Get a free tennis course inside our Tennis Evolution App. Just click on this link to register for the free course. bit.ly/2Qla2wF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Former Top 100 ATP Pro, Jeff Salzenstein, is exposing the 3 common myths that could be crippling your serve potential. Most players make at least 1 of these 3 mistakes... Do you? bit.ly/3aX3lc4 Also, you could be making at least 1 of the 3 most common footwork mistakes crippling your tennis potential? Checkout Jeff’s “footwork myths” and the solutions to help you play your best tennis. bit.ly/2U98N4H
Sort of being serious here A Masters in Exercise Physiology with a minor in Psychology would be a good start as they are essentially doctors of movement and it seems that to be a good tennis coach these days with the raw material we now have to work with you need to be able to diagnose movement issues, balance problems, and how to correctly diagnose and treat them so the person now has a chance to be able to do tennis. Psychology to help keep it fun and keep them motivated and easier for you understand your students to help them be the best they can be for the amount of effort they are prepared to put in. Tennis technique is easy, over coming the obstacles and limiting factors for your tennis students not so easy. IMHO.
Way to go Jeff. Very timely .. with tennis clubs shutting down due to Covid-19 outbreak, this drill can be done in the basement (doesn't require tall ceilings)!. My 13 yo is learning and I will walk him thru this today! To that matter - if there are other "sharpen your saw" type of drills for intermediate players that can be done in house, do let us know!
Thank you for watching Hemen! That's awesome, love the attitude and commitment. Keep it up. What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel? Jeff.
This drill shows how subtle pronation is , truthfully as you have said, you shoulder MUST BE FACING THE NET, otherwise you're going to feel a pain in the upper arm as and shoulder, ( if your chest face the net ) Thank you Sir .
I have a very strong serve and feel like I’ve hit a wall of improvement. I’ve struggled with developing pronation but my serve and I hope this video helps 👍
I am suffering from shoulder pain because of my wrong serve, but it's getting better. I think this drill can help me like the other Jeff's videos do. Thank you~
i have said it before and will say it again, you put out the most insightful videos on the Internet. Great job again. The concept is locked and loaded in my brain.
Jeff: You make an excellent point about body position at contact point. It will be almost impossible to pronate if your body is straight. To pronate: Your body postion must be shoulder over shoulder. Otherwise it will be nearly impossible. Not only that put can lead to injury if you are not shoulder over shoulder.
Great video Jeff Was a bit skeptical at the title, thought it was another click bait, but you actually showed more than you should have for free. The biggest issue I've encountered primarily is building enough body awareness to even begin to replicate your drill. Like you say in the video, you get hundreds of videos asking for help and I bet most of them are not even close to replicating what you asked to be done in the drill, with the student being frustrated that your drill doesn't seem to do all that much, which isn't your fault or the drills fault but a lack of awareness of the person attempting to replicate the drill. You are going to ask what other content I would like to see and building awareness and in depth bio-mechanics drills would be on the top of my list. That was a great coaching tool to have the student still go to the correct position at the end of the technique even if they do it incorrectly, I will have to use this. P.S. Still want a video on the role of the front foot on ground strokes. Had a person tell me they can't use their front foot/knee/leg correctly because they have knee pain / injury and I pointed out that they have knee pain / injury because they are putting all their rotational force through their front knee because they are not using their front foot correctly, or they cheat the mechanics and then wonder why their ground strokes are so effortful instead of effortless.
Hello, Jeff! Amazing lesson as always. I would love to see a lesson focused on balance improvement drills, specially on the serve and forehand. Best regards!
@@TennisEvolution, Hello, Jeff! By balance I mean body balance. On the serve, for example, I believe that many players (myself included) tend curve their bodies in weird ways to compensate for a lack of body balance and control. To be more specific, I think that a lower back excessive curvature (such as I've seen you mentione in a couple of lesson, even pointing out a bad curvature in Andy Roddick's lower back) happens due to lack of body awareness and not knowing how to distribute our weight properly. Another issue I ofteb notice in amateur-intermediate level players is the way they land after the serve, which is very imbalanced as opposed to the pros smoother landing motion. Thank you very much!
Great tips I haven’t seen elsewhere about the upper body and arm movements. Would love to see a vid/instruction on what the elbow and shoulder joints are doing between trophy position through contact. I’ve improved my serve a ton from your vids but I’ve developed a UCL injury from practicing. I’m guessing bad form somewhere. I throw left handed but play tennis right handed. So the serve motion is tough for me to learn, like learning to throw with your off hand.
@@TennisEvolution I did try it last night. I had 30 minutes before our doubles match started. I saw 6 or 7 serves bounce up so high it blew my mind. A few times I noticed I got lazy and quit using my core so it seems for me what you were saying about using your core is super important and stay engaged during the entire service motion with your core while simultaneously thinking loose arm and wrist. Wow, I was so amazed, I showed this video to my kids who are 15 and 13 year old last night when I got home. I made them watch it lol. I told them this is what we'll work on the next few weeks. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much for this video. I took it to the court and I had immediate good results. I finally understood how to pronate properly but I think the greater progress on my serve was the shoulder over shoulder position at the moment of contact. With the side bend position I think I even reach the ball higher than in my former upright position.
Thanks for the tips. Would you consider doing a video about "swinging up and out" when serving? I somehow came across this idea but was not completely sure what it means. Thanks!
Jeff, can you talk about how there is not just one way to pronate? Some pros, like Sampras, have the elbow up, but Federer does not yet he still pronates. Medvedev is another great example who does not keep the elbow up but is actually very straight.
Great video as usual, Jeff. Can you briefly answer, do you consciously use your dominant hand after you launch into your serve from trophy pose, or do you just let the arm & the racquet come naturally propelled by leg drive & the upper body? If it's the latter, then I'm wondeirng, how do you change direction for the serve?
Thanks! I let the arm and the hand come naturally. You have to aim to your spot , as well as adjust the racquet hand and angle a little bit to change the direction. What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel? Jeff.
One more thing, I really liked your finger wriggle tip. It seems to me that tip really almost forces one to grip mostly with the thumb and I guess forefinger deep in the web of hand, which is a good thing maybe making us reexamine our Continental grip structure.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. Indeed, it does. You need to develop the right mindset and embrace change ;). Let me know how I can help. What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel? Jeff.
@@TennisEvolution Yes, mainly when doing it without a ball, just shadow strikes with the ending of tip of the racquet pointing to the ground like in the video. It is better while hitting the ball and not exaggerating this pronation move.
Thanks for the great video, Jeff! I assume this form of pronation in the video applies to the flat serve(correct me if I am wrong). In your other kick serve video, you mention the pronation also happens. However, how is it different in terms of the body side bent and internal shoulder rotation from here? Does the wiggling finger drill also make sense when doing the kick serve?
Thank you for watching Steven. Check out this video where I discuss pronation on the kick serve in greater detail th-cam.com/video/x6toBHiG8Z0/w-d-xo.html
Dear Jeff, I Iike your videos very much, but I believe to much emphasis is laid on pronation, which is correct in its own value, but the body does not experience because the service motion, when performed correctly, is so fast. Instead it only experiences a snap of the wrist whuch is due to other muscles working. Therefore I believe this emphasis produces a destructive mind set. Pronation on the other hand occurs automatically without giving it much thought. (Paralysis by Anlysis)
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Former Top 100 ATP Pro, Jeff Salzenstein, is exposing the 3 common myths that could be crippling your serve potential. Most players make at least 1 of these 3 mistakes... Do you? bit.ly/3aX3lc4
Also, you could be making at least 1 of the 3 most common footwork mistakes crippling your tennis potential? Checkout Jeff’s “footwork myths” and the solutions to help you play your best tennis. bit.ly/2U98N4H
Sort of being serious here
A Masters in Exercise Physiology with a minor in Psychology would be a good start as they are essentially doctors of movement and it seems that to be a good tennis coach these days with the raw material we now have to work with you need to be able to diagnose movement issues, balance problems, and how to correctly diagnose and treat them so the person now has a chance to be able to do tennis.
Psychology to help keep it fun and keep them motivated and easier for you understand your students to help them be the best they can be for the amount of effort they are prepared to put in.
Tennis technique is easy, over coming the obstacles and limiting factors for your tennis students not so easy. IMHO.
@@Whisper555 Well said. Thanks for your contribution in the topic.
Jeff.
@Mike 1412 Thanks for your comment. I'll add your topic request for our future videos.
Jeff.
Jeff is a brilliant coach. Much of his teaching forms the basis for more recent videos from other instructors.
This is the best explanation and demonstration for developing pronation on the serve.
Thank you Kent! I appreciate your comment.
Great drill Jeff. Don't rotate and maintain 45 degree angle is the best advice everyone needs on their serve. Thanks alot
You're welcome Sam. Thanks for watching ;)
Jeff.
Definitely one of the best videos on YT, on pronation.
So amazing Jeff
Thank you for watching.
I have seen 100 plus videos on pronation but you found a way to add more valuable info.
Thank you Hecks! I appreciate your comment.
Jeff.
I love you Jeff...thank you
You’re welcome, Thank you for the support!
Way to go Jeff. Very timely .. with tennis clubs shutting down due to Covid-19 outbreak, this drill can be done in the basement (doesn't require tall ceilings)!. My 13 yo is learning and I will walk him thru this today!
To that matter - if there are other "sharpen your saw" type of drills for intermediate players that can be done in house, do let us know!
Thank you for watching Hemen! That's awesome, love the attitude and commitment. Keep it up.
What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel?
Jeff.
Very good tip for powerful serve. Pronate and wiggle the elbow. Thanks. Jeff...
You're welcome! Thanks for watching. Wiggle your fingers at the end ;)
Jeff
the great death grip outbreak of 2020...in this trying time we need a hero! jeff will guide us through...
Thanks Dee! Stay strong ;)
Jeff.
Best video on this topic yet. Thanks
Can you show us ur way to master the slice serve with pronation
This drill shows how subtle pronation is , truthfully as you have said, you shoulder MUST BE FACING THE NET, otherwise you're going to feel a pain in the upper arm as and shoulder, ( if your chest face the net ) Thank you Sir .
I have a very strong serve and feel like I’ve hit a wall of improvement. I’ve struggled with developing pronation but my serve and I hope this video helps 👍
Struggling with pronation here. Great info! Thanks Jeff!
You're welcome! Thank you for watching ;)
Jeff.
another great video, Jeff. Many thanks.
You're welcome Paul! Thanks for watching.
Thnak you, thnak you, thank you! This is what I needed to know now I'm really looking forward to the weekend.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching ;) What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel?
Jeff.
I am suffering from shoulder pain because of my wrong serve, but it's getting better. I think this drill can help me like the other Jeff's videos do. Thank you~
Thanks for watching! Focus on recovery hundred percent first. Let me know how I can help .
Jeff.
Muy buena tu didáctica!!!!! Te felicito, no encontré a nadie que enseñe tan bien!!!! Muchas gracias!!! Saludos desde Argentina
Muchas gracias Luis! Un placer poder ayudar y compartir mi conocimiento.
Saludos!
i have said it before and will say it again, you put out the most insightful videos on the Internet. Great job again. The concept is locked and loaded in my brain.
Awesome! Thank you!
Jeff really appreciate your help, it's super helpful!
You're welcome Peter! I love to help ;)
Thanks for your comment.
Jeff.
Jeff, this is your best video. Great suggestions. Thank you!
Thank you Dmitry! Appreciate your comment.
Jeff.
Thanks Jeff :) body side bend is a good tip !
You're welcome Gary! Thanks for watching ;) Glad to help.
Jeff
Thanks Jeff great as ever GIuseppe
You're welcome GIuseppe! Thank you for watching ;)
Jeff.
Great lesson. If one can master the half motion with proper pronarion, they are good to go. Worked for Roddick.
Thank you Jonathan, I appreciate your comment. What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel?
Jeff.
Jeff: You make an excellent point about body position at contact point. It will be almost impossible to pronate if your body is straight.
To pronate: Your body postion must be shoulder over shoulder. Otherwise it will be nearly impossible. Not only that put can lead to injury if you are not shoulder over shoulder.
Thanks Greg!
Great video Jeff
Was a bit skeptical at the title, thought it was another click bait, but you actually showed more than you should have for free.
The biggest issue I've encountered primarily is building enough body awareness to even begin to replicate your drill.
Like you say in the video, you get hundreds of videos asking for help and I bet most of them are not even close to replicating what you asked to be done in the drill, with the student being frustrated that your drill doesn't seem to do all that much, which isn't your fault or the drills fault but a lack of awareness of the person attempting to replicate the drill.
You are going to ask what other content I would like to see and building awareness and in depth bio-mechanics drills would be on the top of my list.
That was a great coaching tool to have the student still go to the correct position at the end of the technique even if they do it incorrectly, I will have to use this.
P.S. Still want a video on the role of the front foot on ground strokes. Had a person tell me they can't use their front foot/knee/leg correctly because they have knee pain / injury and I pointed out that they have knee pain / injury because they are putting all their rotational force through their front knee because they are not using their front foot correctly, or they cheat the mechanics and then wonder why their ground strokes are so effortful instead of effortless.
Hello, Jeff! Amazing lesson as always. I would love to see a lesson focused on balance improvement drills, specially on the serve and forehand.
Best regards!
Awesome! Thanks. What do you mean by balance improvement for serve and forehand. Can yu be more specific about what you are struggling with?
@@TennisEvolution, Hello, Jeff! By balance I mean body balance. On the serve, for example, I believe that many players (myself included) tend curve their bodies in weird ways to compensate for a lack of body balance and control. To be more specific, I think that a lower back excessive curvature (such as I've seen you mentione in a couple of lesson, even pointing out a bad curvature in Andy Roddick's lower back) happens due to lack of body awareness and not knowing how to distribute our weight properly. Another issue I ofteb notice in amateur-intermediate level players is the way they land after the serve, which is very imbalanced as opposed to the pros smoother landing motion.
Thank you very much!
Great tips I haven’t seen elsewhere about the upper body and arm movements. Would love to see a vid/instruction on what the elbow and shoulder joints are doing between trophy position through contact. I’ve improved my serve a ton from your vids but I’ve developed a UCL injury from practicing. I’m guessing bad form somewhere. I throw left handed but play tennis right handed. So the serve motion is tough for me to learn, like learning to throw with your off hand.
That's awesome...thank you so much. I can't wait to get out and try it.
You're welcome Kenneth! Thank you for watching. Let me know how it goes.
Jeff.
@@TennisEvolution I did try it last night. I had 30 minutes before our doubles match started. I saw 6 or 7 serves bounce up so high it blew my mind. A few times I noticed I got lazy and quit using my core so it seems for me what you were saying about using your core is super important and stay engaged during the entire service motion with your core while simultaneously thinking loose arm and wrist. Wow, I was so amazed, I showed this video to my kids who are 15 and 13 year old last night when I got home. I made them watch it lol. I told them this is what we'll work on the next few weeks. Thank you very much.
@@ARKenMan Way to go! Keep up the great work.
Jeff.
Thank you, excellent teacher im appreciated
You're welcome Junryl! Thanks for watching, I appreciate your comment ;)
Very Nice! demonstrations!
thanks for your explanation, can´t wait to try it out!
You're welcome! Let me know how it goes.
Thank you very much for this video. I took it to the court and I had immediate good results. I finally understood how to pronate properly but I think the greater progress on my serve was the shoulder over shoulder position at the moment of contact. With the side bend position I think I even reach the ball higher than in my former upright position.
You're welcome Juan! I'm glad you took action and experienced great results.
Superb as usual thanks
Thanks for great tip i hope you will download a alot of videos like this thanks again go on working for us:))
You're welcome Aker! Thanks for your comment.
Jeff.
Informative and well done.
What has helped me is serve from 10-15ft from the net and work your way back 5ft at a time until your able to serve from the baseline.
Excellent Serve tips.... thanks!
You're welcome Ahana! I'm glad it was helpful!
at 8 mins i decided you needed a like. I like that knee drill!
Thank you Cosy!
Let us know how it goes ;)
Thanks for the tips. Would you consider doing a video about "swinging up and out" when serving? I somehow came across this idea but was not completely sure what it means. Thanks!
Hi Jack! Thank you for you comment. I'll consider your suggestion for upcoming videos.
Jeff.
Great video/lesson! thanks!!
You're welcome Chava!
Jeff, can you talk about how there is not just one way to pronate? Some pros, like Sampras, have the elbow up, but Federer does not yet he still pronates. Medvedev is another great example who does not keep the elbow up but is actually very straight.
Great tips, thanks.i am fighting for my serve to pronate correctly
You're welcome! Thank you for watching, keep it up ;) What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel?
Jeff.
Tyvm...
You're welcome Dnomde!
Great video as usual, Jeff. Can you briefly answer, do you consciously use your dominant hand after you launch into your serve from trophy pose, or do you just let the arm & the racquet come naturally propelled by leg drive & the upper body? If it's the latter, then I'm wondeirng, how do you change direction for the serve?
Thanks! I let the arm and the hand come naturally. You have to aim to your spot , as well as adjust the racquet hand and angle a little bit to change the direction. What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel?
Jeff.
Aha moment right there , thanks coach
You're welcome King!
The main movement of pronation is before contact, and then full pronation is when the shoulder fully externally rotates after the ball is struck.
Well said. Thanks for watching ;)
Jeff.
One more thing, I really liked your finger wriggle tip. It seems to me that tip really almost forces one to grip mostly with the thumb and I guess forefinger deep in the web of hand, which is a good thing maybe making us reexamine our Continental grip structure.
what are the deceleration exercises off court you spoke about? 🙏
Thank you
You're welcome Choosakdi! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for saying that it isn't easy. Too much online instruction ignores the fact that, in tennis as in life, meaningful change is usually difficult.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. Indeed, it does. You need to develop the right mindset and embrace change ;). Let me know how I can help. What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel?
Jeff.
Thank
You're welcome! Thanks for watching Choosakdi.
Jeff.
Great explanation, but why are my shoulder and elbow in pain when doing pronation?
You shoulder and elbow?
@@TennisEvolution Yes, mainly when doing it without a ball, just shadow strikes with the ending of tip of the racquet pointing to the ground like in the video. It is better while hitting the ball and not exaggerating this pronation move.
Thanks for the great video, Jeff!
I assume this form of pronation in the video applies to the flat serve(correct me if I am wrong). In your other kick serve video, you mention the pronation also happens. However, how is it different in terms of the body side bent and internal shoulder rotation from here? Does the wiggling finger drill also make sense when doing the kick serve?
Thank you for watching Steven. Check out this video where I discuss pronation on the kick serve in greater detail
th-cam.com/video/x6toBHiG8Z0/w-d-xo.html
If Jeff is not the best serve instructor on the net then I would like someone to point me in a better direction?
Wow! Thanks Greg ;) I appreciate your comment.
Jeff.
Great where is yu based coach I d like take some instruktion ?
What serves are those? Topspin/Kick or slice or flat?
What kinda serve will you get if you do the pronation drill in this video? Flat, slice, topspin? I presume it'll be a flat serve...
Every good serve has pronation
Thanks for watching. You'll hit a flatter serve. What other type of lessons would you like to see next in our channel?
Jeff.
👏👏👏👏
Thank you Gabriel!
Dear Jeff, I Iike your videos very much, but I believe to much emphasis is laid on pronation, which is correct in its own value, but the body does not experience because the service motion, when performed correctly, is so fast. Instead it only experiences a snap of the wrist whuch is due to other muscles working. Therefore I believe this emphasis produces a destructive mind set. Pronation on the other hand occurs automatically without giving it much thought. (Paralysis by Anlysis)
Nice video Jeff!
I have sent you an e-mail, hope you received!
Thank you Fran! I will check and get back to you as soon as I can.
Jeff.
Sir can you please help me how to improve toss at home
Sure Gauri. Check out this video, it'll help you out. th-cam.com/video/XpDRxMXeVok/w-d-xo.html
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oh man oh man.... no matter what you do with some older people they just can't do it...
You've got to try! There's always a way to get better ;)
The angle of the arm when you pronate on the serve is just like when a swimmer swims freestyle and enters the water with their arm. 🏊♂️
Great analogy Looii ;) Thanks for watching.
Jeff.
❤😂🎾♥️💃
tank you