Annulments
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2017
- This sermon is about the beauty of marriage by way of the pain of annulments, and it is sure to be controversial. It might sound excessively traditional, but it is based on a key line that I forgot to quote from Pope John Paul II. He said that for a declaration of nullity to be granted, run-of-the-mill difficulties in marriage were not sufficient, but rather, “real incapacity is to be considered [for an annulment analysis] only when an anomaly of a serious nature is present”-Pope John Paul II’s exhortation on Canon 1095, written on 25 February 1987. One example of “an anomaly of a serious nature” would be the couple’s decision during engagement to have no children. That is, they were not just using the Pill (albeit an abortifacient that kills and also a mortal sin for both spouses in the marriage), but rather they had an absolute refusal to be open to children. Such an inherent rejection of children from the wedding day onwards would render an attempted-Catholic marriage nothing (null) from the get-go. Another example of this key line by Pope John Paul II on a declaration of nullity only being considered for “an anomaly of a serious nature” would be the implicit and hidden rejection of the exclusivity of one spouse (usually an unrevealed rejection of monogamy from engagement onwards.) This would have to be something more grave than even several acts of infidelity during the marriage. Again, infidelity (including pornography, see Matthew 5:28) is mortal sin, but it doesn’t break the bond made at the altar, for only death can break that bond. If a man got married, secretly planning to leave his wife in a few years, this marriage should probably be retroactively declared “null” by the Tribunal. (The Tribunal is the marriage arm of a Catholic diocese.)
The point is that ordinary arguments or even lack-of-happiness in a Catholic marriage does not warrant an investigation as to whether there was lack of due discretion in the formation of a Catholic wedding bond. The bond was indeed ratified at the words of the couple at the altar on their wedding day; those bonds were consummated several hours later at the hotel. This bond is to be favored by canon lawyers and priests, without any excessive retroactive analysis of the internal disposition of the two spouses during their engagement unless they are highly unusual Catholics, unless there is “an anomaly of a serious nature” as Pope John Paul II wrote regarding Canon 1095 on 25 February 1987. I have known such highly unusual Catholics whose attempt at marriage does indeed fit the bill of being “an anomaly of serious nature.” They probably deserved their attempted marriage to be declared null, and they received it. However, the thrust of this sermon is to push against the sheer numbers that make a mockery of marriage and do not favor the bond of even the best Catholic families. Trust me: I side with all the Popes and saints of history. Most importantly, I side with Jesus Christ who said: “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.”-St. Luke 16:18. The photo is a picture I took at St. John the Baptist narthex in New Orleans, one of the many saints who died defending the bond of marriage. This sermon was released on the feast of his decapitation.
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I am working at putting my Catholic marriage back together after my civil divorce. I fear God and I am in love with my wife. I will work at saving those two kids who stood before God and said "until death do us part"! Be with us Lord!
How are your efforts going?
I’m discerning whether to allow the annulment and let go of my husband who divorced me or whether I want to fight the annulment and try to say we do have a sacramental bond we just need healing.
@@debbiekaren7058 if you guys have spouses who left you then you probably aren’t responsible for their actions right? This probably only matters unless you’ll be tempted to remarry since they left. If it’s God’s will for you guys to be together, you can pray, and you won’t need to coerce the other person. I’m sorry this happened to you guys :/
I have been separated for 25 years, and the reason why I don't want to get into a relationship because my marriage is not annulled yet. And I have 2 weddings: Civil and Church wedding. And when I heard this sermon. I think I' d rather stay like this, any way My children are all grown-ups. I 'll just continue serving the Lord thru singing in the Mass.
Thank you Fr.
Thank goodness I found this video. I was listening to the latest video from Timothy Gordon and I was worried that my marriage was invalid. I’m a cradle Catholic but my husband was never baptized nor had he ever been in a church or raised with any kind of faith.
He was married (at his Aunt’s house) by a JP. They were married for 2 years and divorced. I met him about 3 years later. After we met he asked to go to Mass with me. He decided to become Catholic and then we got engaged. He was baptized and brought into the Church shortly before we were married. He was able to obtain the Petrine Privilege since neither of them were baptized in his first marriage and he wanted to become Catholic.
5 kids and 27 years later we are still going strong. Before we got married I told him, “Make sure this is what you truly want because us Catholics believe in only taking one trip down the aisle.”
Thank you so much for your testimony
This was very helpful.
As Fr said at the end, I believe the vast majority of marriages in our time are made with poor formation, including between Catholics raised in the NO and a corrupts culture.
It seems to me their should be a more comprehensive preparation for marriage. I feel divorce really hurts children and that's my objection to divorce
I agree.
Wedding vows to each other are very serious.
If you don't really mean them,you have no business making them.
How about the fact that for the most of the history of Catholic sacramental marriage there was no such thing as a formal comprehensive preparation?
Chris H yes and we need to focus on the sacraments and make sure they are the understood and their serious way to heaven. The family suffers when we don't support the sacrament of marriage
Speaking as a product of divorce it absolutely does hurt children. Visitation with your father every other weekend is not enough to instill masculinity. This is doubly so when your father doesn't actually be a father. I suspect in my case it was at least partly because he didn't want to risk his visitation rights but also partly because he had an absent alcoholic father himself. Converting at 33 (I'm 36 now) and realizing just how lacking I am in masculinity has been a massive struggle for me. I pray to Almighty God that if I get married I can break this cycle and be the strongest masculine influence on my children possible but I've got a long ways to go in instilling this virtue.
@@hicnar I would say for most of history the perparation was the healthy marriage of their parents. The state of unhealthy marriages is a fairly recent phenomenon and probably one of the reasons marriage prep was instantiated.
I have not listened to this sermon yet, but I know who the priest is and I trust him.
Scanning the comments, I have not noticed an emphasis on the effect on children of divorce and remarriage with or without a declaration of nullity. It is devastating. We just past another Christmas season, and it is horrendous to hear and see how children, even adult children, suffer when they have to go spend half the day with Mom and her new man, and half the day with Dad and his new woman.
It's truly sickening. Parents need to stay together because the children need them to. Furthermore, they gave their word that they would remain together until death parts them.
Watching these middle-aged and even older adults acting like lovesick adolescents is stomach turning. Fortunately their relationships often last as long as a lot of those of high school students.
LOL but sad
The adult kids chose one parent. The other one is largely neglected, sometimes cut off entirely, due to alienation, and busy modern life, and after 18 the obligations to visit end. It is like a hole in your soul. The wife gone a relief: The children gone is like they stole all that was good in your heart. 😭
@@Frank020 : yes, I know the feeling of 'they stole all that was good in your heart'... keep trying to reach out to them as much as you can. Maybe one day they will need you.
This sermon is SO TIMELY, all glory to God its here for all to see....Tim Gordon JUST did a video on this very topic a few days ago.
But then how do you procede? Do you go to the Bishop (ie, write a letter) or the Tribunal of the diocese you live in and present the particulars of your situation for their judgment? Most people go straight to the civil divorce process off the bat which, if I'm not mistaken, Fr Ripperger says that's a repudiation of marriage and basically something we're not allowed to do.
I trust this Priest’s teaching. I left religion completely when I saw too many wrong things. But when I truly was enlightened by God. I realized we’re all human. So I began to pray and hold tight on my understanding from our Holy Spirit teaching. Our Holy Spirit helps me to confirm which teaching belong to God and which is not from God. Human are good at making up religion and changing God’s teaching. This’s why God said his sheep will know his voice. When one devoutly obey his commandments and seek for his help with a sincere heart. God would definitely guide and discipline them with love. I believe the 1 Commandments is so crucial to keep!!! Because the rest of the Commandments will follow if we focus on the first one. God bless.
I think your right. My Orthodox Priest said I could marry a divorced unbeliever if she came to the church and was baptized saying that she was never married all those years and with 3 children - just considered as "living in sin" as was not married in the church. My conscience over the next few weeks was tweaked and I felt God telling me about His rules from the gospel that mentions marriage is for all - even unbelievers as is divorce for them so I didn't go ahead with it. Im sure was right decision...
Like my daughter told me , when the priest witnessed her marriage, and helped her get her annulment ( he left a loophole in the Sacrament of Marriage). Oh! the rotting fruits of Vatican II.
Now I no longer feel unsure about my annulment. Thank you Fr
I am a man who went through a horrific and abusive marriage. I was told I was not loved and was despised. I suffered for years with terrible anxiety attacks and depression. My wife felt a longing for female companionship and I was relegated to living in the basement. We had three children.
I went through two years of pain in seeking my annulment. My then-wife kept throwing up roadblocks, skipping appointments with the diocese where she was living and causing delays to punish me for acting on the annulment. She left the Catholic Church years before.
When I was interviewed by the diocese where she was living and by my own advocate, I was asked several times why I waited as long as I did. I said because I knew God hates divorce and I had children.
I met a wonderful Catholic woman who went through a divorce from an abusive alcoholic (he died some years ago).
And through it all, I follow Jesus and am joyful to be Catholic.
Everyone’s story is different.
That sounds like a cross
God will bless you 10000 times. Thanks for speaking the truth. I just wish everyone hears this
Great Talk, though at 18:55 when mental disorder are mentioned it would have been useful to mention that the mental disorders must be severe and relate only to inability to make a vow on their wedding day, or inability to perform the marriage act. The application of mental incapacity to interpersonal frictions is where most of the false annulments.
I think of Rochester's first wife, the unfortunate Bertha, who severe mental illness was not revealed before marriage.
What a great sermon. Thank you.
I so appreciate this priests talk. So wish more priests would believe this
I was gone from the church for ALL of my adult life..I have been married multiple times..never in the Church..I have for the most part made a mockery of marriage...I am back in the church, by Gods grace alone..because I sure cant explain it...I have been told i can simply do away with all of my marriages by filing wrong form papers..I opt out..it is scary to me..I would rather accept to be alone..
Unfortunately I’ve seen several people who were married Catholics get divorced and then seek an Annulment. Once they were granted an Annulment they remarried a second time in the Catholic Church but ended up divorced again. Tribunal offices hand out Annulments line candy.
second marriages have about 60% divorce rate, not surprised second marriages failed
Amazing...love this priest. I, as a Catholic, had a civil marriage to another Catholic not knowing it was grave matter. This civil marriage ended due to my radical reversion to God and His holy Church (thank you, Lord, for this cross!)Now, if it is God's will, I have a chance to marry a good Catholic man in the Church, and after hearing this sermon, I will feel confident that I will not be committing adultery. 3 Hail Mary's for this beloved priest. Thank you, Fr.
Why not see about remarrying the Catholic man, especially if you had children together. They would be so happy to get Mom and Dad back together.
Thank you Fr.
Did you got married?
@@sharelletemaat938 We never had children together
@@m.935 No, and by choice. I want to grow in closer union with Christ so it is better to not be married.
Years ago, annulments were very rare, now annulments are common and easy to get it. RCC seminaries have taught spurious teachings that are based on psychological babble. Now divorced and remarried Catholics are allowed to receive Holy Communion...according to the Papal encyclical Amoris Laeticia...very sad and beyond tragic. All these different rules!
I thought I would be married for life but I divorced, for over 20 years now. The thing is I could probably get an annulment and try again but I don't trust that it would work the second time around either. I won't marry again, one failed marriage is enough for me.
Jo Storz true
Stay chaste, may St. Joseph guide you.
Statistically, second marriages fail 80% of the time.
Moses introduced divorce due to the lack of ability of his flock to remain faithful - the Church does have the power to retain or to forgive sins on this earth in God's name
Sounds like marriage is made by God but annulment is man made. Is annulment mentioned in the Bible, if so where? Also, what about the children, are they considered illegitimate after the annulment?
No, the children are not considered illegitimate after an annulment
I have a question, what if you have married and after I got married find out the husband has some sexual imponten issue and none fertil to reproduce children. do you think is fear for a 18 years old Virgen bride. to stick with this lair since the beginning? I think is not fear wasn't right. I got civil divorced i and after almost 30th years I filed for an unnulled why after so long because I thought my life was ruined and I didn't care if I there was an unnullement or not. I fear God because the church condemned you . but i dont think is righto live single and been married at the same time. I became a religious, but I came out to deal with this problem and still is not solved. he have several relationship after we got divorced and now he married. but I carried with all the sins and curse. can you please help me to brake this bounds. I have been living in chastity ever since, I have confessed my sins and received conversation.but im not happy thinking about that matter is holding me back like a curse can you help me to set me free I'm asking with tears in my eyes. thank you may God bless you.
According to church Canon law this would be grounds for a declaration of annuluty if it can be proved the groom was impotent before you the Catholic sacramental marriage took place. If the man knew this and purposely deceived you. Plus if you were never able to consummate your marriage right away you could have brought this matter to your pastor or the bishop
If this happened later in your marriage that is part of the "in sickness or in health" part of the vow you may have taken
I pray you are well 🙏
Best to talk to a Latin mass priest.
My God thank you!!
This homily was clear as mud. I don’t mean to be critical, but this is an important issue which needs precision, charity, and clarity. Try again.
Wow - great talk on Marriage and I'm not Catholic - well done!
The link doesn’t work! :( what’s the name of the podcast?
Excellent!
Such truth thank youx
Thank you
To allow faithful Catholics to remain in some state of spiritual limbo through 'no fault' of their own perhaps shows some degree of insensitivity towards the faithful as well as an intransigence towards interpretation of God's law through Jesus - especially if souls are driven away and lost that could have been brought back into the fold
Father forgot that Christ said there is only one reason for divorce and thats unchastity if either spouse is unfaithful .
Paul McGorian, that is not what Jesus meant. In the original language it means marriages that weren't valid. The Jews where marrying family members against the Jewish law. He did not mean adultery
Paul you are correct and is ... but Paul you must also not take the Gospel to fit your believe. Remember Hosea 3. We all are unfaithful but imagine with if God divorces us when we are unfaithful to him and He never takes is back.
Paul McGorian so says your KJV
Paul, you should stop reading the protestant perversions and start reading the Douay-Rheims (Mat 5v32, 19v9). The one reason for divorce is not *adultery* (the sin a woman commits after she is married) but *fornication* (the sin a woman commits before she is married). Under the law of Moses, if a man took a wife, only to discover that she was not a virgin (ie. that she had committed fornication), then it was lawful for the man to divorce her. This was Joseph's first intention after he discovered that Mary (his betrothed wife) was pregnant and before he discovered that she was pregnant not by fornication but by the Holy Ghost (Mat 1v18-19). Jesus had to live with the stigma of being "born of fornication" (John 8v41) even though he wasn't.
@@DanielJohn2300 Yes, true. The greek work is fornication/harlotry not adultery so your right. I took it to mean having sex with someone else during the betrothal period (before living together) but not being a virgin before agreeing to marriage also makes sense and so both situations would be right I guess as once they marry would still be shown not to be a virgin and so divorce is valid for both cases.
lots of people are not suited for marriage, they need to discern if it's truly their calling
Yes, given the high rate of divorce among even Catholics after all the months of preparation and other requirements, I would agree.
Women act as “dogs” also - not just men
What's the name of this priest? I recognize his voice but can't recall his name.
Hope is not too late. Fr. Dave Nix. An amazing priest best known as padre peregrino. God bless
What about if one spouse were cheating but they are happy now together…
If they didn't divorce, it is a moot point.
Why does he keep saying "this chapel"??
The words “bed, board, & dwelling” are not even mentioned in Catholic preparation classes.
if you are not in a relationship or totally single and converted and committed to church even you haven't received an unnullement, you can receive communion I'm right ?
mrearly2 exactly that's the kind of living I'm living, I'm sanctifying grace, but what a bout my married my ex husband was sexuality impotent and he coundt have children. he never said anything before we got married so he lied, that marriage could be annulled. he is married now even we haven't received the announcement yet.. I'm a practicing Catholic.
Speak to your parish priest. Be careful of asking advice and direction in any internet forum.
Peace to you and God's love.
Can't believe Sensus Fidelium mentioned Ben Shapiro!
Right to the point 📍🎯
I was coerced into my marriage and my husband is abusive. What should I do. I'm suffering.
I need to get away from him. Can I get an annulment or can I join a convent?
Go see a priest about this
Get away from him , stay safe, and seek an annulment asap. I suffered and still suffer from PTSD from my first husband’s abuse. Don’t stay! Please seek help and leave.
Amazing how every woman has an abusive husband. So many women falling in love and marrying by choice above all other men an abusive man. He wasn’t abusive until after marriage right? And you were Mother Teresa? Nobody believes this and neither do the people claiming so.
@@Evermore2017 I don't need to be gaslight by a stranger on here when I was just asking for advice. Clearly if there was coercion there was some abuse before hand it just got worse after the wedding. And yes unfortunately there are a lot of abusive men in the world, anyone who is paying attention can see that woman and children are abused and exploited in all the world mostly by men. I don't compare myself with mother Teresa but you will have to answer to God for your words here today to be mean to a woman who is already suffering and has suffered so much. Also I was already a widow before all of this, the Lord is close to me and He alone is the judge of widows. Also my husband would quite literally get mad at me and be apposed to me just for praying at times, it's ridiculous, when he says he's Catholic.
I feel it is loophole, because this makes it ok for some to annul and those that don't are outcasts in the church and can't remarry.
Is divorce allowed or not?. Im against the annulment privilege. 😏
I'm referring to Catholic marriages.
I hope everything works out great for everyone 🙏
Wasn't my fault she abandoned me, so my word is good. I am open to reunite, but she isn't. So no one can blame me. Im done with marriage, annulments in the church. I will try to be a goodly old man. I am looked on as a failure in society and in this church. She took the kids, which are adults now.
Jesus is clear that remarriage after divorce is not allowed (Luke 16:18). However, if, somehow, there existed a serious impediment to the ratification of the marriage at the time that the marriage occurred, the marriage can be declared "null," as in it appeared that a marriage occurred, a legal marriage did occur, but a true sacramental did NOT occur. In that case, the parties may marry as a true marriage never occurred. HTH. ♥
What if your parents make you get marry in the Catholic Church or they'll reject you or won't go to your wedding?
God is yesterday, today and tomorrow- omega and alpha but why it got changed Jesus said Moses allowed divorce but Jesus don't want divorces? When annulment approved-people do it just to get marry in the church again. God is God so people that are no my catholic God still accepts them. Some times I think it's frustration doing annulments to make everyone happy but what about true relationships with God and true repented with God and when you're free to get marry. What if someone lied in their annulments?
I'm just asking because I know some people won't get marry in the church because "just in case" they'll get a divorce and the next one they can't get marry in the church. Sigh 😔
Nguyet Ho the irony is that if a couple gets married outside the Church with the idea that “just in case it doesn’t work out we can divorce” they have basically doomed the marriage to fail, because their marriage doesn’t have what it needs to be a till death do us part marriage, namely it is missing God.
Those who lie in order to get their marriage declared null are still married. Canon law and Dignitas Connubii require the whole truth. If Petitioners, Respondents, or witnesses lie or omit important testimony, the declaration of nullity is itself null. Therefore, most marriages that are declared null are valid.
Priests, bishops, cardinals, and Pope Francis have no scruples about divorce/remarriage. The laity know that. If they do not, they are still culpable. In my humble opinion.
My study has focused on what they have done to their children. It's beyond abuse.
You're parents love you. They want your eternal salvation. Marrying in the Church, if as a Catholic you're going to get married, puts you on that road. If you're not sure of the person you're marrying, why get married by a jp?
Is this fr david ?
How can you believe it’s a best guess and also believe the Catholic Church has the ability make a marriage null….? So someone MIGHT be in sin if they get married after an anullment given by the Church.
Anullments are one of the only things that make me uncomfortable as a convert… I know protestant with higher views of marriage. In their view, a lack of discernment doesn’t make a difference… it’s confusing how we can say God didn’t superglue a marriage because HE didn’t see it as valid and this person had bad judgment … how could we know???
The way I see it , is that if I got deceived and lacked discernment it doesn’t mean my marriage wasn’t valid. It means I’d have to forgive the betrayal and carry my cross and carry on… that’s what I was taught as a Protestant . Why is it that Catholics don’t want to carry their crosses and are looking for excuses to get out of clearly sacramental marriages. Marriage isn’t supposed to be easy…
And what if the marriage was never consumated?
Almost every marriage is consummated, to not consummate one is very rare. If it was never consummated then yes can be dissolved. And then can marry someone else.
16:00 Abuse of Tribunals
@SensusFidelium Please help me understand. I became a Christian in 2014 and was baptized into the primitive baptist faith at that time. I read voraciously Church history, and was convinced that I should become Catholic. I just showed up at my local parish one Sunday and told the priest that I wanted to become Catholic. He loaned me a book "Catholicism for Dummies" to read, and then at Easter Vigil 2015, I was received into the Roman Catholic Church. What happens to a marriage between two unbaptized people (I married a divorced man). We had three children then we divorced after 25 years. I remarried (he was also a divorced man), then was widowed in 2005. I remarried in 2006 (once again a divorced man). I was widowed again in 2013. All this happened before I became Christian and was baptized. Have I ever been validly married, considering I was always married to a divorced man???? Do I need to petition the Church for an annulment of my first marriage. I asked my priest about my status. He told me that I was a widow. That priest is no longer in the US. My parish is a small "mission" parish, and Father has three parishes in his "cluster". They are all about an hour and a half apart. His time is very limited. I really want to know. I am not dating or anything, but I would like to know if I could if I met someone. Please pray for me! Thank you!
I would just put forward 1 Cor 7:27 as my best answer...hard to say though.. What I have read about valid 2nd marriages from church history (from being a valid widow) was that 2nd marriages not encouraged and third marriages even less...
Best to talk to a Latin Mass priest.
@@tonyale749 Thank you for answering. My first husband has since died.
Respectfully, the Bible says, in Numbers, every vow a widowed and divorced woman makes she is bound to. Therefore, all your vows are legitimate to them and being faithful to the vow is what God commands. The Catholic Church can add all kinds of things to the Bible, but the Bible teaches not to that as the Bible is complete as it is.
The high number of annulments may rather be evidence of the severe lack of instruction and intention in so-called “Catholic” marriages. Consider the high rate of contraception use: clear evidence that there never was intention or understanding present.
Normal priest told me contraception is fine. I kinda doubted that. Then i asked the Latin mass priest, have a clear answer: mortal sin…..
In marriage, if you said the words, your intention is implied. Canon 1101. " I take you for better or worse, richer or poorer, in sickness or health ( including mental illness), until death due us part.
Those are vows. Aquinas says it's a mortal sin to break a vow.
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Bai MacFarlane is doing God's work. The final battle is marriage and the family. Annulments are the new Church Scandal.
Father. If you married some one in the church then found out that they were married overseas. If the church grants an annulment, can you re-marry and not live in sin?
Yes!
Annulments and the morally lazy priesthood and corrupt seminaries are definitely the heresies of our era.
@@humanresources2829 well of course! That's a silly question. That is covered in Canon law. The people receiving annulments are receiving them from tribunals who make up their own Canon laws. Look it up!
The he problem is in the abused Canon 1095 upon which over 95% of American annulments are granted. If you have an annulment based on it and you had children, you have an invalid annulment by a corrupt tribunal
These scriptures should help answer your questions about the importance of covenants:
Joshua 9:11-14:
11So our elders and all the inhabitants of our country spoke to us, saying, ‘Take provisions in your hand for the journey, and go to meet them, and say to them, “We are your servants; now then, make a covenant with us.”’ 12This bread of ours was hot when we took it for our provisions from our houses on the day that we left to come to you; but now behold, it is dry and has become crumbled. 13And these wineskins which we filled were new, and behold, they are split open; and these clothes of ours and our sandals are worn out from the very long journey.” 14So the men of Israel took some of their provisions, and did not ask for the counsel of the LORD. 15And Joshua made peace with them and made a covenant with them, to let them live; and the leaders of the congregation swore an oath to them. 16However, it came about at the end of three days after they had made a covenant with them, that they heard that they were neighbors and that they were living within their land. 17Then the sons of Israel set out and came to their cities on the third day. Now their cities were Gibeon, Chephirah, Beeroth, and Kiriath-jearim. 18But the sons of Israel did not attack them because the leaders of the congregation had sworn to them by the LORD, the God of Israel. And the whole congregation grumbled against the leaders. 19But all the leaders said to the whole congregation, “We have sworn to them by the LORD, the God of Israel, and now we cannot touch them. 20This we will do to them, even let them live, so that wrath will not be on us because of the oath which we swore to them.” 21So the leaders said to them, “Let them live.” And they became gatherers of firewood and labor to draw water for the whole congregation, just as the leaders had spoken to them.
2 Samuel 21:1-2:
1Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David sought the presence of the LORD. And the LORD said, “It is because of Saul and his bloody house, because he put the Gibeonites to death.” 2So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them (now the Gibeonites were not of the sons of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites, and the sons of Israel had made a covenant with them, but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the sons of Israel and Judah).
Malachi 2:13-16:
13And this is another thing you do: you cover the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping and sighing, because He no longer gives attention to the offering or accepts it with favor from your hand. 14Yet you say, “For what reason?” Because the LORD has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you have dealt treacherously, though she is your marriage companion and your wife by covenant. 15But not one has done so who has a remnant of the Spirit. And why the one? He was seeking a godly offspring. Be careful then about your spirit, and see that none of you deals treacherously against the wife of your youth. 16“For I hate [divorce,” says the LORD, the God of Israel, “and him who covers his garment with violence,” says the LORD of armies. “So be careful about your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously.”
Galatians 3:15-17:
15Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man’s covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. 16Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ. 17And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect.
Romans 1:28-32:
28And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful: 32who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practise such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practise them.
The better analogy would be “ a three corded rope does not easily break” in Scripture -with Christ tying down the 2 corded rope of husband and wife. I don’t feel comfortable with God being a super glue… too casual a word and lackadaisical in view of the context of discussing marriage.
Absolutely.
Most seeing this may never get married since only death ends it no matter what.
That's is essentially what the disciples said, "Who would marry under these conditions?" (I am paraphrasing.)
So then the church should have teacher this.
Sensus Fidelum, Tribunals are not suppose to grant annulments based upon a "best guess", annulments are granted based upon the facts as they existed at the moment of the bond, in fact if the judges have to guess for lack of information regarding the facts the bond of marriage stands. Please get a copy of the 1947 revision of the 1917 code of Canon Law and base your opinions on the law and traditional commentary. The 1983 Code of Canon Law regarding marriage is trash and the commentary is worse. The number of years of marriage or the number of children has no bearing on the annulment process. Preexisting mental disorders are not necessarily impediments to a valid marriage. I can't even imagine that addictions would be an impediment, no traditional commentary I'm aware of indicates it to be so. When those evil tribunals grant 50,000 annulments a year every Catholic has to doubt their judgments. The intention of a Godly judge is to preserve the bond of marriage. Catholic tribunals today have the intention of setting people "free" from the bond of marriage: the NO church is simply an organization of conscience placation on a grand scale. You should warn couples that the annulment process in the modernist church is not valid.
Agree with you!!!!
Ed, you are right according to my research also. It's not a " best guess"; "moral certainty" is the proper term. Even Father Wrenn uses it when he misjudges a case.
Drug addictions and alcoholism are not impediments to marriage.
You guys confuse me. I thought marriage is for life? Of course, one way is separation. Correct?
Thank God for lack of form and merciful solutions…
He contradicts himself too much. If you say those vows with intention, thats it!
Matthew 19:9 is very clear, divorce is permitted in the case of adultery, but even then you can not “remarry”
Are you protestant?
Separation, not divorce. Canons 1151-1155.
Separation is correct.
Way too marriages or annulments, valiant woman?
** Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange states the following:
"Theological opinion in general favors long duration of purgatorial purification, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE HELD HIGH OFFICE OR HAD GREAT RESPONSIBILITY."
I'm thinking...............
* Priests who received absolution,
but violated the Sixth Commandment. (sex abuse)
* Priests who received absolution,
but violated the annulment laws. Specifically, Canon 1095.2, and frequently, 1095.3.
(marriage tribunals ~ warned by Popes Benedict XVI & John Paul II)
St Thomas More refused to support Henry VIII's annulment from Catherine of Aragon, so he could marry Anne Boleyn. The king had More executed July 6, 1535.
ssoldie is right about Amoris Laetitia.
So if someone is found guilty, the jury took a best guess? This priest is very disappointing. In my opinion, he also seems to be saying that Catholics should get married outside the church, since they might get divorced, and they can get that simple Annulment. Priests need to teach what marriage truly is. Being a Sacrament, it seems more important then ever now!
Bag Obeans I think you're misunderstanding him
Peter Rodriguez No. I understood him perfectly, or I would not have commented.
Bag Obeans he said, it is better to marry in the justice of the peace than, to marry (inside the Catholic church) with believing that you are going to marry again and NOT waiting for your spouse to die
Bag Obeans and just to ad real quick to marry and having the thought of some type of divorce or annulment and then receiving Communion
Peter Rodriguez He is wrong. To even suggest to be married by the justice of the peace is okay????, is so erroneous. He doesnt even know the story of St. Thomas More correctly. St. Thomas More was against King Henry the Vlll divorcing. The other Bishops tried to talk him out of it. But he refused and was jailed. He was very vocal and he did not just stand by and say nothing. It cost him his life.
Why the preoccupation with Jews in these sermons?
Cringe
Perhaps another interpretation of the term 'annulment' could be considered - namely that the first marriage is recognized as sinful or ungodly due to the emergent evidence over time - and therefore the innocent party can be forgiven in confession and reconciled within the souls of the Church
A marriage is either valid or not at the time that the vows are made. However, the tribunals don't operate that way. They think the way you do, looking at the written evidence, which contains every negative thought the two parties now have, and work backward: granting Declarations of Nullity for psychological incapacities which, they argue, must therefore have been present at the beginning.
No marriage is valid using this diabolical method of destroying the family.
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Exactly. Thank you.
When I was 20, I considered a career as a canon lawyer so I had a phone call with a canon lawyer about what that career is like. She said it mostly deals with annulments and in her opinion there are too many annulments granted these days, where they really shouldn’t be granted.
Now that I’m in the process myself (defending the bond) I learned that in the 80’s, 92% of annulments were overturned in the tribunal appeal process.
I didn’t even know you could appeal these things jn the church. But 92% ???
You’re totally right - any marriage can come up with reasons to justify an annulment if you want to come to that conclusion.
I thought marriage is for life.
What are opinions here about Catholic marriages where the couple were not open to children? Does that seem to be a valid reason for annulment? I know someone that might be in that situation. If he reconciles with his wife and she still does not want children, then I don't know what's better....to stay in a sinful marriage without being open to life, or to divorce and get an annulment