If you want to maximize the potential of pronation, join the 30-Day serve challenge with many different pronation drills: www.feeltennis.net/serve-challenge/
Having practiced more than 100000 serves on my own, I m pretty sure this is the best vid of tennis serves for intermediate level rec players as well as complete beginners. Highly informative..!!!
Hi Tomas. I have been playing and trying to learn tennis serve for the last 8 years. But for the first time in my life, after watching this video, I REALLY understood the concept of pronation. I went to the court, tried my serve keeping this video in my mind, and I am not lying that my usually opponent could not take even one of my serves!!! I am so happy and can't thank you enough.
You share invaluable info on the serve on this video, years of tennis lessons and never even heard of this concept. Every question and answer are so well detailed and demonstrated. Thank you!
This is by far the best video explaining pronation that I have ever watched. Great explanation, and demonstration. In all the years I have played tennis and coached my daughter I never really knew for sure or understood the major differences in serves or the concept of pronating. Thank you for this excellent video explanation describing in detail the pronation process.
It's perfectly possible to serve without pronation with a Continental grip. Indeed, that was precisely how I used to do my second serve. You do exactly what you showed, just a bit harder and more side-on to the line, with some torso rotation timed with the swing, and the ball travels slowly and with extreme slice, creeping just over the net then bouncing with extreme slice. That's perfectly possible. It isn't *good*! But it is possible.
It is not possible. Laws of physics prevent that. You have not recorded yourself in super slow motion to see that your racket face angled into the ball even though you may have not felt it.
Yes!!! This is fantastic! I've been playing tennis for 20 years and NEVER ever any coach said a word about pronation . I always felt something was missing. Thanks for sharing this awesome master class!!!
This is by far the best explanation and demonstration of what is meant by 'serve' pronation that I have ever heard. Thanks! Wish I had seen this 3 years ago when it came out. Great job!
Your explanation of the serve is the best I have found on TH-cam. Before your videos I really did not understand what part pronation played in the serve. I always felt like there was an element missing in the explanation. Thinking of the serve as a two-axis motion has really made a difference for me. I still need to work on actualizing it! :) But this has certainly pointed me in the right direction. Thank you!
After following the guideline of the coach Tomaz, my serve has worked! You can not image how happy I am. I appreciate really your great support! You are the best coach at the TH-cam. Thank you for brightening my tennis world.
I just realized the importance of the pronation recently. Came back to this video and found it exactly correct when it described “may not maximize the full pronation”. Wished I paid more attention when I watched it the first time. Thank you for the excellent explanation
Much appreciated! Make sure you follow some drills as they develop the pronation well, the information of what's happening is just the start. You can join the serve challenge: www.feeltennis.net/serve-challenge/
Wow!! I recorded my serves and had this exact question on my mind - am I pronating? It is funny how Thomaz could think of us having a question like this after playing tennis for 10 years AND answer it so clearly and accurately!
idk why i was so confused if i was pronating or not but this is very clear!! thank you! I AM pronating but I need to focus on maximizing the pronation especially on slice serves.
Your video was truly excellent. I was so so confused with pronation and you just cleared it up instantly and I really appreciate the simple and clear demonstrations. Thank you so so much for your teaching.
I had watched many videos on pronation before stumbling on this and I must confess, you broke it down the way it needs to. Now I understand the whole dynamics of pronation. And I just subscribed to your channel for this reason. A very big thanks to you.
Very good video (as ever). I am also so glad that the Kiki Bertens serve was addressed in it. I was stunned when I first saw her serve and thought my perception was playing tricks with me. Amazing that you can play top 10 WTA tennis with a waiter's tray serve! (You have to wonder what kind of powerful serve she would have otherwise.)
Hey Tomas, I have learned almost everything about tennis from you only. Your lessons still reveal so many new things even on rewatching the 3rd time. Thank you so much.
Sir, can you please make a video explaining & showcasing the fundamentals of how to aim the serves in tennis, like what should be the mental as well as the physical process while aiming🙏
Sooo that´s what happened t me whenever I tried to hit a kick serve hahaha I didn´t know I had to add a bit of pronation!! Thank Thomaz always great hearing from you!!!
Now that’s the best way a video on tennis serve and pronation should start. Thanks for explaining this so well Tomaz. A quick rookie question, Q. “Doesn’t pronation then result in a lot of stress (and then maybe even injury) on the wrist? What is it that I might be doing wrong when trying to maximise pronation with a continental grip?”
Great video. It covered the questions which as amateur tennis players I had. Watched few other videos on pronation but this one answers the question those left unanswered.
The demonstrations of poor technique are delightful. Besides informing and illustration, they add a touch of endearing comic absurdity. They make me chuckle. Also, a good reminder of what I probably look like half the time in my tennis technique. Tomaz, you're great!
Great video on pronation and use of the ball; as a visual learner, your videos are some of the best on youtube. Ive been playing tennis for over 30 yrs and rated 4.5-5.0.
One of the best videos on serve and pronation. To be honest, I think I still don’t pronate most of the times, but the hinge and improved toss has improved my serve a lot. I have noticed that I seem to pronate only when I toss it higher than usual.
This is an amazing video. I believed that pronation must just occur naturally, without any conscious movement. But you say that we must actively DO the pronation, pushing with our finger / hand, thus adding power / spin / byte to the ball, and not just let the pronation happening by the natural momentum of the racket head? That's great :)
Love this video... I have heard of the word "pronation" and was wondering if I am doing it correctly. So glad to hear that I am pronating, just not optimize my probation.
I achieved both understanding and muscle memory of pronation in tennis just a couple of weeks ago. I’ve known about the definition for more than a decade, but only got the feeling this month. And it feels wonderful. I would describe the result of pronation as force that drives the ball forward into the service box. In nerdy terms, it’s the component of the hitting force perpendicular to the racket face and pointing towards the service box. As all serves needs to go to the service box, then any serve (using Continental grip as Tomaz said) must have this result that was caused by pronation. I further consider pronation to result in a a position of strength and stability for the arm as the racket hits the ball. In simpler terms, pronation gives you the “slapping” action on the ball. The spin and kick comes from the grazing action. The proportion between the slapping and grazing actions determines the type of serve (flat, kick, slice)
Impressive how he can vary between the different stroke techniques. Even showing the wrong/ineffective ones. I am an advanced player playing 30 years, but especially changing the serve takes so much time. My pronation is good, but I tend to not swing the racket, kind of interrupt the motion and lose a lot of speed. So the last few weeks I mostly focused only on the swing to get some power back. I just have made some progress. Now I start to try more adjustments to improve precision. If this works, I'll start focusing on spin.
I now can reconcile what for a long time seemed like opposite racquet movements: the left to right brush of the racquet to achieve spin (kick/slice) and having the ball-hitting racquet face end up facing to my right (as a right hander)! Upto this point, I’ve been ending up with the ball-hitting racquet facing down with my my wrist on top. I’m looking forward to developing new muscle memory and hitting the serve with more power with proper serve pronation. I appreciate the careful explanation. Quite the find for me.
Fantastic instructions - Thomaz made me understand with his breakdowns - after many years of improvising - the fundamentals of the forehand, backhand, service, timing and the split step. Thank you very much !
hi tomaz thank u for these helpful videos. in this video you said doctors can explain. im a doctor and started to learn tennis 6 months ago.. we call movement in joints. so pronation is in wrist. and pronation in shoulder.. pronation in wrist makes pronation and pronation in sholder makes it maximize.
The big problem of my serve was I did not pronate. After I one day I did the pronation I feel my serve so much better. After I experience the pronation, then I watch this video, it explains real clear. I hope I watch this video earlier.
@Feel Tennis Instruction I'm a beginner and i watched this video in preparation to my first serve lesson. As a first approach i've been taught that after hitting the ball, I should conclude the pronation movement by stopping the twist of the wrist at 90° instead of a sort of 180° twist. Is it correct? thanks in advance, you're a great teacher!
If you want to maximize the potential of pronation, join the 30-Day serve challenge with many different pronation drills: www.feeltennis.net/serve-challenge/
Having practiced more than 100000 serves on my own, I m pretty sure this is the best vid of tennis serves for intermediate level rec players as well as complete beginners. Highly informative..!!!
The best tennis coach on TH-cam!👍
This and some others are the best coaching/explanation I've heard
Tomaz, you explain this subject better than any other coach I have seen. Thanks much as you have helped improve my serving a great deal.
Probably the best video on serve and effets i have ever seen. Thank you for sharing Sir
Hi Tomas. I have been playing and trying to learn tennis serve for the last 8 years. But for the first time in my life, after watching this video, I REALLY understood the concept of pronation. I went to the court, tried my serve keeping this video in my mind, and I am not lying that my usually opponent could not take even one of my serves!!! I am so happy and can't thank you enough.
That is so Awesome!!! I hope it fixes my serve too!
You share invaluable info on the serve on this video, years of tennis lessons and never even heard of this concept. Every question and answer are so well detailed and demonstrated. Thank you!
Thank you for the time you took to write this feedback, much appreciated!
This is by far the best video explaining pronation that I have ever watched. Great explanation, and demonstration. In all the years I have played tennis and coached my daughter I never really knew for sure or understood the major differences in serves or the concept of pronating. Thank you for this excellent video explanation describing in detail the pronation process.
Glad it was helpful, thanks for the feedback!
It's perfectly possible to serve without pronation with a Continental grip. Indeed, that was precisely how I used to do my second serve. You do exactly what you showed, just a bit harder and more side-on to the line, with some torso rotation timed with the swing, and the ball travels slowly and with extreme slice, creeping just over the net then bouncing with extreme slice. That's perfectly possible. It isn't *good*! But it is possible.
It is not possible. Laws of physics prevent that. You have not recorded yourself in super slow motion to see that your racket face angled into the ball even though you may have not felt it.
@feeltennis Well, I'm sure you know much better than I do and your videos are just fab, & so helpful. So I'm not going to try to argue! 😃
Yes!!! This is fantastic! I've been playing tennis for 20 years and NEVER ever any coach said a word about pronation . I always felt something was missing. Thanks for sharing this awesome master class!!!
99% of the coaches don’t know about that and some say it’s a gimmick…
Sorry to say, but you both have had horrible coaches if they never mentioned it after the 1st few sessions.
@@ER_aka_RAMwell, not everybody has access to coaches like Tomas. At least in my country. You must consider yourself lucky.
FINALLY the best explanation about pronation on the whole internet. THANK YOU, Tomas!!!
This is by far the best explanation and demonstration of what is meant by 'serve' pronation that I have ever heard. Thanks!
Wish I had seen this 3 years ago when it came out. Great job!
Your explanation of the serve is the best I have found on TH-cam. Before your videos I really did not understand what part pronation played in the serve. I always felt like there was an element missing in the explanation. Thinking of the serve as a two-axis motion has really made a difference for me. I still need to work on actualizing it! :) But this has certainly pointed me in the right direction. Thank you!
When you think Tomaz peaked his pedagogical level, PUM! this lesson appears. SO EASY to understand, thanks!
This is one of the best explanations of using pronation while serving. Good job again!
I love the way you show it for the viewer to observe from the back. I am able to see clearly the swing path of the hand and the wrist.
First video to truly explain pronation properly and the connection to gaining power in ones serve.
After following the guideline of the coach Tomaz, my serve has worked!
You can not image how happy I am. I appreciate really your great support!
You are the best coach at the TH-cam. Thank you for brightening my tennis world.
I just realized the importance of the pronation recently. Came back to this video and found it exactly correct when it described “may not maximize the full pronation”. Wished I paid more attention when I watched it the first time.
Thank you for the excellent explanation
Much appreciated! Make sure you follow some drills as they develop the pronation well, the information of what's happening is just the start. You can join the serve challenge: www.feeltennis.net/serve-challenge/
Wow!! I recorded my serves and had this exact question on my mind - am I pronating? It is funny how Thomaz could think of us having a question like this after playing tennis for 10 years AND answer it so clearly and accurately!
Wow, your videos are so easy to understand! Your evaluations and explanations are so clear. Thank you.
after watching tomaz videos and learnt how to pronate, my serve is improved 100%! thank you tomaz, best teaching videos on the net!!!
Very much appreciated!
Love this guy!! Such a great teacher!!!
Great idea about the serve looking like a waiter's serve from behind but actually ending with pronation solely due to the continental grip.
idk why i was so confused if i was pronating or not but this is very clear!! thank you! I AM pronating but I need to focus on maximizing the pronation especially on slice serves.
I'm so glad I found your videos, which are so clear and helpful compared to many others out there. Thanks!
Glad you like them!
Your video was truly excellent. I was so so confused with pronation and you just cleared it up instantly and I really appreciate the simple and clear demonstrations. Thank you so so much for your teaching.
Glad it was helpful!
One of the best lesson I have found in you tube. Thanks a lot
I’ve been trying to pronate completely. It finally happened during my serves today. Thanks much.
Beautiful teaching on topspin serve.
Thx Coach😊
I had watched many videos on pronation before stumbling on this and I must confess, you broke it down the way it needs to. Now I understand the whole dynamics of pronation. And I just subscribed to your channel for this reason. A very big thanks to you.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent teaching. Very clear. It answers precisely the questions I had having seen another of Thomas' videos on pronation last week.
Hi Tomaz, thanks for the videos, I think you're one of the best teachers on YT!!!
Best video and lesson on pronation. Thank you coach Thomas, you are the best coach who explains very well all the subtleties
Well done Tomaz, excellent explanation as usual, cheers
Very good video (as ever). I am also so glad that the Kiki Bertens serve was addressed in it. I was stunned when I first saw her serve and thought my perception was playing tricks with me. Amazing that you can play top 10 WTA tennis with a waiter's tray serve! (You have to wonder what kind of powerful serve she would have otherwise.)
Hey Tomas, I have learned almost everything about tennis from you only. Your lessons still reveal so many new things even on rewatching the 3rd time. Thank you so much.
You're very welcome and thanks for the kind feedback!
One of the best instruction and explanation videos!
Sir, can you please make a video explaining & showcasing the fundamentals of how to aim the serves in tennis, like what should be the mental as well as the physical process while aiming🙏
as usually - great explanation for tennis nation :-) Tomaz is soooo great instructor....
Some great tips, I never understood why my coach was always pushing me towards the continental grip. Now I understand
What a great teacher.
One of the best coaches on the web for sure.
Excellent !!! others coaching have explanation but just with you I can really understand !!
This answers all my questions i had but didn't ask. Thank you.
He answers even questions we don't know we have
Thank you for sharing your wisdom, Tomaz!
Excellent. There is a lot of good info online and you're the best.
Sooo that´s what happened t me whenever I tried to hit a kick serve hahaha I didn´t know I had to add a bit of pronation!! Thank Thomaz always great hearing from you!!!
Thanks for the detailed and systematic explanation of pronation service, I will adapt the same while in practice
Awesome, right on the money. Best video that I have seen so far.
Excellent teaching! Very clear and detailed.
Thank you for taking time to go through the details.
Super excellent explanation about pronation! You are the best coach!!
Best explanation of pronation serve! Great teaching!
Now that’s the best way a video on tennis serve and pronation should start. Thanks for explaining this so well Tomaz.
A quick rookie question,
Q. “Doesn’t pronation then result in a lot of stress (and then maybe even injury) on the wrist? What is it that I might be doing wrong when trying to maximise pronation with a continental grip?”
Great video. It covered the questions which as amateur tennis players I had. Watched few other videos on pronation but this one answers the question those left unanswered.
Thanks for your amazing guidance. This is what I wanted to know.
This is the like the answers to all my serve questions. Superb video. Thanks.
This is a fantastic informative video describing pronation of a Tennis Serve.
Great job Tomaz,very clear presentation and very useful for us recreational players. Thanks
The demonstrations of poor technique are delightful. Besides informing and illustration, they add a touch of endearing comic absurdity. They make me chuckle. Also, a good reminder of what I probably look like half the time in my tennis technique. Tomaz, you're great!
Wonderful, thanks for the feedback!
This breakdown of 'pronation' is very helpful. Thank you
Great video on pronation and use of the ball; as a visual learner, your videos are some of the best on youtube. Ive been playing tennis for over 30 yrs and rated 4.5-5.0.
Very much appreciated!
Best summarize of serve. Great. Thanks a lot.
Excellent explanation Tomaz. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
One of the best videos on serve and pronation. To be honest, I think I still don’t pronate most of the times, but the hinge and improved toss has improved my serve a lot. I have noticed that I seem to pronate only when I toss it higher than usual.
I don’t think you can fully pronate if the ball is tossed or hit too low.
Great teaching video on pronation during a serve. Made me serve better!
This is an amazing video. I believed that pronation must just occur naturally, without any conscious movement. But you say that we must actively DO the pronation, pushing with our finger / hand, thus adding power / spin / byte to the ball, and not just let the pronation happening by the natural momentum of the racket head? That's great :)
Excellent video. You made it so easy to understand.
Love this video... I have heard of the word "pronation" and was wondering if I am doing it correctly. So glad to hear that I am pronating, just not optimize my probation.
what a great video, glad i found this treasure!
I achieved both understanding and muscle memory of pronation in tennis just a couple of weeks ago. I’ve known about the definition for more than a decade, but only got the feeling this month. And it feels wonderful.
I would describe the result of pronation as force that drives the ball forward into the service box. In nerdy terms, it’s the component of the hitting force perpendicular to the racket face and pointing towards the service box. As all serves needs to go to the service box, then any serve (using Continental grip as Tomaz said) must have this result that was caused by pronation.
I further consider pronation to result in a a position of strength and stability for the arm as the racket hits the ball.
In simpler terms, pronation gives you the “slapping” action on the ball. The spin and kick comes from the grazing action. The proportion between the slapping and grazing actions determines the type of serve (flat, kick, slice)
Thanks for sharing your feedback!
King of the pronate explanation.
Nice lesson. You are an excellent coach! I've learned a lot about the pronation and how to serve.
Impressive how he can vary between the different stroke techniques. Even showing the wrong/ineffective ones.
I am an advanced player playing 30 years, but especially changing the serve takes so much time. My pronation is good, but I tend to not swing the racket, kind of interrupt the motion and lose a lot of speed. So the last few weeks I mostly focused only on the swing to get some power back. I just have made some progress. Now I start to try more adjustments to improve precision. If this works, I'll start focusing on spin.
I feel like I FINALLY get this......great explanation of the concepts. Now.....time to go practice with a video camera.
Great video. You are really amazing coach for teaching the serve pronation 👍👍👍
Best coaching ever~ thank you sir.
Very clever explanation, as usual. Thanks.
I now can reconcile what for a long time seemed like opposite racquet movements: the left to right brush of the racquet to achieve spin (kick/slice) and having the ball-hitting racquet face end up facing to my right (as a right hander)! Upto this point, I’ve been ending up with the ball-hitting racquet facing down with my my wrist on top. I’m looking forward to developing new muscle memory and hitting the serve with more power with proper serve pronation.
I appreciate the careful explanation. Quite the find for me.
Wow that's an amazing explanation. Never thought this way. Thanks so much!
Fantastic instructions - Thomaz made me understand with his breakdowns - after many years of improvising - the fundamentals of the forehand, backhand, service, timing and the split step. Thank you very much !
This video immediately improved my serve!
Great video, very useful for me. Tks Thomas!
Excellent instructions I appreciate this very much
Great explanation as always!
hi tomaz thank u for these helpful videos. in this video you said doctors can explain. im a doctor and started to learn tennis 6 months ago.. we call movement in joints. so pronation is in wrist. and pronation in shoulder.. pronation in wrist makes pronation and pronation in sholder makes it maximize.
Excellent explanations, Coach!
Great tutorial on pronation. Kudos!
Thank you! Very helpful, even at my advanced age. I think I can add some power to my serve.
very easy lesson. i learned alot from your video. thank you
Insane how good this video is at explaining the serve. Ridiculous.
The big problem of my serve was I did not pronate. After I one day I did the pronation I feel my serve so much better. After I experience the pronation, then I watch this video, it explains real clear. I hope I watch this video earlier.
Congratulations, you are a good coach!
Thomas is the best instructor on the web. Explains technique clearly.
Great instructions. Many thanks.
@Feel Tennis Instruction I'm a beginner and i watched this video in preparation to my first serve lesson. As a first approach i've been taught that after hitting the ball, I should conclude the pronation movement by stopping the twist of the wrist at 90° instead of a sort of 180° twist. Is it correct? thanks in advance, you're a great teacher!
Yup Superb 👌 now to find the pronation drills 👍
As usual fantastic explanation.