I am actually very impressed with this interview. The interviewer was very knowledgeable about the common misconceptions of the US healthcare system (and its perceived strengths), and the author was able to address them directly, both with evidence and his personal experiences. Very well done.
In Spain, my daughter born with problems. 1 month of hospitalised neonatal care, 8 times in surgeries, a lot of analisys and medical test like magnetic resonance... all for free, 0 euros. Now she is perfect and healthy at her 13
Don't Bet on It totally agree, remember its for the child, the child is innocent, where just born and is not to blame for maybe being born into a family with low resources, its fair to her to give her the help she needs to thrive, and be healthy and not have her family go bankrupt and they ending up in the streets. will also save the health care system, tremendously amounts of money, if its fixed early, instead of dragged out over time.
Nothing is free. It is the quality of the doctors. You are totally insane concerning the best healthcare! I was in the UK, London, with pneumonia and a temperature of 105. They said I wasn't sick and couldn't possibly go to the hospital!
I'm in Canada, and needed major arthroscopic surgery. It was four months from the time I called to get a referral from my family doctor, until I had surgery. My surgeon is literally one of the best in the world. I paid nothing. It was a bit of a wait, but I'm very happy with the service I received.
So many Americans have made it perfectly clear that they don't want to pay for anyone else's medical bill. Also Canadian, French and British doctors are "cutting edge" Absolutely no one pays in Europe, they don't have a cash desk, it seems like paying a fireman to attend a house fire, it's incomprehensible. There is no "waiting" not where I live anyway.
Martin White the ironic thing is Americans _are_ paying for other people’s healthcare. That’s exactly how insurance works. The insurance company collects enough in premiums so that they still make a profit after the payouts they fulfill. If you only paid for your own healthcare, then the insurer would go out of business.
There was one thing said about Canada which is questionable. He said in Canada you will wait a long time for treatment which is not necessarily true. In Canada we triage our patients. If you are capable of waiting, then you can wait. But, if your condition is overwhelming or life threatening then you are in immediately. In any event, universal healthcare is far less expensive than a for profit system. The reason is simply most people go to a physician ate the outset of a medical condition when it is still reasonable to treat it. When you have to pay or don't have coverage then you hesitate and your condition can be far far worse when you finally do go to the doctor and then it costs far more to treat it. IE: Skin cancer. Most skin cancers can be treated with relative ease when caught early enough but if you ignore them until they are advanced they can and will kill you after bankrupting you trying to get it under control. When speaking about costs consider this: In the U.S. pends about 23.5% of each dollar on administration and profit. In Canada it's about 4.5% or 19% less. Essentially $.20 out of every $1.00 just disappears into the hands of the corporations and their share holders...........
I was born and raised in France. And Currently living in Canada. Both countries offer a (very)good and universal healthcare. Only difference remains indeed on the waiting list that can be crazy in Canada. (Unless it's a life threatening emergency of course). And mayble the out of pocket bill on dental services are a bit more expensive than France. I remember that in France, I never paid more than 30euros for a complet dental care lol The same treatment can still cost you MUCH more here.
6:38 the last thing you need when you need to go to hospital is the stress of a massive bill ... far betters to say have the 1 million people in your city chip in a quarter (25c) (25c time 1mill = 250,000) now and then when one of then needs surgery later you chip in a quarter(25c) towards there care its really not that hard to figure out ... its like a loan you take out from every one who pays tax that you repay by getting better faster getting back to work (if possible) and paying your taxes so that when one of them needs it the system can help them ...
Great video. I'm from Australia which has a very good universal health care system called Medicare. The tax for everyone is 1.5% plus a $650 additional cost if you are a high income earner. There are many options for private health care (often subsidised by Govt) as well as controls about pre-existing conditions, etc. From my understanding the reluctance for the USA to adopt an effective universal health care system is not a moral question, it is an ideological question. The power of the corporations which currently control the health care system, demand the free market, and US politicians are cowards when it comes to confronting corporate power. Respect to Obama who actually achieved a universal health care system (amazing!) , only for the Trump administration to almost destroy it, again on idealogical grounds. The evidence of ACA clearly demonstrated it's benefits. Also the people whom benefited most from ACA were the very same people who voted for Trump who campaigned on dismantling ACA. Again health care was determined by ideology, not economics, not morals and not even by self-interest! Ideology, zealotry and cognitive dissonance!
Sorry I’ll stick to the NHS, free at the point of use. I have paid into the National Insurance all my working life, based on my earnings and they look after me 100% in my retirement.
@@D13-r9w the NHS is ranked number one in the developed world by the Commonwealth fund (an American organisation) the US is No.11 out of 11. The WHO ranks the UK at 18, the US at 37. It also costs around half as much and has slightly better results than the US, in some areas such as infant and maternal mortality or preventive medicine the US is way worse than any other developed nation.
No matter what is proposed, Congress will include something better for themselves. No dialysis after age 80? Unless you are or were a member of Congress. They will continue to get the same treatment as a 30 year old.
The average cost in other developed countries around $3000, per capita we spend almost$10,000 now. We have to take the complete power out of the insurance companies, the government has to regulate to protect the people, we pay so much more in administration bc of insurance. Or negotiate like other countries with the pharmacies
LOL you are right, except In America, The Land Of The Free, Rights seem to be in short supply these days. Nowadays we are more like total taxation without any representation. Where did our constitution disappear to?
@@theresaduncan1081 Do you know how much, as a percentage, goes to the US military? Go on have a laugh because those that complain about tax also advocate more military spending.
Actually the Australian model if prob better than France....it pays their doctors better than even the USA and the USA is NOT the richest country at ll..Reference: Credit Suisee...yearly country analysis also the USA is NOT a democratic country......wow this guy is so un imformed
Barry Nichols Yep, we pay a 3% Medicare levy with our taxes, you know why? Because we care about our health and that of our fellow citizens, Costs us less than the US with better results and insurance companies don't pocket the excess. Makes sense to the rest of the world.
Thank you for discussing this so deeply, and with direct experience of how other countries handle healthcare. I'm a Brit, now retired and living in Canada, and with experience of working in America on quite a few occasions, for up to 9 months at a time. I have never had to worry about health care; it has always been there for me, at no charge other than insurance payments - and during the periods I have been out of work those have been zero, with no risk of losing my health care. I look at the situation only an hour away to the south of me, and I am appalled: America is a great place to be if you have a job and you have good health; but lose either one of those two, and you're on the bread line or dead. Yet those who can afford health care pay twice as much as I do, and risk losing it at any moment. Pre-existing conditions? Until I first needed healthcare in America, I'd never even heard the words. Going bankrupt because I can't pay my healthcare bill? It never crossed my mind. Getting permission for medical treatment from my insurance company? Why? If my doctor says I need it, I get it. In Britain we created the NHS to be able to support injured and disabled servicemen and women after WW2, because we recognised that insurance schemes weren't going to cover them and they couldn't be expected to pay for it themselves. We were grateful for their service, and made the "moral" decision to thank them in practical ways. To make Britain a land fit for heroes, as the saying went. And found, to our surprise, that we could cover everyone for a moderate cost. The NHS is now the most beloved institution, across the board, whatever your politics, whatever your financial situation. And when it came to persuading people to vote for Brexit, what was the most entrancing vision they could dangle in front of us? To give the NHS all the money that we would save, that we would no longer contribute to European costs: £350million/week. That sum was grossly over-estimated, and the NHS has never received a penny of it. But the suggestion worked, because everyone in Britain loves the NHS. And do you know why America hates the idea of having its own NHS? They call it socialism. To an American, that word alone stops any discussion dead.
This is an excellent reply. Hats off to you for so succinctly putting my thoughts into words. It is astounding that Americans blindly ignore facts and refuse to believe that in some things there is a better way than their way. Thank God that I was born in Britain with the NHS and now live in Australia with their national health system called Medicare. It never crosses my mind that I might be bankrupted if I fall ill. Indeed, I am re-assured that if I have an accident or do succumb to a terrible illness I will be taken care of with high quality treatment at no cost other than the taxes that I have already paid.
It's really difficult to understand for an European citizen that this situation exists in a country where the people show off their religiosity, human rights etc... And however let the poor people die, no matter the age, allows the death penalty and spends *"EACH"* year more than 500 billion dollars in weapons. Also, USA spends more than any other civilized country (17% of GDP) in its health care systems and however million people don't have any kind of access to health care systems. Something smells really bad in that country. The first of the first in all countries should be the citizens and more still in the "richest" country of the world. Shame on them!
You hit the nail on the head in your first sentence - "people show off their religiosity, human rights, etc." It's all for show. The people with the power to make changes are hypocrites.
This was a great interview. The frontline piece "sick around the world" is also a good one to watch. Our healthcare is not as good as many countries and costs 17% of gdp. For me the worst thing about it is that it doesn't pay for "alternative" treatments. Doctors and pills don't really cure anything.....
Wooh. You can have private. insurance and there is even many companies too that give you a health insurance.Our hospitals have agreements with private hospitals too.Patient decides where they want to go.No waiting.No one dies.No greedy docs here.I live in Scandinavia.
I feel other countries regulate the pharmaceutical companies, keeping the cost or medicine down ...other factors play into it as well... regrettably pharmaceutical companies in the states pretty much run the healthcare system
My father once told me. You can have all the private health insurance you want. Skip all the waiting lists you want. But in an emergency. The ambulance will take you to an NHS hospital. They are gonna be the ones trying to save your life.
Americans prefer to pay higher insurance rates, and higher income tax, rather than simply pay half (literally half) the amount of healthcare costs via income taxes directly, and get better coverage. Does it make sense? Only when you have vested interests to prevent proper changes, and ensure people stay misinformed.
I am an American and you are right. If a program makes common sense. economical sense, when you put a pencil to it, then our dumb assed government will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.
I’m Australian we have excellent universal healthcare for all but if you want to be first in line for a knee replacement or a private room when you give birth there is a private insurance. option. This option also helps take some of the strain off the public system and it is subsidised by the government to keep it affordable.
The mistake is make business with the population's health, the healthcare must to be focused as a right of the citizens, ruled by the state governement and payed by taxes. From the point of view of a spanish citizen it has no sense to have 10 aircraft carriers sailing around the world if your people - rich and not so rich - can't dispose of good healthcare services at the same time.
I have 2 girlfriends..one in Canada, one in the USA, both seem to be waiting the same time for simular problems. And for normal check ups the Canadian girlfriend gets in faster, plus she has a nurse that stops to check up on her, how well her meds are doing etc.every month.
Nothing will change because politics in the U.S operates on the 'system' of lobbies.Just like the NRA(for guns)the lobby that serves the medical establishment,is very strong
By the way, countries with a universal health care system spend no more than 11.5% of GDP on medicine. Taiwan 7.5. All are covered And here with the USA 19%, at the same time 45.000.000 without insurance. In reality, the US would save a minimum of 1.5 trillion a year. America would not borrow $1.000.000.000.000 annually.
thats a great interview, especially interesting to see how other countries handle it and have actually socialized healthcare. i didnt know that, from a german perspective.
@Almumin im content with the concept. I get the Care i need from my familiy doctor, dont have to wait, dont have to pay too much for the medicine. I am too healthy to judge the quality of healthcare in hospitals. Last Time i was taken Care pretty Well. The Hospital wasnt fancy, food was OK, but thats Not Important to me. They could Pump a little more into the system but i m fine with what i get
We've got to be really careful in the countries with universal health care I'm Australia some blood test were made fee paying or only part fee paying , the problem is that instead if asking if the patient will pay most doctors don't order the tests that four years ago were free. I'd rather be asked plus it's so much harder to get certain drugs in the rest of the works and in the US it's much less regulated and much easier
If you were living in Great Britain, you would pay about 180 Dollar's a month for National Insurance, part of this goes to the NHS, and part of it goes towards paying you a pension when you reach retirement age, when you need to go to the doctors, all you have to pay is a prescription charge if your doctor gives you a prescription, at the minute it would be about 15 Dollars, i get two Asthma inhalers for that price, all other medical procedures cost you NOTHING extra. A few years ago I needed surgery to repair three hernias, i was in hospital three days, no charge, i needed cataract surgery,no charge, when our daughter was born, no charge, when my brother needed heart bypass surgery, he had a quadruple bypass, no charge, i have been to the US a few times and I love it, but give me the NHS any day.
TH-cam recommended this to me. It is now the end of 2017. This healthcare system debate is still very alive. Unfortunately, America has backslid on the paltry improvements that Obama introduced with his ACA. The Republicans are busy dismantling Obamacare, and Speaker of the House Ryan says Medicaid and Medicare are next on the chopping block (Social Security is too tough to take on right now, he told his radio talk show interviewer). The morality of this smashing of the social safety for the poor, the uninsured and now our senior citizens is just unfathomable. The Republicans stylize themselves as evangelical, religious, God-fearing people. They aren't very Christian.
Guess what? Most old people when they are in that last year that famously costs 50% of your lifelong healthcare cost actually prefer to go. This prolonging life at all cost becomes a burden for the patient.
8 years ago this video was put on TH-cam and they hope people will deal with America's healthcare, jump to today and we have a party in power that wants to strip all of it away.
The US ‘health system is the most expensive with the worst outcomes in the world. What he claims about Canada is absolutely false. For some procedures, non-life threatening, like knee transplant, it might require some wait time, maybe a month or less, but you can get the procedure.
3:29 my observation as an outside from new Zealand is ... you live in a culture where money mess successes and those that have it diverse it and those who don't , don't personally i find the idea that some one would call the usa or any other contender "moral" laughable... why don't you have universal health care ? i don't know ... but what i do know is this the only reason something is not done is because either it cant be done or a choice has been made not to do it that is you have the resources but for what ever reason you have decided that the would be better spent some other way ... and to me the fact that you would put anything over a human life is vile ... you have people dyeing on you're streets in unending and unnecessary suffering but you chose to ignore it or explain it away as their or someone else's fault ...
8:19 i think it has more to do with you're paranoia about " them reds under the bed gonna getcha by) and this almost cult like belief in the "free market "
Generally true, but I don't believe that it would be true of Bernie Sanders. He gets it and he's been fighting for the people for decades. But he's just one man. In the U.S. we have the House and the Senate that must cooperate. Otherwise Obama probably would have made universal healthcare an executive order. He tried to get the public option in but Congress (House and Senate) voted it down - his own Party, no less.
***** You obviously have very different definition of the term "faith". I have always taken it as "Believing in something for which there can be no evidence" So " What exactly IS that pill made of" fails as you can actually go back through the records and find out. So "What about that stranger coming at you with a knife? Can you trust him" fails as you can look up his training record, get a photo id from the hospital records. Do an online search. Faith is what theists have about a god. they believe in something for which there is zero evidence.
***** www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faith b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) "You BELIEVE that the pill is what you're TOLD it is" No you can go and get it analysed. What ever you come up with in heath care then there is a way to analyse it and come up with an answer, no faith needed. Now you can trust that the pill is what you have been told it is. BTW try and have a conversation on line without resorting to comments like "Fucking stupid" It just make you look bad...
***** 1 You make assertions that can be proven to false and refuse to acknowledge it. 2 You cannot get through a few sentences without cussing. Enough said.....
***** Next time try to read what has been said. "You obviously have very different definition of the term "faith"." www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faithb (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) If you had bothered to follow the link you would see that it was the second of 2 definitions And I do not get upset by plebs like you. I just enjoy smearing their noses in there own shit. Its one of my systems to wind people like you up.
"Health insurance premiums, high deductibles, co-pays, medical bankruptcy are a human right"… said no one ever. (:-( #MedicareForAll: free at point of care, will save you money but… "nah, socialism!" (:-( #M4A #UHC #UniversalHealthCoverage
We all pay in to the system and most have some claim during thier life time. its a bit like paying insurance you can whinge and whine about paying but you hope you never have a claim
The only thing the bad about America is it’s full of Americans. You guys are absolutely crazy. Here in the Uk we have Social health system owned by the government. From birth it’s free to use, until the day you start work as an adult, then you pay a percentage of you wage regardless what treatment you need. if you don’t earn due to ill health it’s doesn’t cost and the treatments the same. Our child care health system is second to none. It’s doesn’t cost to have children, I have three a couldn’t have wish for better service for my wife on any of the births.We also 28 days a year paid holiday maternity for men and women 6 months. Americans are so ill informed
The funny thing is that you can do that in the uk as well if you want, some people use it to jump the queue but in the main most people don’t. The uk private healthcare is there mainly to provide healthcare for the wealthy and American companies’ expat employees.
It's all about hate. If black people weren't going to benefit from universal healthcare, it would have been implemented. in the 1950s or 1960s. Reagan expressed that hate best when he talked about "Young Bucks" and "Welfare Queens".
This guy has OBVIOUSLY never been to Australia....why I say this is that the Doctors earn MORE than in the USA and actually get TIME off.......the cost to the individual is NOTHING if they opt for this and there is a selection to be in private insurance or not.....technolgy investment in Australia is actually MORE than in the USA...this guy has not properly researched this
Americans 🙄. Single pay systems just make sense. It is a moral question. Some people are making a lot of money at the expense of ordinary Americans. Your representatives have been bought.
Lucía Gil he wasn’t. He was saying if you ask the average American, they would say “socialised medicine is bad”. It’s the stigma in the US of the word “socialism”.
This might be harsh but it's the truth that the people in the interview and many americans don't want to say; money is what units americans. This country isn't moral as much as they say, otherwise the unequal distribution of wealth wouldn't be as extreme as this. Don't get me wrong, capitalism is the only effective economic model. However it needs some adjustment to fit a humane society. Americans and american politicians clearly don't give a shit :)
It is the quality of the doctors. You are totally insane concerning the best healthcare! I was in the UK, London, with pneumonia and a temperature of 105. They said I wasn't sick and couldn't possibly go to the hospital!
By the way, countries with a universal health care system spend no more than 11.5% of GDP on medicine. Taiwan 7.5. All are covered And here with the USA 19%, at the same time 45.000.000 without insurance. In reality, the US would save a minimum of 1.5 trillion a year. America would not borrow $1.000.000.000.000 annually.
I am actually very impressed with this interview. The interviewer was very knowledgeable about the common misconceptions of the US healthcare system (and its perceived strengths), and the author was able to address them directly, both with evidence and his personal experiences. Very well done.
In Spain, my daughter born with problems. 1 month of hospitalised neonatal care, 8 times in surgeries, a lot of analisys and medical test like magnetic resonance... all for free, 0 euros. Now she is perfect and healthy at her 13
Mikel Arana Etxarri Great to hear. That is how things should be I do not understand how certain countries can't understand this.
Don't Bet on It totally agree, remember its for the child, the child is innocent, where just born and is not to blame for maybe being born into a family with low resources, its fair to her to give her the help she needs to thrive, and be healthy and not have her family go bankrupt and they ending up in the streets. will also save the health care system, tremendously amounts of money, if its fixed early, instead of dragged out over time.
Nothing is free. It is the quality of the doctors. You are totally insane concerning the best healthcare! I was in the UK, London, with pneumonia and a temperature of 105. They said I wasn't sick and couldn't possibly go to the hospital!
I'm in Canada, and needed major arthroscopic surgery. It was four months from the time I called to get a referral from my family doctor, until I had surgery. My surgeon is literally one of the best in the world. I paid nothing. It was a bit of a wait, but I'm very happy with the service I received.
So many Americans have made it perfectly clear that they don't want to pay for anyone else's medical bill. Also Canadian, French and British doctors are "cutting edge" Absolutely no one pays in Europe, they don't have a cash desk, it seems like paying a fireman to attend a house fire, it's incomprehensible. There is no "waiting" not where I live anyway.
Martin White the ironic thing is Americans _are_ paying for other people’s healthcare. That’s exactly how insurance works. The insurance company collects enough in premiums so that they still make a profit after the payouts they fulfill. If you only paid for your own healthcare, then the insurer would go out of business.
There was one thing said about Canada which is questionable. He said in Canada you will wait a long time for treatment which is not necessarily true. In Canada we triage our patients. If you are capable of waiting, then you can wait. But, if your condition is overwhelming or life threatening then you are in immediately. In any event, universal healthcare is far less expensive than a for profit system. The reason is simply most people go to a physician ate the outset of a medical condition when it is still reasonable to treat it. When you have to pay or don't have coverage then you hesitate and your condition can be far far worse when you finally do go to the doctor and then it costs far more to treat it. IE: Skin cancer. Most skin cancers can be treated with relative ease when caught early enough but if you ignore them until they are advanced they can and will kill you after bankrupting you trying to get it under control. When speaking about costs consider this: In the U.S. pends about 23.5% of each dollar on administration and profit. In Canada it's about 4.5% or 19% less. Essentially $.20 out of every $1.00 just disappears into the hands of the corporations and their share holders...........
I was born and raised in France. And Currently living in Canada.
Both countries offer a (very)good and universal healthcare. Only difference remains indeed on the waiting list that can be crazy in Canada. (Unless it's a life threatening emergency of course). And mayble the out of pocket bill on dental services are a bit more expensive than France.
I remember that in France, I never paid more than 30euros for a complet dental care lol
The same treatment can still cost you MUCH more here.
6:38 the last thing you need when you need to go to hospital is the stress of a massive bill ... far betters to say have the 1 million people in your city chip in a quarter (25c) (25c time 1mill = 250,000) now and then when one of then needs surgery later you chip in a quarter(25c) towards there care its really not that hard to figure out ... its like a loan you take out from every one who pays tax that you repay by getting better faster getting back to work (if possible) and paying your taxes so that when one of them needs it the system can help them ...
Great video. I'm from Australia which has a very good universal health care system called Medicare. The tax for everyone is 1.5% plus a $650 additional cost if you are a high income earner. There are many options for private health care (often subsidised by Govt) as well as controls about pre-existing conditions, etc. From my understanding the reluctance for the USA to adopt an effective universal health care system is not a moral question, it is an ideological question. The power of the corporations which currently control the health care system, demand the free market, and US politicians are cowards when it comes to confronting corporate power. Respect to Obama who actually achieved a universal health care system (amazing!) , only for the Trump administration to almost destroy it, again on idealogical grounds. The evidence of ACA clearly demonstrated it's benefits. Also the people whom benefited most from ACA were the very same people who voted for Trump who campaigned on dismantling ACA. Again health care was determined by ideology, not economics, not morals and not even by self-interest! Ideology, zealotry and cognitive dissonance!
Sorry I’ll stick to the NHS, free at the point of use. I have paid into the National Insurance all my working life, based on my earnings and they look after me 100% in my retirement.
The NHS, free but a bit rubbish
@@D13-r9w Never had a problem, if I have needed it, it’s been there for me.
@@D13-r9w the NHS is ranked number one in the developed world by the Commonwealth fund (an American organisation) the US is No.11 out of 11. The WHO ranks the UK at 18, the US at 37. It also costs around half as much and has slightly better results than the US, in some areas such as infant and maternal mortality or preventive medicine the US is way worse than any other developed nation.
@@D13-r9w Disagree entirely
Great topic, great interview! T.R. Reid rocks!
As long as the insurance companies are writing the laws and handing it to the Lazy representatives in Congress America is doomed.
+erdingtown
The health Insurance companies do run the country, and yes they bribe politicians to keep them in power.
No matter what is proposed, Congress will include something better for themselves. No dialysis after age 80? Unless you are or were a member of Congress. They will continue to get the same treatment as a 30 year old.
The average cost in other developed countries around $3000, per capita we spend almost$10,000 now. We have to take the complete power out of the insurance companies, the government has to regulate to protect the people, we pay so much more in administration bc of insurance. Or negotiate like other countries with the pharmacies
Healthcare should be a human right.
LOL you are right, except In America, The Land Of The Free, Rights seem to be in short supply these days. Nowadays we are more like total taxation without any representation. Where did our constitution disappear to?
It is a human right according to the UN convention human rights.
Samwell Tarly in civilized countries it is.
It is,actually
@@theresaduncan1081 Do you know how much, as a percentage, goes to the US military? Go on have a laugh because those that complain about tax also advocate more military spending.
Really well informed and incisive. Quality interview.
IF doctors just in it "for the money" I wouldn't want them to operate on me.
Me either, they might replace the wrong part! LOL
What's that old saying "D's get degrees". As long as they get their degree so that they can make millions they don't care.
Im an aussie.. and our health care is free too :)
Marie McPherson you pay a Medicare tax
UK NHS! Walk in, walk out, costs nothing! The best!
Actually the Australian model if prob better than France....it pays their doctors better than even the USA and the USA is NOT the richest country at ll..Reference: Credit Suisee...yearly country analysis
also the USA is NOT a democratic country......wow this guy is so un imformed
Barry Nichols Yep, we pay a 3% Medicare levy with our taxes, you know why? Because we care about our health and that of our fellow citizens, Costs us less than the US with better results and insurance companies don't pocket the excess. Makes sense to the rest of the world.
@@sabzzz333 its 2% :-)
Thank you for discussing this so deeply, and with direct experience of how other countries handle healthcare.
I'm a Brit, now retired and living in Canada, and with experience of working in America on quite a few occasions, for up to 9 months at a time. I have never had to worry about health care; it has always been there for me, at no charge other than insurance payments - and during the periods I have been out of work those have been zero, with no risk of losing my health care.
I look at the situation only an hour away to the south of me, and I am appalled: America is a great place to be if you have a job and you have good health; but lose either one of those two, and you're on the bread line or dead. Yet those who can afford health care pay twice as much as I do, and risk losing it at any moment.
Pre-existing conditions? Until I first needed healthcare in America, I'd never even heard the words.
Going bankrupt because I can't pay my healthcare bill? It never crossed my mind.
Getting permission for medical treatment from my insurance company? Why? If my doctor says I need it, I get it.
In Britain we created the NHS to be able to support injured and disabled servicemen and women after WW2, because we recognised that insurance schemes weren't going to cover them and they couldn't be expected to pay for it themselves. We were grateful for their service, and made the "moral" decision to thank them in practical ways. To make Britain a land fit for heroes, as the saying went. And found, to our surprise, that we could cover everyone for a moderate cost. The NHS is now the most beloved institution, across the board, whatever your politics, whatever your financial situation. And when it came to persuading people to vote for Brexit, what was the most entrancing vision they could dangle in front of us? To give the NHS all the money that we would save, that we would no longer contribute to European costs: £350million/week. That sum was grossly over-estimated, and the NHS has never received a penny of it. But the suggestion worked, because everyone in Britain loves the NHS.
And do you know why America hates the idea of having its own NHS? They call it socialism. To an American, that word alone stops any discussion dead.
This is an excellent reply. Hats off to you for so succinctly putting my thoughts into words. It is astounding that Americans blindly ignore facts and refuse to believe that in some things there is a better way than their way. Thank God that I was born in Britain with the NHS and now live in Australia with their national health system called Medicare. It never crosses my mind that I might be bankrupted if I fall ill. Indeed, I am re-assured that if I have an accident or do succumb to a terrible illness I will be taken care of with high quality treatment at no cost other than the taxes that I have already paid.
Thanks, @@dot10k. So nice to get an appreciative comment for once. 👍
@@robwhythe793 No problems. We are both lucky to live in such beautiful countries.
It's really difficult to understand for an European citizen that this situation exists in a country where the people show off their religiosity, human rights etc... And however let the poor people die, no matter the age, allows the death penalty and spends *"EACH"* year more than 500 billion dollars in weapons.
Also, USA spends more than any other civilized country (17% of GDP) in its health care systems and however million people don't have any kind of access to health care systems. Something smells really bad in that country. The first of the first in all countries should be the citizens and more still in the "richest" country of the world. Shame on them!
You hit the nail on the head in your first sentence - "people show off their religiosity, human rights, etc." It's all for show. The people with the power to make changes are hypocrites.
trump should watch this video instead of fox news.
He wouldn't care...he is incapable of empathy and he's not too smart.
So should Hilary and Pelosi! LOL
This was a great interview. The frontline piece "sick around the world" is also a good one to watch. Our healthcare is not as good as many countries and costs 17% of gdp. For me the worst thing about it is that it doesn't pay for "alternative" treatments. Doctors and pills don't really cure anything.....
Wooh. You can have private. insurance and there is even many companies too that give you a health insurance.Our hospitals have agreements with private hospitals too.Patient decides where they want to go.No waiting.No one dies.No greedy docs here.I live in Scandinavia.
I feel other countries regulate the pharmaceutical companies, keeping the cost or medicine down ...other factors play into it as well... regrettably pharmaceutical companies in the states pretty much run the healthcare system
Uk national insurance based on what you earn ,full coverage, 28 paid holidays per year, give me socialised medicine any day
The $2 lotto ticket was used to fund the Health System in Queensland, Australia.
20:18 to 22:50 Heart of the matter, is the health a human right or a privilege, morality vs profit.
My father once told me.
You can have all the private health insurance you want. Skip all the waiting lists you want. But in an emergency. The ambulance will take you to an NHS hospital. They are gonna be the ones trying to save your life.
your farther knew what he was talking about, indeed a wise man
Americans prefer to pay higher insurance rates, and higher income tax, rather than simply pay half (literally half) the amount of healthcare costs via income taxes directly, and get better coverage. Does it make sense? Only when you have vested interests to prevent proper changes, and ensure people stay misinformed.
I am an American and you are right. If a program makes common sense. economical sense, when you put a pencil to it, then our dumb assed government will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.
But common sense and economic sense both indicate that a public option is the best option.
You say better coverage but your healthcare system is not even among the Top 15 and it is supposed to be a developed country
That is why healthcare is down the tubes, because everything is about greed, and profit, so stay healthy!
I’m Australian we have excellent universal healthcare for all but if you want to be first in line for a knee replacement or a private room when you give birth there is a private insurance. option. This option also helps take some of the strain off the public system and it is subsidised by the government to keep it affordable.
The mistake is make business with the population's health, the healthcare must to be focused as a right of the citizens, ruled by the state governement and payed by taxes. From the point of view of a spanish citizen it has no sense to have 10 aircraft carriers sailing around the world if your people - rich and not so rich - can't dispose of good healthcare services at the same time.
A real democracy has to take care to their citizens
I have 2 girlfriends..one in Canada, one in the USA, both seem to be waiting the same time for simular problems. And for normal check ups the Canadian girlfriend gets in faster, plus she has a nurse that stops to check up on her, how well her meds are doing etc.every month.
Nothing will change because politics in the U.S operates on the 'system' of lobbies.Just like the NRA(for guns)the lobby that serves the medical establishment,is very strong
By the way, countries with a universal health care system spend no more than 11.5% of GDP on medicine. Taiwan 7.5. All are covered And here with the USA 19%, at the same time 45.000.000 without insurance. In reality, the US would save a minimum of 1.5 trillion a year. America would not borrow $1.000.000.000.000 annually.
thats a great interview, especially interesting to see how other countries handle it and have actually socialized healthcare. i didnt know that, from a german perspective.
@Almumin im content with the concept. I get the Care i need from my familiy doctor, dont have to wait, dont have to pay too much for the medicine. I am too healthy to judge the quality of healthcare in hospitals. Last Time i was taken Care pretty Well. The Hospital wasnt fancy, food was OK, but thats Not Important to me. They could Pump a little more into the system but i m fine with what i get
Awesome discussion 👍🏾
“Americans don’t know how cruel our system is”
We've got to be really careful in the countries with universal health care I'm Australia some blood test were made fee paying or only part fee paying , the problem is that instead if asking if the patient will pay most doctors don't order the tests that four years ago were free. I'd rather be asked plus it's so much harder to get certain drugs in the rest of the works and in the US it's much less regulated and much easier
As a Medicare patient, I still spend about $250 per month just for insurance.
If you were living in Great Britain, you would pay about 180 Dollar's a month for National Insurance, part of this goes to the NHS, and part of it goes towards paying you a pension when you reach retirement age, when you need to go to the doctors, all you have to pay is a prescription charge if your doctor gives you a prescription, at the minute it would be about 15 Dollars, i get two Asthma inhalers for that price, all other medical procedures cost you NOTHING extra. A few years ago I needed surgery to repair three hernias, i was in hospital three days, no charge, i needed cataract surgery,no charge, when our daughter was born, no charge, when my brother needed heart bypass surgery, he had a quadruple bypass, no charge, i have been to the US a few times and I love it, but give me the NHS any day.
@@daneelolivaw602 i paid my taxes towards your treatment and im glad you got it take care
@@geoffpriestley7001
Good for you, and no doubt all the money I paid in, for over 57 years, has helped a lot of people too.
@@daneelolivaw602 ive only been paying 50 years
@@geoffpriestley7001
Still a nipper then.
5:27 Germany 220 insurance companies - beyond insane! How do you possibly justify that much choice?
TH-cam recommended this to me. It is now the end of 2017. This healthcare system debate is still very alive. Unfortunately, America has backslid on the paltry improvements that Obama introduced with his ACA. The Republicans are busy dismantling Obamacare, and Speaker of the House Ryan says Medicaid and Medicare are next on the chopping block (Social Security is too tough to take on right now, he told his radio talk show interviewer). The morality of this smashing of the social safety for the poor, the uninsured and now our senior citizens is just unfathomable. The Republicans stylize themselves as evangelical, religious, God-fearing people. They aren't very Christian.
A 900 bed hospital in the USA has 200 full time staff working on billing. That is insane.
i find it immoral to deny treatment to the old
I find it immoral to deny healthcare to all
Guess what? Most old people when they are in that last year that famously costs 50% of your lifelong healthcare cost actually prefer to go. This prolonging life at all cost becomes a burden for the patient.
8 years ago this video was put on TH-cam and they hope people will deal with America's healthcare, jump to today and we have a party in power that wants to strip all of it away.
The US ‘health system is the most expensive with the worst outcomes in the world. What he claims about Canada is absolutely false. For some procedures, non-life threatening, like knee transplant, it might require some wait time, maybe a month or less, but you can get the procedure.
We sometimes have longer wait times
3:29 my observation as an outside from new Zealand is ... you live in a culture where money mess successes and those that have it diverse it and those who don't , don't personally i find the idea that some one would call the usa or any other contender "moral" laughable... why don't you have universal health care ? i don't know ... but what i do know is this the only reason something is not done is because either it cant be done or a choice has been made not to do it that is you have the resources but for what ever reason you have decided that the would be better spent some other way ... and to me the fact that you would put anything over a human life is vile ... you have people dyeing on you're streets in unending and unnecessary suffering but you chose to ignore it or explain it away as their or someone else's fault ...
7:25 either you get a benifit from the welfare depatment to help cover it or a hardship grant
8:19 i think it has more to do with you're paranoia about " them reds under the bed gonna getcha by) and this almost cult like belief in the "free market "
Om pure love 💕
Medicare for all
How people use health and issues to guide them today. Campus of Calvin college.
To bad we the people can't do anything about it, once you vote someone into office, they are no longer for the people..
Generally true, but I don't believe that it would be true of Bernie Sanders. He gets it and he's been fighting for the people for decades. But he's just one man. In the U.S. we have the House and the Senate that must cooperate. Otherwise Obama probably would have made universal healthcare an executive order. He tried to get the public option in but Congress (House and Senate) voted it down - his own Party, no less.
Spanish healthcare the best by far
Hardly.
We got top modern hospitals.Beds.Equipment.By the way.Some foriegner have sn accident.They are not charged.
Why has faith got to do with health care? I hope that heath care never involves faith
***** why did you say that?
***** You obviously have very different definition of the term "faith".
I have always taken it as "Believing in something for which there can be no evidence"
So " What exactly IS that pill made of" fails as you can actually go back through the records and find out.
So "What about that stranger coming at you with a knife? Can you trust him" fails as you can look up his training record, get a photo id from the hospital records. Do an online search.
Faith is what theists have about a god. they believe in something for which there is zero evidence.
*****
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faith
b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2)
"You BELIEVE that the pill is what you're TOLD it is"
No you can go and get it analysed.
What ever you come up with in heath care then there is a way to analyse it and come up with an answer, no faith needed.
Now you can trust that the pill is what you have been told it is.
BTW try and have a conversation on line without resorting to comments like "Fucking stupid" It just make you look bad...
*****
1 You make assertions that can be proven to false and refuse to acknowledge it.
2 You cannot get through a few sentences without cussing.
Enough said.....
*****
Next time try to read what has been said.
"You obviously have very different definition of the term "faith"."
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faithb (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2)
If you had bothered to follow the link you would see that it was the second of 2 definitions
And I do not get upset by plebs like you. I just enjoy smearing their noses in there own shit. Its one of my systems to wind people like you up.
"Health insurance premiums, high deductibles, co-pays, medical bankruptcy are a human right"… said no one ever. (:-( #MedicareForAll: free at point of care, will save you money but… "nah, socialism!" (:-( #M4A #UHC #UniversalHealthCoverage
Fundamental problem: assuming a “faith based” country is a moral country. There is no correlation.
all this good talk but it makes so little difference here in 2021. what a shame
We need to get rid of the notion of ‘health for profit’.
my healthcare is sending me offers for different sports or just gyms i can go for 10-15% less
misconception is that in Europe healthcare is free....It's not.....it is payed from taxes collected by revenue service ....
Free market isnt free too. It has some regulation.
We all pay in to the system and most have some claim during thier life time. its a bit like paying insurance you can whinge and whine about paying but you hope you never have a claim
THE NETHERLANDS IS SIMPLY THE BEST ON THIS!!!
Watching this.
*laughing in swedish*
We are wasting so much money.
The only thing the bad about America is it’s full of Americans. You guys are absolutely crazy. Here in the Uk we have Social health system owned by the government. From birth it’s free to use, until the day you start work as an adult, then you pay a percentage of you wage regardless what treatment you need. if you don’t earn due to ill health it’s doesn’t cost and the treatments the same. Our child care health system is second to none.
It’s doesn’t cost to have children, I have three a couldn’t have wish for better service for my wife on any of the births.We also 28 days a year paid holiday maternity for men and women 6 months. Americans are so ill informed
If you have a healthy, educated, Not Financially Bunkrupt citizenship, what’s the problem?
Have the cost. NO NO NO. more like 20% of the cost of american health care
Some Americans like to buy their place in the queue.
The funny thing is that you can do that in the uk as well if you want, some people use it to jump the queue but in the main most people don’t. The uk private healthcare is there mainly to provide healthcare for the wealthy and American companies’ expat employees.
There are MANY countries where Doctors earn MORE than in the USA
Pudding is in the pie? Sorry. I meant to say the proof is in the pudding. Pregnancy brain. Doh!
It's all about hate. If black people weren't going to benefit from universal healthcare, it would have been implemented. in the 1950s or 1960s. Reagan expressed that hate best when he talked about "Young Bucks" and "Welfare Queens".
La sanidad és para curar a la gente, no para enriquecer a aseguradoras y médicos.
This guy has OBVIOUSLY never been to Australia....why I say this is that the Doctors earn MORE than in the USA and actually get TIME off.......the cost to the individual is NOTHING if they opt for this and there is a selection to be in private insurance or not.....technolgy investment in Australia is actually MORE than in the USA...this guy has not properly researched this
Capitalism is not where you start!
MERKELS boy. I though he said he did research
Shirley drank the kool-aid. Keep believing in the American healthcare system honey. We are the pariah. Our system is broken at best.
Americans 🙄. Single pay systems just make sense. It is a moral question. Some people are making a lot of money at the expense of ordinary Americans.
Your representatives have been bought.
I dont understand why he says socialized medicine is bad if several countries with it have the best healthcare systems in the world
Lucía Gil he wasn’t. He was saying if you ask the average American, they would say “socialised medicine is bad”. It’s the stigma in the US of the word “socialism”.
@@tomnorton7817 And are too ignorant to understand the difference between 'socialised' and 'socialism'.
This might be harsh but it's the truth that the people in the interview and many americans don't want to say; money is what units americans. This country isn't moral as much as they say, otherwise the unequal distribution of wealth wouldn't be as extreme as this. Don't get me wrong, capitalism is the only effective economic model. However it needs some adjustment to fit a humane society. Americans and american politicians clearly don't give a shit :)
Greed
It is the quality of the doctors. You are totally insane concerning the
best healthcare! I was in the UK, London, with pneumonia and a
temperature of 105. They said I wasn't sick and couldn't possibly go to
the hospital!
Unbelievable!! By which I mean I don't believe you!
Total nonsense.
@@davidkeenan5642 He was talking bollocks.
Bad book bad data. Guy has no idea how the medical system works. He went around collecting stories not data.
This guy does not really seem to know his stuff
By the way, countries with a universal health care system spend no more than 11.5% of GDP on medicine. Taiwan 7.5. All are covered And here with the USA 19%, at the same time 45.000.000 without insurance. In reality, the US would save a minimum of 1.5 trillion a year. America would not borrow $1.000.000.000.000 annually.