I’ve been on the eset train for the entire season. The initial nerf reversions at the start of season 8 returned her kit’s numbers mostly to the point where she was at during the height of her popularity in season 6 after she first got the shield. So it doesn’t surprise me she performs well with an enchanter/burst mage focused kit with those numbers. I’m just not sure why she isn’t played more.
I ain't no pro on the game But i play eset 3 of 5 times if i get mid Lot of people still doesn't know that her ult heals and does more dmg when charged
Erlang shen and aracnee were predictible . I mean , aracnee is a really strong god in a random mates matchmaking scenario + auto items are great without boots . For erlang , well its erlang
I wonder how long it will be before erlang gets the ravana/nemesis treatment, getting changed from a warrior to an assassin? Hes mostly only played as an assassin now and it's been like that for a long time tbh
That kali build I already run on bakasura and have done for a long time, it's crazy strong the only thing I change sometimes is instead of hastened I sometimes replace it with atalantas but either way it's a very strong build
Nu Wa without boots and for more damage is extremely powerful. Nox too (mages) Thanatos, Mercury and Bakasura in assasins too with their movement speed
On your discussion about Gilgamesh, how do you feel about Spirit Robe? I have kind of lost faith in Magi's Cloak because of the small amount of protections, and would rather eat the CC and get mitigation instead. Just curious what you think on the item as a whole.
Just depends on the scenario. I think spirit robe is solid, but usually best when paired with more tank items. And in the regard, it also competes with pridwen, stat-wisr
Mantle is good as well cause you get 1 second cc immunity when you get low and you get so much defense. It also stuns enemies as well which is really solid but has a higher cost, rightfully
Isis has been good imo. But it also seems people have completely forgotten match up knowledge about her. The amount of assassins who blink on me and/or mages that aggress on me without knowing her huge lvl 2 power spike is insane. She can take alot of those early game fights and win. It seems like she just farms me free wins cuz people dont know she has an insane early game. But once people realize they cant w key her early game like you could a Baba per se, she will fall off the win rate ladder a bit.
W key into everything is just how us assassin's roll. Whether it's a good idea or not. Though with gods like Kali being top picks doesn't matter since we press 4 and now u can't just blow us up and have to deal with us. Or arachne where if we don't like your stun BS we can just ult and wait u out.
Smtg that you didn't point out is that some of the top gods have very low popularity (specially Nike/Bastet/Eset/Arachnee are near 100 in popularity) so their win rate may not be the best indicator of strength as only "specialists" play these gods. Maybe win rate isn't the best criteria (at least taken alone). If we averaged the win rate over the pick/ban rate (ofc not the best indicator but still) we may see another picture
I play jungle mainly almost exclusively. I'm not a "specialist" really in any God besides maybe Kali and Thanatos but I still do very well when I randomly pick up bastet and arachne. You don't have to main them to do good with them. Especially arachne she's stupid simple and bastet is just get in explode someone get out
Anhour is not anymore top since ult nerf . I would put artemis or iza for heavy objectives /tower pressure in mid /endgame (of course its for ranked not pro i only know diamond and master elo) Édit : personal opinion from someone who play a lot of different adc to not get bored with aa gods
I get this is based off win rate but isn’t there a way to structure it to account for harder gods? Tiamat is by far one of the best gods in the game still but her conquest winrate across all modes is 42%. Her winrate in diamond and masters aren’t much better either. However if you look at grandmaster she has a 100% win rate. In the right hands she is literally unstoppable. Her ban rate from diamond to grandmasters sits at about a 94% ban rate. Another god is anhur who is a difficult god and his stats reflect that, but he also has a 100% win rate in grand masters?? Hell even someone like Thoth has weird stats for grandmaster and diamond but has a 70% w/r in masters. Maybe do a version with ban rates or something? Idk just something to show that these gods are insanely strong if you get to an incredible level with them.
Thing is, People in Grandmasters don't need videos like these to know if a god is good/bad, and people in Bronze - Plat don't need to worry about just GMs, they gain more from a more broad stroke.
Ehhh Tiamat kit is just bloated and damage mitigation on a mage is stupid anyways it's the same reason zhong is stupid with his built in tank stats. Any God can be great if u master them to their absolute potential. Janus would be crazy if you somehow knew the perfect moments to do ult and portal and how to do them.
@@lawrencepurser6792 but if these gods are still amazing but the nature of their designs don’t allow for a high winrate there needs to be a way to include them because they’re still some of the best gods in the game. I mean Arachne is on this list and I’m sure she’s pretty good rn but no way in hell is she better than Set
She's Good no doubt but remember not everyone is good at her she have a lot of abilities and needs some long practice to figure her Play style she's one of top strongest
Btw, this vid might be inaccurate as the site was counting matches from last patch too and combining mid season with it. It was fixed today though, however it does mean that the stats have only started being counted today, meaning we have a week of statistics gone. Just thought I’d let you know.
She should get a rework because nothing about her kit has anything to do with her lore. She’s a generic basic attack assassin that plays like all of the basic attack assassins. I think they should make her pet focused with her spiders because right now she’s insanely boring
i like build kali more like a bruiser, substituting hastened katana for frostbound hammer (you still stick to your target but gives extra survivability)
@@arcstaff What about it? He just explained it. No attack speed rebuffs in the game stack. You can't stack midguard, witched blade, ichi, or manikens. It doesn't work. It only takes the highest debuff
Bluestone still better in the very early game but Warrior's Axe now gets better by leveling up Now its 35 + (1 per level) i think instead of just always 30 After some time passed Warrior's get way better than Bluestone, you will hit harder and heal a lot too
Because its upgrade sundering axe is just so good. It allows more tanky solo builds to deal considerable damadge whilst also provind some sustain. Its second upgrade heroes axe is also a pretty good pick up on the more supporty solos like guan yu as it helps squishies when they get dove and cc'd.
@@fourthcasper6161 no neither do i as its rarely built however it does has it's uses and if my memory is correct was built on guan in the spl. The problem with it is that its very niche item and is only really worth it on select gods such as guan who are more support/utility gods. Compared to the more agressive gods such as chu cu, osiris and wu kong heroes axe doesn't privide enough agressive stats to warrent picking up.
Mask start works better with more aggressive solos. You surprise the enemies with the the large power spike when compared to solo starter items and hopefully you can snowball the lane.
@@DanDennisRobloxman as soon as they notice though they can camp tower like a bitch unfortunately or attack u when u get low since u won't have a sustain starter
I do very well and those builds are not good enough in my opinion there’s others items that can give you the head in early game and will make you over power in late game . Didn’t liked the builds mentioned here
I like how you confidently say it’s super straight forward so I won’t go into it much before going into your by far most controversial build I’ve seen in ages. No attack speed on Bastet ? Lmao and Nike no attack speed to abuse the manikin . Interesting choices sir
I am a simple man. I see a well time-stamped video, I like.
I’ve been on the eset train for the entire season. The initial nerf reversions at the start of season 8 returned her kit’s numbers mostly to the point where she was at during the height of her popularity in season 6 after she first got the shield. So it doesn’t surprise me she performs well with an enchanter/burst mage focused kit with those numbers. I’m just not sure why she isn’t played more.
Cuz she sux lol
I ain't no pro on the game
But i play eset 3 of 5 times if i get mid
Lot of people still doesn't know that her ult heals and does more dmg when charged
Shes just not very fun to play imo
I think it's as simple as she's kinda boring + no reliable escape
I have her diamond, some people just aren’t skilled enough to use her well.
If you can get away with it in the early game, Hidden Blade Bastet SLAPS.
Definitely agree, hence why I said she can use every starter. Early game is a bit of a pain though
I did that yesterday and legitimately one shot a hou yi with just my jump.
Oof, this probably means that Erlang is probably gonna get hit with yet another nerf. Poor guy just can't catch a break.
I feel hammers are the best way to build Gilgamesh because they will do a ton of bonus damage when you use the 1.
Another amazing video from Duke
Erlang shen and aracnee were predictible . I mean , aracnee is a really strong god in a random mates matchmaking scenario + auto items are great without boots . For erlang , well its erlang
I wonder how long it will be before erlang gets the ravana/nemesis treatment, getting changed from a warrior to an assassin?
Hes mostly only played as an assassin now and it's been like that for a long time tbh
Dont mind me, just gonna try the kali and arachne builds on baka, thanks as always for the info Duke!
I'm surprised baka was not there. He's a auto attacker and has true damage for tanks. He also farms very well compared to the other auto attackers.
That kali build I already run on bakasura and have done for a long time, it's crazy strong the only thing I change sometimes is instead of hastened I sometimes replace it with atalantas but either way it's a very strong build
Nu Wa without boots and for more damage is extremely powerful. Nox too (mages)
Thanatos, Mercury and Bakasura in assasins too with their movement speed
On your discussion about Gilgamesh, how do you feel about Spirit Robe? I have kind of lost faith in Magi's Cloak because of the small amount of protections, and would rather eat the CC and get mitigation instead. Just curious what you think on the item as a whole.
Note: I don't play ranked conquest at the moment, but I have found much greater success with Spirit Robe over Magi's Cloak in casuals.
Just depends on the scenario. I think spirit robe is solid, but usually best when paired with more tank items. And in the regard, it also competes with pridwen, stat-wisr
Mantle is good as well cause you get 1 second cc immunity when you get low and you get so much defense. It also stuns enemies as well which is really solid but has a higher cost, rightfully
Predwin not working with Nike should be a crime…
What website did you used to find the winrate and pick/banrate of gods?
Isis has been good imo. But it also seems people have completely forgotten match up knowledge about her. The amount of assassins who blink on me and/or mages that aggress on me without knowing her huge lvl 2 power spike is insane. She can take alot of those early game fights and win.
It seems like she just farms me free wins cuz people dont know she has an insane early game. But once people realize they cant w key her early game like you could a Baba per se, she will fall off the win rate ladder a bit.
W key into everything is just how us assassin's roll. Whether it's a good idea or not. Though with gods like Kali being top picks doesn't matter since we press 4 and now u can't just blow us up and have to deal with us.
Or arachne where if we don't like your stun BS we can just ult and wait u out.
Smtg that you didn't point out is that some of the top gods have very low popularity (specially Nike/Bastet/Eset/Arachnee are near 100 in popularity) so their win rate may not be the best indicator of strength as only "specialists" play these gods. Maybe win rate isn't the best criteria (at least taken alone).
If we averaged the win rate over the pick/ban rate (ofc not the best indicator but still) we may see another picture
I play jungle mainly almost exclusively. I'm not a "specialist" really in any God besides maybe Kali and Thanatos but I still do very well when I randomly pick up bastet and arachne. You don't have to main them to do good with them. Especially arachne she's stupid simple and bastet is just get in explode someone get out
I havent got any notifications from your vids... has it been a while is is youtube back at it again...
What about adcs? Apart from sol what do u think are good?
I think anhur, hachi and rama are still good picks to carry
Rama has a hard time during the early game against the most aggresive adcs. Right now the top adcs are Chiron, Anhur and Heimdalr
Anhour is not anymore top since ult nerf . I would put artemis or iza for heavy objectives /tower pressure in mid /endgame (of course its for ranked not pro i only know diamond and master elo)
Édit : personal opinion from someone who play a lot of different adc to not get bored with aa gods
@@ans-dq9xh and sol on top as well she's an adc
@@ans-dq9xh artemis is too risky early game for me. She doesn't have a reliable lane clear/escape
@@fourthcasper6161 she is not risky at all now with his cd on his speed now . And the early damage are now good
Duke where do you get all the gods 3d models?
Darn, I don't play any of those! FeelsBadMan
Time to change that!
I get this is based off win rate but isn’t there a way to structure it to account for harder gods? Tiamat is by far one of the best gods in the game still but her conquest winrate across all modes is 42%. Her winrate in diamond and masters aren’t much better either. However if you look at grandmaster she has a 100% win rate. In the right hands she is literally unstoppable. Her ban rate from diamond to grandmasters sits at about a 94% ban rate. Another god is anhur who is a difficult god and his stats reflect that, but he also has a 100% win rate in grand masters?? Hell even someone like Thoth has weird stats for grandmaster and diamond but has a 70% w/r in masters. Maybe do a version with ban rates or something? Idk just something to show that these gods are insanely strong if you get to an incredible level with them.
Thing is, People in Grandmasters don't need videos like these to know if a god is good/bad, and people in Bronze - Plat don't need to worry about just GMs, they gain more from a more broad stroke.
Ehhh Tiamat kit is just bloated and damage mitigation on a mage is stupid anyways it's the same reason zhong is stupid with his built in tank stats.
Any God can be great if u master them to their absolute potential.
Janus would be crazy if you somehow knew the perfect moments to do ult and portal and how to do them.
@@lawrencepurser6792 but if these gods are still amazing but the nature of their designs don’t allow for a high winrate there needs to be a way to include them because they’re still some of the best gods in the game. I mean Arachne is on this list and I’m sure she’s pretty good rn but no way in hell is she better than Set
She's Good no doubt but remember not everyone is good at her she have a lot of abilities and needs some long practice to figure her Play style she's one of top strongest
@@yeetyeeterson1914 if a set and arachne both full build round the corner into each other my money is on the arachne Everytime
Okay a video Countering Top Gods now! Lol
Btw, this vid might be inaccurate as the site was counting matches from last patch too and combining mid season with it. It was fixed today though, however it does mean that the stats have only started being counted today, meaning we have a week of statistics gone. Just thought I’d let you know.
4/7 gods he brings up are still there
Tried the Bastet build. Penta kill first match.
Not sure how many more seasons we need until arachne gets a rework. That god meets all the criteria since forever.
Why does she need a rework?
I got her rank 20 and shes just fine
She doesn't need a full rework. She needs some touch ups on her passive , remove either her 1 or 2 and her ult.
She should get a rework because nothing about her kit has anything to do with her lore. She’s a generic basic attack assassin that plays like all of the basic attack assassins. I think they should make her pet focused with her spiders because right now she’s insanely boring
@@yeetyeeterson1914 facts.
I actually like this response
You have changed my mind
Ill even stop playin her to support this cause lol
I would like a slight rework to her 2. Other than that, she’s fine imo.
Are boots gone?
Love you duke
i like build kali more like a bruiser, substituting hastened katana for frostbound hammer (you still stick to your target but gives extra survivability)
Does Ichival stack with manikin de buff?
attack speed debuffs no longer stack, instead the greater debuff takes priority
@@spamtaco6487 midgard
@@arcstaff What about it? He just explained it. No attack speed rebuffs in the game stack. You can't stack midguard, witched blade, ichi, or manikens. It doesn't work. It only takes the highest debuff
@@c_f0rce Midgard is the only item that does stack with other slows, it´s in the item description
Only strongest ability AS debuff stacks with strongest item AS debuff.
11 n 0 with nike jung this season. Bruiser build works waaayyy better
What made Warrior's Axe replace Bluestone?
Bluestone still better in the very early game but Warrior's Axe now gets better by leveling up
Now its 35 + (1 per level) i think instead of just always 30
After some time passed Warrior's get way better than Bluestone, you will hit harder and heal a lot too
Because its upgrade sundering axe is just so good. It allows more tanky solo builds to deal considerable damadge whilst also provind some sustain. Its second upgrade heroes axe is also a pretty good pick up on the more supporty solos like guan yu as it helps squishies when they get dove and cc'd.
@@3443D tbh I never see heros axe
@@fourthcasper6161 no neither do i as its rarely built however it does has it's uses and if my memory is correct was built on guan in the spl. The problem with it is that its very niche item and is only really worth it on select gods such as guan who are more support/utility gods. Compared to the more agressive gods such as chu cu, osiris and wu kong heroes axe doesn't privide enough agressive stats to warrent picking up.
Are you from Germany?
No Odin?
I hope they don't turn Erlang into and assassin and instead make him more viable in the solo lane.
Where my boi cabroken at!?
No honorable mentions??
For all noobs out there glad to see that mages and hunters don't make the majority of the list. Warriors and Assassins have always done damage
Kind one
13:40 WYSI
Can I just say I think the mask start in solo is bad I don't really see the whole point I win solo lane without ever doing it....
Mask start works better with more aggressive solos. You surprise the enemies with the the large power spike when compared to solo starter items and hopefully you can snowball the lane.
@@DanDennisRobloxman as soon as they notice though they can camp tower like a bitch unfortunately or attack u when u get low since u won't have a sustain starter
@@thedoomslayer5863 still though. The high pressure allows you to get scorpion and totem and possibly invade without too much resistance
Untradable , u can pick the starter u want and you have 300 gold left .
You just have to wait a gank , you are way too strong in early , with Hercules u can 1v2
Arachne and Kali are so cheese man. Whenever they are picked in ranked Im just sleep so boring and annoying.
Says the Loki. That's fucking GOLD lmao
Lmao as a loki main you are cappin right now 🤣 loki is the most cheese god
You can also build eset supp
I do very well and those builds are not good enough in my opinion there’s others items that can give you the head in early game and will make you over power in late game . Didn’t liked the builds mentioned here
I play Arthur
AHOY!
I like how you confidently say it’s super straight forward so I won’t go into it much before going into your by far most controversial build I’ve seen in ages. No attack speed on Bastet ? Lmao and Nike no attack speed to abuse the manikin . Interesting choices sir
Bastet is ability based why would u want attack speed in her the hell?
@@thedoomslayer5863 fr i never heard of a AS bastet lol
Why would you ever build attack speed on either of those characters
I stopped watching after the sol builds
Why does cu chulain suck so bad nooooow!!! And why is cabroken still so frigging broken!!!!! Nerf his damage!!
when are people gonna realize that daddy vulcan is meta worthy
1 brutalize and ur back to base for 30s 🤣