New Amazon Echo 4th gen is a Trojan Horse Smart Home Hub
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- The new Amazon Echo 4th gen is louder, rounder, and has a built-in Zigbee hub. In this video, I tested the speaker and connected several devices to it. I’ll go over some important things you need to know before replacing your hub with this.
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0:29 Design
1:16 Speakers
2:40 Zigbee Hub
4:07 Is it a true Zigbee hub?
4:59 Why Echo 4 is important
5:37 Sidewalk
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If Alexa routines were more advanced, could you use this as your main hub?
I dont think so. Im unsure if i should buy smartthings
Not everything works with Alexa. I personally think unless you can attach something like Home Assistant to it I don’t think Alexa will ever be a hub.
I'd use Home Assistant as my automation platform, but Alexa as the hub.
Not really because the status of devices is real time in smartthings, the alexa app is rather poor.
@@KTibow how do you do that. That's the only thing holding me back from buying it
like the features, setup was difficult for some of my devices (August Door lock, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxhB5YOMNj04GuoAosExygP4cH-dKeb4aB Bose speaker)... but all switches and outlets (5), thermostat, tankless water heater. Unfortunately all I can do is turn on/off Bose. It doesn't support volume or changing channels, but I believe that is due to the particular speaker I have.... Worth getting if you already have other devices to use it with... I don't sit around and ask Alexa questions much so that doesn't really matter to me....
This guy is literally so cool, he just does smart home stuff and that’s all, keep up the good work, I like that your not trying to be anything else like other you tubers
Great review sir! Like the talks on the ZigBee and Sidewalk protocols.
Lots of good info here! The sound of the Echo sounded quite a bit better.
The 4th gen echo devices look really cool as well. Mediatek has done a good job powering them
Always good quality information..Thanks
"Ohhh the Zigbee!"
The hub aspect was the bit that ALMOST made me jump for it. I've paid the "early-adopter-tax" before and now I'm a touch more cautious. I'm sure they'll sort compatibility and automations out. My 2d gen dots are begging to be upgraded (as soon as I find a way to re-purpose them too).
I'm really excited for it, and with Zigbee the possibility of fast, local control exists. I saw another video where it was hard to watch the delay and it reminded me of the Wyze Band and that was really disappointing BUT, it is an early unit and will hopefully get better.
It's great to hear your thoughts about the Zigbee hub. I had similar connection issues which is odd since I hadn't seen those before with the 2nd Gen Echo Show. Your end clips are the best!
Yeah it’s a weird bug that could get fixed with an update. Thanks Brett!
Another great informative video. 👏🏻
Hey Reed, Can you please make a video talking about best ways to automate a bedroom with the google assistant or the apple homekit. this would be REALLY helpful.
Reed, as a Hub, I’m curious if it can strengthen my connection between Wyze sensor and a Wyze bridge that works sometimes. If it can, I’ll be all over it.
I gave away my Echo plus and got a HomePod, using shortcuts also lets me not need ifttt for complex routines.
You're my new favorite sub. Thanks for all your videos and the wonderful / hilarious content.
What I like about the old Amazon Echo puck is the possibility to place a funko pop on top :)
This.
Just bought one, Black Friday, for $45, to function as my ZigBee hub to manage motorized shades from Smartwings. This saved me thousands compared to the same vial Lutron Serina. The price was definitely right!
I wonder if a connection can be made between the spherical shape and the Amazon Spheres in Seattle or if it was purely a functional move to get better sound.
Hey Reed, random question but would you recommend the Samsung connect home pro?
Hey, would you consider this a worth while upgrade to someone (such as me) who already has an Echo Plus 2nd Generation, and an Echo studio? I know I could upgrade the Echo plus to this and keep the temperature sensor, and hub, in one unit, but would it be worth it? and would I gain anything. Thanks
So if i was to get Sengled bulbs, do you recommend I just use the zigbee hub in the Echo? Or get the sengled smart hub?
Can it work with with Wyze? I’m ready to buy and send out Christmas gifts
Thanks for sharing. Great video.
can you do a video on how to return a home assistant?. Is there anything to delete? Will everything I programmed on the app still work on a replacement device?
5:54 "It's supposed to be really secure." Famous last words.
Should I be concerned about buying Zigbee devices right now with Amazon and others working on CHIP to replace it?
Is the Zigbee hub really a plus when the Connected Home Over IP standard is still at least several months away from being published, never mind that hardware containing the standard is even further out?
Can you use homepod as hub with out with out internet (locali)
Hi. So I have connected a few wall light switches easy with the Alexa with the built in hub.
And they all work fine. But how would I then install them on to a separate app ??
For example to create scenes with sensors. Or can it all be done through the Alexa app ??
Thanks 👍
Do you have any news on google discontinuing the nest secure?
So I am reading that this could let you use your Hue bulbs without your Hue hub. Do you know if this is true and, if so, how many bulbs/lights could it support? I am up to 2 Hue hubs right now and would love to get one of these Echoes if I can phase out 2 other hubs.
will the "side-walk" feature be availbale on echo-dot?
Hey I have a question, I have Alexa dart and I just want to know with this fourth generation echo does it have a belt and recorder camera? And also how is the quality using this when if you do record? Because when I had my eye vision I was always using video editor to sync the music into my timeline which I can’t do that anymore so I’m just wondering does this have like a belt in the camera so we can actually record for you I lost my eyesight back in 2018 and has the mic and how many miles does it have i’m using my voice over from my iPhone and it messes up sometimes so if my words don’t make sense it’s my voiceover. Thanks
So how do we use the smart hub with other things? im trying to connect my gosund switches to free up router bandwith but cant seem to figure out how
Echo sounds bigger and with way more bass than the new dot. But it's really bad at picking up my voice. Even when I'm being loud. My gen 3 dots pick me up way better from further away.
Great Video Reed, I’m still having a hard time deciding if I should go into the Alexa or Google ecosystem. I have some of both. It really is between the nest and Ring smart home stuff. I like Google’s but am hesitant as they canceled their alarm system. Google seems to give up and abandon certain projects to easy. Thoughts?
Heres the thing. who says you can't go with both? My main ecosystem is Google and their devices. They only tend to kill projects that they don't see beneficial, but they will pretty much always support a previous device even after they make a new model thats typically how it goes with Google. For me I love the assistant cause it comes on my pixel natively and is super helpful when I need to know how to do something or whether I'm navigating my phone hands free but I'm planning on adding this 4th gen to my smart home. The automations and routines are on another level plus with the hub and local control with some ZigBee smart lights should be a breeze. That's why I mainly want it for and I'm hearing that it will be able to use ultra low frequencies to detect whether your home or way. Instead of phone proximity. If thats true, imagine the automation possiblies especially when matter comes around.
Any improvements in Amazon Routines since you released this video?
Okay, so to be clear, this is replacing the tall Echo pro?
lmfao I swear I asked me echo dot what the temperature is today at the exact same time you did and it freaked me out and had me wondering why my echo was responding through the dot and through the TV. It took me a second to realize you had asked it the same question because I wasnt paying much attention to the video at the time.
Can you please tell me can this echo device run a 3rd party tuya compatible app for me and eg all my wifi smart bulbs connect directly to that and not crowd up my wifi network etc and also operate if the internet connect was down? i want a hub that can keep my home network more isolate from my smart bulbs etc thanks in advance and love the videos !!!! :)
There are some people, specially in Brazil, complaining about the mics of the Echo. They are saying it is terrible, worst then echo dot 3.
Is it good to you? Is it like Echo 3rd? Thanks in advance!
I need something like zigbee wach to use it as schedule source for automation offline ..... 😕is it Amazon echo have this option or any solution please ???? Thank's for every thinks
Yolink also goes a long range. And they already work without going into a sidewalk platform. Able to use echo to make yolink announcements also. The yolink speaker hub also announces.
This is lit 🔥 I pre-ordered one.
Awesome stuff! New subscriber here!
"Even work with your neighbour's sidewalk bridges to make a massive mesh system."
I'm calling it. Amazon Sidewalk is the start of Skynet haha
yep...Amazon, giving hackers within an estimated half-mile radius to your network.
Is the speaker much better then the cheaper version of the 4th gen?
Question, the led circle on mine got lower how can I change it back to the original strong glow?
Not sure why, but this thing just gives off Death Star vibes lol
Disney take notes! I smell a special edition
@@jonbarwick5946 hahaha!
Any idea how to query the zigbee channel used by the Echo 4 zigbee hub? Is this chosen dynamically by the Echo or is it fixed and the same with every Echo 4?
Are the sound quality the same?? It’s just louder and more bass?
im looking at this to replace my Wink hub, its on its second time down for over 2 weeks now and the people at wink have no idea when it will be back up. so do you think this would be a good replacement?
Probably time for a Christmas light video 😉
Hey, man. Wondering if you could help me solve my problem since youseem to be a genius in all this. Lol. I'm building an office outside of my house and with the weather as cold as it is, I want my office heated up by the time I head out there each morning.
I'm planning to get a ductless mini-split to heat it, but don't see any way to start it from my house. Any suggestions?
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It will mean the world to me if u answer this
I have an iPhone XS Max but it’s not always at home can I write nfc tags from it and then use them with my iPhone 8 which I always have with me
Pls ans
Can Tuya zigbee devices be connected to the zigbee hub within the echo dot? Or would I have to get the Tuya hub?
Will it work with my old hub
I am attempting to connect this Echo 4 (hub) to my Schlage electronic door lock. Alexa says it is connected, but always tells me there is a problem with the lock. The lock works fine with my ring alarm app. I am assuming the problem is really Alexa. Hard to find much info on the web concerning this.
I just want something to run my lights and a few plugs... would this work
I ordered it. I need suggestions
Always enjoy your videos. Thurough a informative. Thank you.
I’m glad you like them! I appreciate the support!
Hello, i have question.. Imrotant for me..
Can i use echo 4 hub for philips hue like philips hue bridge ? i own two philips hue bulbs and Philips tv abilight, so a need connect my bulbs to TV and expans ambilight,,so can i use echo insted hue bridge to make this work? thx very much
Amazing video your such a great TH-camR keep up the Spectacular work!
Thanks Ben I appreciate it!
Does echo dot 4th gen has also builtin Zigbee Hub ?
I still have the echo Dot 2gen and listening Music with him it’s connected via Bluetooth with my Hi-Fi
that will provide even better sound than the Echo 4th gen
Can I connect it with aqara zigbee door sensor ?
Do the ikea buttons work now?
It’s now mid January 2022 … the last week I have tried to add several zigbee items to my echo 4th gen which I also bought in the last week. NONE of them connected. I tried to connect each item over 40 times! Extremely frustrating and time consuming for absolutely nothing. I deliberately chose the echo because of the internal zigbee. Seriously thinking of returning the echo 4th gen and just sticking to sengled light bulbs, my plug sockets and my 3rd gen dot.
I wanted to do a fair bit more, but can’t see it without spending an absolute fortune, which Alexa echo 4th gen makes out is possible.
You should do a video on air purifiers
Just bought the echo 4th Gen. It came with a hue bulb so I thought I'd buy a sonoff sensor and connect it so the light would go on and off by itself. However, I am completely at a loss as to how to do this. I downloaded the eWelink app but it doesn't recognise any devices. Am I supposed to add the echo as a device then the motion sensor. If so how? If anyone can help us be very grateful.
I preordered a pair of them... My biggest complaint is the fact that you cant pair two echos together and then pair those echos to a computer or non firetv in stereo mode. I still got a pair of them for my firestick since I can just watch my movies from there via plex. Then when I need to I can just connect one speaker to my laptop which it sucks that I cant use both but it is what it is.
Please do a review for the net eero 6. They say it include a hub as well. Do you think is worth to upgrade mi wife signal and have a Hub all in one. Hello from Dominican Republic
I forget to tell you that I love your video. You help me a lot. Because in spanish there is not a lot of information. You Rock and I love your jokes.
I appreciate it Jonathan! I can look at doing a review of the eero 6, thanks for the suggestion!
I have two of these and they have been a pain. Drops off my network, are slow, and the Zigbee hub won’t hold the two lights that came with them. I’ve spent hours with Tech Support and they still screw up.
This guy can literally do anything...
tuya devices would be compatible??
I got my 4th gen Dot today, but noticed when adding it to announce in a routine that it was grayed out , any way I can fix this? It announces when I select all devices but not individually help
I noticed that too on mine. Must be some issue with the new devices since I checked that my settings were right. At least I think they are. It’s annoying either way but I’m sure it will be fixed soon.
I'm having real trouble with my Philips Hue bulbs. It just won't discover them at all despite making them discoverable, turning bulb off for 10 seconds and back on. Moving echo 4 closer to the bulb etc. Echo dot 4 is fine detecting them on Bluetooth. Crazy.
I wonder being as these have a Bluetooth low energy hub inside will they be able to control a switchbot bot ?
Thank for answering some questions I was thinking about. Keep up the good work brother. Please keep use updated on compatible devices.
I’m glad to hear it was helpful! Thanks and will do!
I haven't bought anytime yet ... I don't know what's wrong with me I buy Amazon by the truckload every year you have calculator. I just don't know I don't know if it's a shape or if I'm getting old or what or if is the shape of the world right now. Still great review catch you later
I find it odd that Amazon made this Echo a concealed Zigbee hub and didn’t also include ZWave as that is the system that Ring, an Amazon entity, uses.
It is odd isn’t it. Possibly cost around licensing. I don’t know all the details about the Z-Wave Alliance and how it all works for businesses.
About control. With Zwave, it is tightly controlled and they have to buy the radios from Zwave. Amazon doesn't have any direct control over it. Zigbee isn't controlled in the same way, just a standard, and they can make their own hardware and do more proprietary things with them. Lack of control here is why there is often more capability issues with zigbee. Ring had already developed their alarm Zwave before Amazon bought them. Interestingly, the alarm base station is said to have a zigbee radio but apparently isn't turned on.
What's your take on this after a year of updates?
but ill never use the Zigbee hud why i got the new small one
Does anyone knows if there is a wireless button (bettery powered not inwall) that's working with echo gen4?
Nice! I started a channel focused on building voice technology into your business!
Great review!!! I HAVE ONE CUESTION... Please PLEASE tell me where did you buy that black modern lamp where you put a hue bulb ??? I have been looking for a lamp like that...
Thanks!!
Thanks! Here’s the link amzn.to/3jnFTbG it’s a great lamp.
When I connected echo to my smart tv firestick, it switched the sound output to the echo from tv. Not wanted.
I have a Smartthings hub and Smartthings sensors. Could I just use the echo instead? I don’t use zwave at all.
I didn’t test the all the SmartThings sensors because I didn’t want to disconnect them all from my SmartThings hub but the SmartThings motion sensor was listed on the Amazon page as compatible. You would lose a lot of functionality with your automations but if you’re not using your SmartThings hub and can get away with simple automations right now then it would probably be fine.
Can you please answer these two and a half questions?
1. Can you pair two of these for stereo sound to a TV via Bluetooth?
2. Can you pair a Hue Bulb without having to download the Hue app? Is it 100% free from the Hue Bridge setup?
For the first, yes and you can do it with no latency using the Fire Stick. www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=GDFMQWDYT5MCAEA4 or just pair it with another Echo device as well.
Second question, yes you can pair the hue bulb without needing the hue app or hue bridge. The Echo is all of it in one package.
I think the mission with the echo fourth generation is to help assist far as a hub and Wi-Fi extender. It’s not meant to connect 1 million things. That’s why you have the echo show in the echo studio that could take on. With you having the echo fourth generation premium sound it should give you music in close proximity where you are in the house like your bedrooms small little rooms. But I believe they building a system to ask Bacon or mesh together and play as one home theatrical system throughout the home
Whats the song at the beginning 0:00 ???
So, only the larger, regular echo has the zigbee hub? That kinda sucks. Was really hoping the clock version of the dot had it too.
Why’d they put a zigbee hub of they’re switching to CHIP?
Especially with the introduction of IFTTT Pro, Amazon could full a big gap in the smart home world of being the easiest way to do automation. Great review!
I agree, IFTTT kind of took themselves out of the game. Thanks Aidan!
@@SmartHomeSolver If Amazon could make a system to manage routines via voice they could really take over automation. Think if you could just say "Alexa, everyday at sunset, turn off the family room lights" to setup an automation or even more advanced stuff like "Alexa, disable my Family Room Motion routine for 1 hour". If Amazon could create a system like that it could really help get automation to everyone and take hold of what IFTTT left in the space.
Thank you Reed.
Hey Reed the two videos that you made were very great i'm not sure of using it as a main hub I would rather have a separate hub I wanna know would you use it as a main hub Reed
If I could have all the SmartThings functionality for automations and what Zigbee devices are compatible. I would do it. Amazon has been pretty committed to the Smart Home space for a long time and I would imagine they will support it for a while.
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You should have let us know who many watts each speaker has.
I asked many times in many forums ...but still I didn't take answer.
I have echo dot 4gth gen. Do I need Zigbee hub? if yes then must be the same company with my device?!
I have tradfi getaway and tradfi on off button.....I can't figure it out with Alexa. do you ?! Alexa can't find any ikea item
Everyone is trying to get in on that $100 price point. Echo, HomePod Mini, Nest Audio