I appreciate your feed back. I'm working to get warranty to cover. I just lost basic warranty this month. I will keep you updated when I find out the problem!
Wow great review.. now I know the reason behind the DEF Delete.. those parts must be trouble in the making and once that holder fills up I assume that is gonna nearly bankrupt me.. Unless there is a drain/clean out plug it is best to get the DEF Delete System put in early on my New Diesel.. I have 12000 miles now.. wonder how much soot it has in the holding tank?
Hey Mark thanks for watching 👍 The DPF (diesel particulate filter) catches the soot- and it gets burned away there - either through driving or regeneration. So no need to drain or clean out anything system does it by itself. The DEF tank holds fluid needed to clean up tailpipe emission (Nox). Usually when they talk about “delete” it means u take out the whole after treatment system and u will blow the soot out of the tailpipe, and you have black exhaust smoke when u floor it. But as long as you keep DEF fluid in there the system good for at least 100k miles.
John, a year later and as I forecast above at 12,000 miles, a major issue with the DEF, or should I say, many issues with the DEF system, the tank, the SCR, and the DEF Fluid manufactures labeling of the box or bottles of DEF. Why? The DEF fluid from the start has a critical expiration date that is not labeled clearly if at all, on any of the boxes or bottles. I even asked the sales people and the manager at an major Auto Parts Store what the Manufacture date was on a box of the Lates Premium Blue DEF and if it was expired as DEF will ruin a $10,000 system, and you may never find out why you have to pay so much to get a Bad system repaired. No one new the answer, The DEF tank installed on the Nissan Titan and possibly all DEF systems, has no way to drain it if you suspect for some reason your truck has sat too long. So the DEF fluid system may inject or try to inject bad fluid into the SCR which could be cause for a major failure that will leave you stuck in Limp mode in the middle of a desert if your there.. or out somewhere without Cell phone coverage in sub zero temps with a truck full of kids. All of which are major safety hazards not yet identified by the highway safety department which I will be working getting them to realize the safety issues very soon.. "Frozen Kids found in Truck". Possibility for failure are very real and I have experienced a couple of them just because of a very bad design by Nissan to satisfy EPA with a system that is much worse environmentally than even a straight pipe coming off the engine due to regens, more pollution from discarded old DPF systems, plastic from the empty containers of DEF and it goes on and on.. I have 23,000 miles on a truck with a "best $4000 guess" NOT UNDER WARRANTY" (due to living in a No emission testing state.) If replacing the SCR I am sure the dealer will need to keep throwing parts on at my cost. So it is a no win situation for me.. Truck is shined up and engine bay is spotless, interior and outside spotless, I put some money in a high end Diamond Back Bed Cover and rear window guard... Brand new Michelin 70,000 mile tires etc.. I am not a happy Nissan owner and I told Nissan Manufacture Customer service so, they do not care. Never again Nissan... this was going to be my retirement truck as I retired this year... now I have to find.
@@Funky4me21 I think all this aftertreatment technology is just an excuse to make a nice stack of cash out of the public, and kill off diesel engines. It's a total joke....but it's NOT funny financially, having to repair this stuff when it goes wrong..... And like you say, it's totally more damaging to the environment.
Awesome thank you for this video, I own one of these and it is like pulling nails to get good information at the dealer on any maintenance items. Subscribing!
Thanks for a well detailed explanation of the DPF system John I almost bought the XD Diesel last year but this diesel after treatment system point me to buy a gasser and gave me and idea that this modern diesels with DPF are not so short journey friendly than old timer diesels my first and last diesel powered vehicle was an 2005 Honda Accord with 2.2 i-CTDi (in England, UK) and i love that engine no regen of some sort but 2 yrs later Honda introduced the updated version with DPF and all hell break lose. By the way John whats the life span of the system? still considering buying one but I don't do a lot of highway miles.
Thanks for watching! Theoretically system supposed to last the life of the truck, I believe at least a 100k warranty through Nissan on parts but I’d have to double check. But u are right short trips and not driving long enough to heat up the system seems to clog them up a lot faster. They actually recommend highway driving and towing to burn the soot. When they do clog u must take to dealer and do stationary regen with computer hooked up.
I have 37,000 miles and waiting for my dealer to get parts to replace my unit already. My service manager told me yesterday that he would have talked me out of purchasing my truck if he had seen me prior to my getting it. This is the third time in a month I’ve had to take back for getting engine light on. All different issues.
Wow that sucks sorry to hear that. Sometimes it seems like they are cursed! I’m actually replacing a engine harness now in one for squirrel damage- it nested right under the intake manifold and chewed everything up, $5000 in damage and not covered by warranty. I’ll make a vid on it soon. Hopefully u don’t have any more problems. Thanks for watching!
Great video. My 2018 goe into regen almost every 300 to 500 miles. I want to pull out this whole system and do a turbo to back exhaust. Have you dealt with any turbo to back exhausts on a Nissan Titan XD so far?
John, after getting "DPF filter overloaded, Immediate service required" I removed DPF and cleaned it. Manual calls for Service Re-generation procedure. What is it, and how it can be initiated by the owner? Thank you.
You shouldn’t have to remove it to clean it, There is two types of regeneration active and passive. Active regeneration is when you take it to the dealer they hook the computer up and do it that way it’s real thorough. Passive happens automatically when you’re driving around generally highway driving. Stop and go driving clogs them up big time. Regeneration just burns off all that black soot . Thanks for watching
I have a 2018 Platinum Reserve Titan XD Diesel that I bought in Fairbanks when my old Nissan Titan died. The display that shows the DEF level never moves from full. Is this a known problem? The local IN dealer tried to fix it but failed.
John, I have a 2016 Titan XD SL 2WD. I have taken to dealership twice and neither time they could figure this out. My DEF meter on the driver display is not showing even after selecting in menu options to show. I just realized the other day it is also not showing the exhaust temperature getting warmer after driving for an hour on highway. I haven't had any warning lights that DEF is low. The engine only has 10k miles on it. The previous owner blew long block so they replaced and put a wiring harness in as well.... What do you think I'm missing? Is it a sensor that's out? Update** I found the wire connector on the DEF wire connection for the Decomp was loose and the locking mechanism was broken, could this be the problem?
Yes it sounds like a wiring problem, a lot of harness go bad on those. And if they not installed properly it can be a nightmare. I’d take it back and tell them to recheck it. If something is unplugged there will be a code for it in system
Do you by chance know the bank and sensor number for the EGT? I use the Torque Pro app to monitor my engine parameters and EGT. They are displayed as such: EGT bank 1 sensor 1, EGT bank 1 sensor 2, EGT bank 1 sensor 3 and EGT bank 1 sensor 4. Would I be correct with assuming that the first EGT sensor you showed was EGT bank 1 sensor 1 and the last EGT sensor is EGT bank 1 sensor 4? TIA
Hey sorry I didn’t get back sooner I didn’t see the comment for some reason. I know there is a temp sensor on the EGR that measure exhaust temp b4 it mixes with the intake charge air, but b1 sensor 1 is most likely the DOC intake temp sensor ( # 2 in video)- that is first one that reads exhaust gas temp after it has left the engine. There is 5 total on after treatment system- #2 - #4 -#7 - # 12 & # 14 in video. They all reading exhaust gas temp. Hope it helps thanks for watching!
Hi John I was wondering if I replace a bad nox sensor if you need to do anything with the computer like a active regen or I can swap out the bad front nox sensor code p2201 and it will be good to go I have a 3,000 mile trip coming up in 3 weeks thank you for the video
John, I'm a factory Dodge/Jeep Master tech who recently purchased a 2018 Titan XD Cummins. Would love to get my hands on any training material (like the book pictured).
My truck says my DEF is low but I filled it when it was 20%. It didn’t register that I added 2.5 gallons. Now a few hundred miles later it says it’s going to go into low power mode. My Nissan Dealership says they can’t help me because they don’t have a Diesel Mechanic. What’s wrong? Is there a way for me to fix this?
I took my truck to maus Nissan. They told me my truck was throwing these codes and this is what is going to cost. Diagnostic -Can you find out what parts these are for this code? [Other]: replace doc and dpf assembly with sensors code p1484 and p200e $12534.46
I had a 16 XD with the Cummins. Have the newer ones gotten more reliable? Had a lot of trouble with the 16 but would like to get in a newer one if the bugs have been worked out
@@jamesg6071 Aint really seen many main bearing failures yet but have been seeing wire harness issues on cylinder 5, connector burning up. There seems to be different problems in different parts of country
I haven’t seen too many options for these yet unfortunately, all I have been able to find is the last section from after treatment to tip that has a little bit larger pipe- but haven’t heard one installed. I’m afraid to get any real change it would void warranty. If I come across anything new I will let u know- thanks for watching!
Eli I am having the same problem with P2481 bank 1 sensor 5 low. I only have an issue when it is raining leading me to believe I have a connection issue or wiring issue. did you every find B1S5? there is very little good information out there on this.
This system is trash. Can't even handle cold weather without giving DEF system errors and going into limp mode. This shit is so common yet Nissan refuses to cover it under warranty.
This is a great breakdown. My father is a technician and ive been able to learn a lot from him. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
I appreciate your feed back. I'm working to get warranty to cover. I just lost basic warranty this month. I will keep you updated when I find out the problem!
Thanks John, now I got it! Finally a video that brings theory and practice together, with clear explanations and graphics ! Well done!
Cool thanks glad it helped!
Good job explaining this system, I actually understood...
thanks so much for posting this.. I now hate the DOC DPF SCR DEF SYSTEM even more
Lol - thanks for watching! Yea I like old school diesel exhaust better - these things rob power like crazy.
Wow great review.. now I know the reason behind the DEF Delete.. those parts must be trouble in the making and once that holder fills up I assume that is gonna nearly bankrupt me.. Unless there is a drain/clean out plug it is best to get the DEF Delete System put in early on my New Diesel.. I have 12000 miles now.. wonder how much soot it has in the holding tank?
Hey Mark thanks for watching 👍 The DPF (diesel particulate filter) catches the soot- and it gets burned away there - either through driving or regeneration. So no need to drain or clean out anything system does it by itself. The DEF tank holds fluid needed to clean up tailpipe emission (Nox). Usually when they talk about “delete” it means u take out the whole after treatment system and u will blow the soot out of the tailpipe, and you have black exhaust smoke when u floor it. But as long as you keep DEF fluid in there the system good for at least 100k miles.
John, a year later and as I forecast above at 12,000 miles, a major issue with the DEF, or should I say, many issues with the DEF system, the tank, the SCR, and the DEF Fluid manufactures labeling of the box or bottles of DEF. Why? The DEF fluid from the start has a critical expiration date that is not labeled clearly if at all, on any of the boxes or bottles. I even asked the sales people and the manager at an major Auto Parts Store what the Manufacture date was on a box of the Lates Premium Blue DEF and if it was expired as DEF will ruin a $10,000 system, and you may never find out why you have to pay so much to get a Bad system repaired. No one new the answer, The DEF tank installed on the Nissan Titan and possibly all DEF systems, has no way to drain it if you suspect for some reason your truck has sat too long. So the DEF fluid system may inject or try to inject bad fluid into the SCR which could be cause for a major failure that will leave you stuck in Limp mode in the middle of a desert if your there.. or out somewhere without Cell phone coverage in sub zero temps with a truck full of kids. All of which are major safety hazards not yet identified by the highway safety department which I will be working getting them to realize the safety issues very soon.. "Frozen Kids found in Truck". Possibility for failure are very real and I have experienced a couple of them just because of a very bad design by Nissan to satisfy EPA with a system that is much worse environmentally than even a straight pipe coming off the engine due to regens, more pollution from discarded old DPF systems, plastic from the empty containers of DEF and it goes on and on.. I have 23,000 miles on a truck with a "best $4000 guess" NOT UNDER WARRANTY" (due to living in a No emission testing state.) If replacing the SCR I am sure the dealer will need to keep throwing parts on at my cost. So it is a no win situation for me.. Truck is shined up and engine bay is spotless, interior and outside spotless, I put some money in a high end Diamond Back Bed Cover and rear window guard... Brand new Michelin 70,000 mile tires etc.. I am not a happy Nissan owner and I told Nissan Manufacture Customer service so, they do not care. Never again Nissan... this was going to be my retirement truck as I retired this year... now I have to find.
@@Funky4me21 I think all this aftertreatment technology is just an excuse to make a nice stack of cash out of the public, and kill off diesel engines. It's a total joke....but it's NOT funny financially, having to repair this stuff when it goes wrong.....
And like you say, it's totally more damaging to the environment.
Awesome thank you for this video, I own one of these and it is like pulling nails to get good information at the dealer on any maintenance items. Subscribing!
Thanks for watching, I’ve been out of action for a little while but will be making new videos soon
@@johnthemechanic3360 Great! Any info on transmission servicing would be nice since they demand a 20k interval "transmission service".
Ok I’ll definitely check on that 20 k sounds way too low for a trans service. I’ll get back to u
Great presentation thanks for the lesson
Thanks for watching!
OMG you have no idea how much you just helped me. Thank you so much
L know nothing on this subject and I learned a lot from you! Thanks!
Cool- thanks for checking it out!
You're the man. Keep these coming! Cheers
You are the best my friend!
Epic video Thanks John
Thank u Karl - and thanks for watching!
Thank you for making this video! Very helpful
Thanks for a well detailed explanation of the DPF system John I almost bought the XD Diesel last year but this diesel after treatment system point me to buy a gasser and gave me and idea that this modern diesels with DPF are not so short journey friendly than old timer diesels my first and last diesel powered vehicle was an 2005 Honda Accord with 2.2 i-CTDi (in England, UK) and i love that engine no regen of some sort but 2 yrs later Honda introduced the updated version with DPF and all hell break lose. By the way John whats the life span of the system? still considering buying one but I don't do a lot of highway miles.
Thanks for watching! Theoretically system supposed to last the life of the truck, I believe at least a 100k warranty through Nissan on parts but I’d have to double check. But u are right short trips and not driving long enough to heat up the system seems to clog them up a lot faster. They actually recommend highway driving and towing to burn the soot. When they do clog u must take to dealer and do stationary regen with computer hooked up.
I have 37,000 miles and waiting for my dealer to get parts to replace my unit already. My service manager told me yesterday that he would have talked me out of purchasing my truck if he had seen me prior to my getting it. This is the third time in a month I’ve had to take back for getting engine light on. All different issues.
Wow that sucks sorry to hear that. Sometimes it seems like they are cursed! I’m actually replacing a engine harness now in one for squirrel damage- it nested right under the intake manifold and chewed everything up, $5000 in damage and not covered by warranty. I’ll make a vid on it soon. Hopefully u don’t have any more problems. Thanks for watching!
Great video! Thank you!
Thank u for watching!
Great video. My 2018 goe into regen almost every 300 to 500 miles. I want to pull out this whole system and do a turbo to back exhaust. Have you dealt with any turbo to back exhausts on a Nissan Titan XD so far?
Unfortunately I have not, only stock . Heads up though it will void warranty if u remove . Thanks for watching!
Great video! I have a 2016 Titan XD with the 5.0 Cummins… I have a code P204A DEF pressure sensor issue! Any help would be great… thanks in advance
Finally found someone that is to the point I'm following now thanks
Cool glad it helped!, thanks for watching .
@@johnthemechanic3360 I'm goin for some ase diesel engine test an this is part of if gonna watch it again for sure
John, after getting "DPF filter overloaded, Immediate service required" I removed DPF and cleaned it. Manual calls for Service Re-generation procedure. What is it, and how it can be initiated by the owner? Thank you.
You shouldn’t have to remove it to clean it, There is two types of regeneration active and passive. Active regeneration is when you take it to the dealer they hook the computer up and do it that way it’s real thorough. Passive happens automatically when you’re driving around generally highway driving. Stop and go driving clogs them up big time. Regeneration just burns off all that black soot . Thanks for watching
Great video can you tell me which sensor is the exhaust temperature sensor that displays on dashboard?
I have a 2018 Platinum Reserve Titan XD Diesel that I bought in Fairbanks when my old Nissan Titan died. The display that shows the DEF level never moves from full. Is this a known problem? The local IN dealer tried to fix it but failed.
You need the updates software from Nissan to fix that
Do you have any advice or videos on taking out the the DPF filter? TIA
very helpful
I want toremove the dpf filter and clean it out. Is this possible ? Looks like the sensors on the dpf would be affected. Not sure how to proceed.
John, I have a 2016 Titan XD SL 2WD. I have taken to dealership twice and neither time they could figure this out. My DEF meter on the driver display is not showing even after selecting in menu options to show. I just realized the other day it is also not showing the exhaust temperature getting warmer after driving for an hour on highway. I haven't had any warning lights that DEF is low. The engine only has 10k miles on it. The previous owner blew long block so they replaced and put a wiring harness in as well.... What do you think I'm missing? Is it a sensor that's out?
Update** I found the wire connector on the DEF wire connection for the Decomp was loose and the locking mechanism was broken, could this be the problem?
Yes it sounds like a wiring problem, a lot of harness go bad on those. And if they not installed properly it can be a nightmare. I’d take it back and tell them to recheck it. If something is unplugged there will be a code for it in system
Do you by chance know the bank and sensor number for the EGT? I use the Torque Pro app to monitor my engine parameters and EGT. They are displayed as such: EGT bank 1 sensor 1, EGT bank 1 sensor 2, EGT bank 1 sensor 3 and EGT bank 1 sensor 4.
Would I be correct with assuming that the first EGT sensor you showed was EGT bank 1 sensor 1 and the last EGT sensor is EGT bank 1 sensor 4?
TIA
Hey sorry I didn’t get back sooner I didn’t see the comment for some reason. I know there is a temp sensor on the EGR that measure exhaust temp b4 it mixes with the intake charge air, but b1 sensor 1 is most likely the DOC intake temp sensor ( # 2 in video)- that is first one that reads exhaust gas temp after it has left the engine. There is 5 total on after treatment system- #2 - #4 -#7 - # 12 & # 14 in video. They all reading exhaust gas temp. Hope it helps thanks for watching!
My bad I was looking at text book they numbed differently- so in video it’s sensors #2 - #3 - #5 - #6 - #7
Thanks. I'm still messing with it to figure what sensors I want to read and which ones I don't need.
Hi John I was wondering if I replace a bad nox sensor if you need to do anything with the computer like a active regen or I can swap out the bad front nox sensor code p2201 and it will be good to go I have a 3,000 mile trip coming up in 3 weeks thank you for the video
Amazing
John, excellent video, could not ask for more. I am looking for the SCR outlet temp sensor. Can you please give me the part number, 18 XD. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! Part # should be 22640-EZ42B for sensor about $190 from nissan.
Is there a way to have the show when it's inregen ?
John, I'm a factory Dodge/Jeep Master tech who recently purchased a 2018 Titan XD Cummins. Would love to get my hands on any training material (like the book pictured).
Thanks for watching! It would be hard to get you to book only got one. But I’ll try to post some more technical specs. And some of the training sheets
My truck says my DEF is low but I filled it when it was 20%. It didn’t register that I added 2.5 gallons. Now a few hundred miles later it says it’s going to go into low power mode.
My Nissan Dealership says they can’t help me because they don’t have a Diesel Mechanic.
What’s wrong? Is there a way for me to fix this?
I took my truck to maus Nissan. They told me my truck was throwing these codes and this is what is going to cost. Diagnostic -Can you find out what parts these are for this code?
[Other]: replace doc and dpf assembly with sensors code p1484 and p200e
$12534.46
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i've wondered how close manufacturers have come to meeting emissions standards with only DOC and SCR...
I had a 16 XD with the Cummins. Have the newer ones gotten more reliable? Had a lot of trouble with the 16 but would like to get in a newer one if the bugs have been worked out
Yes they slowly getting better- first year was the worst year for sure. Electrical bugs are worked out pretty good
@@johnthemechanic3360 any thoughts on the main bearing failures that are starting to come up on the 5.0 Cummins?
@@jamesg6071 Aint really seen many main bearing failures yet but have been seeing wire harness issues on cylinder 5, connector burning up. There seems to be different problems in different parts of country
Isnt the oxydation cat reducing HC and CO ?
What sensor with go off when the EGR is leaking coolant?
My SCR failed after 23,000 miles. No warranty dealer wants $4000 to repair it. Can I bypass it if so How?
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How can I get deeper tone out of the exhaust on mine without deleting the DPF system and voiding the warranty?
I haven’t seen too many options for these yet unfortunately, all I have been able to find is the last section from after treatment to tip that has a little bit larger pipe- but haven’t heard one installed. I’m afraid to get any real change it would void warranty. If I come across anything new I will let u know- thanks for watching!
Not possible, delete it, tune it and egr delete. If you don’t the truck is less reliable.
Can you by any chance tell me where the egt sensor 5 is located?? I have codes 2482 and 2481..
Eli I am having the same problem with P2481 bank 1 sensor 5 low. I only have an issue when it is raining leading me to believe I have a connection issue or wiring issue. did you every find B1S5? there is very little good information out there on this.
Any chance I can contact you and ask some questions?
Also if you can also send me a part number? Can’t seem to find it online
Man I'm having trouble with mine
Plz shear full details
All this means poor fuel economy,turbo lag,EGR failure, and turbo failure. I would like to get my hand on the Nissan manual lol
The only breakdown we need is the one when we take that stupid shit off and straight pipe and tune it.
pull all this crap off and gain engine life
Lol yea they do zap the engine power big time. complicated and expensive too, thanks for watching!
This system is trash. Can't even handle cold weather without giving DEF system errors and going into limp mode. This shit is so common yet Nissan refuses to cover it under warranty.
Better just to delete these stupid systems and not have to worry about them lol. I won't be buying another diesel with this crap on it
Slap a delete pipe on for daily use and keep the EPA shit handy in case you ever have to bring it in, for whatever reason.
get rid of it all