, and after a time it goes away. The reason why I have 4 is because I keep thinking I will mod the next one, but it sounds so amazing I can't do it. So now I have hum bucker and p90 pickups sitting in a drawer.
CV50 Strat for my daughter had decent neck wood. And although being pretty snobby on gear I really dig the neck.
I’ve got the baritone version of this.
It’s a keeper for sure
I have the same one ' the tuners on mine won't hold tune' other than that it's a pretty good guitar.
I also have the china version' standard tele.
No issues with that one.
Imo ' the china made ones are a better guitar.
I have a couple of Squier Affinity Teles (one 2020, one 2021) and a Squier CV 70's Stratocaster. The CV Strat is noticeably better quality overall. The Affinity Teles had (have) various small issues. The volume pot on one is basically an on/off switch: nothing until you get to about 9, then full on. The other Tele has a bent pot shaft. Should be pretty straightforward to replace, but IMO those are quality issues.
Other than that, yes, the screws are soft as butter. On one Tele, the heads of the jack screws were already cammed out and not installed straight, and would snag on anything fabric. Also noticed some excess glue along the edges of the fretboard, which was easy to remove.
Setup-wise, the Teles were OK from the factory, but the Strat setup seems better. Not sure if the Strat factory setup was different, or if Sweetwater fixed the setup before they shipped it to me.
But for the money, I can't complain too much. Like you say, it's a relatively low-risk opportunity to learn how to fix / improve your own guitar.
I bought a 2022 60s custom CV a few days ago... Slightly used but pretty immaculate. Only issue is a sleigh tly scratchy volume pot when you roll on the knob. Will be addressing that shortly.... Everything else was just unbelievably good.... This guitar punches well above its price..... Plus it is a beautiful looking tele. I've had a few squier strats that were dogs needing a lot of fixing... This is a different animal altogether
I love that double bound, burst body. I have a friend with a factory fresh 1962 Tele that was given to him in barter for work he did back in the late sixties. But for the truss rod adjuster being on the heel of the neck, it’s almost identical to that CV. That’s a beautiful guitar.
My friend does not play guitar, so his is a closet queen valued by Gruhn’s at somewhere between $8-$10k.
About necks, I love Squier Bullet Strats. Especially the ones made in Indonesia. I have had about 8 or 9 come through my hands and the necks are killer. Yes, in the winter when the wood shrinks for the first time here in the states, you have to address fret sprout. After that, no problem. I still own four of them. Strangely, the cheapest one of all, a 2005 hard tail, is my favorite. The only mods I made were Fender locking tuners and I modified it to be a string through body. The original top load bridge was terrible. Dull and buzzing.
But the necks on these guitars are thin and fast. I don’t know why but it’s just the Indonesian ones that I really like.
totally agree I have red sparkle bullet from ino and went through it new pickups and I love it
@@BarqB Glad to see you like the Bullet Strats too.
It’s funny that the next higher in the Squier line, the Affinity Strats, may have better tuners, but the neck at the nut is only 40mm wide. Way too narrow for my hands. And no way to remedy that. After handling a few of those I really came to dislike the Affinity necks. I don’t understand why they do that.
The bodies on the Affinity are thicker than the Bullet but not full-size like a Standard or CV.
Squier Bullet Strats are thin, light, fast and easily modded. The cheap trapezoid tuners are usually the first to go. My personal preference are the hard tail Bullet Strats.
Great video again. My Ibanez Gio 5 string bass had weird grain in the neck that caused it to actually make the fretboard sink from the 2nd to the 5th fret under the D and G strings and make the bass unplayable as a result. So yeah, less expensive guitars don't get the best wood, and in some cases, the wood should have been rejected outright.
My Gio was a bit sketchy
I have a black and white bullet Squire telecaster made by Fender and the maple neck its got nice grain .
In response to your "Squire Neck Question", the wood on my Affinity Strat's Maple neck is perfect. The Indian Laurel fret board has one small imperfection that you have to look very closely to see. I love the guitar and overall am extremely happy with the quality of this $220 guitar. (Note: I did have Sweetwater install a Graph Tech nut, saddles and tuners, as well as Plek the fret board, so it really isn't the same guitar that came out of the box ;-) Besides my late summer purchase above, over the last two months I've bought four more "beginner" guitars (all four of my kids decided they wanted instruments for Christmas). The two Squires (Bullet Mustang & mini Strat) have the same Maple / Laurel necks as my Strat and both look perfect. The wood quality on the Yamaha acoustic is also excellent. The Ibanez Gio is over all an excellent guitar for the money, though I would say its Maple neck is the least aesthetically pleasing of the five.
Every squire I've ever owned ( about 15 or so) has ALWAYS had a great neck
What was the cost for the nut saddles and plek job?
@@thmmke6926 Hello thm mke, On top of the parts cost (saddles and a string set), the services fee for the nut, saddle, Plek and setup was $340. While this may seem a little "over the top" for this guitar, ease of playability was the most critical factor for me with this purchase. I'm a 59 year old relearning to play after 43 years. I have rheumatoid arthritis (under control w/ meds), the beginnings of traditional arthritis, plus a partially disabled left index finger (I dislocated it 20 or so years ago ... it makes muting the E string on a C chord w/ my thumb a real female dog ;-). BTW, the cost of the nut is included when you get the combined Plek & nut service. I'm 99% sure they fashion a custom nut from a large slab of Tusq material. Also, a couple other factors made my purchase a tad more reasonable: Sweetwater helped me stay within my budget by giving me a cost break on some items and I received $50 in bonus bucks that went to my amp purchase a couple of weeks later.
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I remember in one of your videos, “ a really good setup on an inexpensive guitar is always better than an expensive badly setup guitar” Those words gave me courage, now I go crazy at the local store helping the guys with setups and enjoy every moment.. Thanks to you ..
I got a CV tele last year that plays, stays in tune and sounds great! The metals and chrome hardware is cheap and tarnishes quickly. The tuners aren’t the best, but it holds tune like a beast. That said it’s staying because sound, feel and stability are what matters to me and the CV have those qualities. I’ve tried higher end t-style guitars, but my CV just sounds more tele to me? Sweet video…
Had similar experience with Squier 50's tele. One nut just broke at the head when trying to open starch plate. My neck wood was fine but the body was not too good. There was no shielding inside the guitar. Answer from the fender support was: "Unfortunately, many of these classic vibe guitars do not actually come fitted with any shielding. Apologies for any annoyance!" - so the guitars in the reviews are better than what you actually get.
Ive just bought one in 2023 and it came pretty well setup. It's perfect in every way. The quality is impressive. Better than my Epiphone Casino. Feels just like the real deal.
At the local shop (pretty big shop) they will setup and do anything you want, regardless of guitar price, as long as you ask. I have had them do a full fret job on a Mexican Fender.
That thing is gorgeous.
Squire has stepped up their game for sure
definitely a Sam Ash, visited the same place on my trip to Raleigh
I bought a FSR Squier 60s Custom Esquire and it’s an awesome axe for €399. Yes the electronics can be upgraded, but it’s fine as it is. I own a MIM Esquire so there’s no point. The Laurel is good too and still far nicer than Pau Ferro. One thing I will say is that the sound is a lot harsher than any MIM I own. The saddles are metal and I wonder if brass would soften the tone?
Can you make a video on firebird pickups and why they are different to mini humbuckers? And maybe make a full humbuckers sized firebird just to see what would happen
Squires are great, I bought a squire bass a few months ago, had electronics issues the second day, but the neck the body, all things great, $100 and I have a pretty decent version of the classic fender jazz bass. Same experience with a squire tele I own. Aftermarket stuff is so plentiful it’s hard to choose , wouldn’t even bother with classic vibe as it has the same issues as the cheaper ones, unless you’re gonna keep it that way.
Got my Squire CV 60's yesterday by Sweetwater. Had them do a set up and replace the nut with Tusq. Very nice guitar. Very little cosmetic flaws and it was a demo! So I saved some money. I think I'm going to upgrade the bridge to a 6 saddle and possibly make it a 4 way switch. Definitely going to swap all screws for stainless and replace the jack - great tips and thank you. I live on the beach and the saltwater is merciless. Is there a second video with this guitar? Love your channel and thanks for all the great info!
Interesting that you swapped the nut. Those are bone nuts. Most people rather have bone (I like tusk better also)
@@DylanTalksTone I just like the tone...they did a pretty good job with the setup considering it was shipped halfway across the country. Will dialing in the truss rod to get just a better fit mess with the intonation? Thanks for all the cool videos. Just got hip to your channel and am going through it! All the best!
I was in the cabinet business for 20 years. Just like we are beginning to see different woods for fretboards we were previously unfamiliar with, there are other (less expensive) species of woods that have properties similar to maple. There are many different factors that contribute to what we call "maple"...where it was grown, the soil, the amount of sunlight it gets, etc. Just stuff like that can affect the frequency of mineral streaks, etc. I dealt with some factory-built cabinet companies that I often wondered about...if it looks like maple and feels similar to maple, it's possible that alternate woods could be used. I worked for a large company, and lost super low-margin jobs. I was convinced that I was losing out to a company that was using cheaper Asian woods. I am not making accusations about guitar companies but, based on my opinion, using similar alternates could be quite feasible.
I bought a 2018 Squier classic vibe Tele a few years ago. Everything was great other than the nut. The nut looked like it was cut with a hammer and chisel. Had to replace it.
I had to replace the jack on my 52 reissue Tele USA made.
I wish there were more American or Mexican double bound Teles. How come the $400 dollar guitars look nicer than the $1100-2200 ones?
Business card is 14 thou. A bit more than 10 thou fender specs. But your choice. Keep a set of used strings cut off a few inches past the ball end as feeler gauges. Also you can keep
Some featureless pics in your chosen gap thicknesses for checking Action.
I'll admit that the dark fretboard looks good with that finish, indeed it's the first time I've seen a tobacco burst that I actually don't hate, I think Tele (as a Tele player), and I think maple fretboard. Maple is just better. Harder. More reliable. But in this instance, I'll make an exception. My main contention with Gibson (and Epiphone) guitars is that their necks are too bendy. Mahogany is a good wood, but it belongs on a body for its tonal characteristics. In a set-neck setting, I, as a Fender player, who picks up a Gibson (or Epiphone) with a mahogany neck, have to adjust my playing style to avoid bending the neck out of tune. It's not as bad with a multi-ply neck, or maple necks, but Fender has a claim on stable necks for the very fact that theirs are bolt-on and usually maple. I sent back an Epiohone Explorer last year because the neck was basically spaghetti, even knowing it would be a softer neck playing others in shops and finding the same issue in Gibsons that I had played. It was an exceptionally soft neck and, while I still have neck bend when I go "gorilla grip" in the passion of playing like I do on my Tele, the effect is noticeable but not as bad on the guitar they sent as a replacement. A shame because the fretboard had some nice grain, but the folks st Zzounds were amazing. Long story short, I've never had any neck bending issues my my Fender or Squier guitars that had maple necks.
Would you say that tex-mex pickups would improve this guitar, I just purchased a Classic Vibe and wanted your opinion 🎸
Would like to see this evaluation for an Ibanez Gio.
See my comments above...
I bought a $200 7 string. Needed a slight neck adjustment. Pickups needed proper adjustment. Otherwise, ready to go. An intermediate player may not even have noticed.
Dylan, can you recommend a guitar setup kit from Amazon?
I picked up a squier baritone cabronita telecaster (burst) this past month. the neck looks incredible, but i wonder if i got a 1:100 grain pattern/playability or if the baritones just get a better timber.
What part of the set up NEEDS to be changed when going from 9’s to 8’s? Ive been debating with several people that i dont believe the nut needs to be changed when going to a smaller gauge. As long as there isnt any buzz (etc) i dont see the nut needs to be messed with. Ill still check action height, intonation, etc.
I like mine!
It amazes me it had no fret buzz, no high frets and fret leveling needed. Or did you leave that out because it is too hard for most people to check and fix? I really want to learn to do that myself.
Early last year, I pinged 5 or 6 Reverb dealers for the CV50 Strat and told them that I'd be buying from the one that sends me the best offer within two days. Replies ranged from 0 - 20% off. Not sure how they react these days...
I bought in 2020 a Squier black label Mexican made 1993 white Stratocaster, and I can tell you for sure, these new Indonesia made Classic Vibes Squier are WAY better made and finished ! My (MN3) Strat had low quality tuning machines (like the budget Bullet ones), bridge sadlles and plate, 5 or 6 parts alder body. Low quality ceramic pickups... BUT the neck is really awesome in matter of shape, frets, nut, well-rounded edges...
Nice double binding, but the neck is not so hot . . . no skunk stripe. And, some woods, like poplar and Agathis are very soft, and the screw holes strip out easily. Looks like a Sam Ash 'special' run . . . cheaped out on the neck.
I've found that Squier guitars usually need to have the frets polished when new
My Affinity tele definitely needed that, but my Classic Vibe Strat was perfect
I just played mine in if they are scratchy just do a lot of bends it will work it in I played mine a couple days and it plays pretty good now
@@TheRealDealBobbySteele Agreed, and I've seen that on US made ones too.. No biggie
I have one of these Squire Classic Vibes (FSR with Candy Tangerine body). The neck has been changed/upgraded to an aftermarket maple one from Guitar Anatomy here in the UK.
Overall, I get the setup to what’s described here and elsewhere. However, despite getting the intonation pretty good between open and 12th fret, when I play open chords up near the nut it still sounds terrible! The notes fretted in this region are all very sharp!
I’ve tried filing the nut, as much as I dare, which has ‘improved’ matters considerably but it’s still an issue. I only have those really cheap, flexible (almost wire) files because I can’t really justify spending the huge amount on a set of proper files as it’s not something I’m doing all the time.
Any other suggestions people?
Even if things can be fixed by a setup from the end user, I still think some things like fret sprout or poor nuts are quality control issues. It's the fact that the company is entirely aware of the possible problems, but is okay with accepting a few bad cases that sneak through. Squier, and other guitar companies, know fret spout is a thing. They know why it happens. I see it as a quality control problem because they are fully aware that it's a possible side effect, but do not take the one step further to minimize or eliminate the problem. It's more of a macro level quality issue than it is an individual check of a guitar.
When you have inexpensive guitars one of the reasons that they are inexpensive is that they are produced quickly so spending time correcting issues also leads to a more expensive guitar. Squiers are made to fit into a specific price range. Spending more money on setup and fretwork means that you either need to raise the price of the guitar or save money by using cheaper materials and components. If you have a a Squier Bullet that sells for 200 bucks, the manufacturer is making a profit, Fender is making a profit, and the dealer is making a profit and that price also pays for shipping. So that $200 Bullet probably cost 50 bucks to make at most. If you add 20 bucks to cost of production by doing fret work then the price of the guitar is going to go up pretty substantially. One of the things you pay for between the bottom tier of guitars high quality guitars is the time, time to manufacture and time spent making sure they play as they should. Sometimes an inexpensive guitar may be fantastic because everything just went right and there weren't any corrections needed. But there is no consistency at the lower end of the market because you're not paying for inconsistency. Almost every company nowadays offers guitars at all different price points so that whatever quality level you're looking to buy in, they have an option.
Fret sprout and the ends of the nut sticking out a bit are usually something that happens when the wood dehydrates, this generally happens after the guitar leaves the factory so the manufacturers dont have much control over it. That said, every Squier I've had benefited from some fret/nut work, they gotta keep costs down somehow and its worth it for me to save that money and do a little work myself, shit, i think its fun.
It’s Dec 2022. I bought that same guitar because it was $209 open box black Friday deal. Seemed too good to pass up given all the positive talk about it. Out of the box, definitely unplayable. I don’t know nut filing but there is buzzing going on. The B string sounds sitar-y and the low E rattles. I bought compensated saddles cuz it sounds like crap. Painful. Can’t intonate it. Hoping they help. The neck pickup sucks. But maybe modeling amp settings can help til I can buy new pickups. Tuners feel weak to me. My Mexican strat with Texas Specials make this Tele 60’s CV feel like a cheap toy. It looks so good. Hopefully I can make it sound good too. And maybe I’ll try to learn the skills myself
It would make my week if Dylan wore those aviators and said, "What we have here is a failure to communicate."
My Squier Classic Vibe Starcaster was shit for setup and the store I bought it at had the tech go over it. Now its one of my favorite guitars. everything was great but the setup
Yeah, mine was shit too. I haven't changed the strings yet but I think it came with 9s. I did a basic setup but the action is still too high and I tuned it down to C Standard with 9s on it. Crazy. Wondering whether to send it back for another one or just pay for a pro setup. Also, I know they come with 250k tone pots. Have you given any thought to changing the wiring? I've got some nice 500ks sitting in a drawer that I'm thinking of changing out but I kinda want to make sure it's gonna set up properly before digging in. BTW Brandonwound pickups does a rewire on WR pickups for $80 a piece. I love that company. Best pickups I've ever used. But again not dropping money until I get a second opinion on setup. Curious about you're thoughts on the stock pickups and possible harness change.
@@captainkirk70 Did you buy it at a store with fender certified tech? lots of times certified techs will fix for free under warranty. just tell them your thinking of sending it back fender cert techs generally want to keep you from sending it back. . that being said an in depth setup should be around a 100 bucks most places. It sounds great like it is so I wouldnt change wiring unless needed, my self. It truly is wide range and so versatile I cant get almost any sound out of it I want and the neck is very thin and playable. My action and relief were so outa range it was incredible. Ive heard stock squier vs fender vs fender cunife pickups reviews and I actually thought the squiers sounded best. look for reviews on yt. get a premium setup. relief , height , nut check and have em check fret levels. then try it you may be so surprised how it sounds once it plays well.
@@BarqB , No. I got it off Amazon. Always a risk but I like the fact you can return anything and they pick it up for free. Might just order another one and return this one. Seems weird that they used a Fender neck but Gibson style bridge/tailpiece. I'm glad yours worked out. The reviews seem all over the place. Some say its perfect out of the box and some say its a shit setup. Kind of a luck of the draw on Squiers and Epis. My CV Tele was perfect out of the box. Starcaster not so much.
Squire will take you higher 👆 🔥
Imperfections are what keeps the price affordable. I can live with that.
How high do you set the strings at the 12th fret?
Dylan does your company offer wiring harnesses for Squier tele guitars with top quality pots and wiring, with an upgraded input jack too, ready to be mounted to the control plate? If not that would be a pretty good selling product and I'd be on board from day one, and I'd need three to start with for all my classic vibes. Really appreciate this video as I've got this model guitar and have already replaced the input jack now I want to do the wiring, pots and selector switch and see how that affects the tones detail.
Available on the website
@@DylanTalksTone cool, I'm checking it out now
I have one of these and I rate it with my Gibson R8 as an easy to play, stable and comfortable guitar to play - weight, neck, tonal range - so much better than more expensive instruments!
I think any squire needs a set up , brought a fender strat still had to set it up, I think it’s best just to set it up to your own playing style.
Damn, a Squier with binding? That's a first for me.
Personally, I would prefer a used mim player series over a new squier cv
where did you get that tool caddy that says "tool caddy"?
Very informative video but I was expecting to see how you did the intonation, unfortunately you skipped that part
The fingerboard thickness seems really thin to my eyes. I've not owned a real Tele, but that looks like they used the minimum amount of Rosewood possible there. Is the body thinner as well?
PRS has good set-ups from factory from 450 euros for a 24 SE, no excuse from other manufacturers. Yamaha also traditionally has good set ups from factory. Squier + set up would bring you close to the price of a PRS SE...
Check the intonation on the first 3 frets please.
They certainly should do a better QC.. But, as someone who can't stand the looks of a PRS, it all comes down to that at the end of the day.. I like traditional guitars. Even when they suck compared to other brands lol
@@BladeDoomer86 weird. I think of prs as traditonal. I group gibsons, fenders, and prs as all classic american brands.
@@BladeDoomer86 Pacifica or Revstar then? Hagstroms have good factory set-ups also.
I'm sure there are many brands which make sure the guitars are playable out of the factory in the $500 range.
Adjusting bridge and trussrods is OK even for a beginner , nut filing and fret leveling IMHO no.
Question my son asked me if Fender owns Jackson then besides body shapes what's the difference between a cheaper Jackson and a squier.
For one, the necks. Necks on Jacksons are generally thinner, are shaped differently and have a tad wider nut. They also often have a 12-16 compound radius fretboards. Plus a lot of them have 24 frets.
They feel totally different (in my experience).
I have a couple of the very inexpensive Squiers, a Tele and a Mustang, both made in Indonesia in the last few years, and they both have decent, straight grain. Just two guitars in my sample, so quite possibly just luck.
I have the stripped screw issue on one of my bridge plate screws too. How do you get it out?
I have just drilled them out. Brutal but effective.
Pick up heights ?
My gripe with squier’s is the frets seem to wear very fast. I played one to the fingerboard in under a year.
Such a beautiful guitar for the money though, I mean look at it ... Small setup and it plays just as well as a Fender.
I have a nought in the wood on the back of the body on mine but kinda liked it , is it a bad thing ?
It depends. I have a large knot in a Dean neck that's 30 years old. Never had an issue. I've had 5 guitars with knots in the neck. The only one with a problem was a cheap Gibson starter pack guitar. That developed a twist within a year.
A knot in the body is just a cosmetic issue that you may or may not like the look of.
A knot in the neck is a potential stability issue, or an indicator that it may develop a twist or uncorrectable relief.
Great video 👍 What type of files do you use on the nut?
In the description
Oh man! Sorry about that. Thank you for the reply!
Why didn't you show the wiring and pickup change? Did you have to change pots etc?
As we mentioned in the video…. We are doing the controls in a Separate video.
And the install would make the video would be too long and then someone would complain about that… or something else
@@DylanTalksTone , Sorry. Missed that part. Thank you.
The things I have found negative on newer Squier quality control is the following:
1) My Jazz bass in natural finish has a knot on the heel of the body on the front facing side. It's small, but it looks like damage if not looked at closely and it frustrates me everytime I look at it.
2) Body seems, where the multi-ply bodies are glued together. More often than not, the middle piece of the body is slightly thicker than the other pieces. I've seen it in Squier and in Mexican Fender. The best place to notice it is right between the tremolo and the strap button. If you hold the guitar on an angle, you may notice that the center board is slightly thicker. Also, most often, I have seen it on opaque bodies. The bursts and translucent bodies don't seem to have this issue.
3) Excessive fret sprout. I know that as guitar bodies and necks dry, they shrink but if the wood was properly dried to begin with, the fret sprout would be minimal. Squier pumps out so many guitars that they don't always have the luxury to wait for woods to dry properly and this will cause the shrinkage and ultimately, fret sprout.
4) loose nuts all over. Again, it could be related to wood shrinkage, but also possibly due to being sloppy with the electronics
All that being said, would I not buy a Squier because of these things? No, I would still buy one, but I would look it over with a fine tooth comb first and absolutely wouldn't order one online. I want it in my hands, in the store so I can feel it, inspect it and play it. Then, the guitar shop I would buy it from would do a proper setup, for free, before it leaves the store.
Typically, I've found over the last 25 years, that the difference between a decent playing guitar and a great playing guitar is a proper set up, possibly a little fret work.
What you need to understand is that for the price your getting a great deal
Even Fender Player Series screws are bad. Adjusting the pickup height on my bass I stripped one out and it wasn't exactly tight or anything. I think Fender just uses cheap screws.
Ridiculous. How much could quality screws possibly raise the price? Plus just using a bone nut. I'd gladly pay and extra $15 to not have to deal with that crap.
@@captainkirk70 It's my sincere hope that the number of companies now offering inexpensive guitars with premium features (roasted maple necks, stainless steel frets, etc.) will force the big three to step up their game in the sub $1000 market.
@@sqidvishus , yup. Even Epiphone are using quality pots, bone nuts etc now. Of course the set up was dreadful. I ordered online because I wanted the Olive Drab Firebird. After a setup its great but they did nothing at the factory.
Output Jack was probably fine until 2:57 to 3:30
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@@DylanTalksTone again at 6:32 Love your channel and watch nearly every video. 🤘🏻
I winced at that
Lol. That jack has been coming loose every other day for a week. I can WAIT to get it out of there. Also… if your jacks and cables can’t handle that level of abuse, there are links below to the cables we use and the wiring we use…. Bullet proof.
Guitars aren’t as fragile as people want to think they are.
I was thinking the same thing 🤣
SLAB sawn neck: CHEAPER, but more flexible, leading to uneven string pull!
The real flaws in Squiers are the electronics and hardware can be very questionable. The best ones can sound OK but they all benefit from bridge/tuner/pickup/pots upgrades.
My name is Dr Terra Graff
The word to describe taking off the sharp edges of the nut is chamfering.
The unstable Squier necks for me are enough reason to not buy them. No matter how good they look, this is a huuuge red flag and a dealbreaker. I had one squier I basically had to throw away because the truss rod wasn´t able to hold the neck straight. After a year of adjusting the relief I just gave up on it. I also believe there are plenty of 200 euro/dollar guitars that compete with the classic vibe squiers.
Thrown away completely? 😔
Oh, there are replacement necks, or some could use the rest as a project guitar… just sayin‘…
@@lone-wolf-1 I've been looking for a replacement neck but decided I might as well just get another guitar for that money!
I ended up just using the neck and body to practice repairs on! Like fret leveling and working on the nut!
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Ok, so not thrown away…😊
I understand your frustration though…😏
If you're tearing your finger apart on the corner of a nut, I'd say that's a quality control issue.
Well that’s a little dramatic lol
@@DylanTalksTone Haha! I speak from experience. It's no fun!
The screws are a drag. I sent my Squier back asap…
Nooooo... You don't adjust the action by messing with the truss rod!!
You adjust the saddles, and if needed, file the nut
You adjust the truss rod to take out back bend or neck relief. (a concave bow)
Good grief… we covered this pretty thoroughly
Correct neck relief is set using truss rod. All measurements of action are then taken and adjusted at saddle then nut if required
Y’all must be new here.
Put a capo on one of these and it's a disaster. My cv doesn't stay in tune for ten seconds with or without the capo. Not a good guitar at all
Not as good as the initial made in China models.
I bought a NEW Squire Classic Vibe 60s Telecaster from Long and McQuade. I took it back the next day and got my money back. IT DID NOT WORK AT ALL ! ! ! NOW I AM SCEPTICAL ABOUT BUYING ANY (CHINESE) GUITAR NOW ! ! FOUR INSPECTORS SIGNED THEIR NAME ON AN INSPECTION TICKET WITH THEIR PERSONAL STAMPS. ! 1 ! ! ! ! !aS FAR AS THE FINISH GOES, i FOUND SEVERAL FLAWS IN THE FINISH THAT FOR A BRAND NEW GUITAR, i CAN'T ACCEPT.