Can you, or have you done a video on how women are included or excluded in certain systems as supreme leader? I have often heard about kings that want a son so he can be the next monarch...
Yeah we did get around a fair bit in our younger days. Settled down now though kind of just sit by the fire with a book until one of the cousins starts a fight.
You missed the best part of the story. After defeating the Welsh rebels Longshanks decided to quiet the rebellious lords by declaring that he would appoint a prince, born in wales, to the title Prince of Wales This seemed to make the welsh princes happy until he appointed his son, who had been born in wales, and was a prince, Prince of Wales. Trolling is very very medieval.
You forgot to add to the (mythical) story that he also promised not only would the prince be born in Wales, but wouldn't speak English, which of course the baby didn't.
You missed my favorite story, that the King of England promised the Welsh royals that he would name as Prince of Wales a royal prince who spoke no English. However, in keeping his promise, he tricked them by naming his infant son, who couldn’t talk at that point as Prince of Wales, instead of one of them.
The story says that the Welsh nobles put three conditons to the invader English king before he could designate the first Prince of Wales, in 1284: 1: the infant must be born in Wales. 2: the infant must be of royal blood. 3: the infant must not speak a single word of English. The English king simply presented his newborn son, who had been born in Wales only a few days before, who was of Royal blood, and, obviously, who spoke no word at all yet, neither in English or any other language.
The heir to the throne of the United Kingdom isn't automatically titled The Prince of Wales. But the title The Prince of Wales can only be bestowed upon the heir to the throne.
I heard that now Prince William will now be the Prince of Wales. That is good, but I still do not know if it is out of respect for Llewellyn the Great and Wales or a power grab.
@@saundracarter-hebert the title Princess of Wales is only given to the wife of the Prince of Wales. Since 1631, the eldest daughter of the monarch can be given the title Princess Royal, however the title was never available for Queen Elizabeth II during the reign of her father King George VI as her aunt Princess Mary already had the title (When the monarch’s eldest daughter receives the title Princess Royal she keeps it for life unless she becomes queen). When Mary died in 1965, Elizabeth was already queen thus she couldn’t inherit the title.
Charles is not the crown prince of England, he's heir to the UK throne. You also say the "countries" of the UK are "coequal". They are not equal. The powers of the NI, Scottish and Welsh devolved governments are different and England has no devolved government at all. Furthermore, you make it sound like the UK is a federation. It isn't. And I have no idea how you could describe NI as "quiet". Ever heard of the troubles? Heard of the brexit Irish border issue?
The term Crown Prince is used to denote an heir to the throne. He's not called that here, but foreigners would use that term and it's not strictly wrong. The initial description, though, wasn't accurate. Calling England "popular". 😂 Can't watch much European-centric sport, then.
@@mehhandle I'm from the USA. I've been to Wales. There were a lot of people with the last names Jones and Evans in Wales. Also, the Welsh word for stop has a lot of letters in it.
I was like 8 years old watching Prince Charles get invested as PoW. All I could think of is why is this lady hitting this poor boy on his shoulders with a sword. What did he do?
@@gideonroos1188 Actually there is no definitive example of a country. And Wales was most definitely recognised as a separate nation as the Welsh were recognised as a people divided by a boarder between the "English" counties.
@@gideonroos1188 when the Anglo saxons first arrived they called the Britons "walla" which eventually changed into Welsh/Wales in the English language, they knew it was a country and the Welsh themselves reffered to each other as cymru which from what I understand translates into "fellow countrymen" I'm no expert but that's more or less how it was after the Romans left.
@@gideonroos1188 I can't tell if you're trolling me now so this has to be my last comment on the matter, the Greeks referenced themselves as greeks in Greece constantly, from what I know even Philip of macedons planned invasion of persia was literally meant to be a united Greek invasion. Countries aren't defined by literal governments but by the people who live there and its really down to them if it is a country and with Wales it definitely was the case as in their language they literally call each other countrymen
I found the title "Prince of Wales" to be quite curious! Although I vaguely knew about the medieval Principality of Wales, this video provided me with plenty more information, including the possible "first" Princes of Wales, the story of the conquest of Wales, and even how the future Charles III gave his investiture speech... in Welsh! Thanks for the video! Subscribed!
Great video! I really enjoyed it..For future reference Worcester is pronounced 'Wus-ster' ..I'm from the UK and we have a few places that are not pronunced in an obvious way Leicester and Middlesbrough being 2 examples..I believe it has something to do with the vowel shift, place names were pronunced different ways over the centuries and the spelling didn't always match..Maybe a cool topic for a future video!! Keep up the great work ✌
I'm not from the UK but I've been a fan of British comedy for a long time now and the way they say the place names a lot of times really makes me confused 😅 that would be a nice idea for a video also, how it came about. And while we're at it, the different accents and languages in the UK is also fascinating. I've always thought english is the only language spoken over there!
@@llydrsn Well we have celtic languages to some degree, Welsh in particular seems to be the most used but I don't know for sure..UK accents can be an challenge even for native Brits but I enjoy all the differences keeps things fun..This video explains things well for place names th-cam.com/video/uYNzqgU7na4/w-d-xo.html
@@danmitigation3273 I'm from the Philippines! I started watching British shows from here about 5 or 6 years ago when I was offered a job in Dunbar, Scotland. Unfortunately, I had to decline due to some family reasons. For language quirks, basically our "official" language is Filipino which is a strange combination of a local language (Tagalog), Spanish, and English - with a smattering of Chinese and Malay. A Swiss colleague of mine who knows Spanish and English claims he can understand what we were talking about in Filipino due to the number of familiar words. And oh, we have a local Spanish Creole language in some places here too due to over 300 years of Spanish occupation
Sharon Kay Penman wrote a great trilogy about Llewelyn the Great through Llewelyn the Last called the Welsh Princes trilogy, which brings this all to life. Highly recommend!
I realize that history is fraught with disagreements, but this is an incredibly biased telling of the history of English conquest of Wales. It also has a lot of inaccuracies, and states some English claims as fact in spite of documentary evidence that contradicts those claims. However the most egregious thing about this telling is that it leaves out the most interesting parts of the story. For instance, the Welsh lords told Edward they would never bend the knee to a Prince of Wales who spoke English and had not been born in Wales. Edward took his pregnant wife to the still incomplete castle in Caernarfon (the true hinterlands of that time). When his son was born, he later crowned him "Prince of Wales," telling the lords that their conditions had been met.
@@gideonroos1188 Two out of the four countries that make up the UK have main political parties that want to leave the UK. You can "point dexter" your arse off all you want bud about the system of government. It's utterly irrelevant to the point I was making.
Did you just call Wales, Englands younger brother? You realise Wales is basically what remains of Britannia before Roman invasion, before there even was an England, right?
Correct, the Welsh are the original and indigenous Britons. The ignorance of this video is a testament to the lack of proper education of its creators.
I think at least somebody was already in Britain before the Celts came over from Europe in the then shallow sea, not sure when. 1500bc? Don't be so hard on this video maker, he did well. It's TH-cam. Good grief.
@@MissBabalu102 Precisely. Because it's on TH-cam, we have the right to criticize it as we see fit. Calling Wales "England's younger brother" is plainly false and the creator should be called out for it
@@lloyd9500 Fine, but maybe be gentle, yet accurate. How do you think I feel, my Grandpa 900 years ago was the Last Great Prince of Wales. The English tricked him, while he was trying to do good.
@@Tomallenny I'm a Welsh speaker, and for me at least when Welsh words or names are mispronounced it's the audio equivalent of dragging fingernails down a blackboard . If you _will_ have a compulsion for the need to comment, at least make it constructive.
All descendants from Queen Victoria are spread across and in the European Royal Monarchy. The heirs of these European Monarchy are in line to the UK throne. 🇬🇧
you summed things up nicely but omitted the story that Edward 1to tey and make the Welsh lords amenable to English rule promised them a prince who could speak no word of English and as his pregnant wife was about to give birth while they were in Carnarvon showed the newly born infant, who was unable to talk, to the assembled lords as the promised Prince of Wales who could speak no English
@@SRosenberg203 while it was Henry V who promoted English as the language for the court earlier kings especially Edward I who had learned English as a child they were probably a least able to speak and understand both Norman-French and English
What about the British overseas territories and special regions like Isle of Man and the Channel Islands? Would be interested to see you cover these topics too
Actually pronunciation can vary wildly within a language. You are correct that the locals pronounce it that way... which is arguably the correct way. But regional variations in pronunciation aren't really what you'd call wrong. They're just different. Many English speaking countries and regions pronounce things differently. Not to forget that words and pronunciation can also change with time.
Thank-you! I really don't understand why people get stuck on England🏴 = Britain🇬🇧. Then again people used Russia interchangeably with the Soviet Union for 7 decades and would have kept going if it still existed.
@@sion8 one reason is because people say "British accent" more commonly than "English accent", and a British accent is way different than a Scottish or Irish accent
@@samuelgunter You just did what I said isn't correct. A British accent covers all those accents in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, all British! An English accent are only those from England, a Welsh only those in Wales, a Scottish accent all those from Scotland, and Northern-Irish accent only those from Northern Ireland. Equating British as English is as wrong as equating U.S. accents as only those from California!
He’s also known (if only by himself) as the Duke of Cornwall, in subjugation of the proud Kernowyon Celts, the fifth country comprising the United (or Subjugated) Queendom.
In fact, the male heir (things have now changed with the changes in the rules of the order of succession in order to remove primogeniture) was created Duke of Cornwall at birth, and only later Prince of Wales at the discretion of the sovereign.
I was under the impression that in pre-Saxon times some folk would count Cornwall as part of Wales. I'm not sure exactly where that border was. The Tamar? And if you want a strange Royal Duke, consider the Duke of Lancaster. The Duchy of Lancaster certainly exists: it can have a Chancellor (who, if appointed, sits in The Cabinet). Yet the Duke of Lancaster is strangely absent. Of all the Royal Dukes, the Duke of Lancaster never appears to pay homage to the crown and never takes a seat in the House of Lords. Well that's not quite true. Many years ago the Duke of Lancaster took a seat in the House of Lords and still has it. It's that fancy one at the front. Once the Duke of Lancaster defeated the Duke of York, the Duke of Lancaster became King. The Monarch grants all the other titles, and holds all titles not currently granted to anyone else, but does not have the string of lower titles most other peers have. The Monarch acts as Duke of Lancaster, has all the benefits of being Duke of Lancaster (and a very rich Dukedom it is too) and will never ever grant the title Duke of Lancaster to anyone else, but it would make no heraldic sense at all to say the King is Duke of Lancaster. Which, in some ways, is a shame.
As for a person who’s a complete outsider regarding this topic, I must say this was quite interesting to get to know at least a vague explanation of how comes that the heir of Great Britain, living in England, for wte reason is a Prince of Wales. In my country Wales as a country is just as an alien topic as my country everywhere else outside my country, so, going through The Crown and finding out a bit more info regarding Wales felt quite relatable. Otherwise, actually, we have heard here of Wales mostly only in the context of, ironically, English royals.
“Worcester” is pronounced “wooster,” with the “oo” being short, like in “cook.” This applies to the city or county in England, as well as the city in Massachusetts.
I couldn’t figure out which was cooler, your video or the music you used in the video. Either way I learned something I always wanted to know and found some cool new music to listen to as well. Double win!
In fairness my uncles (Welsh) version is slightly different from the account given as well. Would like to have known what my great great grandfather thought on the subject (he was Welsh and owned/ran a school in Wales until he married a lass from Aberdeenshire. Then they both moved to England and he taught in schools there).
I like the brothers analogy for anyone outside of the UK who doesn’t know the kingdoms that comprise it… however I can tell you that using that analogy inside of the UK will only get you beaten up, atleast by anyone not from England.
Having lived in aberffraw, sometimes in the dead of the night people claim they can hear distant war cries and sounds of age old language welsh being spoken, the square in aberffraw at night is scary
0:41 are you trolling? Older brother? Invaders you mean. Cymru are the original inhabitants of these shores and also the first Christian nation. Wales had saints before England was a nation. So the prince of wales title is because there is a long history of real native welsh princes. Welsh for prince is tywysog tywys means guide.
He actually said more assassinations' attempts happened on Diana than him, when Diana went to watch a polo match for the first time after marriage in 1981, Diana said she was sent back by the secret service because they found someone pouring poison into a cup that was supposed to be used for her.
It wasn't really a plot. Just some hotheads asking the leadership of the group "well, why don't we kill him?" To which the leader responded by slapping that suggestion down. Never went any further than that.
Thank you I was just about the comment the same thing, he also brushed over the fact Llywelyn the Great fought the English and won most of the battles, and that Treaty of Worcester was the only way that Henry III could save face
Oldest by 10 years? That's an odd statement to make really. If we're talking about the 4 parts of the UK, and when they as that particular entity was a fully independent sovereign country: England, 927 to 1707 Scotland, 843 to 1707 Wales 1216 to 1546 Northern Ireland has never been independent. It was created in 1921, and didn't exist before Cornwall, 722 to 838 A few notes though. When the Norman invasion was over, the Normans didn't control all of what's now England. The Lake District wasn't in England yet for a start. Edinburgh wasn't even in Scotland when Scotland was formed. It was in a neighbouring country of Lothian that was later absorbed. Some of the dates are kinda arbitrary. Like there was an England arguably once Wessex had conquered Essex, Kent, Sussex, Middlesex and East Anglia. That was the first kingdom of the angles here. Conquering mercia (the Midlands) and Northumbria (the north of England), was a fair bit later. Similar with Wales, there was a Wales sure, but it only covered Gwynedd to start and then later on more of north and central Wales. I'm not sure if that ever covered as much as modern Wales.
@@aodhanmonaghan4664 How was Wales was independent and Sovereign between 1216 and 1546? They were subsumed into the English Crown in 1283 by Edward Longshanks. If we want to talk about Wales being independent and sovereign, I'd say we have to go back to Owain Fawr, Llewlyn's grandfather, who ruled Wales from like 1137 and 1170. His men nearly killed Henry II of England during an invasion one time, and Henry never seriously tried to conquer Wales after that.
@@SRosenberg203 a merger of crowns also happened with Scotland too. Whilst the king of England controlled the new territory it was still legally separate. It's the same reason we don't say that the Electorate of Brunswick-Lüneburg was part of the Kingdom of Great Britain despite the fact they shared a monarch, and i suppose the nearest equivalent today could be how Australia is sovereign adjective yet shares a sovereign noun with the UK
Extremely interesting video. I must say it's nice to know where & how the Prince of Wales title began. I wonder how many Brutains know this history. Excellent😆👍✌❤
I can assure you that there are few million of us in Wales who know the history and despise it....centuries of oppression are not going to be forgiven....
Didnt rulers before Lleweyln the Great call themselves 'princeps' a title higher than king technically? And this passed of the English King leading Lleweyln to submit
I'm from New York, and I lived in Worcester, Mass for a while, I heard a lot of wooster and wuhstah, depending on where you came from, and how thick your accent was
As a Welsh person I’m disgusted that the English killed are royalty and placed their own children on the throne which meant the prince of wales doesn’t come from wales or even speak the language. This is why I dislike the english
6:32 - Note that the word "primer", when referring to a rundown of basic information, is pronounced with the vowel in the word "prim". It is only when referring to an initial coat of paint that "primer" is pronounced with the vowel in "prime".
Thank you. It's a shame to hear this mispronounced so much, especially when we all learned to read from primers (prim'-ers). It's one of a long list of heteronyms we have to put up with in the English language.
Let me guess...English isn't your 1st language and you've been taught "American" rather than English....see I grew up in a City called Birmingham, you may have heard of it, right in the middle of England, and I can assure you that no English person would ever pronounce it in the way you so idiotically suggest...it's Primer as in Prime Minister, or Paint Primer...becuase you half-witted clown its root is that of being FIRST or Prime. Now run along and keep your useless misinformation to yourself
Really informative. I only have a comment to make that I know your voice is American but sorry to say you didn’t pronounce some words correctly but I understand our language isn’t that easy. Thank you so much for your video 👍
@@jcruby2328 can’t say I’ve ever in my life heard it pronounced anything like that. To highlight the “a” clearer we tend to pronounce it as if there’s an “r” directly after it but it’s not verbalised. I’ve only ever heard it pronounced like the word “porter” Whenever I’ve heard an American pronounce it, it sounds more as if the “t” is replaced with a “d” (or more like a “dt”) with variations on the “a” depending on region. Worcester’s always intrigued me regarding the American take on it. And Gloucester.
It's too be noted that Wales was the first country that England annexed age colonised. We don't love England too much. At least, that's what I'm told as a foreigner here. Oh the pronunciation! Here's a mind job, I frequently shop where Owain Glyndŵr had his first Welsh parliament. I live in Wales, and much of my life happens around this area you spoke of. It's a magical place. You should try visit sometime. I'll take you around to all the places
What the video doesn’t mention is Welsh king’s became English royalty through marriage not conquest and subsequently went onto to rule Britain, France and Ireland.
@@circularcommunitiescymru9991 The dynasty all ended in the reign of Elizabeth I. By that time they made England the most powerful nation in the world.
the prince of wales is also the 'Duke of Cornwall' another seperate realm of royality that was not the English royal family.. but that's a whole different kettle of fish most people don't want to talk about especially in 'British' politics.
No, it's foisted on us by England, a title they stole. They beat us in a battle centuries ago so to this day they keep the title and use it to show us who's running the show politically, socially etc. Colonial
Prince Charles is also Duke of Rothesay,Lord of the Isles, Earl of Carrick and High Steward of Scotland!! He gains these Scottish titles as son of the Monarch!
And Baron of Renfrew. As well as Duke of Cornwall and Earl of Chester and since his father died he is now also Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merineth and Baron Greenwich
Wales and Scotland are both older than England. In fact, English people are not even from Britain, but the area around Germany and Denmark. The Anglo-Saxons came to Britain in the 5th century. The name England even comes from Angle.
What are you even saying. Just because the ruling class changed from original inhabitants to Romans, then Saxons, then partially to Scandinavians and then French doesn't mean the people are not British. It's not like after being conquered everyone just packs their things and leave.
Thanks for watching!
And yes, I know I mispronounced Worcester, y'all can stop telling me (but I know you won't).
more offended by the butchered welsh names xD
@@spexbeanfarmer I'm English but even I cringed 😅
Can you, or have you done a video on how women are included or excluded in certain systems as supreme leader? I have often heard about kings that want a son so he can be the next monarch...
It's not the only thing you mispronounced!
I came here to say exactly that! Lol... sorry.
You should add an errata to this comment, actually including the correct pronounciation...
"Having grown discontented with English rule... " must be one of the most common descriptors in history, about the start of any sort of rebellion.
Yeah we did get around a fair bit in our younger days. Settled down now though kind of just sit by the fire with a book until one of the cousins starts a fight.
Yup, all the countries that now have democracy and freedom.
Ha!
Laughing in the USA 🤣
The English are there now!
You missed the best part of the story. After defeating the Welsh rebels Longshanks decided to quiet the rebellious lords by declaring that he would appoint a prince, born in wales, to the title Prince of Wales This seemed to make the welsh princes happy until he appointed his son, who had been born in wales, and was a prince, Prince of Wales.
Trolling is very very medieval.
Yeah. Never happened, though.
@@narannavan I don't don't know.. but the rule of a good story is to never let the truth get in it's way.
Yes, ye Olde Trollinge.
@5:51
You forgot to add to the (mythical) story that he also promised not only would the prince be born in Wales, but wouldn't speak English, which of course the baby didn't.
You missed my favorite story, that the King of England promised the Welsh royals that he would name as Prince of Wales a royal prince who spoke no English. However, in keeping his promise, he tricked them by naming his infant son, who couldn’t talk at that point as Prince of Wales, instead of one of them.
real life 100 speech check
Trickery..Ed the first is my favorite king
The story says that the Welsh nobles put three conditons to the invader English king before he could designate the first Prince of Wales, in 1284:
1: the infant must be born in Wales.
2: the infant must be of royal blood.
3: the infant must not speak a single word of English.
The English king simply presented his newborn son, who had been born in Wales only a few days before, who was of Royal blood, and, obviously, who spoke no word at all yet, neither in English or any other language.
@@juanitolopez9731 Did the Welsh cry foul over this and demand a Welsh person?
The heir to the throne of the United Kingdom isn't automatically titled The Prince of Wales. But the title The Prince of Wales can only be bestowed upon the heir to the throne.
I heard that now Prince William will now be the Prince of Wales. That is good, but I still do not know if it is out of respect for Llewellyn the Great and Wales or a power grab.
Is that why Queen Elizabeth II was never Princess of Wales despite being heir since childhood? Or is it only a male inheritance?
@@saundracarter-hebert think was more out of her dad not expecting to be king but the title of Princess of wales can exist - does exist
@@saundracarter-hebert her uncle who was meant to be king was the prince of Wales but when he vacated the throne she became queen
@@saundracarter-hebert the title Princess of Wales is only given to the wife of the Prince of Wales. Since 1631, the eldest daughter of the monarch can be given the title Princess Royal, however the title was never available for Queen Elizabeth II during the reign of her father King George VI as her aunt Princess Mary already had the title (When the monarch’s eldest daughter receives the title Princess Royal she keeps it for life unless she becomes queen). When Mary died in 1965, Elizabeth was already queen thus she couldn’t inherit the title.
Charles is not the crown prince of England, he's heir to the UK throne. You also say the "countries" of the UK are "coequal". They are not equal. The powers of the NI, Scottish and Welsh devolved governments are different and England has no devolved government at all. Furthermore, you make it sound like the UK is a federation. It isn't. And I have no idea how you could describe NI as "quiet". Ever heard of the troubles? Heard of the brexit Irish border issue?
The term Crown Prince is used to denote an heir to the throne. He's not called that here, but foreigners would use that term and it's not strictly wrong. The initial description, though, wasn't accurate. Calling England "popular". 😂 Can't watch much European-centric sport, then.
@@daviddavies3637 the issue isn't "crown prince", it's "of England". That title doesn't exist.
Ty.. ur from?
Scotland is pretty coequal considering they joined via marriage of crowns, not conquest
Jesus Christ
This level of editing and graphics for such a modest view count isn’t fair, I’ll make sure to flex that I was a part of the 8000ish when you go big.
Your forgot to add that Wales has the coolest flag lol
Yes, a dragon is on the flag.
Can't disagree with you there, Wales has a great flag 👍
@@mehhandle I'm from the USA. I've been to Wales. There were a lot of people with the last names Jones and Evans in Wales. Also, the Welsh word for stop has a lot of letters in it.
I think you mean 'Malta'
@@davea6314 Surprisingly, the second most common surname in Wales is Davies. I thought Evans and Williams and Hughes would be more common.
I was like 8 years old watching Prince Charles get invested as PoW. All I could think of is why is this lady hitting this poor boy on his shoulders with a sword. What did he do?
When they call NI “the quiet one”…
*whispers- who’s gonna tell him*
Innit...
Don’t think he is up to date on recent history. Northern Ireland certainly haven’t been quiet
well you're whispering sooooo....
Exactly
The quiet ones with schizophrenic neighbours.
Wales is arguably older than England seeing how the Britons used to inhabit those lands.
Old tends to be congquer by the young bcoz how old they are. Always happened that way.
@@gideonroos1188 Actually there is no definitive example of a country. And Wales was most definitely recognised as a separate nation as the Welsh were recognised as a people divided by a boarder between the "English" counties.
@@gideonroos1188 when the Anglo saxons first arrived they called the Britons "walla" which eventually changed into Welsh/Wales in the English language, they knew it was a country and the Welsh themselves reffered to each other as cymru which from what I understand translates into "fellow countrymen" I'm no expert but that's more or less how it was after the Romans left.
@@gideonroos1188 with that logic aincent Greece wasn't a country at all as it consisted of warring city states.
@@gideonroos1188 I can't tell if you're trolling me now so this has to be my last comment on the matter, the Greeks referenced themselves as greeks in Greece constantly, from what I know even Philip of macedons planned invasion of persia was literally meant to be a united Greek invasion. Countries aren't defined by literal governments but by the people who live there and its really down to them if it is a country and with Wales it definitely was the case as in their language they literally call each other countrymen
When he's naughty and gets punished, they don't have to say he's crying.
They can just call him the Prince of Wails.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wales* 😒😒😒😒😒
This comment is underrated 😂😂
@@KarmaKraftttt u clearly didn't get the joke😅😂😂
@@ishanvyas1990 You're endian ?
I found the title "Prince of Wales" to be quite curious! Although I vaguely knew about the medieval Principality of Wales, this video provided me with plenty more information, including the possible "first" Princes of Wales, the story of the conquest of Wales, and even how the future Charles III gave his investiture speech... in Welsh! Thanks for the video! Subscribed!
Great video! I really enjoyed it..For future reference Worcester is pronounced 'Wus-ster' ..I'm from the UK and we have a few places that are not pronunced in an obvious way Leicester and Middlesbrough being 2 examples..I believe it has something to do with the vowel shift, place names were pronunced different ways over the centuries and the spelling didn't always match..Maybe a cool topic for a future video!! Keep up the great work ✌
I'm not from the UK but I've been a fan of British comedy for a long time now and the way they say the place names a lot of times really makes me confused 😅 that would be a nice idea for a video also, how it came about. And while we're at it, the different accents and languages in the UK is also fascinating. I've always thought english is the only language spoken over there!
@@llydrsn Well we have celtic languages to some degree, Welsh in particular seems to be the most used but I don't know for sure..UK accents can be an challenge even for native Brits but I enjoy all the differences keeps things fun..This video explains things well for place names th-cam.com/video/uYNzqgU7na4/w-d-xo.html
@@danmitigation3273 thanks man!
@@llydrsn No worries..Which country are you from? Would be interested to hear some other countries language quirks
@@danmitigation3273 I'm from the Philippines! I started watching British shows from here about 5 or 6 years ago when I was offered a job in Dunbar, Scotland. Unfortunately, I had to decline due to some family reasons. For language quirks, basically our "official" language is Filipino which is a strange combination of a local language (Tagalog), Spanish, and English - with a smattering of Chinese and Malay. A Swiss colleague of mine who knows Spanish and English claims he can understand what we were talking about in Filipino due to the number of familiar words. And oh, we have a local Spanish Creole language in some places here too due to over 300 years of Spanish occupation
Not going to lie, when I was REALLY young I thought Prince of Wales had to do with the ocean and marine life.
😂😂😂😂
Like Namor?
Intrestingly the comparable position in France is daulphin or dolphin.
Sharon Kay Penman wrote a great trilogy about Llewelyn the Great through Llewelyn the Last called the Welsh Princes trilogy, which brings this all to life. Highly recommend!
I realize that history is fraught with disagreements, but this is an incredibly biased telling of the history of English conquest of Wales. It also has a lot of inaccuracies, and states some English claims as fact in spite of documentary evidence that contradicts those claims. However the most egregious thing about this telling is that it leaves out the most interesting parts of the story. For instance, the Welsh lords told Edward they would never bend the knee to a Prince of Wales who spoke English and had not been born in Wales. Edward took his pregnant wife to the still incomplete castle in Caernarfon (the true hinterlands of that time). When his son was born, he later crowned him "Prince of Wales," telling the lords that their conditions had been met.
Indeed, Longshanks is the OG pre-Interneet Troll and never to be doubted.
Oh, so that's why the castle's name is stuck to his name. I just saw this vid and I thought it was weird.
This is false.
This is what happens when Americans take over UK history 🙄
@@paulinecoburn181 😂😂
"Co-Equal" and nobody has ever called Belfast "lovely"
@@gideonroos1188 Two out of the four countries that make up the UK have main political parties that want to leave the UK. You can "point dexter" your arse off all you want bud about the system of government. It's utterly irrelevant to the point I was making.
I love Belfast, it’s beautiful
@@gideonroos1188 Are you slow man?
@@gideonroos1188 Haha ad hominems. Oh man....
@@michaeld8280 stop it you're embarrassing yourself
This channel is so high quality, needs way more views
This is exactly my question. Thank you for your clear explanation!
Not an American saying Scotland is the rebellious one and NI is quiet 😂😂
I suppose we could call NI “the quiet one,” as in the one we probably should be watching the most.
Technically Scotland is older than England
All of the Celtic populations are older than England
Wales is older than Scotland, England and Northern Ireland. The Cymru ('Welsh' in English) tribes fought the Romans.
Wales is much older than the other home nations
Nice one! I never quite understood why they called them that.
Worcester is pronounced “Wuss-ter,” not “War-sester.” See also: Gloucester (“Gloss-ter”) and Leicester (“Less-ter”)
The Welsh pronunciations were even worse, but this too
Thank you sir.. you must pardon us the brutes of America
Usually I’d just tell Americans to pronounce Leicester like Lester form gta they usually understand then
I think the problem is “Worcestershire sauce” giving him the pronunciation wuss-tuh-sher
@@Kinghavs Worcester, MA is pronounced same as the British.
Did you just call Wales, Englands younger brother? You realise Wales is basically what remains of Britannia before Roman invasion, before there even was an England, right?
Correct, the Welsh are the original and indigenous Britons.
The ignorance of this video is a testament to the lack of proper education of its creators.
I think at least somebody was already in Britain before the Celts came over from Europe in the then shallow sea, not sure when. 1500bc?
Don't be so hard on this video maker, he did well. It's TH-cam. Good grief.
@@MissBabalu102 Precisely. Because it's on TH-cam, we have the right to criticize it as we see fit. Calling Wales "England's younger brother" is plainly false and the creator should be called out for it
@@lloyd9500 Fine, but maybe be gentle, yet accurate. How do you think I feel, my Grandpa 900 years ago was the Last Great Prince of Wales. The English tricked him, while he was trying to do good.
@@MissBabalu102 No rubbish this is total misinformation
Impeccable timing, TH-cam recommendations.
The art style is amazing, great video 😁
Just found this channel. Amazing, man!
1:48 Owain is pronounced 'Owe -wine'
2:40 Aberdyfi is pronounced 'Aber - dove - ee'
3:49 Dafydd is pronounced 'Dah-vith'
Male chicken is pronounced "cock'. We all done with stupid so we can go on to comments that have meaning.
@@Tomallenny I'm a Welsh speaker, and for me at least when Welsh words or names are mispronounced it's the audio equivalent of dragging fingernails down a blackboard .
If you _will_ have a compulsion for the need to comment, at least make it constructive.
Worcester is not wooctesir too
He isn't a Welsh native speaker, but he was able to answer the question.
@@TomallennyDon't be an arse about the Welsh pronunciations.
Prince of Asturias (Spain), Prince of Orange ( Dutch) are also princes that could get the throne in the future in their respective countries.
Princesses I think Belgium have some like that too
Both heirs are princesses
All descendants from Queen Victoria are spread across and in the European Royal Monarchy. The heirs of these European Monarchy are in line to the UK throne. 🇬🇧
you summed things up nicely but omitted the story that Edward 1to tey and make the Welsh lords amenable to English rule promised them a prince who could speak no word of English and as his pregnant wife was about to give birth while they were in Carnarvon showed the newly born infant, who was unable to talk, to the assembled lords as the promised Prince of Wales who could speak no English
I thought the same.
Even if the Prince could talk, he still wouldn't have spoken a word of English. English monarchs didn't start speaking English until like the 1400s.
@@SRosenberg203 Edward the first would have been speaking English
@@nirnman He might have had a few words or phrases, but he certainly wasn't fluent. The language of the Court was Norman-French until like Henry V.
@@SRosenberg203 while it was Henry V who promoted English as the language for the court earlier kings especially Edward I who had learned English as a child they were probably a least able to speak and understand both Norman-French and English
"the welsh seemd to accept the new princes of wales"
well, they really didn't have any choice.
What about the British overseas territories and special regions like Isle of Man and the Channel Islands? Would be interested to see you cover these topics too
Your pronunciations are most amusing. Worcester is pronounced “Wooster” and Daffydd is “Davith”
*Dafydd
Wuster as in muster, not wooster as in rooster
@@jimmimak Closer to rooster than muster. Like a “ü”
Actually pronunciation can vary wildly within a language. You are correct that the locals pronounce it that way... which is arguably the correct way. But regional variations in pronunciation aren't really what you'd call wrong. They're just different. Many English speaking countries and regions pronounce things differently. Not to forget that words and pronunciation can also change with time.
@@cgaccount3669 Worcester is a town in England. The British pronounce it wusster. Enough said.
You did a great job i learned a lot never mind the rude comments as a Canadian I learned so much thank you
THANK YOU so much for that interesting history that
I've never heard of.
I had, however, wondered why...
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He is not the crown prince of England. He is heir to the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and a Northern Ireland
Thank-you! I really don't understand why people get stuck on England🏴 = Britain🇬🇧. Then again people used Russia interchangeably with the Soviet Union for 7 decades and would have kept going if it still existed.
@@sion8 one reason is because people say "British accent" more commonly than "English accent", and a British accent is way different than a Scottish or Irish accent
@@samuelgunter
You just did what I said isn't correct. A British accent covers all those accents in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, all British! An English accent are only those from England, a Welsh only those in Wales, a Scottish accent all those from Scotland, and Northern-Irish accent only those from Northern Ireland.
Equating British as English is as wrong as equating U.S. accents as only those from California!
@@sion8 read my comment again, carefully
@@samuelgunter
I did.
Thank you for this video🎉🙌🏻
He’s also known (if only by himself) as the Duke of Cornwall, in subjugation of the proud Kernowyon Celts, the fifth country comprising the United (or Subjugated) Queendom.
In fact, the male heir (things have now changed with the changes in the rules of the order of succession in order to remove primogeniture) was created Duke of Cornwall at birth, and only later Prince of Wales at the discretion of the sovereign.
I was under the impression that in pre-Saxon times some folk would count Cornwall as part of Wales. I'm not sure exactly where that border was. The Tamar?
And if you want a strange Royal Duke, consider the Duke of Lancaster. The Duchy of Lancaster certainly exists: it can have a Chancellor (who, if appointed, sits in The Cabinet). Yet the Duke of Lancaster is strangely absent. Of all the Royal Dukes, the Duke of Lancaster never appears to pay homage to the crown and never takes a seat in the House of Lords.
Well that's not quite true. Many years ago the Duke of Lancaster took a seat in the House of Lords and still has it. It's that fancy one at the front.
Once the Duke of Lancaster defeated the Duke of York, the Duke of Lancaster became King. The Monarch grants all the other titles, and holds all titles not currently granted to anyone else, but does not have the string of lower titles most other peers have. The Monarch acts as Duke of Lancaster, has all the benefits of being Duke of Lancaster (and a very rich Dukedom it is too) and will never ever grant the title Duke of Lancaster to anyone else, but it would make no heraldic sense at all to say the King is Duke of Lancaster.
Which, in some ways, is a shame.
kernow bys vyken brother
@@eagleflies9515 A yll’ta kewsel Kernewek?
Facinating video! Never thought about this until your video showed up! Really informative! Keep up the good work
I always wondered this and Google was never a help so thank you!
Love videos like these, please make more
Great vid
Can you make one of Spain and the Prince of Asturias, please?!
Princess of asturias
As for a person who’s a complete outsider regarding this topic, I must say this was quite interesting to get to know at least a vague explanation of how comes that the heir of Great Britain, living in England, for wte reason is a Prince of Wales.
In my country Wales as a country is just as an alien topic as my country everywhere else outside my country, so, going through The Crown and finding out a bit more info regarding Wales felt quite relatable. Otherwise, actually, we have heard here of Wales mostly only in the context of, ironically, English royals.
“Worcester” is pronounced “wooster,” with the “oo” being short, like in “cook.” This applies to the city or county in England, as well as the city in Massachusetts.
We also have Worcester in South Africa, the Western Cape.
fyi: There also is a Wooster, Ohio. It is pronounced: “wister” SHORT i.
@@thegreypath1777 Some people pronounce Worcester MA like that.
Does it also apply to Worcester source.
Very interesting,thank you
Cool video. Always wondered about that.
I couldn’t figure out which was cooler, your video or the music you used in the video. Either way I learned something I always wanted to know and found some cool new music to listen to as well. Double win!
My grandfather was Welsh. His telling of this history differs somewhat from the official English account.
Might you tell us this story?
Now would be a good time to tell it.
History is written by the victors
@@coolstuffer123 you want him to tell you the history of Wales via a TH-cam comment section?....there's dumb and then there's your request
In fairness my uncles (Welsh) version is slightly different from the account given as well. Would like to have known what my great great grandfather thought on the subject (he was Welsh and owned/ran a school in Wales until he married a lass from Aberdeenshire. Then they both moved to England and he taught in schools there).
Thank you very much for the video. It's very informative and educating.
Maybe you should also mention that Charles was invested with the title in Caernavon castle in north Wales
Thank you
I like the brothers analogy for anyone outside of the UK who doesn’t know the kingdoms that comprise it… however I can tell you that using that analogy inside of the UK will only get you beaten up, atleast by anyone not from England.
It's a rather faulty analogy. Wales is hardly the "youngest brother".
"Worcestshir" 🤣 aww...makes me remember my young days in the UK when I didn't know why people are missing out whole letters in their pronunciation
Thank you for this I never knew why the Crown Prince was called the Prince of Wales until Now Lol
WorsTecer, lol. Minor dig aside, this was a great summary with entertaining visuals. Good job 👌.
Having lived in aberffraw, sometimes in the dead of the night people claim they can hear distant war cries and sounds of age old language welsh being spoken, the square in aberffraw at night is scary
Ooh spooky
Aberffraw is scary at the best of times, 🤣🤣 roll on the disco nights, anyone remember that? XOXO
Exactly where is Aberffrow? Surely I now misspelled it.
0:41 are you trolling? Older brother? Invaders you mean. Cymru are the original inhabitants of these shores and also the first Christian nation. Wales had saints before England was a nation. So the prince of wales title is because there is a long history of real native welsh princes. Welsh for prince is tywysog tywys means guide.
this is why I like King Charles III he actually took pride in being Prince of Wales and learned about Wales.
Charles is a true king 👑👑
Would help if he was Welsh. No country should have to put up with having a figurehead foisted upon it by another in this day and age. It's disgusting.
He was as much use as chocolate teapot, learned about Wales? yeh right.....came here and shook a few hands from time to time, otherwise ignored us...
and the new one PW lived there briefly, too
@@drasticbuzzguy1887 we'll see.......
Thank you for the video 🤗
He's actually called 'Big Ears' (if he's lucky).
This was nicely done!
Its amazing how Charles has been prince for so long as a plot to assassin him occured at his investment ceremony
He actually said more assassinations' attempts happened on Diana than him, when Diana went to watch a polo match for the first time after marriage in 1981, Diana said she was sent back by the secret service because they found someone pouring poison into a cup that was supposed to be used for her.
It wasn't really a plot. Just some hotheads asking the leadership of the group "well, why don't we kill him?" To which the leader responded by slapping that suggestion down. Never went any further than that.
@@daviddavies3637 There is a video on youtube of bullets being fired at him. th-cam.com/video/aoaoVriyN54/w-d-xo.html
@@daviddavies3637 didn't someone blow themself up?
Who knew an ancient history documentary could be more dramatic than a reality TV show?
He’s part of the British royal family, not the English royal family
Very cool. Many thanx 👍👍
Wales are infact the oldest of the country's by about 10.000 years
Thank you I was just about the comment the same thing, he also brushed over the fact Llywelyn the Great fought the English and won most of the battles, and that Treaty of Worcester was the only way that Henry III could save face
Oldest by 10 years? That's an odd statement to make really. If we're talking about the 4 parts of the UK, and when they as that particular entity was a fully independent sovereign country:
England, 927 to 1707
Scotland, 843 to 1707
Wales 1216 to 1546
Northern Ireland has never been independent. It was created in 1921, and didn't exist before
Cornwall, 722 to 838
A few notes though. When the Norman invasion was over, the Normans didn't control all of what's now England. The Lake District wasn't in England yet for a start.
Edinburgh wasn't even in Scotland when Scotland was formed. It was in a neighbouring country of Lothian that was later absorbed.
Some of the dates are kinda arbitrary. Like there was an England arguably once Wessex had conquered Essex, Kent, Sussex, Middlesex and East Anglia. That was the first kingdom of the angles here. Conquering mercia (the Midlands) and Northumbria (the north of England), was a fair bit later. Similar with Wales, there was a Wales sure, but it only covered Gwynedd to start and then later on more of north and central Wales. I'm not sure if that ever covered as much as modern Wales.
@@aodhanmonaghan4664 How was Wales was independent and Sovereign between 1216 and 1546? They were subsumed into the English Crown in 1283 by Edward Longshanks. If we want to talk about Wales being independent and sovereign, I'd say we have to go back to Owain Fawr, Llewlyn's grandfather, who ruled Wales from like 1137 and 1170. His men nearly killed Henry II of England during an invasion one time, and Henry never seriously tried to conquer Wales after that.
@@SRosenberg203 a merger of crowns also happened with Scotland too. Whilst the king of England controlled the new territory it was still legally separate.
It's the same reason we don't say that the Electorate of Brunswick-Lüneburg was part of the Kingdom of Great Britain despite the fact they shared a monarch, and i suppose the nearest equivalent today could be how Australia is sovereign adjective yet shares a sovereign noun with the UK
*sad San Marino noises*
I enjoyed ur video. Keep up the good work.
Its like the heir to the iron throne is called prince or princess of dragonstone
i see where GRRM got his ideas from
Extremely interesting video. I must say it's nice to know where & how the Prince of Wales title began. I wonder how many Brutains know this history. Excellent😆👍✌❤
I can assure you that there are few million of us in Wales who know the history and despise it....centuries of oppression are not going to be forgiven....
Didnt rulers before Lleweyln the Great call themselves 'princeps' a title higher than king technically? And this passed of the English King leading Lleweyln to submit
Pissed*
Quite a lot to chew there, thanks for the explanation.
Worcester is pronounced 'Wooster' Don't feel bad, all Americans do the same, we have some strange spellings and pronunciations.
Maybe all Americans not from New England. For us it's Wuhstuh.
@@just_radical
In Massachusetts, maybe… but southern New England is mostly Rhotic.
@@sion8 I'm from Connecticut my friend. Never heard it said anything but Wuhstuh or Wuhstur
I'm from New York, and I lived in Worcester, Mass for a while, I heard a lot of wooster and wuhstah, depending on where you came from, and how thick your accent was
@@just_radical
I live in CT, so if anything I'd heard “wuhs-tur”. Because ⟨R⟩ is pronounced, hence rhotic.
Wow. Great video mate! Please make moreeee
As a Welsh person I’m disgusted that the English killed are royalty and placed their own children on the throne which meant the prince of wales doesn’t come from wales or even speak the language. This is why I dislike the english
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Stick to doing sheep mate 😂
Excellent research and knowledge
Very informative, well animated and entertaining. Including the ‘English’ pronunciations in particular The Treaty of ‘Wuster’
Thank you so much - I learned a lot.
Regards from Vienna, Austrie
I heard wales is where the real British lives. Every other place in England was invaded.
Yes, but if you go back far enough no one is truly “British”
@@AidenThisWay Indeed, for hundreds of years the ppl in England spoke French. Only the peasants spoke English
How far back in time? 3000 years ago? and I wonder how different they were back then? The Celts originated around Switzerland and spread out.
Just finished this ancient history documentary-now I’m ready to debate Plato over coffee.
6:32 - Note that the word "primer", when referring to a rundown of basic information, is pronounced with the vowel in the word "prim".
It is only when referring to an initial coat of paint that "primer" is pronounced with the vowel in "prime".
Thank you. It's a shame to hear this mispronounced so much, especially when we all learned to read from primers (prim'-ers). It's one of a long list of heteronyms we have to put up with in the English language.
I know in U.S English, it's pronounced as 'primmer'. I'm British and I've never said it that way. It's the same as a coat of paint.
Let me guess...English isn't your 1st language and you've been taught "American" rather than English....see I grew up in a City called Birmingham, you may have heard of it, right in the middle of England, and I can assure you that no English person would ever pronounce it in the way you so idiotically suggest...it's Primer as in Prime Minister, or Paint Primer...becuase you half-witted clown its root is that of being FIRST or Prime.
Now run along and keep your useless misinformation to yourself
I have a question, and don't hate on me for asking, but why isn't Ireland included?
owain is pronounced oh- wine and aberffraw is aber frow like brow
Good Show!
Really informative. I only have a comment to make that I know your voice is American but sorry to say you didn’t pronounce some words correctly but I understand our language isn’t that easy. Thank you so much for your video 👍
Well, British people don't actually pronounce words correctly either. In fact you make more mispronunciations imo.
@@jcruby2328 such as?
@@paulwhitston5784 such as water, wootah as you say, lol
@@jcruby2328 can’t say I’ve ever in my life heard it pronounced anything like that.
To highlight the “a” clearer we tend to pronounce it as if there’s an “r” directly after it but it’s not verbalised. I’ve only ever heard it pronounced like the word “porter”
Whenever I’ve heard an American pronounce it, it sounds more as if the “t” is replaced with a “d” (or more like a “dt”) with variations on the “a” depending on region.
Worcester’s always intrigued me regarding the American take on it. And Gloucester.
@@paulwhitston5784 Brits say wootah. Pronounces a like O. And you want to tell me that's the way to pronounce it?
thanks for video
It's too be noted that Wales was the first country that England annexed age colonised. We don't love England too much. At least, that's what I'm told as a foreigner here.
Oh the pronunciation!
Here's a mind job, I frequently shop where Owain Glyndŵr had his first Welsh parliament. I live in Wales, and much of my life happens around this area you spoke of.
It's a magical place. You should try visit sometime. I'll take you around to all the places
What the video doesn’t mention is Welsh king’s became English royalty through marriage not conquest and subsequently went onto to rule Britain, France and Ireland.
..and they became English. Tudors betrayed Wales.
@@circularcommunitiescymru9991 The dynasty all ended in the reign of Elizabeth I. By that time they made England the most powerful nation in the world.
And why doesn’t he have to attend an investiture ceremony before assuming the title?
1960 was in the 20th Century, NOT the 19th
2:56 bro why can’t Americans say Worcester? It’s not that hard.
Good video but a small correction. The name Worcester is pronounced "wooster" by english speakers.
Thank-you...
the prince of wales is also the 'Duke of Cornwall' another seperate realm of royality that was not the English royal family.. but that's a whole different kettle of fish most people don't want to talk about especially in 'British' politics.
He’s self-styled the duke of cornwall. He’s not the Duke of Kernow. Kernowyon celts will never willingly be subjects of a foreign monarch.
20th century, not 19th. For example, 1960 was in the 20th century; similarly, 2020 was in the 21st century. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the lesson.
Or maybe the movement started in victorian age
I learnt this when I was 5
Is there any current welsh royal establishment serving Wales?
No, it's foisted on us by England, a title they stole. They beat us in a battle centuries ago so to this day they keep the title and use it to show us who's running the show politically, socially etc. Colonial
Prince Charles is also Duke of Rothesay,Lord of the Isles, Earl of Carrick and High Steward of Scotland!!
He gains these Scottish titles as son of the Monarch!
Good. I taught he won the titles in some kind of merit based contest
And Baron of Renfrew. As well as Duke of Cornwall and Earl of Chester and since his father died he is now also Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merineth and Baron Greenwich
@@pedanticradiator1491 you'd think he was playing a game of Risk
@@pedanticradiator1491 Prince Edward is now the Duke of Edinburgh.
@@MotherDanu no he isn't. When the Queen dies and Charles succeeds it is believed that a new Dukedom of Edinburgh will be created for Edward
Why oh why do all Americans refere to the king/Queen of England and not of the UK there has not been a king or Queen of England since Queen Ann.
King Charles III
Rest In Peace Queen Elizabeth II
This was great
Wales and Scotland are both older than England. In fact, English people are not even from Britain, but the area around Germany and Denmark. The Anglo-Saxons came to Britain in the 5th century. The name England even comes from Angle.
Genetically English people are mainly celtish
What are you even saying. Just because the ruling class changed from original inhabitants to Romans, then Saxons, then partially to Scandinavians and then French doesn't mean the people are not British. It's not like after being conquered everyone just packs their things and leave.