Well obviously that's what the collectors all want. That why that this really isn't a discussion we need to have. It's down to hasbro to weigh the pros and cons. Its the same reason it's nonsense that Scott keeps saying we are being "weened" off BAF's. Look at the comments of the last video basically everybody would prefer a deluxe figure as opposed to the BAF's. Tier figures and BAF's aren't rewards they are sales tactics.
A big part of the reason I ponied up all the money for a Cantina was because I knew I could offset some of that cost by selling off the bartender and Greedo, which I already have versions of. If I knew they would release HasLab figures at retail later, I would probably spend my money on more sensible things, like eggs and candy cigarettes.
After seeing DragonMan and the X-men 97' Sentinel sold using an open pre-order, I feel that there is no real justification in a HASLAB. They all look like big box items that could have been sold with an open pre-order to me. Did all that HASLAB money go towards the video game startup fund? The entire situation is suspicious to me. I am a biased, old collector that just likes superhero figures and comics. I just want some good figures for my money. Hasbro can do exactly that but for some reason they don't or won't do it consistently. Why is that?🤔
I've been angry about the loss of that (almost) comic-accurate Madelyne Pryor figure for the last two years, so they better make her available somewhere 🖤
I really liked the figures in that HasLab, especially Madelyn Pryor - but had less than zero interest in the Ghost Rider car. They should wait a couple of years and release the Pryor figure, maybe with repaint (as others have suggested).
Any figures made for HASLABS should have mainline variations with different deco and accessories. Whether a HasLab achieves all of the tiers or not, the figures that make up the tiers should have variants that release later. There's no good will to be found in denying the customers those specific characters. The molds are already made and we all know Hasbro loves reuse and making 💰 🤷🏽♂️
Maybe they can release Wolfman in a exclusive 2 pack like the chopper and Sabine 2 pack through has hasbro pulse. With another exclusive figure. In time for the cantina release.
I agree with you, but I'd like to see a little more change to the figure at as little cost as possible. ie. No new molds, but maybe different hands, hair, clothing etc. Also like you said deco would be cool along with packaging of course so it would go along with the mainline release. It would also make sence for the times that there are existing molds to be put to use so the company could make some more money (lord knows Hasbro could use that). Anyway, just my thoughts on the matter. I don't really have a hat in the game because I don't collect Marvel Legends or Star Wars anymore (I despise Disney), but I am a collector of other lines and just think it would be cool for those of you guys who do like that stuff to still get it in one fashion or another without shelling out a truck load of money and funding the evil Disney monster in a bigger way. 😉
Back when the EoV failed, I made a post on a famous TH-camr's page (that he attacked me for) saying that they were going to release the figures within a few years as they were highly wanted figures. He called me a.liar and said to stop spreading a false narrative as his "inside scoops" told him that it won't be done. One was released in the X-Men '97 wave, and the other was released later down the road in a B.A.F. wave. Let's not forget that the body for the Ghostrider figure that was shown with the E.o.V. was already being used with another figure, so I'm sure that they have plans to eventually release the figures that come with Haslabs down the road, repainted slightly, of course, at retail.
price point, in my opinion, should be the main difference. spend 399 dollars on galactus and get three figures for free. release the free figures at retail for the same price as every other figure. everybody wins, no one feels ripped off, no one feels left out plus it kills the dreaded resale market with it's exorbitant prices. 'nuff said
My thoughts on this, is Haslabs are too expensive for everyone to get. I think exclusives should be repaints or variants. Frankie Nova Rayes for Galactus I believe should have been Chome plated. Or Mephisto Red translucent. Madelyn Pryor was perfect what we should have gotten.
How much would the toy company have already invested by the time they created the "mock up" of the figure seen in the HasLab advertising? And how much more would they have to spend to turn that unreached goal "mock up" into an actual figure solid at retail? Is it more cost effective to throw away all the work done to that point or to push the figure off a year or so and release it on card at retail?
I think it's wrong to release figures included with Haslab separately, but if the Haslab failed, I think it's fair game in a year or 2 later to release them.
I just look at it as you get the figure with the Haslab five years, at least, before anyone else would be able to get the figure by itself. Maybe ten. Eventually, they will release another version or repaint of those figures that came with a Haslab originally.
Honestly, I'd love to see Hasbro try and re-release the failed base Haslabs as Made to Order releases, because there is interest in those projects (Cookie Monster, Rancor, Engine of Vengance, etc) but not enough to meet Hasbro's arbitrary threshold. If they take out all the tiers, just offer an open pre-order for a month or two, and let the people who just wanted Robbie and the car or just wanted the Rancor get the project without having to stress about it being a crowd fund that needs to get a specific number of sales to even exist.
This kind of puts into question the whole infrastructure of a major corporation pleading for funds to put out a product. Its not like they are independent toy producers. There are surely tried and true industry methods to gauge interest in a product that don't involve "Preorder and Tiers". I never get sucked into this sort of thing. I also think its a means to inflate the value of certain items by limiting production. Feels abusive to me.
@@nbriez-c5914 Yes I believe pinless maybe? They said back in the original live streams that those exact versions in the Haslab are unique - so going pinless would be a way around it. That or the deco is slightly different. TBH I've not really compared them
We're only in February and you're saying we're only going to have a 1 BAF wave? I get you work at Mattel and have some insight on those days but I don't think you have a clue what's going on @ Hasbro and the Marvel line. I would expect a few more BAF releases this year (in line with last year) but I highly doubt we're getting only one. No rumors have even suggested that!
Just a theory but maybe that age rating on the package distinguishes what’s a “toy” from a “collectible” in retail situations, a McFarlane Sabbac has a 12+ on the box whereas any Legends figure gets a 4+, even then I only saw Sabbac or Hasbros Blackheart baf wave sold at a specialty store like GameStop and not general retail stores like Walmart or Target
Yep. Though not always available at "retail" _Lady Demon_ and other Chaos Comics! "devil" characters were made by C S Moore (aka Moore Action Collectibles") and sold at shops like Spencer's Gifts, Hot Topic, Game Stop, fye, and others.
Absolutely should be sold at retail or at least as online exclusives, even if there should be a wait. No reason not to sell Mephisto or Goblin Queen at Hasbro pulse. Changing the packaging or accessories seems a fair way to distinguish them.
I am not an on card collector so I am all for packaging changes. With Mephisto and Ghost Rider, I wonder how far along tooling was for some of the figures and if the plan was to always do them one way or another. If it takes 2ish years to make a figure, by the time we see the Haslab prototypes a fair deal of work has been done. I just wonder if someone approved tooling before they should have and now it makes more sense to push the figures forward. My alternate theory is that if Hasbro is stopping production on figures in 26 or 27, are they pushing out all they can while they can for one last hurrah.
Packaging doesn't matter. What does is accessories. Give the figures common accessories if you sell them later. But you're right. I want the Tonika Sisters but couldn't afford the Haslab set. Ghost Crew Kanan and Zeb look so much different between Haslab and retail. Kanan in the retail doesn't have a beard and has his eyes. Zeb came in a deluxe box. Also there is a difference between live action Ezra and cartoon Ezra. They used the same body for both versions of Thrawn, but changed his head. So... there will and should be differences between the two even if both are sold.
I think they should keep it exclusive at least for a number of years because if you release it so soon after nobody will do it and they will wait just like the three pack Spider-Man a lot of people waited to get the store exclusives with the unmasked heads. And they even put in the masked heads, so there was no reason to get the three pack other thannot having patience.
Sabbac who looks like the devil was at targets, I’ve seen. The figures that weren’t release with Haslabs would be fun to get, if the haslab doesn’t get funded. It shouldn’t be everything though to be more fair.
If they release these things they need to do a visible variation. as for the maphisto to say never release it because of lack of funding would be silly. they have the sculpt people saw it, it'll sell. as for fear of nobody backing the haslab it just means they need to put more thought into what is in them
I only collect GI Joe, so I'm not sure how I feel since our Haslabs don't fail. Okay all kidding aside, I'd release them with deco or accessory changes. I'd do that even for the figures from successful Haslab projects, like they did with Retro Cobra Commander. The Haslab HISS version had the "Mickey Mouse" Cobra logo. So later, when they released him to standard retail they gave him a regular logo, changed the hue of the blue plastic, and gave him different gloves, a chrome face mask, and the white cartoon accents. It's close enough to being the same figure that I'd be satisfied with just having one or the other. There were fans that were mad, because they felt the later retail release caused their exclusive figure to diminish in value, but who cares. Their figure was still exclusive, and completist would still want both. Plus, buying toys as a money making venture is stupid anyways. Lol!
They should never release funded or unfunded figures and labs, it massively devalues the price and rarity of these items and makes more people less likely to back them to get more of them when they know it's going to be released later. In all the cases so far, they have arguably re-released cheaper better figures.
I think Hasbro should simply focus on what the consumer wants to buy and not what they want to sell. Price elasticity is real and the bozos at Hasbro have done nothing to understand it. When is the last time they asked us what we want?
The Helstrom from the Haslab was released in the Blackheart baf wave, I’d absolutely buy Mephisto and Robbie Reyes, the Haslab was just overpriced to me and shoehorning Goblin Queen Into a Ghost Rider Haslab wasted a spot that could’ve been used for Caretaker or King of Hell Johnny Blaze, and $350 for all that seemed a bit steep even with the car
I wonder what the future of HASLAB will be, that might be a better question. if they discontinue has lab, then does this make the topic moot? but I appreciate your stuff! thanks for these videos
There is no reason to never release these extra figures. What purpose does it serve to never give us these? People want them, People will buy them. This is a business and we are the fans asking for them. There is no debate here.
The purpose that it serves is when the next thing comes along we don't all go well the figures are coming anyway so i wont buy the big thing. In fact if they only release figures from failed haslab it could cause people to actively campaign for a haslab to fail so the can just buy the figures. At the end of the day it's a fairly basic sale tactic and it's down to hasbro to decide if the potential sales generated outweighs the loss in good will.
The figures need to be way more NICHE if they are going to be exclusive AND a one time offer. If the cantina didn’t fund, would that have meant Hasbro would never have made a Greedo figure again?? Of course not
Failed HasLabs tiers are fair game for production - there’s already been work done on their development so it makes sense for them to make something back on that investment. Nobody is missing out - either they make them now or they never get made at all which is foolish on every level. Likewise with unreached tier goals - if the tier had been reached, people would have got it free, now they have to pay for it. Seems fair enough to me and again, I would rather see toys released than not. When it comes to incentive figures on *successful* Haslabs, I agree that there should be some differentiation between the bonus tier version and the regular retail, but the characters should absolutely not be walked off forever just because they were in a successful HasLab. If Hasbro were still doing their Marvel Legends troop builders, I would have expected to see the Prime Sentinels single packed and I’d be happy with that - leave the Bastion head as exclusive to the Sentinel set, while still allowing him to have a new figure done in the X-Men ‘97 line for example. Straight reissues of the Ghost crew or Galactus’s heralds are fine after a couple of years anyway as far as I’m concerned - but different packaging/deco/accessories is the most sensible way to go.
The figures are a bonus add in. Buy in to the Haslab and get the bonus free figures. You are not special. The figures should be made available. People are just stripping the figures from the Haslab set and scalping them for profit anyway, they don't even want them. People are ruining the collecting hobby for others. let us all have access to these for market products. Hasbro is not here to create one in a lifetime product buys, they want to make and sell toys. Us customers want to buy these toys.
The way I see it if you spent money on the tooling. Make it available in someway, shape or form. maybe not the exact deco, certainly not with the same accessories. Maybe even Deluxe it up. But if you already invested in all that tooling cost, why just write that off
Haslab just needs to stop. Its not 2020 anymore. Collectors should be able to travel and go on vacations like we used to, rather than being recursively sold a pipeline investment based on nostalgia. That allows the toy company to exploit your investment for bank interest, and then half ass the QC on the final product when they make it in a year and a half. As for the question. Its probably understandable that the tooling incentive figures should be reused. Maybe they could release after enough time has passed to forgive, Star wars and marvel collectors are used to obscure characters being long in the tooth between updated releases of some characters.
@@popculturehero Haslab is preventing travel and vacations? It’s not like there’s only a tiny window of time to buy one like an eBay auction. Haslabs run for months.
I mean the money that we spent before 2020, before Haslabs. Would probably be spent on toy conventions, or a vacation. Rather than being pulled further down the line like a fish on a hook.
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If it fails, release the figures. If it passes, release variants of the figures.
'Nuff said!
This makes too much sense.
Well obviously that's what the collectors all want. That why that this really isn't a discussion we need to have. It's down to hasbro to weigh the pros and cons. Its the same reason it's nonsense that Scott keeps saying we are being "weened" off BAF's. Look at the comments of the last video basically everybody would prefer a deluxe figure as opposed to the BAF's. Tier figures and BAF's aren't rewards they are sales tactics.
I'm really sad we didn't get that Cookie Monster. He was going to hang out with Unicron (and now Galactus) as an "Eaters of things" on my shelf
A big part of the reason I ponied up all the money for a Cantina was because I knew I could offset some of that cost by selling off the bartender and Greedo, which I already have versions of. If I knew they would release HasLab figures at retail later, I would probably spend my money on more sensible things, like eggs and candy cigarettes.
After seeing DragonMan and the X-men 97' Sentinel sold using an open pre-order, I feel that there is no real justification in a HASLAB. They all look like big box items that could have been sold with an open pre-order to me. Did all that HASLAB money go towards the video game startup fund? The entire situation is suspicious to me.
I am a biased, old collector that just likes superhero figures and comics. I just want some good figures for my money. Hasbro can do exactly that but for some reason they don't or won't do it consistently. Why is that?🤔
Keclar, Leader of the Elders, we miss you so much!!! 😭😭😭😭
Release a red cloak variant, at the very least, Mattel! 😢
I've been angry about the loss of that (almost) comic-accurate Madelyne Pryor figure for the last two years, so they better make her available somewhere 🖤
I really liked the figures in that HasLab, especially Madelyn Pryor - but had less than zero interest in the Ghost Rider car. They should wait a couple of years and release the Pryor figure, maybe with repaint (as others have suggested).
@Williestyle-RobotechxMacross-x same. I wouldn't have paid a reasonable price for the car, so there was no way I was paying that price 😅
Any figures made for HASLABS should have mainline variations with different deco and accessories. Whether a HasLab achieves all of the tiers or not, the figures that make up the tiers should have variants that release later.
There's no good will to be found in denying the customers those specific characters. The molds are already made and we all know Hasbro loves reuse and making 💰 🤷🏽♂️
Maybe they can release Wolfman in a exclusive 2 pack like the chopper and Sabine 2 pack through has hasbro pulse. With another exclusive figure. In time for the cantina release.
I agree with you, but I'd like to see a little more change to the figure at as little cost as possible. ie. No new molds, but maybe different hands, hair, clothing etc. Also like you said deco would be cool along with packaging of course so it would go along with the mainline release. It would also make sence for the times that there are existing molds to be put to use so the company could make some more money (lord knows Hasbro could use that). Anyway, just my thoughts on the matter. I don't really have a hat in the game because I don't collect Marvel Legends or Star Wars anymore (I despise Disney), but I am a collector of other lines and just think it would be cool for those of you guys who do like that stuff to still get it in one fashion or another without shelling out a truck load of money and funding the evil Disney monster in a bigger way. 😉
Back when the EoV failed, I made a post on a famous TH-camr's page (that he attacked me for) saying that they were going to release the figures within a few years as they were highly wanted figures. He called me a.liar and said to stop spreading a false narrative as his "inside scoops" told him that it won't be done. One was released in the X-Men '97 wave, and the other was released later down the road in a B.A.F. wave. Let's not forget that the body for the Ghostrider figure that was shown with the E.o.V. was already being used with another figure, so I'm sure that they have plans to eventually release the figures that come with Haslabs down the road, repainted slightly, of course, at retail.
@@CowleyStudentJ I think the only EoV figure released was Daimon Hellstrom in the Blackheart wave. What X-men figure are you talking about?
price point, in my opinion, should be the main difference. spend 399 dollars on galactus and get three figures for free. release the free figures at retail for the same price as every other figure. everybody wins, no one feels ripped off, no one feels left out plus it kills the dreaded resale market with it's exorbitant prices. 'nuff said
Hasbro feels left out. They would rather you brought the 399 figure please.
My thoughts on this, is Haslabs are too expensive for everyone to get. I think exclusives should be repaints or variants. Frankie Nova Rayes for Galactus I believe should have been Chome plated. Or Mephisto Red translucent. Madelyn Pryor was perfect what we should have gotten.
How much would the toy company have already invested by the time they created the "mock up" of the figure seen in the HasLab advertising? And how much more would they have to spend to turn that unreached goal "mock up" into an actual figure solid at retail? Is it more cost effective to throw away all the work done to that point or to push the figure off a year or so and release it on card at retail?
This is a good question for Spector Creative
I think it's wrong to release figures included with Haslab separately, but if the Haslab failed, I think it's fair game in a year or 2 later to release them.
I just look at it as you get the figure with the Haslab five years, at least, before anyone else would be able to get the figure by itself. Maybe ten. Eventually, they will release another version or repaint of those figures that came with a Haslab originally.
I reallyyyy wish the Haslab Jabbas sail barge was re-released one more time! I def want it.
Honestly, I'd love to see Hasbro try and re-release the failed base Haslabs as Made to Order releases, because there is interest in those projects (Cookie Monster, Rancor, Engine of Vengance, etc) but not enough to meet Hasbro's arbitrary threshold.
If they take out all the tiers, just offer an open pre-order for a month or two, and let the people who just wanted Robbie and the car or just wanted the Rancor get the project without having to stress about it being a crowd fund that needs to get a specific number of sales to even exist.
This kind of puts into question the whole infrastructure of a major corporation pleading for funds to put out a product.
Its not like they are independent toy producers. There are surely tried and true industry methods to gauge interest in a product that don't involve "Preorder and Tiers".
I never get sucked into this sort of thing. I also think its a means to inflate the value of certain items by limiting production. Feels abusive to me.
Crowdfunding values cover your percentage of making the item and not just what the item would cost at retail.
I’m definitely down for the Haslab version of Goblin Queen!
I want the unfunded Goblin Queen Marvel Legends
There's one in the X-Men '97 line.
@@CoolCATs2814 yeah but they covered her all up. I want the comics-accurate sexy one that they had on HasLab
They already did it with Hellstrom
Wasnt the official release slightly different tho or was it exactly the same figure?
@@nbriez-c5914 Yes I believe pinless maybe? They said back in the original live streams that those exact versions in the Haslab are unique - so going pinless would be a way around it. That or the deco is slightly different. TBH I've not really compared them
Oh shit😂😂😂 great point, very tricky lol
If enough time goes by and they use a different head-sculpt, sure.
Other than that, it was an exclusive reward for the large item purchase.
We're only in February and you're saying we're only going to have a 1 BAF wave? I get you work at Mattel and have some insight on those days but I don't think you have a clue what's going on @ Hasbro and the Marvel line. I would expect a few more BAF releases this year (in line with last year) but I highly doubt we're getting only one. No rumors have even suggested that!
Scott still spouting the erroneous info about devil characters not showing up at retail. Sabbac from the Black Adam movie was at retail for example.
I wish he’d address this. I’m guessing it had something to do with Sabbac being a movie tie-in.
Just a theory but maybe that age rating on the package distinguishes what’s a “toy” from a “collectible” in retail situations, a McFarlane Sabbac has a 12+ on the box whereas any Legends figure gets a 4+, even then I only saw Sabbac or Hasbros Blackheart baf wave sold at a specialty store like GameStop and not general retail stores like Walmart or Target
@@gcell10 I saw them in the regular toy aisle at multiple Walmarts. It made me immediately think of Scott’s old video.
Yep. Though not always available at "retail" _Lady Demon_ and other Chaos Comics! "devil" characters were made by C S Moore (aka Moore Action Collectibles") and sold at shops like Spencer's Gifts, Hot Topic, Game Stop, fye, and others.
Absolutely should be sold at retail or at least as online exclusives, even if there should be a wait. No reason not to sell Mephisto or Goblin Queen at Hasbro pulse. Changing the packaging or accessories seems a fair way to distinguish them.
I am not an on card collector so I am all for packaging changes. With Mephisto and Ghost Rider, I wonder how far along tooling was for some of the figures and if the plan was to always do them one way or another. If it takes 2ish years to make a figure, by the time we see the Haslab prototypes a fair deal of work has been done. I just wonder if someone approved tooling before they should have and now it makes more sense to push the figures forward. My alternate theory is that if Hasbro is stopping production on figures in 26 or 27, are they pushing out all they can while they can for one last hurrah.
Packaging doesn't matter. What does is accessories. Give the figures common accessories if you sell them later. But you're right. I want the Tonika Sisters but couldn't afford the Haslab set. Ghost Crew Kanan and Zeb look so much different between Haslab and retail. Kanan in the retail doesn't have a beard and has his eyes. Zeb came in a deluxe box. Also there is a difference between live action Ezra and cartoon Ezra. They used the same body for both versions of Thrawn, but changed his head. So... there will and should be differences between the two even if both are sold.
Mattel did this as well with the two versions of Doomsday after club infinite earths failed.
Hasbro needs to make new figures, like Serpent Society.
They during the Giant Man campaign they weren't going to be locking wanted characters behind the Haslab paywall going forward
I’m excited for this, my interest is getting character’s I want. I really don’t care what comes with a crowdfunded item though as a rarely buy them.
memphesto= mephisto from memphis = mephisto if he was a melanin enriched person
just wanna say thank you so much for getting most of fav figures made that with out you would have most likely never gotten made....
Yes, everything deserves an eventual release
I think they should keep it exclusive at least for a number of years because if you release it so soon after nobody will do it and they will wait just like the three pack Spider-Man a lot of people waited to get the store exclusives with the unmasked heads. And they even put in the masked heads, so there was no reason to get the three pack other thannot having patience.
Sabbac who looks like the devil was at targets, I’ve seen.
The figures that weren’t release with Haslabs would be fun to get, if the haslab doesn’t get funded. It shouldn’t be everything though to be more fair.
If they release these things they need to do a visible variation. as for the maphisto to say never release it because of lack of funding would be silly. they have the sculpt people saw it, it'll sell. as for fear of nobody backing the haslab it just means they need to put more thought into what is in them
I only collect GI Joe, so I'm not sure how I feel since our Haslabs don't fail. Okay all kidding aside, I'd release them with deco or accessory changes. I'd do that even for the figures from successful Haslab projects, like they did with Retro Cobra Commander. The Haslab HISS version had the "Mickey Mouse" Cobra logo. So later, when they released him to standard retail they gave him a regular logo, changed the hue of the blue plastic, and gave him different gloves, a chrome face mask, and the white cartoon accents. It's close enough to being the same figure that I'd be satisfied with just having one or the other. There were fans that were mad, because they felt the later retail release caused their exclusive figure to diminish in value, but who cares. Their figure was still exclusive, and completist would still want both. Plus, buying toys as a money making venture is stupid anyways. Lol!
I've been wondering about that myself. You'd think maybe they'd try again if there was more interest later.
They should never release funded or unfunded figures and labs, it massively devalues the price and rarity of these items and makes more people less likely to back them to get more of them when they know it's going to be released later. In all the cases so far, they have arguably re-released cheaper better figures.
I think Hasbro should simply focus on what the consumer wants to buy and not what they want to sell. Price elasticity is real and the bozos at Hasbro have done nothing to understand it. When is the last time they asked us what we want?
The Helstrom from the Haslab was released in the Blackheart baf wave, I’d absolutely buy Mephisto and Robbie Reyes, the Haslab was just overpriced to me and shoehorning Goblin Queen Into a Ghost Rider Haslab wasted a spot that could’ve been used for Caretaker or King of Hell Johnny Blaze, and $350 for all that seemed a bit steep even with the car
I'm like that devil 😈 🤣
I wonder what the future of HASLAB will be, that might be a better question. if they discontinue has lab, then does this make the topic moot?
but I appreciate your stuff! thanks for these videos
There is no reason to never release these extra figures. What purpose does it serve to never give us these?
People want them, People will buy them. This is a business and we are the fans asking for them.
There is no debate here.
The purpose that it serves is when the next thing comes along we don't all go well the figures are coming anyway so i wont buy the big thing. In fact if they only release figures from failed haslab it could cause people to actively campaign for a haslab to fail so the can just buy the figures. At the end of the day it's a fairly basic sale tactic and it's down to hasbro to decide if the potential sales generated outweighs the loss in good will.
The figures need to be way more NICHE if they are going to be exclusive AND a one time offer.
If the cantina didn’t fund, would that have meant Hasbro would never have made a Greedo figure again?? Of course not
Did you say, "Muh-FEST-O?" It's MEH-PHIST-O
Failed HasLabs tiers are fair game for production - there’s already been work done on their development so it makes sense for them to make something back on that investment. Nobody is missing out - either they make them now or they never get made at all which is foolish on every level. Likewise with unreached tier goals - if the tier had been reached, people would have got it free, now they have to pay for it. Seems fair enough to me and again, I would rather see toys released than not.
When it comes to incentive figures on *successful* Haslabs, I agree that there should be some differentiation between the bonus tier version and the regular retail, but the characters should absolutely not be walked off forever just because they were in a successful HasLab. If Hasbro were still doing their Marvel Legends troop builders, I would have expected to see the Prime Sentinels single packed and I’d be happy with that - leave the Bastion head as exclusive to the Sentinel set, while still allowing him to have a new figure done in the X-Men ‘97 line for example. Straight reissues of the Ghost crew or Galactus’s heralds are fine after a couple of years anyway as far as I’m concerned - but different packaging/deco/accessories is the most sensible way to go.
You dont get "free" figures with a haslab. They are part of the sales price.
You DO know that a figure of The Devil was released in the Cuphead figure line....at retail, right?
The figures are a bonus add in. Buy in to the Haslab and get the bonus free figures.
You are not special. The figures should be made available.
People are just stripping the figures from the Haslab set and scalping them for profit anyway, they don't even want them. People are ruining the collecting hobby for others.
let us all have access to these for market products. Hasbro is not here to create one in a lifetime product buys, they want to make and sell toys. Us customers want to buy these toys.
The way I see it if you spent money on the tooling. Make it available in someway, shape or form. maybe not the exact deco, certainly not with the same accessories. Maybe even Deluxe it up. But if you already invested in all that tooling cost, why just write that off
Oh when he was shown that was a sculpt, not a tool! No money was spent
Redeco the figure, and it's fine.
Galactus was Ravage or Ravager or something
Mephisto not Mephessto. It's not that hard
This is the same person who did a whole video about Bram "Stroker", and another where he kept referring to dogs as feline.
Haslab just needs to stop. Its not 2020 anymore. Collectors should be able to travel and go on vacations like we used to, rather than being recursively sold a pipeline investment based on nostalgia. That allows the toy company to exploit your investment for bank interest, and then half ass the QC on the final product when they make it in a year and a half.
As for the question. Its probably understandable that the tooling incentive figures should be reused. Maybe they could release after enough time has passed to forgive, Star wars and marvel collectors are used to obscure characters being long in the tooth between updated releases of some characters.
@@popculturehero Haslab is preventing travel and vacations? It’s not like there’s only a tiny window of time to buy one like an eBay auction. Haslabs run for months.
I mean the money that we spent before 2020, before Haslabs. Would probably be spent on toy conventions, or a vacation.
Rather than being pulled further down the line like a fish on a hook.
Haslab won't do that
Theyve already done it more than once with more already announced.
I think it will all be moot if the China tariffs stick.