SC v. Nathaniel Rowland Trial Day 6 - Defense Closing Argument by Tracy Pinnock
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- LIVE TRIAL: SC v. Nathaniel Rowland Trial - Alleged Murder Of Samantha Josephson
Nathaniel David Rowland, 27, stands trial for allegedly murdering Samantha Josephson, 21. Court is held in Richland County, South Carolina.
Josephson, a student at the University of South Carolina, got into a vehicle that she believed was her Uber in the early morning of March 29, 2019, according to police. She was found dead in Clarendon County the next day, stabbed more than 30 times.
Rowland was pulled over in his Chevy Impala, and he ran, officials have said. Josephson’s phone and blood were in the car, investigators said. There were also cleaning supplies, with the child locks engaged, according to authorities.
“I can not fathom how someone could randomly select a person, a beautiful girl and steal her life away,” Samantha’s mother Marci Josephson said in a statement to the court in 2019, according to Live 5 News. “His actions were senseless, vile and unacceptable. It sickens us to think that his face was the last thing that my baby girl saw on this earth.”
Samantha’s parents started the #WhatsMyName campaign and is working to pass “Sami’s Law” in South Carolina, which would require ride-share drivers to be clearly identified before passengers enter the vehicle.
Rowland’s family has insisted on his innocence. He was passed out at a house party the night Josephson was abducted, his cousin Trey Elmore told South Carolina newspaper The State in an April 2019 report.
Rowland’s father Henry Rowland shared the second-hand story with WACH around the same time. In this account, Nathaniel Rowland woke up to find his keys were gone, but discovered his vehicle outside. The keys-and blood-were inside. His father said that if this story were true, then it was a mistake not to call 911. It was also a mistake to run during the traffic stop.
#FakeUberMurderTrial #WhatsMyName #NathanielRowland
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Ooouh child , the defense was a mess!, it’s hard to bring a defense when the evidence is overwhelming . She basically insulting the jury’s intelligence
When nate heard the defense closing he said just go ahead take to prison
@@florentinamcleod4159 I’m not sure how he thought saying I’m innocent would get him out of this mess ; he had zero witnesses who could testify to his “someone stole my car keys while I was passed out at a party story” ; all the evidences points directly to him , he’s driving around in the car where the murder took place, had the victim ‘s phone , his cell phone was tracked, he knows he did it ; he just want to detach himself to the reality
Affirmative Action Law Degree
That’s what happens when u let a public defender represent u
@@justoo5935 Johnny Cochran couldn’t get him off
I must admit. This is the worst defense closing argument I've ever seen! The defense gives the jury no reason to doubt any of the charges! But in their "defense", Nathaniel gave them nothing to work with.
She would have been better off saying nothing.
Is the defense really trying to pinn this on the girlfriend? 🙄
@@brandyamarillas487 The defense’s job is to poke holes in the case. She had nothing to work with.
@@gentleeyes5555
Exactly
She knows he's guilty.
"I don't know this. I don't know that. I don't know what's happening. Where am I?"
- A quick summary of the defense.
Her closing arguments were awful .
The 📱 phones hers and his being in exact locations during the entire time of the crime,plus his car stalking her (*him in the car*) obviously he’s very guilty.
This attorneys defence is limited to the facts of the case and as stated by the prosecution all the facts of the case point to the defendants guilt.
She has a job to do.
Try giving a nail clipper to a sheep sheerer see how far they get.
Nate is going to enjoy lil Nas new video
Not much to work with here ....
Defense attorneys had nothing to work with. She did her best
Very difficult to defend a person when you know that they are guilty. The defendant should have pleaded guilty instead of putting families, friends through this…
If he didn’t kill her, who did? Give us some options Miss Mamas.
Hahaha it was his shadow
@@florentinamcleod4159 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly!! If he knows and is not sharing, he deserves to be charged!
@@jillboelman5743 "If he knows and is not telling"
wut. 💀
Exactly
There's no way I'm going to prison for life not to rat out a friend or anybody
I'm glad the jury had common sense so many times you have some Jurors with incredibly strange thought process
This was bad. I feel bad for the lady having to deliver this. It was like the head defense attorney sent her out because she knew how bad it sounded.
Actually this was the lead public defender. 😂
@@maryb6672 😲
@@maryb6672 This attorney was the lead PD for this case but not the elected or assigned PD for Richland County. I believe she is just an assistant PD; she is likely high up enough in the PD’s office to be assigned a serious case but not senior enough to avoid being assigned a crappy case by her supervisors.
l feel pity for her. She knows she is defending the indefensible. Sounds and looks pathetic. Once you hear them blaming law enforcement, know that they have run out of ideas.
@Daddy Choc Well, she has to try something. I could not defend him any better; not because I am such a good lawyer; just because the suspect is so obviously guilty of a gruesome crime.
IM SO EMBARRASSED FOR THE DEFENSE
The defense could have put up their own witnesses or call the investigators to testify, but they chose not to put on a case. Now she's complaining about it. Jeez.
She was making a big deal about Rowland getting stopped when he drove the wrong way down a one-way street, and glossed over the fact that running off is not a good idea in that situation. Rowland was lucky not to have been shot. She moans about this cctv footage that the police did not request- they probably didn't need it- but it didn't occur to her or the rest of the defence team to acquire it as part of the defence. She also seemd to make a big deal about Rowland not getting apprehended until this traffic stop; it's actually quite common for serious offenders to be caught as a result of routine police work. For example the Yorkshire Ripper (English serial killer) was caught after being apprehended for a minor motoring offence.
@@geoffpoole483 exactly!!
@@geoffpoole483 And the OKC Federal Building Bomber was caught initially for a traffic violation. And nearly released the next day, I believe, before realizing he was a suspect.
No money from Nathaniel
Defense attorney: I'm going to insult everyone's intelligence....
This attorneys defence is limited to the facts of the case and as stated by the prosecution all the facts of the case point to the defendants guilt.
She has a job to do.
Try giving a nail clipper to a sheep sheerer see how far they get.
@@frank1903 defense attorneys are scumbags
@@geeloco1600 maybe you're not aware of how the legal system works. Everybody is entitled to a defense... Guilty and innocent alike. She's just trying to do her job with what she has. And the defendant hasn't given her much.
Where’s the motive! I guess none is needed! We are just cold blooded killers! NOT! God will have the last word in all we do! All those involved in this lie, so it is written, so shall it be!
@@Raw200BC Who's "we"? And motive? Not that criminals necessarily need a motive, I haven't personally asked him, but Did you even watch the trial and evidence? He was trying to use her ATM card and sell her phone almost immediately after killing her.
Why didn't they call the person who had this party he was passed out at....hmm, maybe because there was no party and no one wanted to get on the stand and lie.
Exactly
So he ran away from the traffic stop in self defence? Fearing he was going to get cop beat? And therefore he shouldn’t be charged with murder???? Idiocy!
No that’s not the point she was trying to make lol. The prosecution was saying he ran when he heard his car was suspected in a crime saying he knew what that crime was but his defence was saying he didn’t run because of that it was because he felt threatened by the police. She’s just trying to do her best I guess with what she’s got , I’m sure she knows he’s guilty but she’s got to try to defend that pos.
That is why I would never use affirmative action PhD or attorney, always trying to blame police for their bad behavior!!!
She is suggesting there was a second person in the car? Why do they not try and identify this person?
Because she is under the impression that the only thing her and Blondie have to do is provide A Reasonable Doubt.
Probably because there was no one else in the car. 🤷🏼♀️
That's the job of law enforcement, not her
Defense attorney should take a seat in fact she should take several seats!!!
Poor blk guy runs because he’s scared defense she left out the part where the officer said get your hand out if your pocket before he said are you crazy. Does she believe the sht she spews. A gallon of blood in the car
All her closing arguments means him and at least 5 of his friends do this often. This is just the first time they were caught .
This is one of the few cases in which the prosecution seems to have actually proven their case beyond any reasonable doubt.
There are ridiculous trials in which defendants are found guilty when there's literally no evidence presented from the prosecution (e.g. the Prokopovitz trial), this isn't one of them.
The prosecution team was awesome. They were well prepared and were very through. They connected all of the dots. The defense is a different story.
They didn’t have much to prove
I know! So many juries vote guilty with the smallest of evidence
"Get your hand out of your pocket. WHAT ARE YOU CRAZY?" The officer said that because people get shot by putting their hands in pockets. Nice try though.
I thought the same thing when he ran . Are you crazy? . Nice try.
We should look for one of her trials where she’s working an officer involved shooting. .. I’m sure she’ll be talking “out of both sides of her mouth”
@@MAG2507 😂😂😂😂😂😂
no one "lunged" at him either. I have no idea what video they were looking at
Everyone knows u don't stick your hands in your pockets. R put your hands behind your back. That's how u get shot.
This defense team is embarrassing. Funny how he claims he passed out at a party and woke up to his car in that condition.. but his defense didn’t call even one person that attended the so called party to confirm his Alibi.. what a joke. They were going to lose this case no matter what, but geez they didn’t even try. I hope Samantha’s family can finally find peace after all of this.
This attorneys defence is limited to the facts of the case and as stated by the prosecution all the facts of the case point to the defendants guilt.
She has a job to do.
Try giving a nail clipper to a sheep sheerer see how far they get.
So this defense just tried to put Maria into this. That young lady took the stand and spoke the truth case closed!!
He Is GUILTY AS CHARGED❗️❗️❗️
Oh my goodness I bet when she walked up to that podium she was thinking to herself how am I going to get through this and still have some credibility after it!!😂😂
Baby, I would’ve pushed for him to take a plea deal to avoid the embarrassment. But if she was able to get him off her career would’ve exploded bc accomplished the impossible. She is doing a good job in my opinion.
She has no defense. Go sat down... You making no sense.
This defense is like trying to sale a picture book to a blind man. Like trying to sale tickets to climb Mt. Everest to a man with no arms or legs.
Yes jury 2+2=5 bc when the the atoms meet the blue neutrons there's no orange particles.
My client is innocent bc the girls blood is all over him bc there's an alien running around in a human suit pretending to be my client.
Well, um, yeah, cause "the simple answer is typically not the right answer!"
I get that he lawfully gets a defense, but this dump truck of random information is just embarrassing.
And don't forget that one the alien dropped in, and it stole his car keys and borrowed his car and then returned the keys and the car.. when he got in his blood filled car and found his keys he also found a iPhone and a bank card so he decided to go out and see if he could pull any money out on a card that didn't belong to him. Plus if he was any kind of decent citizen he would have taken his car straight to the police department and reported what his findings were and who the blood and the phone and the bank card belong to.
@@Leolioness44 Exactly! Someone stole his car and then brought it back and left the stolen property inside! Makes perfect sense. It's crazy they seriously expect anyone to believe that!
How does she stand there and say… “he’s the easy answer but In this case that’s the wrong answer.” 🤔
Right!!!!😂😂😂😂
This case is as simple as 1,2,3, in words... 1-Guilty 2-Gurl Bye!! 3-COLD BLOODED KILLER!!
In her defense she did not really have a lot to work with. I think they did what they could.
I agree with you. She did the best she could hey she got out there and tried her best with really nothing in her clients favor.
Right?
It’s weak to the point that a 10 years old can make up a better story.
She made a few good points about the phone and the DNA. She did the best she could possibly do. Shes a capable lawyer.
All the defense accomplished for bringing up certain evidence is that he may have picked up an accomplice who took part. The defense attorney did her best with what she could. Under the circumstances she deserves credit.
She did nothing. If anything, she spoke eloquently. That's it.
If some pictures weren't shown, why was the defense so stupid to not ask for these??? Totally empty closing arguments
@Tricia R. agreed
If you don't know what the witness was talking about, you should have used your chance to cross examiner her when you had it. Not try to spin some crap during your closing arguments.
Yeah, now she's confused. That just makes her look dumb.
Exactly. Seek clarification. This was a closing that law schools can use to show students how not to do it.
Right. I understood exactly what Maria was saying and talking about.
This attorneys defence is limited to the facts of the case and as stated by the prosecution all the facts of the case point to the defendants guilt.
She has a job to do.
Try giving a nail clipper to a sheep sheerer see how far they get.
This defense is the biggest joke in a court room i've ever seen. Omg lord have mercy on everybody who choose these defense lawyers
When the evidence is overwhelming a defence can't help u
she had a hard job of putting up a defense of a guilty party. she had to make up so much to try to explain stuff, but there is so much evidence against him, that it makes her look silly by everything she says.
She doesn't even know what she's talking about.
I'm embarrassed for her ....
At all. But I understand, it’s hard to defend a POS.
Verdict watch. This one should be short!
This is a SAD SAD SAD DEFENSE....Public defense at its worse!!! They need to be SENTENCED 5-10 back to law school..
He ain't OJ Simpson
You can't polish a turd
To be honest - they didn’t have much to go with. It is obvious. Science doesn’t lie
What else could she say?? This case is so overhelming
What’s sad is he will use that when applying for an appeal
I think she a very good attorney and is giving a very good defense closing argument (the witness DNA over the bags, the message to her mom etc) but the evidence for him being guilty was really overwhelming.
Of course her dna was on the bags…. she went shopping and brought back those bags
Yea she’s doing ok but it’s hard to understand what her message is for most of it
Where did she get the idea, that, he didn't clean the weapon in front of his girlfriend, when she clearly testified that he did clean it in front of her?! She even testified that she asked him what he was doing, and he told her to " mind her business. " what trial was this woman at? Clearly out of touch. This is the saddest closing from a defense team I've ever heard.
Basically calling her a liar because the tool was still dirty but so was his car and Maria testified to seeing him clean that too. Murder isn’t for everyone. It takes hard work and dedication. The cover up, the clean up. It’s a lot. He was just stupid and lazy.
@@NicoleKe I know. I can only imagine what that car must've smelled like. Blood has a very coppery smell, and a lot of it all at once. Thatz crazy. Who stabs someone 120xs? It's just sick! And ppl forget, he could've killed Maria, if she would've kept asking questions of him. Thank God he didn't.
How did she pass law school?
The defense attorney closing statements she kept saying “I don’t understand I wish I could explain it to you” I understood perfectly well as I’m sure the jury also knew what was going on. Maria’s finger prints were all over the shopping bags. Of course they were. She shops and carry’s the bags and unpacks them. Not hard to figure out. I watched her total closing arguments in disbelief! She is confused about DNA. She says dna doesn’t need touch to transfer but contact??? She just doesn’t seem to understand anything.
She really is insulting everyone's intelligence. It's like a bad stand-up comedy act !!!! Justice prevails.
Thank God they stopped him right away he would have become a serial killer.
He torture that poor girl to get the pin number.
Spot on
Hahahaha! Poor lady! Did she practice this statement at home in the mirror and think yep Nate is going home tonight!!!!hahahaha
....LOL...!!!
His defense lawyer sealed his fate. This is the first time I've seen a defense lawyer and prosecutor seal a SINGLE case at the same time. Wow...History makers...I see "TEAM WORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK" on a whole new level...Rest with the Angels Beautiful Samantha Josephson. JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED!!!!
This attorneys defence is limited to the facts of the case and as stated by the prosecution all the facts of the case point to the defendants guilt.
She has a job to do.
Try giving a nail clipper to a sheep sheerer see how far they get.
This is what its like defending the undefendable !
Give her a break. You can't polish a turd.
This attorneys defence is limited to the facts of the case and as stated by the prosecution all the facts of the case point to the defendants guilt.
She has a job to do.
Try giving a nail clipper to a sheep sheerer see how far they get.
I'm surprised the defense didn't blame Maria's baby for the murder..they could have brought up the reason that a baby wouldn't know right from wrong. Makes as much sense as the other crap that was mentioned
This defense attorney just sealed Nathaniel's fate. Guilty as charged - JUSTICE FOR SAMANTHA!
This woman said " they having spoke about the large amount of blood" the prosecution said thank you
News Flash to Defense Attorney Marie Antoinette! Single mothers who work at McDonnalds can't afford rental cars or ubers to pick up their child at daycare. Hence, use a bloody car that is available.
@@leahfromcrimia8424 I'm a single mum, I work, I have 2 sons. But, I struggle. I pay my bills, food, and whatever else needs paying, but its still a struggle. In all honesty, and some may judge me, ive had too accept lifts from a few "unsavory" old friends of mine too collect my kids. Im not making excuses, but when you need to get your babies, sometimes common sense goes out the window. Admittedly, ive never stepped into a "bloody" car, nor a drunk driver, or high driver etc. But some of the lifts ive accepted were from females/males who maybe I shouldn't of. But they were there in my hour of need. Im level headed, not stupid, but yes ive made a few silly moves. I know its easier said than done, but if id of seen blood in a car, I wouldn't of got into it, especially if I knew other issues had arisen surrounding the blood situation. I guess, she thought if she acted normal, and didn't spook him, he wouldn't turn on her? Especially as she knew about blood in car, phone, cleaning items/car, and him disappearing etc
She most likely as I’d imagine most women would feel in this situation felt as if she made any move other than to act completely normal she and her baby may have possibly ended up in the same place Samantha ended up.
she complained that the lead investigators didn’t testify so they couldn’t ask them any questions….. the defense can subpoena them for their case (they don’t have one) but they wouldn’t even know where to start with questioning them. The defense didn’t even try. Horrible defense now I can see why he asked for a new attorney on the first day of jury selection. He will appeal but won’t get it overturned.
I was thinking the same exact thing
And who are these other men, she's babbling abt? But one thing she's right abt: she don't know.
If you don't have a paid lawyer don't go to trial. Public defenders work for the state. So he's guilty just bc they're not going to do anything for you. I hate public defenders get you in jail everytime in South Carolina
@@johnsteward8311 he was going to jail no matter what kinda lawyer he had. They could’ve brought Johnny Cochran back from the dead and the results would’ve been the same because he left 2 much evidence to help his self be convicted.
@@lee-lee1596 You ain't lying about that one. SMDH. He basically had her body in the car when they pulled him over.
Literally can't defend him. She's not making sense. Just incomplete thoughts.
Public defending at its worst..!!!
Must be hard to defend someone who you know is guilty…
The attempt to deflect and defend is saddening.
This shows up in our society. We sometimes uphold and defend things that errrrrbody would likely consider out of line.
I don’t know why everyone is so critical of her. She made some good points that I hadn’t thought of. It just wasn’t enough. But she’s stuck with the evidence she has to work with.
“On March 30 law enforcement literally knew nothing” she then immediately stated what they knew…WTF.
This defense attorney did the best she could with the nothing she was given to work with. In her defense, there isn't an attorney on the planet who could've put up a solid defense for a client whom the evidence is so overwhelmingly against. By the rules of her profession, she had no choice but to get up there and zealously defend her client. She'd have to do that even if she didn't want to, or if she was also convinced of his guilt herself (which she most likely was). Her profession was asking her to do the impossible in this case, so let's not throw shots at her because she couldn't, like I said, no attorney would've been able to.
13:37 It Officially Starts. Although with such horse 💩 coming out of the defenses mouth, not sure you really want to watch most of it.
Was almost anticipating her to open with “What had happened was….” You can’t defend the indefensible. Perry Mason himself would look to prosecute this case.
Why did you think she would say that?
@@natedawg1007 Because her client was completely guilty. She had no case.
You are correct. It was THAT bad.
So there was a mystery invisible person that killed this poor girl! I mean , dang at the worst stinking rotten luck to mistake that car for Uber 😢😢😢. I feel awful for her and her family 😢
I learned a few things from listening to this defense attorney....do not use the words " I don't know" ......or y'all in a courtroom....
"Hold on dear, let me put my murder shoes on"
Lol right
😂😂 thanks for the laugh. This was so sad. I needed that.
Guessing his flip flops weren't covered in blood because he was leaning over the front seat to stab her
I was thinking the same thing 🤣
Ummmmm. Just sit down defense... Because he's guilty as sin. U can't defend him... Evidence is way too strong and it's so obvious this vile animal took this innocent girls life. Sorry... Bye.
How can this lady (defense) sleep at night? Do they believe the crap they are spouting? She doesn't understand the "technical" stuff......bc it proves he did it. Where did she get her law degree?
Everyone needs a defense they’re fulfilling a need in our justice system. Also from what I’ve heard defense attorneys get desensitized by their cases
She got it by what is that call? Affirmative action
On the back of a cereal box…
She clearly got her degree from the same trash the knife and evidence was found.
She has a mountain to climb that is impossible to climb
She sounds like a dude that has been caught cheating and trying to explain his way out of it when he's caught dead to rights. Lol
"We didn't have the opportunity…" - oh… are they already admitting to providing ineffective representation? The defense in this case was beyond abysmal, from the very first to the very last word they said.
I sort of think that she is "green." Bc if she has been in the arena of the courtroom for awhile, and making an awful closing such as that, she needs to polish up her act, if shes going to defend anyone else. I would b very worried if if she were defending me😖😖
@@Decgyrrl in her defence they surely advised him to plead but he didn’t listen so she had to work with what she had which was clutching at straws. She knew he was guilty.
@@Decgyrrl To be fair, the defense has to do their job and use every argument they can, no matter how ridiculous. The amount and weight of evidence in this case left them with nothing to work with, so they need to be creative, at the cost of sounding dumb. That's their job.
Could be purposely providing an incompetent defense (after he apparently requested alternate representation) in an effort to support his grounds for appealing/different sentencing arrangements/potentially even a new trial.
The defense was trash from the beginning. The blonde defense lawyer only asked the same questions the state ask. 🤦🏽 This defense is PITIFUL! 🙁
Pretty sad & weak closing argument ! They should of had the blonde girl do it. This woman isn’t making any sense or any solid points! But it’s hard to defend someone so bloody guilty !
@Tricia R. ...YES...PLEASE DISREGARD...!!!!
Why does this guy deserve 3 court appointed attorneys? What a waste of tax payer money. They should fine him and his family for court costs and to cover the wages of the jurors who had to take off work to listen to this BS defense.
Those lawyers needed court time for their classes they were taken at USC.
@@uneedasims1266
Yes I think your correct. The law students have to do so many hours of hands on work in the court room.
Reasonable doubt? How do you explain Samantha’s blood all over the defendants clothes? Guilty
The scenario of the defense is: one evening Rowland passed out, woke up the next morning, and all of a sudden his car was soaked with blood. Rowland stepped in the car, got all that blood on his clothes, and forgot to alert the police. Such things happen all the time.
@@CanalPSG uh, I don’t think so……..grasping at straws are you?
@@wendylcam Not me. However, the defense team members have bills to pay, and thus they have to do their job. Which is defending an obvious monster, by coming up with unlikely and unconvincing scenarios that only prove the rich imagination of the defense team.
@@CanalPSG Most trials are about evidence, real or circumstantial and a whole lot of common sense. This defense tactic failed miserably…..
@@wendylcam you must be dumb. The guy was not agreeing with the defense...he was being sarcastic...went right over your head dummy
If he didn't do it he should've told on the person that did...
Why would he not name the person/people responsible if he claims it wasn't him?
@@TheGuinevere777 Exactly !!! Ain't that much fear in the world, to accept a life sentence for something you claim you didn't do...And the evidence is this STRONG AGAINST YOU....And your defense team is this awful-smh!!
You forgot the quotation on “person”. Dude is guilty.
Defense had nothing intelligent to say
Defense is terrible she is repeating verbatim a witness for the prosecution, she is weak as a lawyer her words are weak her ability to talk actual law jargon would have made her look better , with so much evidence nobody could help him .
Affirmative Action Law Degree
She conveniently missed out the part where the cop told him "get your hand out of your pocket", instead she only included the "are you crazy?" part said afterwards, as if it was some kind of threat. A bit desperate.
Defense closing, redundantly dumb.
After listening to this closing, I was somewhat impressed. First, I do believe the suspect IS guilty. Second, from a legal perspective, this attorney did as good as a job in her closing as the defendant could hope. This was an extremely tough case to defend and try to make any real argument. Justice prevailed, the defendants rights were exercised and the verdict was a true verdict.
The lawyer struggled to get this garbage out her mouth
How does he not have wounds on his hands? Is this seriously a question? Gloves
He had her dna under his fingernails
The stupidest closing statement ever. The blood was in the car he drive the car but that doesn’t mean he did it. Lol
Hmmm, if Maria was driving at the time she would have been charged. The problem is all the other evidence that points to him.
The funny thing is, in the opening statement, the defense claimed Nathan Rowland's father would testify that Nate was at a party the night of the murder and someone used his car without permission. But they didn't call any witnesses during the trial and Nathan himself did not testify. They also didn't mention this supposed alibi party in the closing argument.
Really it just seemed like the defense had such a hopeless case that they flat out gave up.
If it wasn’t him who did the crime and he wanted justice for the victim, then he should have testified to who he was scared of and thus protecting by cleaning blood. He can’t have tried so hard to clean the victim’s blood and then turn around and say he doesn’t know anything. He’s crazy to think society would see him as innocent. Sami, I’m sorry this happened to you.
So defense says there was a camera that showed the drivers side of the car. Defense says prosecutor didn't ask for it? Then why didn't the defense present the camera with proff it wasn't Nate in the car?
Lady I know your doing your job but you don’t even believe yourself!!! This man is guilty
An innocent person would be on the stand telling everyone how it can't be him.
Well, no. Most attorneys advise against that regardless if the accused is innocent or guilty as the State can usually always do a good job of making them look horrible and putting words in his or her mouth.
Not really. But they certainly would not have said, “I know I’m innocent, but I guess what I think and know doesn’t matter.” Me, as an innocent person that didn’t kill Samantha Josephson would have certainly given them some names, phone numbers and address to get witnesses in their to testify on my behalf. I would not have been trying to sell a phone that didn’t belong to me. I wouldn’t have been caught driving a blood soaked car.
@@NicoleKe You're right, the State proved he committed every crime in the book, but murder. And although his pre-sentencing statement was not advisable, his attorneys sucked, and what he said was true: what he would say would not matter in the moments to follow.
I honestly think she intentionally did a poor job. She kept bringing up incriminating evidence
Agreed. If he's screwed anyway, why even try?
Crusty the clown and sideshow bob would've been better defense attorneys.
This is the most open-and-shut case I have ever seen. There is literally no defence. They are embarrassed to be there and simply going through the motions.
..."GIRL BYE"...!!!
The defense is to repeat the prosecutions points the entire trial.
I read the comments about horrible the defense closing was I had to witness it for myself.... hot mess.
I know it’s their job. But so many defense attorneys know their client is guilty and they still take on the case and build a defense! How can they do it?!! Defending criminals like him?! 🧐
@Marine....How can they do it??
DUH!!
$$$
I'm sure she was a court appointed lawyer, and even they get paid!
@@ronlawray1563 I understand that! Read my quote: “I know it’s their job”. My point is I couldn’t do this job!
@@HopefulInterventions sometimes it’s not about getting them off totally but to mimimize time served. I look at like you are counselor and advocate. In his case, I would’ve pushed for him to take a plea deal.
Oh please🤨🤨🤨
Haven't watched yet but this is going to be good....I gotta get the clown suit out my closet to put on first. 🥴
Girl same! 🤡
Wait till you hear her disrespect to the judge at the time of sentencing.
When she is talking about the two cell phones communicating with each other by different users, what is the date of this correspondence?
You don”t have to scratch someone to get their DNA on you including under your nails.
What's is your point. I wasn't sure what you're trying to say with that statement. His DNA was under her fingernails. And her DNA was everywhere in his car. Hair, blood, and skin cells.
@@JJ_Justice I was responding to someone saying that she hadn’t SCRATCHED him, that he didn’t have any scratches on him so how can his DNA be under her nails. My point was that she could have just TOUCHED him in order to have his DNA on her, even under her nails.
Crazy Demonic people can utilize two phones at the same time. Nathaniel is a CRAZY Demon.
Exactly. Some people have 2 phones, and would definitely use them both at the same time, especially if it was too form an alibi, or push a different narrative. On the flipside of that, most intelligent people know, phones ping off towers if switched on.
Excuse me Ms....you're wasting your time trying to convince us
She complained about not having an opportunity to ask questions to the investigators. Yet no one had a chance to ask the scumbag questions at trial.
She was defeated before she even started talking she didn't think she was going to make 1 single point however she still had to it was good practice for this young lawyer
Perfect sense to have this woman’s blood all over this car.
@morris man Yeah, America’s most dumbest criminal!
I’m cringing watching her
After watching most of her closing I have to say for the most part she did a decent job with the awful situation she was dealt. Pointing out that he had no injuries after such a brutal attack was a good point and I could see that giving some jurors pause. Of course, from the post attack ATM pictures he seemed dressed prepared for what he was going to do that night by hiding his identity and that would have also prevented injuries to his body. But still in that kind of fury it may seem likely that a body part of his would be exposed during the attack. Defense attorneys have an incredibly difficult job to do and it is disappointing that comments attack her for doing her job. People never appreciate them until they need them.
At around 32:00 Maria not making sense… well this story does not make sense.
She should quit her day job!!
This woman makes me sick. Horrible attorney 😡
Affirmative Action Law Degree
Worst closing argument EVER !!!!!
Maybe they should’ve mounted an actual defense. Just saying.
He is not like OJ Simpson that got away for killing his wife
Like what? Lol
@@florentinamcleod4159 O.J. killed his ex-wife and another man too. But Nicole Brown and OJ Simpson were divorced for a couple of years I believe, when he killed her