There comes a time when a person reaches a certain level in their career when they should chill and allow others to shine. I think Eddie is such a person. He doesn't need to be hooping and hollering to prove his worth. We from his Era know who he is and if he decides he wants to get back out there, his loyal fans including myself will be there. Long live Eddie Murphy!!!
You're missing the point. It's about he can't be your favorite comedian if he hasn't done it in 30 years. Newsflash...DL, Katt, and Chapelle don't HAVE TO do this comedy shit. There's nothing left to prove. Period
B.s Richard Pryor Bill Cosby open the doors for Eddie Murphy but Eddie Murphy dogged Bill Cosby Eddie Murphy trash💯💯💯🚮💫 Katt Williams told the TRUTH💯💯🤷
@@blacqdiamond6670 “Eddie Murphy trash”? I’m yet to see a stand up act that can fuck with Delirious. Most don’t even compare to RAW. He’s one of the GOATS. DL Hughley is talking shit and can suck a dick. If Notorious BIG was still alive but not rapping he’d still be considered the fucking GOAT. Eminem is considered one of the GOATS by many and still would be long after he has made his last song and still lives, so that analogy of a bird not being a bird if it doesn’t fly anymore or a shark not being a shark if it doesn’t swim does not really work when discussing artists. Give Eddie his dues. He’s still a GOAT. Every one of the SNL legends that live will tell you that, with conviction.
I'm a believer if a person reaches a certain level of greatness they no longer have anything to prove in terms of output they have cemented there legacy and eddie is one of them
DL's response is one the most asinine things I've ever heard. "If you don't do it anymore, then you're not that or the greatest" Then, by this standard, is MJ not the greatest basketball player, Tom Brady not the greatest quarterback or football player, Tiger not the greatest golf player, Serena not the greatest female tennis player? STFU! If we're talking about legacy, his comments are void and moot. If you're talking about being compared based on current body of work or current stand-ups, then it's not fair to place him in this conversation to be rated because he doesn't do this anymore. However, let's be clear, while I'm not an Eddie Murphy fan, let him come back and do a stand up routine. He will fuk all of them up and they know it. This shit is coming off as jealousy and an axe to grind.
@@warrenpeas now you’re just being dumb. I had never even heard of Katt Williams before 2023. There are names you say that signifies greatness. It's like you’re saying Ali wasn’t a great boxer. MJ paved the road for basketball players. Perfect example is Tony Hawk. IDK any other skateboarder, but I sure as heck have heard of him. Katt sounds like an angry little man.
When it comes to being the "GOAT" of anything, this argument being made by Katt and DL about actively practicing the craft is irrelevant. The GOAT conversation is about who did what while they were active. You can't penalize someone for not still being active 30 years later, unless you're using it as a deciding factor to pick someone over him who HAS been active for 40+ years. It's like saying Jordan isn't the GOAT because he's not still in the NBA it makes no sense.
@@pilldabest You're making a different argument so it appears what I said went over your head. DL is saying you're not what you don't do anymore. He asked would you want a lawyer that doesn't practice law anymore defending you on a big case? That scenario and analogy is irrelevant because the GOAT debate is about what they did during their reign. It compares people from different eras. Greatest "OF ALL TIME". Whether or not they're active at the time of the discussion holds no weight. If you want to make a separate argument that only 2 stand-up specials can't make you the GOAT that's fine but that's not what DL or Katt said. And a counter to that alternate argument is "Comedy" isn't just stand-up, and Eddie one of the few comedians to dominate stand-up, TV, and movies. I'm not even saying Eddie IS the GOAT, but just that it seems people don't know how the GOAT conversation actually works.
Agreed, and I say again, it's not just about body of work. These young cats have (10) times more doors open for them. And a zillion times more technology, and yes probably more specials. But they're STILL trying to measure up to "Delirious' and "Raw" It's not, "Body Of Work" It's "IMPACT" "Eddie Murphy" is definitely the Greatest of our time ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Eddie Murphy started as a comedian and then opened up a new lane for comedians by starring in movies and excelling in those roles. He might not be the 🐐, but he’s one of the goats of comedy. Without him starring in movies like “Trading Places”, and “Beverly Hills Cop”, you don’t have people like Kevin Hart, and so forth getting the chances today to star in movies.
Ririchard Pryor done all that before Eddie Murphy dude. Made it possibly for the likes of Murphy. Richard Pryor is also the goat of goats. Chappelle is number 2. Bernie max 3. Chris rock 4.
What DL is now is a middling comic who will never have 1/100th of the success or talent that Eddie Murphy has. What he was? .... see above. Same goes for Katt Williams but more so. Haters gonna always hate. DL is a socially aware and thoughtful dude. Not in the same league as Eddie though when it comes to talent. Just because something is said to sound profound and meaningful doesn't mean it's not stupid, jealous and self serving when held in context to the topic.
Eddie's legacy is set in stone. The ultimate bench mark for a stand up is there specials. You can make an argument Raw and Delirious are the two best stand up specials of all time. And Eddie did those specials in his early to mid 20's. There is no other stand up that can say that. What Eddie did at that age dwarfs what 99 percent of the comedians in any era including Katt have done.
What you're saying here doesn't make sense in the context of the video. The GOAT consideration is the following: "Is this person the best person to have ever done thing X." By what age such and such a person accomplished something doesn't matter. It may be impressive, but it doesn't resolve the GOAT question.
"I disagree with having to continue doing something until you expire to be considered THE GOAT. There was a era in Hollywood where they promoted one of us at a time but now you see many doing what they do in varying ways. In my view what one does professionally or as a hobby doesn't define who one is or has to be and we define ourselves period" ~Gregory D. Anderson, Jr.
Hell, DL Hughley, whom I thought was funny as hell. Then I saw some footage of him being racist!! He lost this fan!! I always hoped he was just a bad day... He comes to Alabama look me up and bring me to your comedy show!!
Yup... I disagree with him, though: if one was the best for 10 yrs or over a long period of time or a contender for the best, he or she does not become any less excellent because they retire. That would be like saying Simone Biles has to keep doing gymnastics in order to be considered the best or a contender for that status. This is the age of video, and he did it long enough (didn't just jump in and jump out for a few months or years). The jokes do hold up. Give Eddie his due. He started comedy as a child like Dave Chappell. He was successful right away but kept working. Made enough $ to move on and explore/excel at the things that resonated with him as a man (acting and music...travel and family, and whatever else he's been up to all this time since leaving stand-up).
Katt is good but no one is like Eddie. Eddie gave Dave Chapelle his chance. Eddie said everything katt can say everything he would like times have change and if he could he can't do it like eddie
@@mikes4593 I don't see that from Katt. I see him as more of a political comedian because of the topics he talks about. He tries to open up people's eyes and minds to the situations going on in the world today while making it hilarious at the same time. Dave Chapelle is the master of his craft at this point. No one has been more consistent at it. Yet, when he left that 50mil on the table, everyone was talking bad about him saying he was a crackhead and went to Africa and had a nervous breakdown. 😓 Now look at him, the highest paid comedian in the world and he isn't looking back.
Eddie did SNL and movies as well and I think that collection of work is what ppl talk about not just his stand up! He's also on everybody's Mount Rushmore
People like Eddie & Schwarzenegger reached the pinnacle of their careers back then and have left behind an incredible body of work. They don’t have to keep going. Chapelle & Rock are great but they didn’t have box office movie power the way Eddie did.
DL's response is one the most asinine things I've ever heard. "If you don't do it anymore, then you're not that or the greatest" Then, by this standard, is MJ not the greatest basketball player, Tom Brady not the greatest quarterback or football player, Tiger not the greatest golf player, Serena not the greatest female tennis player? STFU! If we're talking about legacy, his comments are void and moot. If you're talking about being compared based on current body of work or current stand-ups, then it's not fair to place him in this conversation to be rated because he doesn't do this anymore. However, let's be clear, while I'm not an Eddie Murphy fan, let him come back and do a stand up routine. He will fuk all of them up and they know it. This shit is coming off as jealousy and an axe to grind.
It kindof fit into that Ears guy interview about Alpo. Alpo was so disrespectful and cocky because of what he was. But he not that anymore and some new wild dumb mf took him out
Flat out wrong…your past influences your present and greatly determines your future….Eddie Murphy laid a great foundation in his past to enjoy the success he has now…opening the door for other comedians such as Kat and DL to talk hot garbage trying to sound deep
@@hrrspaul4 I agree. But i think there should be a balance. I don't think many today actually see Eddie as a comedian. He's an actor first and foremost. And yes, 2 home runs (his specials) is impressive but it's absurd to view him even as top 100 compared to comedians that have worked for literally decades with many great specials (my hot take). And we also forget comedians that routinely sold out coloseums filled with 70,000 people racking in millions and millions of dollars. That in itself is incredible. I'd say he's the greatest COMEDIC ACTOR of all time due to him drawing BILLIONS of dollars from globally whether great or terrible.
I love this DL - I became a fan of his late, but love where he is right now. I can't wait to see him perform on the 26th of March!!! I love that he thinks, and ensures that his comments and answers add value. I love intelligent comics.
Same. I didn't like D.L when he came out, not even on the Kings of Comedy. I began liking him when his comedy style changed with more intellectual content. 👏
D.L is making a great point. I love his perspective on why he does stand up. Katt can be perceived as a hater but it took Hugley to paraphrase it. Eddie is a pioneer and trailblazer.
@@Mike-yx1eeno... Y'all are taking things that rely on perspective and tryna make them concrete. When someone has more rings than Jordan, will they be the goat???
"Eddie Murphy" is the Greatest comedian of our time. It doesn't matter that "Michael Jordan" doesn't play anymore, he's still considered arguably the GOAT. I personally don't think one person will ever be the GOAT of anything because they're all on the shoulders of Giants. Couldn't be an "Eddie" had their not been a "Richard Pryor" and "Dick Gregory" before him. And "Redd Foxx" before him. But body of work ain't got sh:;!! to do with it. It's IMPACT, these young cats have more technology and more standup specials, but are Still trying to measure up to "Delirious" and "Raw" He is the Greatest comedian of our time, PERIOD ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Nah, Saying Eddie Murphy is the GOAT of stand up is like saying Biggie is GOAT of Hip Hop, you can't be the greatest if you just got 2 bodies of work. Jay Z, Nas, Eminem have put in too much work over years and years for u to be greater than them. Same with Chappelle, Gervais, Chris Rock, Louis CK in stand up.
Eddie became a super star fast. It propelled him out the clubs. To that extent Katt Williams is correct. You can’t be the goat stand up if there isn’t a lot of stand up to see. Pryor has albums full of content, Carlin also, and most of our fav stand ups have bodies of work to judge. Eddie is held to a higher regard becuase he changed what stand ups earned at the time …he defined stardom…he took comedians to the top.
@@presidave1931 if Eddie Murphy had died young. Then we’d be having a different conversation. Same way if Tupac and biggie lived we’d be having a different conversation.
Responding to Presi Dave, Pac would still be top 10 due to his body of work. I do agree with you on Biggie. I still consider them both great but, your point is valid in my opinion.
True. I can remember when I was young and my uncle had the Eddy Murphy: Raw special on and I liked it. But then a lot of years later it was Katt Williams vs. Steve Harvey because they both were doing a show in my city at the same time. And they both were my favorite comedians because they stayed consistent with stand up.
Of course Eddie is not the best NOW. Nobody is saying that. But his body of work is legendary. From SNL to stand up he owned the 80’s. And what’s lesss talked about is his achievements in Cinema. He’s been a part of some of the best comedies throughout the 80’s 90’s and even 00’. He moved on from stand up and made even more acting. It’s called progression. Nobody wants to be on the road doing the comedy circuit forever. Most comedians dream is to use comedy as a vessel into acting and movie roles. Nobody has it done that better than Eddie Murphy.
DL's response is one the most asinine things I've ever heard. "If you don't do it anymore, then you're not that or the greatest" Then, by this standard, is MJ not the greatest basketball player, Tom Brady not the greatest quarterback or football player, Tiger not the greatest golf player, Serena not the greatest female tennis player? STFU! If we're talking about legacy, his comments are void and moot. If you're talking about being compared based on current body of work or current stand-ups, then it's not fair to place him in this conversation to be rated because he doesn't do this anymore. However, let's be clear, while I'm not an Eddie Murphy fan, let him come back and do a stand up routine. He will fuk all of them up and they know it. This shit is coming off as jealousy and an axe to grind.
This statement contradicts itself. GOAT means the Greatest Of ALL TIME not the Greatest of My Generation. There can be a million greatest of my generation but only one Greatest Of All Time which can also be called Greatest Of All Generations
@@abbeyadeyemi6866 Why would I call someone like Pryor for example, the Goat when I didn't see him growing up. Let me turn my statement around since you over analyzed it. For my generation, I consider Eddie the Goat. Using the word Goat is more subjective than you think.
@@hobb125 You have a slight point but you're still saying it wrong. The point you make that is correct is that when most people label someone the GOAT their position usually has a generational bias. For instance in Football (Soccer) people that grew up in the 60s and 70s would generally say Pele is the GOAT, 80s would say Maradona is the GOAT and nowadays the vote is generally divided between Messi and Christiano Ronaldo (I have to be specific because there is another Ronaldo). Anyway, each generation usually has who they consider the GOAT and they will argue with you to hell and back that their choice is better than the choices from different generations. What you are saying is slightly different but like I said you're saying it wrong. You are saying you can't say anyone is the GOAT because you didn't witness the choices from the generations before you, you can only say someone is the Greatest Of Your Generation. This is quite an admirable position to have because truly if you weren't there it might be difficult to understand the impact a choice from an older generation had for them to be considered by that generation as the GOAT. But please believe me it is inherently wrong to say the GOAT of my generation. You either consider someone the GOAT or you don't irrespective of generation. A better way to say what you're trying to say is so and so is the GOAT in my opinion based on my generational bias. Sorry the reply is so long
Eddie Murphy's 'Delirious' & 'Raw' are bigger & better than any two concert stand-ups put in movie theaters than few to no other comedians since. Martin Lawrence & Kevin Hart tried it but couldn't come close to Murphy's two blockbusters.
@@tenzinpassang4812 I agree that Chris Rock's specials are closer to Murphy's films. The only difference is they weren't in movie theaters like Lawrence's & Hart's concerts.
They’re having two different conversations. Eddie Murphy can be your favorite comedian. That doesn’t mean that you think he is the best comedian currently. I agree that in order to be the best at something currently you need to be doing it correctly. But again you can think someone is your favorite at something without also thinking that they are currently the best.
Once a person has reached an iconic level, they don't have to do anything more. Eddie Murphy will ALWAYS be seen as one of the greatest comedians ever. Just like a former president is still referred to as "President."
In principle I disagree with DL from a sports analogy: if someone was to say "Tom Brady is the Greatest QB ever", until someone exceeds his accomplishments that holds True even if he's not "Currently" the Greatest, so why wouldn't that apply in other professions?
I disagree with the shark and bird example. A bird is still a bird whether it can fly or not it just lost his ability to do so by whatever means it doesn't change the fact that it's still a bird, just like a shark might not be able to swim for whatever reason it's still a shark. They have to learn to adapt in different ways in order to survive in their environment.
I understand what DL is saying to an extent, but I don't agree. I agree with with your statement on Arnold. Is MJ the GOAT, even though he doesn't play anymore in the NBA? Basing it solely off if 'he still plays' wouldn't fit, but his body of work, impact and longevity.
It's all a matter of perspectives and judgement. If Eddie made you laugh out loud and spoke on things you agree with, then you're likely to call him your fav and/or GOAT. There's no standard on individual taste, no matter what time frame
Eddie was a stand up comedian long before he became an actor he didn't just decide to do 2 stand up specials for nothing Eddie Murphys place in comedy is set Katt can't ever touch him no matter what BS he try's to spin it to make himself sound good.
He is and always will be simply because he was apart of an Era that still see him as such! He is one of the Original comedians. That comedy open doors for him
DL Hughley's point is well taken and he gives sound reasoning for his opinion. I agree about selecting a Doctor analogy. I'm not calling one who hasn't practiced in 25 years. However, comedy is different based on the eyes of the beholder and while Eddie Murphy is phenomenal, Chris Rock gives me GOAT. Peace.
Biggie did two albums in his lifetime before he died, and he is labeled as one of the greatest rappers of all time. So Eddie Murphy not doing stand up since the 80s does not take away being called the greatest comedian of all time.
No one is denying Eddie's impact on comedy! He hasn't done standup in over 30 years! Are you telling me, he's your favorite standup comedian right now? When Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock & Patrice O'neal existed & were taking standup comedy even further than Eddie Murphy was in the 80s!
Exactly. I think we are talking two different conversations. One who is the greatest at the moment. And the other who is the Goat or greatest of all times. If we're talking about the latter then you do not have to be relevant in the present to be considered the Goat. The Goat conversation involves *influence* and *quality* not quantity. Lol. Eddie had both.
i think eddie is the funniest person ever period and with probably the greatest stand-up ever but i don't think u can call him the goat of stand up cuz of not having the lengthy body of work like a chappelle , rock , or even kevin hart but eddie is still eddie A GOD
Mr. Eddie Murphy has acted in my favorite movies of all time. He's my favorite actor. Always delivers! He's my favorite comedian. Mr. Richard Pryor is the best standup comedian of all time. Ask any comedian, and he hasn't done stand up comedy in how many years? So, I think you can say someone is the best at something all-time even if they're not currently doing it until or if someone comes along better... But Mr. DL Hughley makes a great point about "currently" being the best of something ... So, don't interpret what I am saying as disagreeing with Mr. DL Hughley. Mr. Eddie Murphy and Mr. Richard Pryor are the GOATS!
Eddie is the 🐐 of comedy. Numbers don't lie. Nutty professor, he played 6 people and a few in coming to America. All funny not to mention wrote them. Only comedian I know who turned a gangster movie into a comedy, yes I'm talking about Harlem nights... I can go on and on about his work. He is on a whole other playing field then other comedians
Richard Pryor is the GOAT. He set the bar of how to tell jokes his expressions and story telling made a way for Murphy and the rest to be who tbey are today Pryor concerts were phenominal and when he couldnt perform on Tv bcos of sensorship his records were te greatest Pryor stands alone at the top myrphy even says listening to pryor influenced him and many others
FACTS...can't believe DL even fell for this. he just didn't want to disagree with Kat or maybe he really feels that way. Either way it's simply not true what he and Kat said. You don't have to be practicing or active to be considered a GOAT. Sports is the prime example. Tom Brady will be considered the GOAT for a long time after he's done playing. Up until his time most would say Joe Montana who hadn't played in hell 30yrs or more.
@@jasontaylor2237 Eddie You are so right Eddie Murphy has reached the top and has been there for decades he’s been in movie and producing movies also TV shows .he has the freedom to do whatever he want he don’t have to prove nothing to nobody he’s already put the work in😌. These other comedians have to stay on the road keep the ggrindgoing trying to reach that level of Eddie Murphy Dave Chapelle Steve Harvey Chris rock
Richard Pryor is the greatest stand-up comedian that ever took the stage. Eddie Murphy really is not that damn funny he's a comic to tell jokes. That people laugh to but comedian wise a funny man is Richard Pryor and none been better since
Well Micheal Jordan is the Goat in Basketball and he hasn't played for almost 20 years and Madonna 80s career was her best career but still considered the best female pop star of all time ,Katt has his opinion but a mind is still a terrible thing to waste
MJ is the goat because of what? The BASKETBALL COURT. Not his endorsements, movies, shoes! Nobody could F with him on the court! I love Eddie but Chappelle, Chris Rock, Katt are funnier on the STAGE than he was/is, and it's purely what they do on stage!
Eddie is a comedy goat , you cant erase , boomerang , trading places and coming 2 america and his list of movie classics along with sat night live skits and his classic stand up material , he doesnt need to prove himself at this point his legacy is safe , comedians are similar musicians they cool off if they are around long enough, eddie will never be as hot he was between 88' - 92 unless he decides he wants to be the guy again, Katt is great but some things are better left unsaid , he still isnt eddie murphy and hes 20 years in or more from friday after next wich is most peoples exposure to him , nationally
I have the upmost respect for DL. I've been a huge fan of his since the premier of Comic View in '92. He was brilliant and the primary reason me and my family watched the show. So I mean no disrespect to him. I even met him once in Kansas City. He couldn't have been any nicer. Although you are what you are now may be true that doesn't mean one can't still be considered the best to ever do it years after they stop. Michael Jordan may be what he is now, but he's still arguably the best to ever play the game of basketball even 25 years later. Eddie may not be the greatest of all time, but despite his lack of multiple specials his minimal content is some of the best ever created. Personally I have yet to see any comedy special as funny as RAW. Patrice O'neal was close, but joke for joke RAW stands alone. Just saying.
Agree with every single word you typed. Fuk wit DL, but by his logic, MJ(both of em) could never be considered the best in their field cuz they no longer do it. That's just asinine to me.
Eddie Murphy is the GOAT, he brought all the great Blk comedians together in Harlem Nights. He is so skilled, and he is the 1 that popularized comedians doing multiple roles in their own show. Martin didn’t do it until he did it, Tyler perry, Chapelle, none of them did it until he did it. He was a killer on Saturday night live. I don’t care what anyone says. EDDIE is the GOAT. Coming to America was 1 of the funniest movies I have ever seen. That miss blk awareness pageant scene still makes me laugh. It’s always .the ppl that are not as good that want to criticize, Hughley is not even as funny as Harvey or Cedrick.
So by this logic no one could be the Goat of anything unless it’s been done presently. For example Magic can’t be the Greatest point guard of all time since he hasn’t played in over 25 years. Idk man I don’t really agree with this.
Right. But sports is different cause you could only do it really good in your 20 s and 30s but comedy you could be older and still amazing. So different in some ways.
Eddie Murphy is a hell of a performer and has great stage presence but there are way funnier stand ups out there. Eddie found his calling in movies, even if 80% of them are trash. The good ones are good enough to be his legacy.
Eddies movies could of been better. He was young and just doing whatever in front of him. He has some bad ones but his classics make u forget them. All the Shrek movies, coming to America. Nutty professor. Boomerang. Beverly hills cops. Trading places dream girls 48 hours
Eddie Murphy is a legend and he paved the way for comedians to do their thing right now so if he never does stand up again it doesn't matter to me. And on a side note I have a you tube channel type in Russell Mills May 22, 2017.
So the Pac/Biggie conversation is irrelevant, going by Hughley's logic. What about actors? I consider Robert Deniro/Al Pacino to be up there as well, but according to Hughley, they need to be putting out Goodfellas level of movies TODAY to stay in those GOAT talks. How about architecture? I consider Frank Lloyd Wright to be one of the absolute best architects, but because he's not able to put things in the modern-day, (he's dead, after all) those talks suddenly vanish? I genuinely hate conversations like this because, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. These are all opinions, and everything is subjective. These aren't helpful to anyone, and are about as useful as "who would win in a fight? batman or superman?". For the record, Eddie Murphy may not be the absolute best, but he's in the top 5, without a doubt. He has some absolute classic sets and is shown love by everyone, all the time. That should be enough.
Didn’t you kinda argue against yourself you mentioned a dead architect but PAC and Biggie are dead they can’t put out music. His argument was if you completely stop actors and artists still put out work it’s just not as good as before. There’s some exceptions but I mostly agree with that argument.
@@itinavarait That was my point and something Hughley seemed to hint at: The only way to maintain GOAT status from a _historicial_ point of view is to create something amazing and die soon after. That seems almost comically unfair.
@@Kirbystare1992 That was my exact point. Biggie and PAC can't defend their respective titles because they aren't alive. I think the concept of having to maintain GOAT status by putting out masterclass levels of work until the day you die is absolutely ridiculous. Because the question will inevitably turn to not just the quality of the work, but the _quantity_ as well. There will always be detractors who think that if your first album is successful, that it still could be considered a "fluke". If you were to jump to other genres of music, I'd argue that System of A Down is one of, if not the greatest modern day "rock/metal" band, even though they don't have a laundry list of a discography. Kevin Hart seems to put out a speciial every week and he's nowhere near as talented as Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryer or George Carlin. The argument over "whose the best?" just needs to die. Everyone should gun for number one, but expecting any one person or entity to give out some sort of an official list or award is just a waste of time. Even then, There are people who don't agree that an award can act as a suitable symbol of accomplishment. Meryl Streep has won more awards than almost anyone else, yet (generally speaking) She's not the first to come to mind when speaking about GOAT actors. Long story short: GOAT talks are trivial water-cooler conversations that act as clickbait and are often meant to provoke a reaction to gain views. Nothing more, nothning less.
So, I'm a little confused on this one. There are many that think that certain basketball players are the best ever but they don't play basketball anymore? So I don't know if you can say Eddie is not the GOAT. I would probably say Richard Pryor is in all honesty.
Listen to the last part of Katt statement “body of work” so Eddie can be your favorite comedian cause he once was a comedian however what Katt is saying is he can’t be the GOAT because he doesn’t have the body of work to back up that title. MJ hasn’t played in forever but his resume backs up his argument for greatest ever. Eddie blew up so fast that his run doing comedy was short lived because he became a mega movie star.
I consider Eddie one of the goats of comedy because he was able to get his comedy idols together in movies and preform with them.and each and everyone of them got there shine in Harlem nights.
Eddie Murphy is a pioneer, and a goat just not my goat, I watch his stand ups… I couldn’t relate to half that stuff,, but Red Foxx jokes have me crying,,, numbers don’t mean your the best, just means he the most exposed
@@kenarleslyles2501 What I mean is that it can't be GOAT of a generation. The AT stands for All Time, so it's Greatest Of All Generations. However, who most people consider the GOAT is heavily influenced by the generation they are from.
Eddie said that about himself. He can't go back on the road without putting in the work on the local level first. Thing about Eddie is when he was performing there was no one else at his level at that time to compare him too. He's definitely on my list of top 5 comics ever and that's including Pryor, Flip Wilson, Carlin and Chappelle.
I consider Chris Rock the comedy goat. From New Jack City in the late 80’s, to his Ego World Tour this year. Dude has been consistently funny through the years. Legendary standups, solid movies, he hosted the Oscars, the whole shit. Even Chappelle disappeared for years. Rock kept working. Without any major stain on his resume. CR is the goat.
I didn’t like CR when I was younger but as I grew a lil older I started to appreciate his content and contributions more. This guy has been around for a while and he even put Nia Long in her place 🤣 No sex in the champagne room 🎶
Chris rock is way better than Kevin hart... but Eddie the goat.. Chris rock Jim Carrey robin Williams. Wayans brothers were all great...but Eddie is Eddie
There comes a time when a person reaches a certain level in their career when they should chill and allow others to shine. I think Eddie is such a person. He doesn't need to be hooping and hollering to prove his worth. We from his Era know who he is and if he decides he wants to get back out there, his loyal fans including myself will be there. Long live Eddie Murphy!!!
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So perfectly said!
You're missing the point. It's about he can't be your favorite comedian if he hasn't done it in 30 years. Newsflash...DL, Katt, and Chapelle don't HAVE TO do this comedy shit. There's nothing left to prove. Period
Why is there a discussion? Maybe we should stop using the "N" word; then there should be a discussion. Does it matter?😟
Like....OMG...Best comment I've come cross in 2022 thus far.
Eddie created a lane for Katt and DL. He is definitely ONE of the greatest.
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B.s Richard Pryor Bill Cosby open the doors for Eddie Murphy but Eddie Murphy dogged Bill Cosby Eddie Murphy trash💯💯💯🚮💫
Katt Williams told the TRUTH💯💯🤷
Thank you. I was going to say the samething.
@@blacqdiamond6670 “Eddie Murphy trash”? I’m yet to see a stand up act that can fuck with Delirious. Most don’t even compare to RAW. He’s one of the GOATS. DL Hughley is talking shit and can suck a dick. If Notorious BIG was still alive but not rapping he’d still be considered the fucking GOAT. Eminem is considered one of the GOATS by many and still would be long after he has made his last song and still lives, so that analogy of a bird not being a bird if it doesn’t fly anymore or a shark not being a shark if it doesn’t swim does not really work when discussing artists. Give Eddie his dues. He’s still a GOAT. Every one of the SNL legends that live will tell you that, with conviction.
I'm a believer if a person reaches a certain level of greatness they no longer have anything to prove in terms of output they have cemented there legacy and eddie is one of them
agree but they aint what they was and IS is a powerful thing
Two comedy specials. Nah he ain’t even touching Richard Pryor. To me the GOAT is Chappelle. Second place is Pryor and third place is George Carlin.
DL's response is one the most asinine things I've ever heard. "If you don't do it anymore, then you're not that or the greatest" Then, by this standard, is MJ not the greatest basketball player, Tom Brady not the greatest quarterback or football player, Tiger not the greatest golf player, Serena not the greatest female tennis player? STFU! If we're talking about legacy, his comments are void and moot. If you're talking about being compared based on current body of work or current stand-ups, then it's not fair to place him in this conversation to be rated because he doesn't do this anymore. However, let's be clear, while I'm not an Eddie Murphy fan, let him come back and do a stand up routine. He will fuk all of them up and they know it. This shit is coming off as jealousy and an axe to grind.
@@Wordalways of course he currently is not. he was though when he played.
@@warrenpeas now you’re just being dumb. I had never even heard of Katt Williams before 2023. There are names you say that signifies greatness. It's like you’re saying Ali wasn’t a great boxer. MJ paved the road for basketball players. Perfect example is Tony Hawk. IDK any other skateboarder, but I sure as heck have heard of him. Katt sounds like an angry little man.
Eddie is the ultimate entertainer. Music, stand up, film. And most his roles are legendary
😂😂
That’s probably a better word for him than greatest comedian.
He never has been or will be the best stand up comedian, was he good yes was he great yes, the GOAT no.
Not music he only had one song party all the time
All his movies suck
When it comes to being the "GOAT" of anything, this argument being made by Katt and DL about actively practicing the craft is irrelevant. The GOAT conversation is about who did what while they were active. You can't penalize someone for not still being active 30 years later, unless you're using it as a deciding factor to pick someone over him who HAS been active for 40+ years. It's like saying Jordan isn't the GOAT because he's not still in the NBA it makes no sense.
Great point. Michael Jordan is said to be the GOAT but been retired for some years.
Eddie didn't do it long enough. But he's def the best comedic actor of all time
Eddie has 2 classic stand ups..Micheal jordan has 6 rings & has been in the league for over a decade. I think what D.L was stating went over your head
@@pilldabest You're making a different argument so it appears what I said went over your head. DL is saying you're not what you don't do anymore. He asked would you want a lawyer that doesn't practice law anymore defending you on a big case? That scenario and analogy is irrelevant because the GOAT debate is about what they did during their reign. It compares people from different eras. Greatest "OF ALL TIME". Whether or not they're active at the time of the discussion holds no weight. If you want to make a separate argument that only 2 stand-up specials can't make you the GOAT that's fine but that's not what DL or Katt said. And a counter to that alternate argument is "Comedy" isn't just stand-up, and Eddie one of the few comedians to dominate stand-up, TV, and movies. I'm not even saying Eddie IS the GOAT, but just that it seems people don't know how the GOAT conversation actually works.
Agreed, and I say again, it's not just about body of work. These young cats have (10) times more doors open for them. And a zillion times more technology, and yes probably more specials. But they're STILL trying to measure up to "Delirious' and "Raw"
It's not, "Body Of Work"
It's "IMPACT"
"Eddie Murphy" is definitely the Greatest of our time ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Eddie Murphy started as a comedian and then opened up a new lane for comedians by starring in movies and excelling in those roles. He might not be the 🐐, but he’s one of the goats of comedy. Without him starring in movies like “Trading Places”, and “Beverly Hills Cop”, you don’t have people like Kevin Hart, and so forth getting the chances today to star in movies.
True but Richard Pryor started that trend first. And Eddie ain't the GOAT of standup.
@@BennyNegroFromQueens I was about to say the same thing
Rich Prior preceded him.
Red fox ..Pryor paved the way for Eddie to do movies
Ririchard Pryor done all that before Eddie Murphy dude. Made it possibly for the likes of Murphy. Richard Pryor is also the goat of goats. Chappelle is number 2. Bernie max 3. Chris rock 4.
"I'm not what I was, I'm what I am"
That's a powerful statement 🤧
No its not.
What DL is now is a middling comic who will never have 1/100th of the success or talent that Eddie Murphy has. What he was? .... see above. Same goes for Katt Williams but more so. Haters gonna always hate. DL is a socially aware and thoughtful dude. Not in the same league as Eddie though when it comes to talent. Just because something is said to sound profound and meaningful doesn't mean it's not stupid, jealous and self serving when held in context to the topic.
@@matteowatteo1296 exactly
@@matteowatteo1296 Hmmm ok 😒
@@matteowatteo1296 two comedy specials. Eddie Murphy isn’t the greatest. Richard Pryor, Chappelle, Rock and Katt are funnier to me
Eddie's legacy is set in stone. The ultimate bench mark for a stand up is there specials. You can make an argument Raw and Delirious are the two best stand up specials of all time. And Eddie did those specials in his early to mid 20's. There is no other stand up that can say that. What Eddie did at that age dwarfs what 99 percent of the comedians in any era including Katt have done.
Say know mo
they arent though iconic not best though
What you're saying here doesn't make sense in the context of the video. The GOAT consideration is the following: "Is this person the best person to have ever done thing X." By what age such and such a person accomplished something doesn't matter. It may be impressive, but it doesn't resolve the GOAT question.
@@artistryartistry7239 thank you
@@artistryartistry7239 exactly, to this day Live on Sunset Strip is the greatest stand up i've seen and that was '82
"I disagree with having to continue doing something until you expire to be considered THE GOAT. There was a era in Hollywood where they promoted one of us at a time but now you see many doing what they do in varying ways. In my view what one does professionally or as a hobby doesn't define who one is or has to be and we define ourselves period"
~Gregory D. Anderson, Jr.
Do you think this is why rappers like Tupac and Biggie are known as GOATS, because they expired at the peak of their careers?
@@Fowler0526 they aint GOATS tho.
Tupac was and is
@@ms.fabolusmorgan4279 nah
@@Fowler0526 They are known and Treasured as such cause of the influence they had on an Era off hip hop /rap while in their prime.
Eddie Murphy does impressions not many can when you think about it. He’s definitely rare.
Jamie Foxx
@@love8055 right but wo Eddie there would be no Jamie Foxx
@@k.e.5886 and without Richard Pryor there’s no Eddie Murphy, and so on and so forth
@@amostlyreasonableguy we were talking about impressions specifically though
Nice way of saying "I agree with Katt"
Basically
Lol exactly
True
Hell, DL Hughley, whom I thought was funny as hell. Then I saw some footage of him being racist!! He lost this fan!! I always hoped he was just a bad day... He comes to Alabama look me up and bring me to your comedy show!!
Yup...
I disagree with him, though: if one was the best for 10 yrs or over a long period of time or a contender for the best, he or she does not become any less excellent because they retire. That would be like saying Simone Biles has to keep doing gymnastics in order to be considered the best or a contender for that status. This is the age of video, and he did it long enough (didn't just jump in and jump out for a few months or years). The jokes do hold up. Give Eddie his due. He started comedy as a child like Dave Chappell. He was successful right away but kept working. Made enough $ to move on and explore/excel at the things that resonated with him as a man (acting and music...travel and family, and whatever else he's been up to all this time since leaving stand-up).
Eddie might not be the stand up GOAT, but he's one of the best comedians of all time!
Agreed
It's katt bruh
Katt is good but no one is like Eddie.
Eddie gave Dave Chapelle his chance.
Eddie said everything katt can say everything he would like times have change and if he could he can't do it like eddie
Katt is always trying to down somebody. Keep doing you. Nobody has said anything about him. This is how Katt stays relevant
@@mikes4593 I don't see that from Katt. I see him as more of a political comedian because of the topics he talks about. He tries to open up people's eyes and minds to the situations going on in the world today while making it hilarious at the same time. Dave Chapelle is the master of his craft at this point. No one has been more consistent at it. Yet, when he left that 50mil on the table, everyone was talking bad about him saying he was a crackhead and went to Africa and had a nervous breakdown. 😓 Now look at him, the highest paid comedian in the world and he isn't looking back.
Eddie did SNL and movies as well and I think that collection of work is what ppl talk about not just his stand up!
He's also on everybody's Mount Rushmore
Nooo
People like Eddie & Schwarzenegger reached the pinnacle of their careers back then and have left behind an incredible body of work. They don’t have to keep going. Chapelle & Rock are great but they didn’t have box office movie power the way Eddie did.
DL's response is one the most asinine things I've ever heard. "If you don't do it anymore, then you're not that or the greatest" Then, by this standard, is MJ not the greatest basketball player, Tom Brady not the greatest quarterback or football player, Tiger not the greatest golf player, Serena not the greatest female tennis player? STFU! If we're talking about legacy, his comments are void and moot. If you're talking about being compared based on current body of work or current stand-ups, then it's not fair to place him in this conversation to be rated because he doesn't do this anymore. However, let's be clear, while I'm not an Eddie Murphy fan, let him come back and do a stand up routine. He will fuk all of them up and they know it. This shit is coming off as jealousy and an axe to grind.
Eddie is a legend ,respect to him,been watching him since the 80s ❤🎉
"I am not what I was. I am what I am."
Nice one DL.
Well said.
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It kindof fit into that Ears guy interview about Alpo. Alpo was so disrespectful and cocky because of what he was. But he not that anymore and some new wild dumb mf took him out
Flat out wrong…your past influences your present and greatly determines your future….Eddie Murphy laid a great foundation in his past to enjoy the success he has now…opening the door for other comedians such as Kat and DL to talk hot garbage trying to sound deep
@@hrrspaul4 I agree. But i think there should be a balance. I don't think many today actually see Eddie as a comedian. He's an actor first and foremost.
And yes, 2 home runs (his specials) is impressive but it's absurd to view him even as top 100 compared to comedians that have worked for literally decades with many great specials (my hot take). And we also forget comedians that routinely sold out coloseums filled with 70,000 people racking in millions and millions of dollars. That in itself is incredible.
I'd say he's the greatest COMEDIC ACTOR of all time due to him drawing BILLIONS of dollars from globally whether great or terrible.
I love this DL - I became a fan of his late, but love where he is right now. I can't wait to see him perform on the 26th of March!!! I love that he thinks, and ensures that his comments and answers add value. I love intelligent comics.
Same. I didn't like D.L when he came out, not even on the Kings of Comedy. I began liking him when his comedy style changed with more intellectual content. 👏
he's been this way. he aint changed
DL's best stand up show is Going Home. Definitely his best work in my opinion!
@@HenryMPittman Definitely, I feel he is more comfortable with being himself, and it is so refreshing.
D.L is making a great point. I love his perspective on why he does stand up. Katt can be perceived as a hater but it took Hugley to paraphrase it. Eddie is a pioneer and trailblazer.
Nah, so Tom Brady isn't the Goat because he retired?
and MJ is not the goat bc he doesn't ball anymore?
@@Mike-yx1eeno... Y'all are taking things that rely on perspective and tryna make them concrete. When someone has more rings than Jordan, will they be the goat???
It's no point the answer in your soul. Katt a little girl
I fuk wit DL. His point was asinine. So Michael Jackson isn't one of , if not, the greatest according to DL. That's just dumb.
"Eddie Murphy" is the Greatest comedian of our time. It doesn't matter that "Michael Jordan" doesn't play anymore, he's still considered arguably the GOAT. I personally don't think one person will ever be the GOAT of anything because they're all on the shoulders of Giants. Couldn't be an "Eddie" had their not been a "Richard Pryor" and "Dick Gregory" before him. And "Redd Foxx" before him. But body of work ain't got sh:;!! to do with it. It's IMPACT, these young cats have more technology and more standup specials, but are Still trying to measure up to "Delirious" and "Raw"
He is the Greatest comedian of our time, PERIOD ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Nah, Saying Eddie Murphy is the GOAT of stand up is like saying Biggie is GOAT of Hip Hop, you can't be the greatest if you just got 2 bodies of work. Jay Z, Nas, Eminem have put in too much work over years and years for u to be greater than them. Same with Chappelle, Gervais, Chris Rock, Louis CK in stand up.
PERIOD
Yeah Dave chappelle is better
No he's NOT!
FACTS!
Everytime I listen to this guy he just makes good points
For Eddy to be considered the greatest or one of the greatest on the back of 2 specials shows how Bloody good they were .
Eddie became a super star fast. It propelled him out the clubs. To that extent Katt Williams is correct. You can’t be the goat stand up if there isn’t a lot of stand up to see. Pryor has albums full of content, Carlin also, and most of our fav stand ups have bodies of work to judge. Eddie is held to a higher regard becuase he changed what stand ups earned at the time …he defined stardom…he took comedians to the top.
Not saying your logic is flawed, but by this standard only Pac and Biggie are not suppose to be top10 rappers DOA.
@@presidave1931 if Eddie Murphy had died young. Then we’d be having a different conversation. Same way if Tupac and biggie lived we’d be having a different conversation.
Responding to Presi Dave, Pac would still be top 10 due to his body of work. I do agree with you on Biggie. I still consider them both great but, your point is valid in my opinion.
True. I can remember when I was young and my uncle had the Eddy Murphy: Raw special on and I liked it. But then a lot of years later it was Katt Williams vs. Steve Harvey because they both were doing a show in my city at the same time. And they both were my favorite comedians because they stayed consistent with stand up.
It's not that serious,,we all play games it's was one of them,, clarification is needed it definitely is a mis-understanding,,but let's play that game
I personally veiwed Eddy Murphy more as an actor/entertainer than stand up comedian lol
Of course Eddie is not the best NOW. Nobody is saying that. But his body of work is legendary. From SNL to stand up he owned the 80’s. And what’s lesss talked about is his achievements in Cinema. He’s been a part of some of the best comedies throughout the 80’s 90’s and even 00’. He moved on from stand up and made even more acting. It’s called progression. Nobody wants to be on the road doing the comedy circuit forever. Most comedians dream is to use comedy as a vessel into acting and movie roles. Nobody has it done that better than Eddie Murphy.
DL's response is one the most asinine things I've ever heard. "If you don't do it anymore, then you're not that or the greatest" Then, by this standard, is MJ not the greatest basketball player, Tom Brady not the greatest quarterback or football player, Tiger not the greatest golf player, Serena not the greatest female tennis player? STFU! If we're talking about legacy, his comments are void and moot. If you're talking about being compared based on current body of work or current stand-ups, then it's not fair to place him in this conversation to be rated because he doesn't do this anymore. However, let's be clear, while I'm not an Eddie Murphy fan, let him come back and do a stand up routine. He will fuk all of them up and they know it. This shit is coming off as jealousy and an axe to grind.
@@Wordalways BINGO... Well said!!!
DL lookin’ like the aliens on that Battleship movie….needs a whole mustache
The reason we consider Eddie to be the goat is because in essence he's an entertainer. So his stand-ups were memorable.
Same can be said for Dave Chappell and Bernie Mac. Also Katt Williams. I don’t think theres one “goat”.
Eddie Murphy the goat because he just is.
He never disappoint his fans with great acting keep up the good work
Hahaha
Yeah but I liked his brother Charlie Murphy better
👏👏 exactly. Charlie was funny and a great writer but the stand up 🤷🏾♂️
What makes you a legend is the quality of the body of work not the quantity. Eddie is the Goat of my generation.
This statement contradicts itself. GOAT means the Greatest Of ALL TIME not the Greatest of My Generation. There can be a million greatest of my generation but only one Greatest Of All Time which can also be called Greatest Of All Generations
@@abbeyadeyemi6866 Why would I call someone like Pryor for example, the Goat when I didn't see him growing up. Let me turn my statement around since you over analyzed it. For my generation, I consider Eddie the Goat. Using the word Goat is more subjective than you think.
@@hobb125 You have a slight point but you're still saying it wrong. The point you make that is correct is that when most people label someone the GOAT their position usually has a generational bias. For instance in Football (Soccer) people that grew up in the 60s and 70s would generally say Pele is the GOAT, 80s would say Maradona is the GOAT and nowadays the vote is generally divided between Messi and Christiano Ronaldo (I have to be specific because there is another Ronaldo). Anyway, each generation usually has who they consider the GOAT and they will argue with you to hell and back that their choice is better than the choices from different generations. What you are saying is slightly different but like I said you're saying it wrong. You are saying you can't say anyone is the GOAT because you didn't witness the choices from the generations before you, you can only say someone is the Greatest Of Your Generation. This is quite an admirable position to have because truly if you weren't there it might be difficult to understand the impact a choice from an older generation had for them to be considered by that generation as the GOAT. But please believe me it is inherently wrong to say the GOAT of my generation. You either consider someone the GOAT or you don't irrespective of generation. A better way to say what you're trying to say is so and so is the GOAT in my opinion based on my generational bias. Sorry the reply is so long
You get better and consistent when you continue to hone your skills. I agree with DL! 👍🏾
"REMEMBER NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE'S UNCLE""
LOLOL
Profound insight from DL love his takes at times.
Eddie can do a stand up show tomorrow! And that show would be a smash! Straight up!
Eddie Murphy's 'Delirious' & 'Raw' are bigger & better than any two concert stand-ups put in movie theaters than few to no other comedians since. Martin Lawrence & Kevin Hart tried it but couldn't come close to Murphy's two blockbusters.
i would say Chris Rock's Bring the Pain and Bigger & Blacker might rival that but i'm just glad we have these specials so, i'm not arguing.
@@tenzinpassang4812 I agree that Chris Rock's specials are closer to Murphy's films. The only difference is they weren't in movie theaters like Lawrence's & Hart's concerts.
Love the Napoleon Dynamite reference 😂
“You are what you half to do what makes you what you am” -DL Hughley
They’re having two different conversations. Eddie Murphy can be your favorite comedian. That doesn’t mean that you think he is the best comedian currently. I agree that in order to be the best at something currently you need to be doing it correctly. But again you can think someone is your favorite at something without also thinking that they are currently the best.
Once a person has reached an iconic level, they don't have to do anything more. Eddie Murphy will ALWAYS be seen as one of the greatest comedians ever. Just like a former president is still referred to as "President."
Your Craft is who you are. Your gift. DL is a bright guy.
"is" is a powerful word. I am not what I was, I am what I am.
In principle I disagree with DL from a sports analogy: if someone was to say "Tom Brady is the Greatest QB ever", until someone exceeds his accomplishments that holds True even if he's not "Currently" the Greatest, so why wouldn't that apply in other professions?
Not the same. “Past and presence “ MJ is the goat but in a game 7 right now. No nba team would want him playing @ all !
@@jasonkells6938 so in your opinion, your saying you can't be the greatest ever forever, correct?
@@jasonkells6938 WHY NOT
It ain’t the Greatest of NOW Time it’s the GREATEST OF ALL TIME!
Eddie is mostly know as a comedic ACTOR. But yes, Eddie and Richard have the best stand up specials ever
I love D.L's response ❤️🔥
Lmmfao a bird is still definitely a bird if it don’t fly same as a shark lmao
I disagree with the shark and bird example. A bird is still a bird whether it can fly or not it just lost his ability to do so by whatever means it doesn't change the fact that it's still a bird, just like a shark might not be able to swim for whatever reason it's still a shark. They have to learn to adapt in different ways in order to survive in their environment.
Yeah, I didn't get that analogy either.
I consider Arnold Schwarzenegger the greatest bodybuilder of all time still
I understand what DL is saying to an extent, but I don't agree. I agree with with your statement on Arnold. Is MJ the GOAT, even though he doesn't play anymore in the NBA? Basing it solely off if 'he still plays' wouldn't fit, but his body of work, impact and longevity.
It's all a matter of perspectives and judgement. If Eddie made you laugh out loud and spoke on things you agree with, then you're likely to call him your fav and/or GOAT. There's no standard on individual taste, no matter what time frame
Yo DL said some shit that's gonna stay wit me forever. I'm not what I was I am what I am. And that word "is" issa powerful thing.
DL always spits knowledge and keeps it 100 !!!!
He’s right. Eddie has done two stand ups. Ever. He prepared for them for a long time. He’s not a standup comic really. He’s an actor
Yep because those two standup films are the only two times eddie murphy did standup. Good job
But the title says he’s not the GOAT.
Eddie was a stand up comedian long before he became an actor he didn't just decide to do 2 stand up specials for nothing Eddie Murphys place in comedy is set Katt can't ever touch him no matter what BS he try's to spin it to make himself sound good.
Eddie has been doing stand up since he was a TEENAGER he did just decide to do this. He was BORN for this. 👑👑👑👑👑
@@MIGGYME1 no but when you prepare for a special you do the same routine in buildup. those two acts are all he has
He is and always will be simply because he was apart of an Era that still see him as such! He is one of the Original comedians. That comedy open doors for him
Eddie Murphy is a comedic actor
DL is so good at his comedy. I saw him in Newark NJ years back and he had me in stitches.
Wow... Excellent commentary by DL!
Eddie is ONE of the greats of all time for sure, Richard Pryor trumps everyone (GOAT) because he paved the way for Eddie and many others.
Agreed, I was waiting for someone to make that comment...
Richard Pryor, George Carlin and Eddie Murphy will always be the GOATs of comedy, at least to me.
Richard Pryor opened the movie lane for modern day comedians in the 70s and still did stand-up comedy. I too consider him a 🐐.
@@candyhall367 And before Richard Pryor, there was Redd Foxx!!!
DL Hughley's point is well taken and he gives sound reasoning for his opinion. I agree about selecting a Doctor analogy. I'm not calling one who hasn't practiced in 25 years. However, comedy is different based on the eyes of the beholder and while Eddie Murphy is phenomenal, Chris Rock gives me GOAT. Peace.
“I’m not what I was, I am what I am…”
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Brilliant Answer
I don’t consider Eddie the greatest but he is a legend none the less…….
That sounds about right
I would because not too many comedians even come close
Biggie did two albums in his lifetime before he died, and he is labeled as one of the greatest rappers of all time. So Eddie Murphy not doing stand up since the 80s does not take away being called the greatest comedian of all time.
Well said! My point exactly.
No one is denying Eddie's impact on comedy! He hasn't done standup in over 30 years! Are you telling me, he's your favorite standup comedian right now? When Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock & Patrice O'neal existed & were taking standup comedy even further than Eddie Murphy was in the 80s!
I completely disagree. Just because Michael Jordan doesn't play basketball anymore doesn't mean he isn't the GOAT 😫
Exactly. I think we are talking two different conversations. One who is the greatest at the moment. And the other who is the Goat or greatest of all times. If we're talking about the latter then you do not have to be relevant in the present to be considered the Goat. The Goat conversation involves *influence* and *quality* not quantity. Lol. Eddie had both.
But the MJ argument would be if he only played two seasons and then stopped.
😂😂 not the same MJ retired...if he just won 2 rings then went to play baseball for the rest of his career...then yes.
i think eddie is the funniest person ever period and with probably the greatest stand-up ever but i don't think u can call him the goat of stand up cuz of not having the lengthy body of work like a chappelle , rock , or even kevin hart but eddie is still eddie A GOD
No the king has to pass on the throne
Well said Hughley
Imagine an archaeologist digging up shark teeth and being like "it's not a shark because it's no longer swimming". 😂
This nails it perfectly
Mr. Eddie Murphy has acted in my favorite movies of all time. He's my favorite actor. Always delivers! He's my favorite comedian.
Mr. Richard Pryor is the best standup comedian of all time. Ask any comedian, and he hasn't done stand up comedy in how many years?
So, I think you can say someone is the best at something all-time even if they're not currently doing it until or if someone comes along better...
But Mr. DL Hughley makes a great point about "currently" being the best of something ... So, don't interpret what I am saying as disagreeing with Mr. DL Hughley.
Mr. Eddie Murphy and Mr. Richard Pryor are the GOATS!
F.Y.I. Side note, Richard Pryor is deceased
Redd Foxx too is part of that list
Richard Pryor was the funniest, George Carlin the most intellectual, Dave Chappelle the most engaging.
And eddie is the goat
Eddie is the 🐐 of comedy. Numbers don't lie. Nutty professor, he played 6 people and a few in coming to America. All funny not to mention wrote them. Only comedian I know who turned a gangster movie into a comedy, yes I'm talking about Harlem nights... I can go on and on about his work. He is on a whole other playing field then other comedians
Well said DL you are what you continue to do!!!
Lol DL is funny he swear every time he talks he’s saying some deep shit
Richard Pryor is the GOAT. He set the bar of how to tell jokes his expressions and story telling made a way for Murphy and the rest to be who tbey are today Pryor concerts were phenominal and when he couldnt perform on Tv bcos of sensorship his records were te greatest Pryor stands alone at the top myrphy even says listening to pryor influenced him and many others
Eddie Murphy is the goat A living legend hands-down 🤩 he can still sellout Any arena right now no doubt 🤔he is the goat 👏👏👏point blank
FACTS...can't believe DL even fell for this. he just didn't want to disagree with Kat or maybe he really feels that way. Either way it's simply not true what he and Kat said. You don't have to be practicing or active to be considered a GOAT. Sports is the prime example. Tom Brady will be considered the GOAT for a long time after he's done playing. Up until his time most would say Joe Montana who hadn't played in hell 30yrs or more.
Yes but he probably would bomb that night you can’t take 30 years off of a craft
@@ajx5231
Most definitely I wouldn’t expect him to go out there cold 🥶 through preparation 💯☺️.he’s a master at the craft🤩
You said it bruh. No one can tell me Tyga is the greatest of all time just coz Pac ain't breathing.. COME ON!
@@jasontaylor2237 Eddie You are so right Eddie Murphy has reached the top and has been there for decades he’s been in movie and producing movies also TV shows .he has the freedom to do whatever he want he don’t have to prove nothing to nobody he’s already put the work in😌. These other comedians have to stay on the road keep the ggrindgoing trying to reach that level of Eddie Murphy Dave Chapelle Steve Harvey Chris rock
Richard Pryor is the greatest stand-up comedian that ever took the stage. Eddie Murphy really is not that damn funny he's a comic to tell jokes. That people laugh to but comedian wise a funny man is Richard Pryor and none been better since
Beautifully spoken
I needed to hear this today
Well Micheal Jordan is the Goat in Basketball and he hasn't played for almost 20 years and Madonna 80s career was her best career but still considered the best female pop star of all time ,Katt has his opinion but a mind is still a terrible thing to waste
MJ is the goat because of what? The BASKETBALL COURT. Not his endorsements, movies, shoes! Nobody could F with him on the court! I love Eddie but Chappelle, Chris Rock, Katt are funnier on the STAGE than he was/is, and it's purely what they do on stage!
Eddie is a comedy goat , you cant erase , boomerang , trading places and coming 2 america and his list of movie classics along with sat night live skits and his classic stand up material , he doesnt need to prove himself at this point his legacy is safe , comedians are similar musicians they cool off if they are around long enough, eddie will never be as hot he was between 88' - 92 unless he decides he wants to be the guy again, Katt is great but some things are better left unsaid , he still isnt eddie murphy and hes 20 years in or more from friday after next wich is most peoples exposure to him , nationally
I have the upmost respect for DL. I've been a huge fan of his since the premier of Comic View in '92. He was brilliant and the primary reason me and my family watched the show. So I mean no disrespect to him. I even met him once in Kansas City. He couldn't have been any nicer. Although you are what you are now may be true that doesn't mean one can't still be considered the best to ever do it years after they stop. Michael Jordan may be what he is now, but he's still arguably the best to ever play the game of basketball even 25 years later. Eddie may not be the greatest of all time, but despite his lack of multiple specials his minimal content is some of the best ever created. Personally I have yet to see any comedy special as funny as RAW. Patrice O'neal was close, but joke for joke RAW stands alone. Just saying.
Agree with every single word you typed. Fuk wit DL, but by his logic, MJ(both of em) could never be considered the best in their field cuz they no longer do it. That's just asinine to me.
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DL Looks like his name is Mudbone. A bird is still a bird if it doesn’t fly.
Eddie Murphy is the GOAT, he brought all the great Blk comedians together in Harlem Nights. He is so skilled, and he is the 1 that popularized comedians doing multiple roles in their own show. Martin didn’t do it until he did it, Tyler perry, Chapelle, none of them did it until he did it. He was a killer on Saturday night live. I don’t care what anyone says. EDDIE is the GOAT. Coming to America was 1 of the funniest movies I have ever seen. That miss blk awareness pageant scene still makes me laugh. It’s always .the ppl that are not as good that want to criticize, Hughley is not even as funny as Harvey or Cedrick.
Mj hasnt played ball in 20 years. But he still IS the goat
Jordan might be in the top 5!
Honestly I'm way to young for Richard Pryor. But if Mr Seinfeld says hes the best, he has to be the best.
I don't remember the last time I bookmarked a djVlad tv video... if ever. I appreciate DL Hughley's mature wisdom here: Bookmarked.
Cat can go toe to toe with the best of them in stand up comedy. But Eddie's body of work and lifetime achievements is something Cat will never see.
So by this logic no one could be the Goat of anything unless it’s been done presently. For example Magic can’t be the Greatest point guard of all time since he hasn’t played in over 25 years. Idk man I don’t really agree with this.
Right. But sports is different cause you could only do it really good in your 20 s and 30s but comedy you could be older and still amazing. So different in some ways.
Eddie Murphy is a hell of a performer and has great stage presence but there are way funnier stand ups out there. Eddie found his calling in movies, even if 80% of them are trash. The good ones are good enough to be his legacy.
No Richard no Eddie you don’t have none of these cats
Eddie has the best catalog of movies than any comedian in history. Period.
You think 80% of Eddie's movies were trash? Nigga what
Agreed!
Eddies movies could of been better. He was young and just doing whatever in front of him. He has some bad ones but his classics make u forget them. All the Shrek movies, coming to America. Nutty professor. Boomerang. Beverly hills cops. Trading places dream girls 48 hours
DL makes a lot of sense to me, although I never considered Eddie Murphy as the GOAT!😎
Thats why he makes sense to YOU
Eddie Murphy is a legend and he paved the way for comedians to do their thing right now so if he never does stand up again it doesn't matter to me. And on a side note I have a you tube channel type in Russell Mills May 22, 2017.
You know... I just watched Coming 2 America. Mr Murphy needs a star EVERYWHERE.
DL HUGHLEY IS A GOAT. ONE OF THE BEST BLACK COMICS TO EVER TOUCH A MIC. THANK YOU DL FOR ALL YOUR GREATNESS AND YOUR WISDOM. APPRECIATE YOU
So the Pac/Biggie conversation is irrelevant, going by Hughley's logic. What about actors? I consider Robert Deniro/Al Pacino to be up there as well, but according to Hughley, they need to be putting out Goodfellas level of movies TODAY to stay in those GOAT talks. How about architecture? I consider Frank Lloyd Wright to be one of the absolute best architects, but because he's not able to put things in the modern-day, (he's dead, after all) those talks suddenly vanish?
I genuinely hate conversations like this because, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. These are all opinions, and everything is subjective. These aren't helpful to anyone, and are about as useful as "who would win in a fight? batman or superman?".
For the record, Eddie Murphy may not be the absolute best, but he's in the top 5, without a doubt. He has some absolute classic sets and is shown love by everyone, all the time. That should be enough.
This needs to be pinned to the top! Great points. I’m bias when it comes to Kat his pimp persona isn’t for me.
Didn’t you kinda argue against yourself you mentioned a dead architect but PAC and Biggie are dead they can’t put out music. His argument was if you completely stop actors and artists still put out work it’s just not as good as before. There’s some exceptions but I mostly agree with that argument.
You really going to mention two people that passed away and can no longer put out music 🤔
@@itinavarait That was my point and something Hughley seemed to hint at: The only way to maintain GOAT status from a _historicial_ point of view is to create something amazing and die soon after.
That seems almost comically unfair.
@@Kirbystare1992 That was my exact point. Biggie and PAC can't defend their respective titles because they aren't alive.
I think the concept of having to maintain GOAT status by putting out masterclass levels of work until the day you die is absolutely ridiculous.
Because the question will inevitably turn to not just the quality of the work, but the _quantity_ as well.
There will always be detractors who think that if your first album is successful, that it still could be considered a "fluke".
If you were to jump to other genres of music, I'd argue that System of A Down is one of, if not the greatest modern day "rock/metal" band, even though they don't have a laundry list of a discography.
Kevin Hart seems to put out a speciial every week and he's nowhere near as talented as Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryer or George Carlin.
The argument over "whose the best?" just needs to die. Everyone should gun for number one, but expecting any one person or entity to give out some sort of an official list or award is just a waste of time.
Even then, There are people who don't agree that an award can act as a suitable symbol of accomplishment. Meryl Streep has won more awards than almost anyone else, yet (generally speaking) She's not the first to come to mind when speaking about GOAT actors.
Long story short: GOAT talks are trivial water-cooler conversations that act as clickbait and are often meant to provoke a reaction to gain views. Nothing more, nothning less.
So, I'm a little confused on this one. There are many that think that certain basketball players are the best ever but they don't play basketball anymore? So I don't know if you can say Eddie is not the GOAT. I would probably say Richard Pryor is in all honesty.
I made the same point about Jordan. He hasn't played in over 15 years. But he's the greatest.
Pryor and Mooney.
Listen to the last part of Katt statement “body of work” so Eddie can be your favorite comedian cause he once was a comedian however what Katt is saying is he can’t be the GOAT because he doesn’t have the body of work to back up that title. MJ hasn’t played in forever but his resume backs up his argument for greatest ever. Eddie blew up so fast that his run doing comedy was short lived because he became a mega movie star.
@@harlemwolf3706 got it...context is everything
I consider Eddie one of the goats of comedy because he was able to get his comedy idols together in movies and preform with them.and each and everyone of them got there shine in Harlem nights.
Eddie is the Jerry Rice of Comedy. You can say there were others better BUT you can't write history without him.
Eddie Murphy is a pioneer, and a goat just not my goat, I watch his stand ups… I couldn’t relate to half that stuff,, but Red Foxx jokes have me crying,,, numbers don’t mean your the best, just means he the most exposed
This is like saying Jordan isn’t the greatest basketball player of all time. Since he’s not playing right now. Katt and DL missed on this one to me.
Facts clear as day
He is the goat back when he played but the new generation goat is Kobe or Lebron it’s a generation thing
@@kenarleslyles2501 GOAT is not supposed to be generational
@@abbeyadeyemi6866 I agree but how can it not be ?
@@kenarleslyles2501 What I mean is that it can't be GOAT of a generation. The AT stands for All Time, so it's Greatest Of All Generations. However, who most people consider the GOAT is heavily influenced by the generation they are from.
He paved the way and inspired all of you, he is the Jordan of comedy
Eddie said that about himself. He can't go back on the road without putting in the work on the local level first. Thing about Eddie is when he was performing there was no one else at his level at that time to compare him too. He's definitely on my list of top 5 comics ever and that's including Pryor, Flip Wilson, Carlin and Chappelle.
I consider Chris Rock the comedy goat. From New Jack City in the late 80’s, to his Ego World Tour this year. Dude has been consistently funny through the years. Legendary standups, solid movies, he hosted the Oscars, the whole shit. Even Chappelle disappeared for years. Rock kept working. Without any major stain on his resume. CR is the goat.
I didn’t like CR when I was younger but as I grew a lil older I started to appreciate his content and contributions more. This guy has been around for a while and he even put Nia Long in her place 🤣
No sex in the champagne room 🎶
Eddy is Chris’s goat soo😂
Chris rock is way better than Kevin hart... but Eddie the goat.. Chris rock Jim Carrey robin Williams. Wayans brothers were all great...but Eddie is Eddie
@@ByondAvrg good shit
@@JOHN-zl5kw we all have our opinions. Eddie is definitely a beast
By DL’s logic, Jordan is no longer on anyones list as a top basketball player. Michael Jackson is no longer one of greatest entertainers ever.