Great video Driver53, that’s pretty much the results I got when I did some testing, so good to confirm. Yes Elm and Oak have always been high volume producing trees, but as they are such a PITA to log and transport, I think I’m going to stick to Lodgepole or Poderossa because they are quicker and easier to transport.
Surely growth rates are a consideration too. Londgepole Pine is 13 months to full growth and most of the others are 24 months, so over time your gonna get more lodgepole for your bucks.
I didn't consider growth rate as there are thousands of trees already on the map. If growing your own the lodgepole pine has the shortest growth duration to full maturity.
@@Driver53Gaming Yeah about 20,000 they reckon but if you are playing with just say one plot (Farm Manager) in theory they are not yours to cut. I have already replanted the whole of plot 36 with mainly Lodgepole and the remainder Ponderosa and are already beginning to cut those too. Really love your vids and want to thank you for all your hard work and efforts to make things easy for us budding farmers and now loggers.
You'll go insane cutting up Elm trees. It's best to just get a big skidder and drag the entire tree to the pond. Or, better yet, just grow them on the banks of the pond and when you cut them they'll go straight into the pond. You can test this by buying large Elms from the landscape menu and placing them on the beach. A $4,000 tree will net you 9,000 L or about $29,000 in planks.
i use that wood chipper/ tree eater with the capacity of 50k to get rid of small or weird trees as well as stump and was able to get 31k liters of wood chip out of one of those elms, just insane.
Yea because something else I found out in testing, the sawmill doesn’t care what lengths your logs are, whole tree or cut into lengths it gives nearly the same volume. I tried it with a Lodgepole got 7071 (not delimbed) for the whole tree, or the same tree cut into 6M lengths got 6964.
anyone else notice you cant lift over 200KG but if you hold a stick you can push all your log pile logs around no matter the weight? also you can litteraly stick the stick in between other logs and pry it as if like a lever.. it works to move heavier piles. kind of nice it sort of flimsy i use it to straitwn my wood piles on thw intricate detailed parts where my tractors cant reach without disturbing the hole pile. it feel like working a field if you get a big tipper and your tractor bucket cut all logs with harvester to size set aside i seperate pile all tree tips branches od size cuts keep same size together ghen use bucket to lift and dump into tipper trailer unless theres a back door or something low you can dump in beside the bucket. felt like i was really remodeling and cleaning a field to prep for land scape lol
Since you have full grow specimens of each tree types, could you possibly figure out the diameter of each tree to see what tree might be best for each harvester size?
It is the big bag handler from the CSZ pack. Easiest tool by far for handling logs. Al you have to do is push them in a neat pile and with a wheelloader you can lift the entire pile up. A big telehandler can do it too. If you dont have a nice even pile it can start to shake and glitch out though.
I wonder if the quality of the ground affects the trees density or does just the sales bonus apply if you go through the precision farming steps? Ideally you want the trees that produce the most density, but I'm curious about this topic I'll have to test it by making a grass field and putting fertilizers ETC into it, and then planting a tree in it and then off of the soil some where.
How does your volume in this test compare to the volume of the trees that you just showed into the container? I do realize yhat you sell containers but all that work to cut up and transport. Once again thank you for all your hard work.
Hey Driver, it seems to me you put a lot of work and thought into this. Very helpful and thanks for that. I am wondering though, that it would be better to take one log of the same length of each type of tree. I feel there are variations on total length, how high/low you cut them to the ground and such. It is a little nitpicking, but would make it more accurate.
Great suggestion. Let me explain why I decided to do it this way. The tree trunks are shaped differently. Lodgepole have a slight reduction in trunk diameter from bottom to top while spruce start out very wide but taper down a significant amount at the top. If I only used the bottom 6 meters of a tree it wouldn't be a true representation of the entire tree.
I've seen someone else try selling them and the value was basically nothing. Probably either due to not being implemented or to discourage players from trying.
@LordOOTFD yea, selling rate isn't good, the developers made it this way.I'm not sure if one of my mods is affecting it but I get about 20k+ liters per redwood tree.
how do these buildings for production begin making profit i clicked on sell wood and got 0 dollars vs the saw mill.. if they dont pay for wood and they just take a supply for making furniturw why is there a note saying (sell wood) like the saw mill.. my stats show negative income for maintanemce i think of building for carpentry and ive since made nothing on carpentry if amything its costing money so whats the point... i changed to sell furniture ive changed to store it no profits its costed me my next upgraded forestry tool twice now.. in woof trying to get it working and its not working. how is it suppose to make a profit if the damn thing just steals logs makes furniture and doesnt share profits..?
Not really realistic this, as the sawmill makes planks and construction materials which need to be long straight wood. Pine, spruce ect oak is now good for that. Should be make into the game that the sawmill production takes long tall skinny trees and oak and elm is accepted at the flooring factory and furniture shop
Yeah. It's not realistic at all but this is how FS22 has always worked. It looks like the game gives a penalty to the price per liter of a tree if it isn't straight rather than giving a reduction to the usable liters which would make more sense and be more consistent. As it is now, dragging whole Elm trees into the pond is the most effective way to fill up the sawmill.
First good try to catch them all . Second where is the excel seed to see the exact numbers because I forget until the end of video . And this and last because I don't own the platinum edition . If you don't buy the old sawmill when you sell this thinks you take less money for heavy stuff and more money for the straight stuff ?? When you have of course you need litters but to buy it you need money so you must to do another video with this parameters and also show us kg vs money to sheet please .
@@aquanick2001 Have you tried all of the production chains? I've been hoping that there is some hidden divisor on the wood turner, and sale prices which might make it less of a cruel joke at some process.
@@LordOOTFD have I tried putting deadwood into any of the production chains, no I haven’t. I thought maybe it would make sense if deadwood at least gave the same for wood chips as a healthy tree, but nope wood chip output is dismal as well…..whole large tree made like 23 litres of chips.
@@aquanick2001 What a waste of game-potential - 'Dead wood' is not necessarily bad/rotten wood, so they should have added some good use ..at least as firewood?!
@@SirAser.F__k.you.Google still works as woodchips in reality, once it’s chipped it doesn’t really matter what it was to start with. Or like you say Firewood, deadwood still burns. But Giants just make it worthless in the game.
Now we need a combo video that compares growth times and literage for the different trees
Great video Driver53, that’s pretty much the results I got when I did some testing, so good to confirm.
Yes Elm and Oak have always been high volume producing trees, but as they are such a PITA to log and transport, I think I’m going to stick to Lodgepole or Poderossa because they are quicker and easier to transport.
Surely growth rates are a consideration too. Londgepole Pine is 13 months to full growth and most of the others are 24 months, so over time your gonna get more lodgepole for your bucks.
I didn't consider growth rate as there are thousands of trees already on the map. If growing your own the lodgepole pine has the shortest growth duration to full maturity.
@@Driver53Gaming Yeah about 20,000 they reckon but if you are playing with just say one plot (Farm Manager) in theory they are not yours to cut. I have already replanted the whole of plot 36 with mainly Lodgepole and the remainder Ponderosa and are already beginning to cut those too. Really love your vids and want to thank you for all your hard work and efforts to make things easy for us budding farmers and now loggers.
Another great video! Thanks! I'm going through them all and learning a lot from your videos.
Now I know which tree to replant always Thank you 🙏
Thank you for this!
What is the easy grab utensil? Is that PC only? I currently use a big bag handler but that looks better.
I would like to know that as well
It is the big bag handler in the CSZ pack.
@@Driver53Gaming okay thanks I’ll take a look in the CSZ pack, had it on 19 but hadn’t bothered installing it on 22
You'll go insane cutting up Elm trees. It's best to just get a big skidder and drag the entire tree to the pond.
Or, better yet, just grow them on the banks of the pond and when you cut them they'll go straight into the pond.
You can test this by buying large Elms from the landscape menu and placing them on the beach. A $4,000 tree will net you 9,000 L or about $29,000 in planks.
i use that wood chipper/ tree eater with the capacity of 50k to get rid of small or weird trees as well as stump and was able to get 31k liters of wood chip out of one of those elms, just insane.
Yea because something else I found out in testing, the sawmill doesn’t care what lengths your logs are, whole tree or cut into lengths it gives nearly the same volume. I tried it with a Lodgepole got 7071 (not delimbed) for the whole tree, or the same tree cut into 6M lengths got 6964.
@@aquanick2001 Each cut apparently costs you a few liters of wood.
@@Hedgehobbit perhaps a little yes, I think most of the loss would be down to the whole tree not being delimbed.
anyone else notice you cant lift over 200KG but if you hold a stick you can push all your log pile logs around no matter the weight? also you can litteraly stick the stick in between other logs and pry it as if like a lever.. it works to move heavier piles. kind of nice it sort of flimsy i use it to straitwn my wood piles on thw intricate detailed parts where my tractors cant reach without disturbing the hole pile. it feel like working a field if you get a big tipper and your tractor bucket cut all logs with harvester to size set aside i seperate pile all tree tips branches od size cuts keep same size together ghen use bucket to lift and dump into tipper trailer unless theres a back door or something low you can dump in beside the bucket. felt like i was really remodeling and cleaning a field to prep for land scape lol
What attachment do you have on the front of the wheel loader? Is it a mod? Is it on PS5?
Edit:just found out deeper in the comments
Hi Driver, I would like to ask how do you turn on "Diameter" option in that info window in bottom right corner? Btw great wideo
For these testing videos I was using another PC mod called Info Display Extension.
@@Driver53Gaming thanks a lot ❤️
Since you have full grow specimens of each tree types, could you possibly figure out the diameter of each tree to see what tree might be best for each harvester size?
The Spruce is the largest and cannot be harvested with the starting harvester. Didn't have any problem with them when using the Rottne.
Very useful to know, would love to also see some actual numbers for how many liters you got from each tree.
I'll be posting the spreadsheet on my discord soon.
Is the pc only!? Can’t seem to find the lodge pole pines on Console….
This is for the Platinum Expansion map Silverrun Forest.
Where’s the excel sheet, can’t seem to find the final numbers
I'll be posting these in my discord soon. Have three more videos scheduled using the spreadsheet so I will be updating it as they release.
Which tool do you use on the loader? Is that a mod?
It is the big bag handler from the CSZ pack. Easiest tool by far for handling logs. Al you have to do is push them in a neat pile and with a wheelloader you can lift the entire pile up. A big telehandler can do it too.
If you dont have a nice even pile it can start to shake and glitch out though.
What is that grab you use???
It is the big bag handler part of the CSZ pack.
What is the name of the mod you using with the wheelloader?
Ot is the big bag handler. Part of the CSZ pack.
what is the name of the mod for the wheel loader attachment? i have seen a few people use it and would love to find it.
It is the big bag handler. It is part of the CSZ pack.
I wonder if the quality of the ground affects the trees density or does just the sales bonus apply if you go through the precision farming steps? Ideally you want the trees that produce the most density, but I'm curious about this topic I'll have to test it by making a grass field and putting fertilizers ETC into it, and then planting a tree in it and then off of the soil some where.
Nope. You can grow a tree on concrete and it will be the same.
What was the mod ypu used to pick up the logs
Big bag lifter in the CSZ pack
Elm and Oak are a lot of work though.
Now that we know $$ per tree, and we know how many Ls are in them... tree $/l
What that thing you picked up that wood with
Are you using a mod to show total capacity of old sawmill? On my ps5 it just shows amount but not how much total capacity
I am using a PC mod called Info Display Extension to see a bit more info when I do testing.
That would be nice to have on ps5
@@lancepants28 I agree. The info is in the game but unfortunately needs a script to display it.
How does your volume in this test compare to the volume of the trees that you just showed into the container? I do realize yhat you sell containers but all that work to cut up and transport. Once again thank you for all your hard work.
They are similar. They won't be exact though.
Hey Driver, it seems to me you put a lot of work and thought into this. Very helpful and thanks for that.
I am wondering though, that it would be better to take one log of the same length of each type of tree. I feel there are variations on total length, how high/low you cut them to the ground and such. It is a little nitpicking, but would make it more accurate.
Great suggestion. Let me explain why I decided to do it this way. The tree trunks are shaped differently. Lodgepole have a slight reduction in trunk diameter from bottom to top while spruce start out very wide but taper down a significant amount at the top. If I only used the bottom 6 meters of a tree it wouldn't be a true representation of the entire tree.
@@Driver53Gaming That makes sense. You did tell about the various diameters in the vid. I think I did not think of that.
great video Driver, thanks a lot for your effort. btw have you tested if the size matter when tossing in the pond?
Shorter trees do have a lower volume.
Have you a new growth Sequoia for reference? Old growth or original map is very poor but new growth?
whats the mod called for your wheel loader tool i see it no were easy grab isnt a thing
csz pack
Hello. What is the height of a fully grown Stone Pine?
Thanks for the video
What map are you on?
This is Silverrun Forest. It is the map that comes with the Platinum Expansion.
What map are you playing?
Silverrun Forest the new map that is part of the Platinum Expansion.
What about the redwood? I know that you shouldn't do that but still it's kinda interesting how they would compare to the others.
They are barely better than a deadwood. Not worth the effort IMO.
I've seen someone else try selling them and the value was basically nothing. Probably either due to not being implemented or to discourage players from trying.
@LordOOTFD yea, selling rate isn't good, the developers made it this way.I'm not sure if one of my mods is affecting it but I get about 20k+ liters per redwood tree.
Great vid. What wheel loader acc
Attachment are you using?
@@stephensmith1012 it is the big bag handler in the CSZ pack.
Nathan like your video
how do these buildings for production begin making profit i clicked on sell wood and got 0 dollars vs the saw mill.. if they dont pay for wood and they just take a supply for making furniturw why is there a note saying (sell wood) like the saw mill.. my stats show negative income for maintanemce i think of building for carpentry and ive since made nothing on carpentry if amything its costing money so whats the point... i changed to sell furniture ive changed to store it no profits its costed me my next upgraded forestry tool twice now.. in woof trying to get it working and its not working. how is it suppose to make a profit if the damn thing just steals logs makes furniture and doesnt share profits..?
What about the Giant sequoia?
Not really realistic this, as the sawmill makes planks and construction materials which need to be long straight wood. Pine, spruce ect oak is now good for that. Should be make into the game that the sawmill production takes long tall skinny trees and oak and elm is accepted at the flooring factory and furniture shop
Yeah. It's not realistic at all but this is how FS22 has always worked.
It looks like the game gives a penalty to the price per liter of a tree if it isn't straight rather than giving a reduction to the usable liters which would make more sense and be more consistent.
As it is now, dragging whole Elm trees into the pond is the most effective way to fill up the sawmill.
Tyvm
First good try to catch them all . Second where is the excel seed to see the exact numbers because I forget until the end of video . And this and last because I don't own the platinum edition . If you don't buy the old sawmill when you sell this thinks you take less money for heavy stuff and more money for the straight stuff ?? When you have of course you need litters but to buy it you need money so you must to do another video with this parameters and also show us kg vs money to sheet please .
This video is part of a full series looking at the Platinum Expansion. The sheets can be found in my discord server linked in the video description.
You should try this with deadwood, I've been wondering if there is ANY case where it's worth the time to harvest.
Deadwood is not worth it, not even for wood chips…….
@@aquanick2001 Have you tried all of the production chains? I've been hoping that there is some hidden divisor on the wood turner, and sale prices which might make it less of a cruel joke at some process.
@@LordOOTFD have I tried putting deadwood into any of the production chains, no I haven’t.
I thought maybe it would make sense if deadwood at least gave the same for wood chips as a healthy tree, but nope wood chip output is dismal as well…..whole large tree made like 23 litres of chips.
@@aquanick2001 What a waste of game-potential - 'Dead wood' is not necessarily bad/rotten wood, so they should have added some good use ..at least as firewood?!
@@SirAser.F__k.you.Google still works as woodchips in reality, once it’s chipped it doesn’t really matter what it was to start with. Or like you say Firewood, deadwood still burns. But Giants just make it worthless in the game.
The most "Liters"? The most kittens?
Liters for volume. Litter for number of kittens.
Stone Pine is a lot higher.