WTF is going on at Sig Sauer?

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  • @JohnFrancoNH
    @JohnFrancoNH 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Bro i work at SIG and agree with you 100% most of the optics absolutely suck if you know anything about quality glass. Just stick to the the tried and true optics brands that make proven optics. Hopefully we can develop some world class optics down the road that arent all named romeo lol

    • @how-i-roll-rb5796
      @how-i-roll-rb5796 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not sure where or what you do with them but there enough & still on fence but might get a membership to range as I need to get more range time in. Though I try to blend in I do sort of stand out(even though I can't stand lol)
      As a company I personally can't speak more highly of as they have been very accommodating & not bs as I have many friends that also work there at all levels(only have had one minor issue & really not w/ Sig it was there contracted security & wasn't the guy working, it was his rentacop boss watching cameras remotely). Because of my situation they been super helpful though they still do stupid crap like the axg grip mod recently came out for $800 like wtf that's stupid. personally I think they should go back to what there known for quality guns & leave accessories to others or have a few but honestly like when I heard about them having a light line I wasn't interested as I have used Streamlight & SF for many yrs & have trust in them.
      But like when 1st legion came out I was like I bet every model will have a legion tier bam now it's like axg(I actually thinking about going back to 229/226 for comp & steel frame felt great but div I shoot can't use a comp also not spending $2300) yet it's next to impossible to get the caliber they created 357sig like my original duty weapon was a p226 which I still own & have both barrels(at time most Leo's carried 40's) unfortunately I had an accident at work & regrettably sold my 229 & was like I can get another one & hard to get a optic cut & rail version in 40, 9 no issue there was only a small run of the 229 Legion in 40 with optic cut.
      But no company is perfect & all make decisions that from consumer levels looks stupid though I would like to see the exc level. but they hire smart people or employee smart people for a reason like 10+yrs ago there is a reason they hired a former Kimber Employee or like they have methods to their ways like you can apply for certain jobs but some depts have done their homework & like military in a way they choose who they think will be best & they usually do well. Though I don't get into politics but for most part most people that work there are content and enjoy what they do & though not recent but like I know someone that started entry level pos & comp provided classes and made various moves and they have a great job. Which if still done is good as not everyone has skillsets required

    • @dmitrykarkov4747
      @dmitrykarkov4747 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Romeo4xt Pro is dope though

  • @flightparamedic505
    @flightparamedic505 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have to agree. The original Sig MSR was junky as all hell. I could see the emitter clearly and it was distracting. The dot itself sucked and was not crisp. Oh and the brightness setting knob, it took so much force to turn it, you feel like you would break it each time you adjusted it.

  • @chaoticcaninejb
    @chaoticcaninejb 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Sig has been trash, the 226 is the last thing they did right. In the beginning Holosun was making their optics for them, then they werent bad actually, once they started assembling their own, complete trash

    • @fl_protection
      @fl_protection 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Complete trash?!? I am not an Sig fan, but I wouldn’t say complete trash.
      I just don’t like the fact that Sig uses their customers as ginny pigs for their first gen of products.
      Then they go making the fixes without saying anything to anybody.
      That’s shady!!
      Once they get it right, it works great. But we all know what they are doing behind closed doors.

    • @murphykenji
      @murphykenji 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      P228 is decent too.

    • @airmann4673
      @airmann4673 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      P320 axg legion is a really good pistol

    • @PistolPeterson859
      @PistolPeterson859 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      P365 line totally changed the CCW landscape. From the standard version to the X Macro’s, they're great EDC’s.

    • @T20-c8f
      @T20-c8f 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I HATE Sig so much man so much! But still I love the P365 I got my wife and the Romeo 4xt pro is great, as well as the virtus.
      I dont own the virtus or the optics. They do make some good stuff. But I HATE Sig!

  • @dwightdhansen
    @dwightdhansen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    9:49 the P225 is a single stack, compact P220.
    AKA known as the P6 when issued to West German Police.

  • @RepentorPerish77
    @RepentorPerish77 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    P365 is a tried a true platform at this point…love my AXG Legion and Scorpion…

  • @House_of_Zodd
    @House_of_Zodd 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I've got like 4 romeo 5s for the price its a great option imo

  • @paulfrancois7653
    @paulfrancois7653 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What about the Romeo 7?

  • @covertguy1575
    @covertguy1575 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have two Romeo 5’s and a Romeo MSR Gen II. They’ve held up decently so far…

  • @dgee1175
    @dgee1175 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    SIG optics are rebanded chinesium.

    • @jcarter855
      @jcarter855 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      THIS, some are hits & some are misses.

    • @mytquin7605
      @mytquin7605 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      iv'e had way better luck with holosun and cylee than my sig dots that are continuing to need warranty replacements.

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @mytquin7605 yeah the cyelee stuff is wildly good for the price tag

    • @JR15A2
      @JR15A2 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mytquin7605 Those are both chinesium too.

    • @mytquin7605
      @mytquin7605 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JR15A2 yup

  • @milspecmike8440
    @milspecmike8440 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am absolutely no Sig fanboy, in fact, outside of the P226, I think their pistols are garbage, the one rifle I had from Sig didn’t function, BUT, the MSR was cheap, I got 3 of them for $70 a piece, 2 of 3 reside on rimfire rifles I use in competition, they have been working for 2+ years in that role, they are not Trijicon bright, but I’ve shot in full sun summer days and had no issues picking up the dot. I personally don’t care about the naming scheme, if you see a cheap optic, expect it to be cheap. I was expecting more based on the title than ripping Chineseum low end inexpensive optics.

  • @Just_a_guy093
    @Just_a_guy093 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    early comment in the video but is the romeo 9t ok? im saving for one... or two...........

  • @ianaquila1858
    @ianaquila1858 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    SIG is throwing sh!t at the wall at every price point. They are a marketing company and you are the QC and Beta testers. Also, owned by a Cohen…..

  • @2amichaelj
    @2amichaelj 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Why get the MSR when the Romeo5 exists for only $20 more? MSR lines are Sigs budget line.
    Have you read what Holosuns names are for their optics? 403B, 403R, 503B, HE503CU, 507k, 407C... you act like that makes sense.

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah the msr I bought on a crazy deal. With holosuns though everything means something. The higher the number the notes upgraded the model. Then the letter after the number indicates size typically.

  • @msquared9605
    @msquared9605 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really wanted to like my 4t pro… but when it came with only 3 screws on the mount installed, and the reticle was significantly canted, I had to return it to primary arms and get an Eotech instead

  • @fiascodon8996
    @fiascodon8996 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you might have gotten a lemon bro… The MSR I had was a little too bright on high setting for me

  • @helixx92
    @helixx92 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used a MSR once and it had weird fucked up parallax with both eyes open but was fine using one eye. Like wtf how?

  • @762x69
    @762x69 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Lmao, I'm dying over here bro. 2 out of 5 of my Romeozeros have died within two years (sent one back to Sig, they sent it back saying it worked....it didn't smdh). Slowly replaced by Swampfox optics but I do love my sig 7s and 5 (1st gen) for my rifles.

    • @leroyatleroys
      @leroyatleroys 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      All my Holosuns are still truckin' 5 years later. It's a great time for affordable optics.l in general. But I can't really see a lot of reasons for going Sig.

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah holosuns are solid!

    • @how-i-roll-rb5796
      @how-i-roll-rb5796 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      When I was looking for a rmrc yrs ago besides reviews but the plastic/poly housing was a big thing I didn't like. There wasn't many options at time & I took a leap of faith on brand never heard of SwampFox & own a bunch of their optics now and warranty which I used once was great only had two issue & though it made me mad end of day they made it right (lost a screw & they wanted stupid $ for a single screw like u sent me 10+ I didn't need how about I trade them back w/ RMR u get a bunch of them) the second issue & more of a personal thing is battery on the bottom of some.
      Not knocking HS as I have a few but a buddy had the 507 Comp & of the 15 shots I liked it and bought one but won't lie I have more time with my SF even after 500rds with HS Comp & unofficial match I went back to using my SF for competition though have it on something else & works great. Also there are a lot of agencies that used to issue more expensive ones which now issue HS.
      I been fortunate enough to use many brands over the yrs & like guns or anything when someone has multiple items one may have flaws or be junk also not saying that this happened here or the case but have seen it with most companies is the clones or fakes & they are getting better at making them hard to tell. like few months ago was looking at the used section and rifle had a eotech clone which was a really good fake, those can hurt brand as well & know there are Sig clones out there

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @how-i-roll-rb5796 see I have a shitty opinion of swampfox too, got two in trades and didn’t even make videos because it would have been “this thing fucking sucks” and then the end. They haven’t responded to me testing anything either and I won’t spend money on them just because of my previous experiences

    • @how-i-roll-rb5796
      @how-i-roll-rb5796 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @randyreviewsit If you don't mind me asking you mentioned getting them on trade were they NIB or used? I am not biased or trying to take sides yes I like them but I have had few issues fortunately resolved I was just wondering bc I have (tech still do) trade things like one was a sl tlr wml it had some issues & I found out was a demo unit(Streamlight now laser etches DEMO on lights now) but if new one would hope QC would catch it but I wonder if you have my kind of luck & get the 1 out of 1k-?k(whatever production sz is) that's a dud & should of been qc'd & rejected, either way I am sorry you had a bad experience and sounds like not resolved which I hope it does(though I don't know u but tempted to send you a prism not currently using to checkout) though I don't work for or have anything to do with them I do talk about them as I mostly have had good experiences & being medically retired budget has changed so it's a big reason I mention them to friends bc they also offer mil/Leo disc which can be stacked with a sale & who doesn't like to save money. Though nothing I can personally do but its concerning bc I don't want to promote something & someone have an issue if that makes sense. Like the wml though I got it fixed but was mad & didn't talk much about SL until I learned I was traded a demo & it wasn't really on SL it was on the person I made trade with that didn't disclose it(like the I lost the box made sense) but not against all demos like I have a SL Stiron & Toor knife both were displays at a uniform store that closed storefront but kept online sales bc of pandemic closures so minimal touching(molesting)I bought knowing that & price was stupid (like I bought a toor with their disc & got a light too ha) like I'd assume HS QC is better than a temu dot special but being an electronic device there is always chance one gets by for me to buy lol
      Besides the msr few others which I think every agrees is complete garbage I think everyone's going to have different opinions on different optics no matter what like anything,( think of saying like everyone milage will be different) some people are like I only buy x top of line $+$=better, but HS is great example like I remember when people crapped on them(&me) bc of where there made though many are made there or parts from there but ffwd now popular pick.
      Another example like when someone asks me what their first pew should be I offer to take them to a certain public range bc they have shitton of rentals (I may bring some of my own) but this range is great bc you rent by day, caliber, plus ammo where some charge per gun, hourly, +ammo marked up (I view as rip off but people pay). But reason I do this is because everyone is different, and there is so many options(a female friend only wanted try GL & got her to try a few & usually not something I recommend to new shooters being sa but just to mix it up had her try my Kimber ultra carry 1911 45 @ 15yrs mostly A zone hits & she left with a sw pro 1911 compact & rug lcp,month later she got a sig tacops 1911 for nightstand). A mistake I've made I can't tell you how many guns I bought and taken to range to be like this sux and even with a private sale you still lose money like you could buy something not leave the store & it's considered used. So while at the range let them try what they think is for them or something I suggest than have them pick which ones they like best and have them shoot few mags, have done this is enough where usually saves $ vs what I did, but also have had bunch get there first & already know what 2nd will be or buy 2. I also do usually have slightly mod'd ones like certain guns need tweaking like sw mp & tactical tupperware both need triggers swapped & not many have out of box no fee added great sights(1 I can think of I didn't change Styer has a neat triangle front super easy to aquire) though most offer upgraded sights, get what's free & swap to aftermarket as more options also if running rmr might have to change. But optics can be similar & at min go and try a few it's like many things in life there are things which you know are ok- fantastic, cheap junk, some amazing & others hit or miss (prob few more) but good to try or at minimum hold it like HS #'s get confusing at time(but dots for example big difference between halo graphic & prism like there is a lot people don't realize or reticle & real life isn't like cod). But end of the day like pews just bc it cost more doesn't mean it will make you a better shooter if you don't train, have basics and train some more. Though I do think there should be a universal system or at min have like RMR,RMRc, or simply P&R (pistol/rifle ie: P-507, R-510/ Romeo-P1, Romeo-R5)
      [Sorry long I suc as does TBI brain, have a Merry Christmas]

  • @kurtbenedict4928
    @kurtbenedict4928 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Haha. Preach brother 😂. I hear you.

  • @BigPhilsSaws
    @BigPhilsSaws 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You mean you dont want the p320xm18 without thumb safety but the p320xcarry isn't the m18 with or tlwithout the coyote doodoo frame and peanut butter slide. But the p320 compact carry with safety is available as long sd you dint mistake it fir the M18

  • @89medic
    @89medic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a sig romeo zero which was actually supposed to be a zero elite but I didn’t know it wasn’t until a year down the line and the store I bought it from said tough tits which I agree with kind of but that’s a different story.. the zero it absolutely TERRIBLE I have had to change the battery 3 times and in that same time frame zero for any other sites I have. I was able to zero it in after each time I changed the battery but not after this last time. Something is definitely very off with it and I’ve never seen anything like this. No matter what I do it will not zero

  • @LL-be3rh
    @LL-be3rh 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a lot of the Romeo series dots (not all of them). I agree with you about the MSR , I wish I never bought it as it is not good. I don't want to sell it and then someone thi know Sig is bad. I'm stuck with that pic mounted terd. The rest of them that I have are great though.

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LL-be3rh yeah the 5 and the 2 are doing solid for me, just got the 4 like 2 weeks ago

  • @JR15A2
    @JR15A2 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Pretty much everything from Sig USA in the past 20+ years is hot garbage compared to what could be expected from their European entities in the before times. It's hard to beat German and Swiss engineering, manufacturing, and quality control.

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ehh I have been disappointed by all the b&t stuff I have tried thus far

    • @jarreddizzle
      @jarreddizzle 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m pretty sure the US beat Germany but… 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @JR15A2
      @JR15A2 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@randyreviewsit I'd choose something from he APC series over anything Sig currently makes.

    • @JR15A2
      @JR15A2 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jarreddizzle Definitely not at manufacturing Sig products for the US market.

  • @danielllewellyn5720
    @danielllewellyn5720 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There was a time I really started liking SIG. The red dot for their 365 took a dump after about a year. no big deal, it was cheap and there are better options now. The thing that really gets me is they advertised the cross as swap a barrel and change the caliber of your rifle.. Over two years later no barrels or extensions available. I refuse to buy anything SIG until they make the fucking barrels, or even just an extension available.

  • @TNTactical
    @TNTactical 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Zero is trash. 100% agree. So is the MSR. Only one I've liked is the Romeo 5. The gen 2 is really good

  • @ChuckSneed88
    @ChuckSneed88 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think as an optic company they're ok (their super expensive stuff is stupid and their pistol optics are trash) but their guns are outright horrible. I can maybe respect some swiss sig but the rest is absolute garbage.

  • @EDC-richard-Cranium
    @EDC-richard-Cranium 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have the Romeo 4s so far I like it never tried anything else that sig puts out but I like it better than my aimpoint T2.

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah the 4 I like and the 5 seems decent

  • @helixx92
    @helixx92 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dont forget the Romeo 4,4s,4h,4t,4xt pro.

  • @mossydog34
    @mossydog34 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe I'm old-fashioned but its aimpoint or nothing for me. I've had holosun malfunction on me, and I never bought sig optics because of the billboard logo.

  • @isaiahaguilar5977
    @isaiahaguilar5977 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now I’m debating getting a P365 AXG Legion

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I love my p226 legion so far I say as long as it’s not their 1911 or 320 go for it

    • @RepentorPerish77
      @RepentorPerish77 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have the P365 AXG Legion and it’s been 100…ran it through a course in 90 degree NC heat and humidity and it was flawless through 350 rounds….its been 100 and a great gun

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @RepentorPerish77 that is the only thing with metal guns I don’t like is the heat. Last time I used the LTT 92 it got wildly hot

    • @RepentorPerish77
      @RepentorPerish77 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@randyreviewsitsitting in the sun it got really hot which was a draw back

  • @seaocean4868
    @seaocean4868 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i can barely believe anyone would give sig money period. Their guns are garbage and their sights are worse, yet the sig cult denies any wrongdoing. its amazing how fangirls will enable are awful company to stick around. The world would be better if sig went out of business. Their pistols are known to blow up, its normal and commin and comp shooters just laugh it off as it happens constantly. That's just one of MANY issues that are common and unacceptable.

  • @terminalva
    @terminalva 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I got an MSR Gen 1 with my AR as part of a bundle deal. I took it to the range, and it seemed ok, but I still quickly ordered a Holosun HS503CU. I do have the Romeo 5, and it's pretty good. I plan on getting the Holosun 510C soon. I was shocked they made an MSR Gen 2, honestly.
    I'll use my Gen 1 on a 22 lr or something to go plinking with down the road. But for now, I'll go with the other selections that I have.

  • @jbcustom3745
    @jbcustom3745 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the Romeo 8t is a top tier optic, I would put on par with an Eotech, although I don't have as much time as I do with the Sig then I do eotech but so far rock solid. Tango MSR is also a good budget LPVO I have a 1-8. I want to try a Romeo 4 soon. With that being said you should not be buying any dots under 4t they are horrid, Holosun is better for the price

    • @randyreviewsit
      @randyreviewsit  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jbcustom3745 I have the Holosun too wanted to compare them

  • @bobbyharris3764
    @bobbyharris3764 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Romeo 5 Only. xD

  • @freddyw4555
    @freddyw4555 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Made in China?

  • @jerrybrooks7883
    @jerrybrooks7883 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Sig is making a bunch of money! If you don’t like it don’t buy it.

    • @murphykenji
      @murphykenji 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Already ahead of you.