I like how the winner said: "There's nothing we can do?".. He genuinely wanted his opponent to continue and keep testing. You don't see that kind of empathy everywhere.
I like the sentiment, and the winner was certainly bummed about how it went down, but it was the losing dude on the right that said “there’s nothing? We can’t do nothing?”
man stop the fairy tale I don't believe every single person in this show is genuin. Not after seeing him trying to act genuin wanting to "do something about it" while he know if that pole didn't crack he'd lose.
What I like about this show is that the contestants are encouraging eachother. It's a mutual interest/respect thing rather than winning at all cost. It was especially visible this episode when the winner was clearly upset when the other weapon failed. It even performed better.
the first weapon had inferior metal, the second had inferior wood. both would have been destroyed in a strength test. IE its really sad knowing it was just a question of which weapon fell apart first.
Seong mi-na is Korean and her weapon is Woldo, which was spread from China to Korea. It is a different kind of weapon from Naginata in Japan. Woldo is a very heavy and powerful weapon that it is said to be killed by weight even if it is not cut.
In the Soul Caliber games you can purchase other weapons that have different effects. I think it started on the third game. A loop hole but it's there lol
They did the Woldo in another episode- you can clearly see the difference between the heavy, powerful woldo and the light and agile naginata. I suspect with the lack of good steel in Japan in the early middle ages there was less armor so the weight wasn't' as crucial.
The guy who won was a great person. He is indeed the kind of person that deserved to win. He took the catastrophic failure from his opponent and asked if there was a way for the opponent to continue with modifications. That is humility.
If you guys interested about: "Does it appears in any games or movie?" - Well yes, it is. The Naginata is appear in the game Samurai Shodown. The character using this blade is Senryo Kyoshiro!
It should be noted that the naginata that women typically used was the ko-naginata, which had a smaller blade than the men's o-naginata. This was because of the heavy pole which makes the naginata slower than a sword, and so the ko-naginata compensates for the women's smaller body mass and strength compared to an armored warrior. What they're making here is the o-naginata.
Thanks guys for making this videos. I really appreciate the effort you put in and the fact that you respond to the viewers wishes, like you did on the history of the blades. Keep it up!
It's something I expected: 1) modern wood treatment makes it very vulnerable to splintering. 2) such tangs are often only held by 2-3 pins which can focus great forces in a small area.
My favorite part of this show is when they feel disappointment from winning on a technicality. Shows they’re here to really test themselves instead of win a quick buck
I have seen to many ash handles break to trust this kind of wood. I would use beech or hickory or black locust instead. To my experience these 3 are the most reliable.
@@giftsvampen right, like a good shiny polish steel blade would really be preferred over the Damascus that is almost never done up into any actual patterns.
The fact is none of these are The original Damascus (Wootz Damascus) which it would be interesting if someone tried to do it, The Pattern Wielded Damascus looks nice and all but it's a different material.
most of these people are hobbyists, they lack critical knowledge on the weapons, they put too much focus on the blades and forget that a weapon is made of multiple parts and the handle is sometimes more important than the blade.
Honestly, firing the handle a little, to where the seam begins and ends, probably would have helped a lot, too. Wood hardens with a little bit of toasting.
@@TheWhoamaters As a person who has used a store-bought rake (ie, literally anyone who has done yard work), that made me cringe. After all the work he put into the metal, too.
Even if it's months note that it takes alot of work to get the internal mechanism to even be able to work. Along side the little pieces. If the gun explodes it'll be alot worse should someone be fatally injured.
Quenching is really easy to test if it happened correctly. Just using a file and seeing if it glides along without biting in. The most important part is the tempering. Which is almost never shown. The way you are tempering the blade changes it's characteristics to bendable or brakeable or right in between. Which is the most preferable.
The handles are nice (if a little on the thick side), but Theo's blade looks very light and thin for a Naginata. I feel pretty bad for Joe, that looked really nice for his first(?) Tadayoshi.
He should've chose oak instead of ash, his blade looked way more stable and stronger then his counterpart's weapon was. Shame we didn't see more action...
@@anomalyp8584 You are right, oak is more expensive then ash ( not 'very' expensive in my opinion) but is easier to sand and work with in my experience. And besides, we're talking about a slim wooden pole, weight won't make that much of a difference between those two.
It's always the weakest link that breaks. Both men were experts at forging and knew how to work metal. But they did not have the same level of expertise when it came to woodwork and construction.
Well depending on how the thing is forged it wouldn’t be practical or even possible to do that without harming yourself. I seen one video were the only thing that killed him off in the competition was the crossguard being way too oversized and thick that it would of broken the guys wrist and he was wearing a thick leather glove and it still nearly sprained his wrist
Yesss the naginata!!! A Kusarigama would be dope to see on the show in the future. It’s a sickle attached to a chain/rope, on the other end of the chain/rope there is a pummel/mace/spike
They should get Red-Green to be a judge on this show... "That there is why we have duct-tape. Now if you just *duct-tapes entire handle including the blade* there, that should do er' "
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I like how the winner said: "There's nothing we can do?".. He genuinely wanted his opponent to continue and keep testing. You don't see that kind of empathy everywhere.
I like the sentiment, and the winner was certainly bummed about how it went down, but it was the losing dude on the right that said “there’s nothing? We can’t do nothing?”
man stop the fairy tale I don't believe every single person in this show is genuin. Not after seeing him trying to act genuin wanting to "do something about it" while he know if that pole didn't crack he'd lose.
Oh God no he did not !
@@gerardmagnarelli558 you can see the dude that won's mouth moving... it was clearly him that was asking if they couldn't do a quick fix
It was fake and forced reaction. Teeny tiny little guy
I love how the guy who won was bummed that the other guys weapon failed
I think he was also disappointed because he wanted to win by the normal way. By outperforming rather than the other guys breaking
I think he was dramatic!
Proper sportsmanship, that’s what it is.
Nah he was just a hypocrite trying to not look too happy to win ! People who talk too much at the wrong moment are suspicious to me ...
@@DySeith17 it's the second time that guy came and won. He didn't really show "being happy" the first time either. That's a sportsmanship
The guy who won was genuinely upset that they couldn't keep testing his opponent's weapon. Wholesome
Looks like you're having a hard time spotting a hypocrite !
@@DySeith17 hypocrite? why? you know him, you know how he felt? some people
@@Vil3mos There are many psychology channels on TH-cam to help you learn, but it's mostly part of my studies, medical studies ...
@@DySeith17 You going to explain and back it up with knowledge, or you just leaving an empty claim?
@@DySeith17 what kind of "medical studies" are you doing? Anyone doing college at all does a basical psychology and sociology class.
What I like about this show is that the contestants are encouraging eachother. It's a mutual interest/respect thing rather than winning at all cost. It was especially visible this episode when the winner was clearly upset when the other weapon failed. It even performed better.
It’s brutal how they say “catastrophic failure” to the guy who already suffered a huge blow. Way to toughen a man up lol.
It is a technical term. People are used to it. The bend in the winners blade was a non-catastrophic failure.
It sounds harsh but it really is a term that describes anything that ceases to function as a result of or alongside it being physically destroyed
I think if the wood hadn't split he would have won, the other guys blade was bending and it probably wouldn't have survived a strength test
agreed
the first weapon had inferior metal, the second had inferior wood. both would have been destroyed in a strength test. IE its really sad knowing it was just a question of which weapon fell apart first.
@@steelgreyed I think they would've strikes the metal
I love the acknowledgement of the impact of weapons in video games. History knows their audience.
Seong mi-na is Korean and her weapon is Woldo, which was spread from China to Korea. It is a different kind of weapon from Naginata in Japan. Woldo is a very heavy and powerful weapon that it is said to be killed by weight even if it is not cut.
In the Soul Caliber games you can purchase other weapons that have different effects. I think it started on the third game. A loop hole but it's there lol
China's Guan Dao is a formidable weapon too.
They did the Woldo in another episode- you can clearly see the difference between the heavy, powerful woldo and the light and agile naginata. I suspect with the lack of good steel in Japan in the early middle ages there was less armor so the weight wasn't' as crucial.
The guy who won was a great person. He is indeed the kind of person that deserved to win. He took the catastrophic failure from his opponent and asked if there was a way for the opponent to continue with modifications. That is humility.
When the guy who won said "There's nothing we can do?" I really felt bad...
If you guys interested about: "Does it appears in any games or movie?" - Well yes, it is. The Naginata is appear in the game Samurai Shodown. The character using this blade is Senryo Kyoshiro!
Hisako from Killer Instinct also uses the Naginata
The only one i know of was Syeong Mina from Soul blade
Also Ghost of Tsushima. A character named Norio weilds it as his weapon
@@kainoakanoe the monk? I love that game
Also Tenchi Muyo, Inuyasha, and Lone Wolf and Cub
I hope they upload some more battle the judges episodes.
It's always the weapon with the cooler design that fails or breaks. The epitome of "Ballin' but at what cost"
Theo was really wholesome he was upset they couldn’t continue testing. 10/10 good episode
It should be noted that the naginata that women typically used was the ko-naginata, which had a smaller blade than the men's o-naginata. This was because of the heavy pole which makes the naginata slower than a sword, and so the ko-naginata compensates for the women's smaller body mass and strength compared to an armored warrior. What they're making here is the o-naginata.
Hogwarts taught him curses for situations like this.
Hahahahaha
It is nice the competitors show good sportsmanship
Finally! The naginata was what I was waiting for!
I hope they upload some more battle the judges episodes.
The winner’s sportsmanship is so rare nowadays.
Thanks guys for making this videos. I really appreciate the effort you put in and the fact that you respond to the viewers wishes, like you did on the history of the blades.
Keep it up!
It’s a beautiful weapon. But it’s construction was more complicated than people are willing to realize
It's something I expected:
1) modern wood treatment makes it very vulnerable to splintering.
2) such tangs are often only held by 2-3 pins which can focus great forces in a small area.
Reruns? I guess production has stopped cause Cov 19
Yeah this also looked familiar to me
The title says Season 3. New episodes for Season 8 are set to begin airing mid-November.
Nope. I’ve seen episodes where they are wearing masks in the forge.
Now that's sportsmanship. Opponent weapon fails, and they still want them to have a chance to continue
My favorite part of this show is when they feel disappointment from winning on a technicality. Shows they’re here to really test themselves instead of win a quick buck
Now that's good sportsmanship
I have seen to many ash handles break to trust this kind of wood. I would use beech or hickory or black locust instead. To my experience these 3 are the most reliable.
It is really sad knowing "neither" of those blades would have survived a strength test.
I like the brief history they told about the weapon I think they should do that with all weapons
The winner really acted nice.
The tall guy looks like a king of the hill character.
This show makes me hate damascus steel.
Damascus isn't that bad if done correctly like Alec Steele does.
@@azraeiazman Its not that. They all be like, im so special im going for damascus. But, why? If anything this makes me appreciate shiny plain steel.
@@giftsvampen right, like a good shiny polish steel blade would really be preferred over the Damascus that is almost never done up into any actual patterns.
@@giftsvampen ahhh I almost forget how clean plain steel looks. I actually love matte/sandblasted finish on blade. But mirror polish works too!
The fact is none of these are The original Damascus (Wootz Damascus) which it would be interesting if someone tried to do it, The Pattern Wielded Damascus looks nice and all but it's a different material.
8:32 John Cena: "ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?"
Theo is one of my most favourite contestants on the show. It's always a pleasure watching him work.
This happens a lot with polearms on this show- wood can have the same weaknesses as steel.
Love the show and I have seen a lot of good blade smiths but a lot are just lucky.
Very genuine fellow 😐
The winner is a good man he said so many nice words and i m happy that he win
I always wonder why they dont make the poles from dryed young spruces cos it will not crack like dat
most of these people are hobbyists, they lack critical knowledge on the weapons, they put too much focus on the blades and forget that a weapon is made of multiple parts and the handle is sometimes more important than the blade.
@@incediumignis Remember the Jumanji Yari? That guy who always went on about being an expert and then used a rake handle
Honestly, firing the handle a little, to where the seam begins and ends, probably would have helped a lot, too. Wood hardens with a little bit of toasting.
@@TheWhoamaters As a person who has used a store-bought rake (ie, literally anyone who has done yard work), that made me cringe. After all the work he put into the metal, too.
@@swaswj414 Right? Honestly, and the way he took it off didn't help either
Nice Soul Calibur reference
"And my gut lied to me... 😔"
Didn't expect to see Soulcalibur
9:19 that guy is funny😂🤣 what you mean you win. 😂🤣
I love how they are happy when Doug say "it will kill"
They need to make a gunsmithing version of this show
Then people would need months, even years, guns are very complicated.
@@bladedninja8853 months
Even if it's months note that it takes alot of work to get the internal mechanism to even be able to work. Along side the little pieces.
If the gun explodes it'll be alot worse should someone be fatally injured.
They tried. The networks felt it would be in poor taste
when it’s not the actual blade that failed but the wooden handle😞
if they say your blade is heavy, you better wish your opponent's blade will shatter in strength test
Pretty much what i’ve learned is that it usually comes down to the quench
Quenching is really easy to test if it happened correctly. Just using a file and seeing if it glides along without biting in. The most important part is the tempering. Which is almost never shown. The way you are tempering the blade changes it's characteristics to bendable or brakeable or right in between. Which is the most preferable.
Remember, "It's ALL about the shaft"! 😆
Ah Yess Naginata...
I remember watching this episode and the first thing I thought was The League episode and Tacos song.
Imagine going to a sword forging competition and never have build or practice forging one
Here to learn more about naginata via Setsuna from Yashahime
Did somebody noticed, that the guy who won this competition tried to imitate exactly the design of El Chete by
Tops Knives 😉
When the forging part lasts more than half of the video, you know there ir gonna be a failure
Woo SoulCalibur mentions ^^
The handles are nice (if a little on the thick side), but Theo's blade looks very light and thin for a Naginata.
I feel pretty bad for Joe, that looked really nice for his first(?) Tadayoshi.
Omg Rick Moranis is a blade smith now 🤯🤯🤯
Nice sword, I like it and I will make this happen in one day.
He should've chose oak instead of ash, his blade looked way more stable and stronger then his counterpart's weapon was. Shame we didn't see more action...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but oak is very expensive, hard to shape and heavy to wield.
@@anomalyp8584 You are right, oak is more expensive then ash ( not 'very' expensive in my opinion) but is easier to sand and work with in my experience. And besides, we're talking about a slim wooden pole, weight won't make that much of a difference between those two.
@@mattparm228 I have no experience in wood working whatsoever.
It just popped in my mind since the judges always have an issue with a gram too much :p
I believe it's usually made of oak.
Nice that Naginatha
Toby McGuire nailed it!
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This is one of thosr explainations that we caused but we dont wanna explain up
Theo is also a two times forge in fire champion, isn’t he?
This was when he was first one the show
Was the crack due to the large tang the blade has that eventually took the space for the wood so it can withstand more force?
FYI, Sung mi-na is a korean lass in soulcalibur series and i think she's holding a korean or chinese weapon
Yeah. It would be more accurate to call it a Woldo or a Hyup Do. Though I do believe a Naginata is one of her alternate weapons in some of the games.
I don't think that counts as a naginata since the blade is too thick
It could be a guan dao
Nobushi would be proud.
Daddy had to come and put out the fire...
best winner ever🏆
I read somewhere that Nanigata was a usual favorite of women warriors.
That's so sad. Not even the blade but the handle
Did they just put wrong weapon in the end of video 10:27??
He spent so much time worrying about the durability of the blade, he forgot about the durability of the handle.
Where my nobushi mains at?
I ain’t heard nothing crack at 8:20
What a genuinly pleasant dude, that winner (Theo)! Glad he won, though too bad it had to go like this.
Didn't know Frank Lampard dabbled in forgery after his retirement before returning to England as a coach
Both weapons were lackluster in my opinion.
Must annoy Koreans that they claimed Seung Mina's weapon was a naginata.
It's always the weakest link that breaks. Both men were experts at forging and knew how to work metal. But they did not have the same level of expertise when it came to woodwork and construction.
The judges should wear protective gear and execute every test regardless of catastrophic failure or otherwise.
You're not testing every weapon fairly then. Plus have you seen some of those failures?
Well depending on how the thing is forged it wouldn’t be practical or even possible to do that without harming yourself. I seen one video were the only thing that killed him off in the competition was the crossguard being way too oversized and thick that it would of broken the guys wrist and he was wearing a thick leather glove and it still nearly sprained his wrist
I clicked this video when i see naginata
Sweet ❤️
Yesss the naginata!!! A Kusarigama would be dope to see on the show in the future. It’s a sickle attached to a chain/rope, on the other end of the chain/rope there is a pummel/mace/spike
Was it only me who waited for the "It will keeel" moment? :/
They forgot that one character from samurai shodown...ibuki!
They should get Red-Green to be a judge on this show... "That there is why we have duct-tape. Now if you just *duct-tapes entire handle including the blade* there, that should do er' "
La lanza es la epitome la anaginata su evulucion la alabarda su renacimiento 😅
I want them to make a charge blade or switch axe from monster hunter
Looking for a corner to cry in a rounded room... man that's sad.
The better blade lost to a better handle
Would have been nice to have one made in shizukagate style with a longer more sword like style.
How to win.
I'm step one: damascus
I guess the best thing about being a guy who makes polearms is that you get a lot of ash?
Nobushi's weapon in FOR HONOR
I just wanna throw that chuck off beef on my BBQ or in my smoker
10 minute video. 8 minutes of people making the blades. This is not going to go well.
there is no way to survive the next test though..