You and tom boykin together just save my life in college! Thank you!! Somehow my college only taught me how to mix and master a song even though i’m study film so I know nothing about post production side of thing.
Thanks so much for doing these. I've been taking time during this "break" to hit the books and pick up some new Pro Tools tricks. I've gotten so much good stuff from this video series and it's much appreciated.
I really enjoyed this tutorial! I love the way you break down your workflow but also explain the decision making process behind each step :) I was wondering if you would apply the same EQ setting to different microphones for the same character? Or do you just work with the Mic that sounds best for that character? e.g the Lav and delete/mute the boom? Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm very new to Audio Post.
Thank you! And nope, not a stupid question at all! So the simple answer is, we always want to try to use the cleanest microphone for every line in the film and EQ as little as possible. Now in reality, that isn't always possible because things happen on a film set, and you don't always record clean audio on every take, or sometimes don't have many mics to choose from when dialogue editing. So that's when we use EQ, is to shape the audio so the audience can better understand the dialogue. Now hopefully when you're dialogue editing, you're using the same mic for each character on a scene by scene basis, so generally you'll keep the same EQ on that character's dialogue throughout the entire scene. But generally no, you don't apply exactly the same EQ settings between characters since their voices most likely sound different and so will need different settings to make them sound more clear. But maybe take a look at my dialogue editing video to see if that also helps answer your question. Thanks for watching!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Hey thanks so much for getting back to me so fast. That all makes sense and I will re visit the dialogue editing video for sure. So broadly speaking if you have two different Mic's for the same character just stick with which ever one sounds best for that scene? rather than try and use the boom and lav at the same time? Thanks in advance, Will
@@willroberts8962 Essentially yes, stick with which ever microphone is the the most understandable, whether it's the boom, the lav, or a combination of the two. Because the audience doesn't necessarily care how "clean" the audio sounds, they only care if they can understand the dialogue or not. And generally I select mics on a scene by scene basis since you don't want to be switching mics too often within a scene because that's just distracting. But yes, the goal of film audio is to better tell the story, not necessarily be the "cleanest" audio mix ever. Hope that helps!
Awesome video Michael! When you copy / paste your automation to a selected clip, is it overwriting automation like volume and panning as well? Would this impact all the work you did in pre-dubbing? Thanks!
Great question! Yes and no. For dialogue you generally don't pan the clips so no issue there, but yes it would overwrite any specific clip volume automation. In that case you just have to EQ each clip individually. But that's normal, mixing isn't exactly a linear process, you're always changing levels, EQ, compression, and reverb interchangeably. So I was just trying to show a feature in Pro Tools that could save you time versus the default of EQing every single clip individually. Hope that helps!
Great video Michael! I love your whole series but I have a question, I generally use audiosuite plugins for all my EQing and NR but I always save the originals in a playlist and a new playlist for each step I make eg. Playlist for the original, then audiosuite EQ, then another playlist, then NR. I've done this for years, from your experience could this cause major problems down the line or is it just another style of workflow?
Thanks! Yep, I think that's fine if you're the only sound person working on the film. Normally I use Audiosuite plugins to noise reduce as well and just put the originals in the X track. I do it this way since if I need to deliver my editorial session to a Mix stage, they normally have their own Pro Tools templates that your audio clips need to be placed into. So for that reason, it's easier to drag and drop audio clips from the X track into a template than to copy Playlists. But when you're working by yourself, you should do whatever works best for you. Hope that answers your question!
@@FilmSoundTutorials im waiting for that because i cant find video with dialogue tracks elsewhere and its pretty important to work in these proffesional conditions that you offer..
I'm glad you enjoy them! Sure, you could render each clip with an AudioSuite plugin versus using automation, but that's a destructive process. And generally with dialogue, unlike SFX or BGs, there's more variety, so having the same settings on each clip might not make it sound the best. So automation gives you more flexibility to tweak the settings on a clip by clip basis. Good question!
I think better way to record all settings (especially with lots of parameters with time changes) you changed is Glide Automation. Way better than drag the knobs a lot of times by hand.
Yep agreed! I don't think Glide Automation was available in the Standard version of Pro Tools when I made this video, but thanks for bringing it up now that they've included it. Thanks for watching!
I'm still using Pro Tools 10 and 11, so I haven't personally tried using Clip Effects. But it sounds cool. I guess my only concern would be backwards compatibility since part of the reason everyone uses Pro Tools is because it's easy to share sessions between studios. So if your changes using Clip Effects didn't translate to an older version, then that's not very helpful.
@@FilmSoundTutorials I use Clip Effects a lot when working on documentaries. The only drawback I see is the fact that it's not possible to automate the EQ.
There's a couple of hacky ways you can mix in 5.1 with only a stereo speaker setup but I wouldn't recommend it. It's better to just rent a 5.1 studio for a couple of hours if you really need a 5.1 mix. Hope that helps!
The legend returns :') so glad you're posting again man, you're doing a huge service for those of us just starting out
Of course! Glad to help out! Thanks for watching!
You and tom boykin together just save my life in college! Thank you!! Somehow my college only taught me how to mix and master a song even though i’m study film so I know nothing about post production side of thing.
Happy to help! That's odd that they didn't teach you more about film audio. Feel free to ask any questions you have!
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Thanks so much for doing these. I've been taking time during this "break" to hit the books and pick up some new Pro Tools tricks. I've gotten so much good stuff from this video series and it's much appreciated.
Awesome, happy to help. Thanks for watching!
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I really enjoyed this tutorial! I love the way you break down your workflow but also explain the decision making process behind each step :) I was wondering if you would apply the same EQ setting to different microphones for the same character? Or do you just work with the Mic that sounds best for that character? e.g the Lav and delete/mute the boom? Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm very new to Audio Post.
Thank you! And nope, not a stupid question at all! So the simple answer is, we always want to try to use the cleanest microphone for every line in the film and EQ as little as possible. Now in reality, that isn't always possible because things happen on a film set, and you don't always record clean audio on every take, or sometimes don't have many mics to choose from when dialogue editing. So that's when we use EQ, is to shape the audio so the audience can better understand the dialogue. Now hopefully when you're dialogue editing, you're using the same mic for each character on a scene by scene basis, so generally you'll keep the same EQ on that character's dialogue throughout the entire scene. But generally no, you don't apply exactly the same EQ settings between characters since their voices most likely sound different and so will need different settings to make them sound more clear. But maybe take a look at my dialogue editing video to see if that also helps answer your question. Thanks for watching!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Hey thanks so much for getting back to me so fast. That all makes sense and I will re visit the dialogue editing video for sure. So broadly speaking if you have two different Mic's for the same character just stick with which ever one sounds best for that scene? rather than try and use the boom and lav at the same time? Thanks in advance, Will
@@willroberts8962 Essentially yes, stick with which ever microphone is the the most understandable, whether it's the boom, the lav, or a combination of the two. Because the audience doesn't necessarily care how "clean" the audio sounds, they only care if they can understand the dialogue or not. And generally I select mics on a scene by scene basis since you don't want to be switching mics too often within a scene because that's just distracting. But yes, the goal of film audio is to better tell the story, not necessarily be the "cleanest" audio mix ever. Hope that helps!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Thank you so much :)
Awesome video Michael! When you copy / paste your automation to a selected clip, is it overwriting automation like volume and panning as well? Would this impact all the work you did in pre-dubbing? Thanks!
Great question! Yes and no. For dialogue you generally don't pan the clips so no issue there, but yes it would overwrite any specific clip volume automation. In that case you just have to EQ each clip individually. But that's normal, mixing isn't exactly a linear process, you're always changing levels, EQ, compression, and reverb interchangeably. So I was just trying to show a feature in Pro Tools that could save you time versus the default of EQing every single clip individually. Hope that helps!
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Happy to help! Thanks for watching!
Great video Michael! I love your whole series but I have a question, I generally use audiosuite plugins for all my EQing and NR but I always save the originals in a playlist and a new playlist for each step I make eg. Playlist for the original, then audiosuite EQ, then another playlist, then NR. I've done this for years, from your experience could this cause major problems down the line or is it just another style of workflow?
Thanks! Yep, I think that's fine if you're the only sound person working on the film. Normally I use Audiosuite plugins to noise reduce as well and just put the originals in the X track. I do it this way since if I need to deliver my editorial session to a Mix stage, they normally have their own Pro Tools templates that your audio clips need to be placed into. So for that reason, it's easier to drag and drop audio clips from the X track into a template than to copy Playlists. But when you're working by yourself, you should do whatever works best for you. Hope that answers your question!
16:26 I would remove also some 200Hz , I hear a ressonance in the room that the older character doesn't have? I don't know about that EQ man.
Sure, when I actually mixed the film, I spent more time trying to match the lines together. Thanks for watching!
Great! Thank you!
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Great content
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Why not just use preview mode automation?
Yep using preview mode automation works too. Thanks for the suggestion!
i really missed your voice my friend! thanks for helping us out, please put new movies in soundtuts so we can practise. Thanks a lot!!!!
Yes I'll have to see if I can get the rights to re-distribute any more of the films I've worked on. Thanks!
@@FilmSoundTutorials im waiting for that because i cant find video with dialogue tracks elsewhere and its pretty important to work in these proffesional conditions that you offer..
@@georgexydous2891 Makes sense! I'll ask around.
Hello! Many thanks again for these awesome videos
I'm glad you enjoy them! Sure, you could render each clip with an AudioSuite plugin versus using automation, but that's a destructive process. And generally with dialogue, unlike SFX or BGs, there's more variety, so having the same settings on each clip might not make it sound the best. So automation gives you more flexibility to tweak the settings on a clip by clip basis. Good question!
@@FilmSoundTutorials gotcha! Thanks so much
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I think better way to record all settings (especially with lots of parameters with time changes) you changed is Glide Automation. Way better than drag the knobs a lot of times by hand.
Yep agreed! I don't think Glide Automation was available in the Standard version of Pro Tools when I made this video, but thanks for bringing it up now that they've included it. Thanks for watching!
What do you think about using Clip Effects?
I'm still using Pro Tools 10 and 11, so I haven't personally tried using Clip Effects. But it sounds cool. I guess my only concern would be backwards compatibility since part of the reason everyone uses Pro Tools is because it's easy to share sessions between studios. So if your changes using Clip Effects didn't translate to an older version, then that's not very helpful.
@@FilmSoundTutorials I use Clip Effects a lot when working on documentaries. The only drawback I see is the fact that it's not possible to automate the EQ.
I don't have a six channel sound card and six speakers. I can do 5.1 mixing. In stereo
There's a couple of hacky ways you can mix in 5.1 with only a stereo speaker setup but I wouldn't recommend it. It's better to just rent a 5.1 studio for a couple of hours if you really need a 5.1 mix. Hope that helps!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Thank you for your reply and help.