@TheAmarican Really? Hmm. Mostly we hear what we want to hear and don't hear what we don't want to hear. Apart from that, yes to what you say except the blah, blah, blah bit. The thing is he is elucidating the mechanisms by which the rich exert influence, and the way they use philanthropy to hijack social change is NOT being articulated. The introduction of "philanthropy correspondents" is a good idea. And he is looking at what ordinary people can do to make a difference. What he says is true, most of us don't really know what's going on with our local politics.
Exactly. I have been complaining about the facade of philanthroy from the super wealthy and the bullshit about "leaning in". He explains it better than I can.
His approach is interesting. The audience ain't the working class. He is trying to pierce the bubble , not poping it , and replace the old air with fresh one. Thought, i am very skectical on his bet, he has somme special tact!
This is EXACTLY why Michael Dell saying that he doesn't want higher taxes because "his foundation does charity that he believes in." The fact is the changes that would improve society and make opportunity available to everybody ARE ANATHEMA to the alleged "elite" in the United States. Those who have anointed themselves "elite" do not want to actually prove that they are better, smarter, stronger, more creative, more benevolent etc. than those that they view as beneath them. This is especially true of trust fund babies who are wealthy by default. We have people running the country who appear to believe that everybody outside their social circle are inferior, unworthy and only useful as consumers, but unworthy for purposes of social support. The fact is: many of the great inventions of the last century came from people who actually worked in the industries for which they invented labor saving devices. The wringer washer was invented by a slave woman. The cotton gin was invented by a woman. The automatic transmission came from a black engineer and on, and on, and on. Creativity arises from need. Needs are often felt by those doing the work more quickly than their CEOs. We need to accept that and begin to invest in the education, housing and feeding of our middle and lower classes. We will all benefit including the very wealthy. In the United States, we need to begin looking at other countries' solutions. Norway beats our pants off academically. Let's look at their schooling system: what and how they're teaching.
He has a way of giving voice to impressions, misgivings and discomfort that I suspect a lot of us have with prevailing narratives given by our politicians and Titans of industry.
We Americans have been a bit brain washed with our Patriotism and Flags (I myself love my American Flag and love being patriotic) But it convinces us into thinking that because best, we have nothing more to learn, nothing to improve in our system. The classic fat and lazy argument. Thank you for your well spoken points. I think they are eye opening.
Simply inspirational. I Just hope this triggers many people. I have also thought about this concept of hailing these scammers who have hoarded wealth from the rest of us as saviours when indeed they aare the opposite.
How are they hoarding money from you when the government prints money on a constant basis? Just because someone makes a million dollars, does not mean you can't. Money is not a limited resource like oil or gold.
Anand Giridharadas, I agree with much of what you have said. I have actually passed legislation three times with NO money when I was younger. I was startled by what I found in the process. What is needed NOW is a return to Civics training that doesn't just cover how legislation is made, but what the role of lobbyists has been, understanding civil, state and federal budgets. There is actually a book on this topic on Amazon. People need to understand budgets more than anything AND HOW CERTAIN CHANGES THAT WERE MADE BY SOME OF THE LAST 5 PRESIDENTS have negatively impacted the independence of our government.
The opening example of Tobacco paying for anti- smoking ads sums this up perfectly, except most aren’t aware it is pretty much every industry and big company. Like in that documentary “what the health” sowing the companies donating the most to breast cancer awareness are the companies selling products that cause breast cancer.
Really? The people that created this website are billionaires. The person that invented the computer you are using is a billionaire. Billionaires are a byproduct of living in a world where you have access to all of these things. You don't want to live in a world where that isn't the case.
You will always have rich people, always, no escaping that fact, if it isn't business men then it will be emperors and dictators, you have to choose who will be the billionaire, someone has to be rich. North pole south pole, hierarchy is going to exist no matter what, people at the bottom and people at the top, new system means new rich people always. each system has it's elites. show some gratitude for the wealth you enjoy.
@@hdaviator9181 nice try at deflection. The one does not require the other. How sad for you that you demonstrated the very kind of attitude that girarharadas is talking about. I would add that Every Billionaire is a Predator - because they _became_ a billionaire by _stealing_ the value that their workforce contributed to _create_ all of that wealth. Billionaires are, more than anything, Wage Theft.
no way, be immersed and assailed and threatened by the toxic cesspool of grifters, grafters, interest-conflicted influence-peddlers, crony-corpiratist neofeudalists and just plain hard-core assholes-on-the-take ??
There has seldom been a better example of Billionaires protecting their own( through major media)....than the candidacy of Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020. Yet as a child during the 70s I remember a country that was so envied for their generosity. Now even giving to your Church seems sacrilegious because the Churchs message has become intertwined with the political religion of Greed.
In the 1990s Non-profits became "Non-governmental Organizations" and that was no accident. In some ways that's a good thing to not be government run but in all too many cases there is no oversight.
Thank you Anand for spending so much of this talk focusing on solutions. I knew that you had great ideas and insights in you! I know its important to report on the problems but we also need to report on the solutions and help people engage in them together.
Really glad this popped up on my list of vids to watch. Anand Giridharadas is a spectacular thinker and I find the majority of his observations are ideas that I'm in agreement with. Excellent presentation!!
It is amazing that a person of such great caliber as Anand GiridharaDas has emerged from this system! I am happy to have come across a few such great men and women(e.g., Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) in my life time. May such people inspire the young generation with their fairness doctrine (in the truest sense) all across the globe and make a difference in a decade or two. Jujitsu can also work the other way as well! I pray for their success!
Absolutely brilliant. I just discovered Mr. G on a MSM news interview! He validates what I've been thinking for years. I wish we'd focus less on taxes and philanthropy and more on wages, benefits, and profit sharing. Good companies (always small) share profits with everyone down to the floor sweeper. How does donating an opera house in a big city help the employees in the regional manufacturing facilities? Pthuh on Bill Gates and Tom Sterrett and their ilk. And he's young! Like AOC! Love him.
Thank you Anand, for truely sharpening the focus on this corporate take over of humanity. The endless struggle between rich and poor. The tragic flaw of a spiecies whose greed is so profound they foul their own nest with arrogant self entitlement and disregard for the future generations. I love it, the Goliath who thinks he is David. They are the slave trade, and the daily horrors committed on the global scale go way beyond any horror flick.
That was effin incredible to listen to. It's not news what he said, we all know it's happening but he can really tell a good story that peaks my interest.
You are right, Anand. How could those US companies getting rich in those Central American countries. work to get those governments to create a more fair life for their own people and get rid of the crime and corruption. This way it would make people want to remain instead of having to run away to another strange land and be victimized again.
It also allows policies like education policy to be unjustly controlled by oligarchs while being viewed as humanitarian even though had it been government provided the education policies would be superior and have less pro-billionaire propoganda like rand in the curriculum See Koch brothers or Bill Gates for a more successful
My main issue with elite philanthropists is that their gifts aren't conditionless. They tend to make sure their donations promote or at least are in line with their ideology.
These sorts of assessments take place every 50 years or so. Back in the '20s/'30s when there were similar levels of inequality and a movement began demanding that big business be accountable to the society. It was called "corporate social responsibility" and it was a re-examination of the role of business TO THE society. Business would not exist without a society yet it seems like the attitude of many of those who have benefited the most from this society regard it and its constituency as "disposable" and irrelevant to their lives. THIS IS WRONG. WE AS A SOCIETY NEED TO BEGIN ASKING HARD QUESTIONS LIKE: Is automating all jobs a good idea? Should we go there? If we do, what will happen to the people who have no jobs? WE ESPECIALLY NEED TO ASK WHAT GOOD IS OUR GOVERNMENT IF IT CANNOT WADE IN ON THESE QUESTIONS? Rutger Bregman's Realistic Utopia is a very good start for the conversation that needs to be had: "Why, when society makes business success possible, doesn't business take a more nurturing attitude towards the source of their success?" It is high time that this occurred.
12:59 '... we think that the rectification of these problems will lead to gulags, because we're ignorant...' Somebody please tell that to the people who believe everything said by Ayn Rand, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson et al is pure spun gold.
I can't believe that so many people are still trying to immigrate to the USA. That anyone but millionaires wants to live there. I live in a rather poor Eastern European country (within the EU). I earn 1000 USD per month. So does my girlfriend, and we live extremely well. No debt. Both of us have Master's degrees that we didn't pay a dime for. We have state-sponsored health insurance, which isn't great but we never have to worry about it. Our biggest bill is the 400 USD rent every month. We aren't able to buy a house yet (maybe in our fifties lol) so we're renting. We take 1- or 2-week vacations abroad 3 times a year. We can easily afford theatre, opera, movies, books, clothes. And we're actually poorer than most of our friends.
At the time of typing this response, there are 27 dislikes from Billionaires and other HNWIs. Anand, you are a gem for the Americans. I am an Indian and proud to be one. Whatever you said at the last can also be applied in our country. Look at the Ambanis, a recent report shows they spent 462 crore on philanthropy. But that's cheap compared to their electricity bill which is close to 1 crore. So yes, we need big change.
I agree and luckily even the dullest amongst us are figuring it out. When the baby boomers investment accounts get decimated that will be the last straw. The largest voting group in their elder years will have something to say at the polls. The debt-saddled kids will also vote in higher numbers. But how? Will they vote socialist with the boomers or conservative with the Austrian thinkers? One must be nimble today and prepared to be mobile.
Well let's see in many countries the number of people living in POVERTY the daily day in struggle to put food on the table having a decent roof over their backs the level of corruption the income inequality wealth inequality poor access to hospitals when it is needed WHAT IN HEAVENS NAME IS GOING ON CAPITALISM NOT delivering what their followers have been preaching for a long time
Anand has a point. People TRIED to create a meaningful movement to address a number of the issues that Anand raised here in the Occupy Wall Street movement. The problem was that it was not well thought out, and it didn't have the necessary links to and impact on politicians in order to influence the current American plutocracy in any meaningful way. We do need to take another shot at this, but think it out more thoroughly. One way or another, unless the plutocracy is addressed, the rich will keep serving the rich, and the rest of us will simply get what we get.
The moderator and the guest brought not only a lot of consonants, but also a lot of provocative ideas. If the system worked, we wouldn't need philanthropy. The most important quality of a leader is also the most undervalued and most neglected: the ability to inspire others to lead. It's not just enabling others to act, but enabling them to become leaders in their own right. Invariably, leaders want to stay in the forefront and simply cannot step aside and pass the baton. In science they say, progress is made one funeral at a time. We have to wait for some elite Stanford prof to pass away at the age of 90 before we can charter new perspectives. Dido in the real of political economy. Show me a system that overcomes this deficiency in human nature, and I will show you a system that will go viral. What we need is a "winner gives all" reframe.
Debra Legorreta “If the system worked, we wouldn’t need philanthropy”. Very well put. That’s the basic premise here. Anand then explains how the elites perpetuate that disfunction.
Right! Because critical thinking skills have been taken out of the school system! Now kids study to the test instead of being trained to think critically. And on top of that, we've got a cultural movement conflating "negative thinking" with critical thinking. We penalize people if they're not positive about everything all the time. And that of course deflates critical discussion.
you are absolutely correct - I am a retired nurse practitioner and spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to navigate a ridiculously expensive, inaccessible and complex medical system that rewards administrators, hospitals, medical industry profiteers and insurance CEO's plus pharmaceutical industry with billions of dollars...it's cruel and exhausting. Especially if one is ill or doesn't have the resources to pay for what they need. Unnecessarily. The resistance to change to a single payer system with "how can we ever afford it", "government takeover" is total propaganda put out by marketing firms lobbying for those who are making the most profit off this horribly broken healthcare system.
He’s right about the complexities in Obamacare. Which is caused by the insurance industry’s takeover of the program, and cloaking the program’s language in jargon that only someone skilled in the insurance industry language can understand it. Of course, the language is also designed to help the insurance companies to squeeze as many profits out of the program that they possibly can, without tipping ppl off to the facts, they, the insurance companies are the one’s who controls all aspects of the program , not Social Security or Medicare!
@39:04 The crux of this discussion..."We (only) recognise tyranny when it comes in the shape of King George. And we are totally blind to the tyranny of collective systems."
Great video, watched it a couple of times now! I think Anand's diagnosis of the issue is broadly on the money, however a more pragmatic solution than "billionaires seeing the light and doing the right thing" is required. I just don't think humans are hardwired to act so contrary to their immediate/medium-term interests.
"The sensible man must devote himself entirely to what is strictly necessary to him in order not to be dependent on anyone. But now, once he has achieved his security, if he wastes his time increasing his fortune, he is a scoundrel." - Stendhal
What the sensible man fails to realize is that he did not achieve his wealth on his own. He did it bu using the infrastructure built by a cohesive society with the tax dollars of every individual in it for the common good. The sensible man needs to realize he owes a debt to society for enabling his success. And if the sensible man has polluted and or caused damage to society or the natural world in the course of achieving his own success then he needs to compensate society for that damage. The sensible man needs to realize that he is not an island, that he does not exist in a vacuum, that like it or not he is an integral part of society and is only capable of achieving success within society as a result of that factual reality. In short, the sensible man needs to cease being such a selfish selferson.
"Fake change is what you get when you put the people with most to lose from change, incharge of change". Jay Z and the NFL, Breixt man the list is endless.
Would anyone today want to live in a feudalistic society? Our current capitalist system should expose the injustice that comes with it. If only privileged royalty and their family and friends would be abhorrent today, then we should recognize that the capitalist class today should be viewed in the same light!
Anand never ceases to amaze me. He's.... I don't wanna call him a younger Chomsky, because Aband isn't a radical, but he diagnoses the issues about capitalism SO well
Is the dynamic tyranny from authority versus tyranny from the collective? I don't think "collective" is an accurate discriptor for the chaos that comes from rampant individualism. A collective would be individuals banding together to improve conditions for all. Rugged individualism would be each person, or families at best, for themselves. Anarchism tends to collectivism and is not synonymous with lawless chaos. I'm not an anarchist myself, but I think the distinctions above are important.
When the Sacklers appear in court I have no doubt they will use their philanthropy as part of their defense. Let's hope they don't get any leniency because of it.
I know one place for sure and it's food banks in Kentucky I moved here from Colorado and was shocked at the difference between the two States and let me say Kentucky is starving the poor! In my opinion.
Make America sane again ! - safe again - smart again - sweet again - strong again - secure again - 😏 The MASA movement would make the world a safer place.
We do not want charity from thieves, we want decent salaries and benefits. We want a portion of the wealth our labor creates.
I love the way Anand articulates issues that I've been skirting around the edges of for quite a while.
EXACTLY Jim, he's spot on!👍🏼👍🏼
Me too
@TheAmarican Really? Hmm. Mostly we hear what we want to hear and don't hear what we don't want to hear. Apart from that, yes to what you say except the blah, blah, blah bit. The thing is he is elucidating the mechanisms by which the rich exert influence, and the way they use philanthropy to hijack social change is NOT being articulated. The introduction of "philanthropy correspondents" is a good idea. And he is looking at what ordinary people can do to make a difference. What he says is true, most of us don't really know what's going on with our local politics.
I just discovered Anand yesterday on TH-cam. He is already one of my favorites. Brilliant man.
Exactly. I have been complaining about the facade of philanthroy from the super wealthy and the bullshit about "leaning in". He explains it better than I can.
Refreshingly direct and concise talk about our "charity" institutions.
He is articulating so perfectly my long held sentiments and observations.
"There's nothing more dangerous than a Goliath who thinks they're a David". - Brilliant !!
"Philanthropy is an exercise of power." Damn
This guy is a genius.
Look at Democracy at Work
@@Duh108 amazing show. i watch it daily
why? he is just saying the obvious
@TheAmarican you're just too dumb to comprehend what he's trying to say.
His approach is interesting. The audience ain't the working class. He is trying to pierce the bubble , not poping it , and replace the old air with fresh one. Thought, i am very skectical on his bet, he has somme special tact!
THey "coopt the change and change the change so its winner friendly" ... brilliant . One of the best things I've heard in a long time.
This is EXACTLY why Michael Dell saying that he doesn't want higher taxes because "his foundation does charity that he believes in." The fact is the changes that would improve society and make opportunity available to everybody ARE ANATHEMA to the alleged "elite" in the United States. Those who have anointed themselves "elite" do not want to actually prove that they are better, smarter, stronger, more creative, more benevolent etc. than those that they view as beneath them. This is especially true of trust fund babies who are wealthy by default. We have people running the country who appear to believe that everybody outside their social circle are inferior, unworthy and only useful as consumers, but unworthy for purposes of social support.
The fact is: many of the great inventions of the last century came from people who actually worked in the industries for which they invented labor saving devices. The wringer washer was invented by a slave woman. The cotton gin was invented by a woman. The automatic transmission came from a black engineer and on, and on, and on. Creativity arises from need. Needs are often felt by those doing the work more quickly than their CEOs. We need to accept that and begin to invest in the education, housing and feeding of our middle and lower classes. We will all benefit including the very wealthy. In the United States, we need to begin looking at other countries' solutions. Norway beats our pants off academically. Let's look at their schooling system: what and how they're teaching.
K GN You outed yourself when you said “Soros”. Do yourself a favor and try and follow what he is saying, really try.
@TheAmarican you are a bot. Quit copying and pasting your responses.
But that makes sense not $$.
Stop paying charity and pay American workers
Anand Giridharadas's book is one of the best most brilliant efforts I have ever read. Everyone needs to read this book.
"Fake change, is what you get when you put the people with the most to lose from real change, in charge of change." - fucking spot on.
My answer is yes, the elites are making the world better for elites and worse for everyone else.
He has a way of giving voice to impressions, misgivings and discomfort that I suspect a lot of us have with prevailing narratives given by our politicians and Titans of industry.
I love how clearly he says his points which are genuine and spot on. Dang I’m gonna start listening to this man more and read his book
Anand Giridharadas is brilliant!!! Articulate, forward thinking, relevant... necessary!
I like this man, he's saying it as it is.
We Americans have been a bit brain washed with our Patriotism and Flags (I myself love my American Flag and love being patriotic) But it convinces us into thinking that because best, we have nothing more to learn, nothing to improve in our system. The classic fat and lazy argument. Thank you for your well spoken points. I think they are eye opening.
well said, completely agree
What makes the con more pliable is that it first convinces us into thinking that we are the "best" without much corroboration.
Simply inspirational. I Just hope this triggers many people. I have also thought about this concept of hailing these scammers who have hoarded wealth from the rest of us as saviours when indeed they aare the opposite.
My first day in the union shop as a teen and saw "Off the Bigs" written on a shed wall got me into game for good.
How are they hoarding money from you when the government prints money on a constant basis? Just because someone makes a million dollars, does not mean you can't. Money is not a limited resource like oil or gold.
Anand Giridharadas, I agree with much of what you have said. I have actually passed legislation three times with NO money when I was younger. I was startled by what I found in the process. What is needed NOW is a return to Civics training that doesn't just cover how legislation is made, but what the role of lobbyists has been, understanding civil, state and federal budgets. There is actually a book on this topic on Amazon. People need to understand budgets more than anything AND HOW CERTAIN CHANGES THAT WERE MADE BY SOME OF THE LAST 5 PRESIDENTS have negatively impacted the independence of our government.
Super pertinent information. Wish it had a higher view count.
I really love this guy! Thank you for putting this on.👍
This is amazing. I have a saying: "The first thing change needs to change is the words we use." And Mr. Giridharadas employs it so powerfully.
I'd like to hear Ansnd's opinion on the fact that corporations have more power than any nation.
The opening example of Tobacco paying for anti- smoking ads sums this up perfectly, except most aren’t aware it is pretty much every industry and big company. Like in that documentary “what the health” sowing the companies donating the most to breast cancer awareness are the companies selling products that cause breast cancer.
We need more people like this in politics
Poverty in US TODAY is closer to 50%, it was less than 25% when Reagan was elected.
3 people own more wealth than the bottom 90% of our population combined... let that sink in.
The master of de-regulation, followed by Bill Clinton
This guy is actually smart enough to see the fundamental flaws in our disgusting system... It really is a breath of fresh air...
Just pay your workers a living wage. This depends on what area of the country one lives in but cheez they know what a living wage is.
And stop raising the cost of living as wages rise to catch up!
Stop giving companies so much power. Take some back, like by forming a workers union.
Why can't billionaires pay their workers a living wage? If they did their workers could afford to buy the products they make.
a living wage is one that you accept when you sign the contract.
every Billionaire is a policy failure
Really? The people that created this website are billionaires. The person that invented the computer you are using is a billionaire. Billionaires are a byproduct of living in a world where you have access to all of these things. You don't want to live in a world where that isn't the case.
every Billionaire is a crime against humanity
You will always have rich people, always, no escaping that fact, if it isn't business men then it will be emperors and dictators, you have to choose who will be the billionaire, someone has to be rich. North pole south pole, hierarchy is going to exist no matter what, people at the bottom and people at the top, new system means new rich people always. each system has it's elites. show some gratitude for the wealth you enjoy.
@@ZennExile Be grateful for the wealth you enjoy.
@@hdaviator9181 nice try at deflection. The one does not require the other. How sad for you that you demonstrated the very kind of attitude that girarharadas is talking about. I would add that Every Billionaire is a Predator - because they _became_ a billionaire by _stealing_ the value that their workforce contributed to _create_ all of that wealth. Billionaires are, more than anything, Wage Theft.
Anand for President! I would canvas for this guy in a heartbeat.
no way,
be immersed and assailed and threatened by the toxic cesspool of grifters, grafters, interest-conflicted influence-peddlers, crony-corpiratist neofeudalists and just plain hard-core assholes-on-the-take ??
lewie spearman him and Andrew Yang are on the same page
There has seldom been a better example of Billionaires protecting their own( through major media)....than the candidacy of Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020. Yet as a child during the 70s I remember a country that was so envied for their generosity. Now even giving to your Church seems sacrilegious because the Churchs message has become intertwined with the political religion of Greed.
The paradox is so real. This is a very interesting question for me. As a person in nonprofit, I think about the effectiveness all the time.
In the 1990s Non-profits became "Non-governmental Organizations" and that was no accident.
In some ways that's a good thing to not be government run but in all too many cases there is no oversight.
Thank you Anand for spending so much of this talk focusing on solutions. I knew that you had great ideas and insights in you! I know its important to report on the problems but we also need to report on the solutions and help people engage in them together.
Really glad this popped up on my list of vids to watch. Anand Giridharadas is a spectacular thinker and I find the majority of his observations are ideas that I'm in agreement with. Excellent presentation!!
This guy is absolutely amazing. Gotta find him on tour. Astounding.
He so speaks the truth, what a relief to see someone articulate so well the reality in America. Thank you Anand.
It is amazing that a person of such great caliber as Anand GiridharaDas has emerged from this system! I am happy to have come across a few such great men and women(e.g., Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) in my life time. May such people inspire the young generation with their fairness doctrine (in the truest sense) all across the globe and make a difference in a decade or two.
Jujitsu can also work the other way as well! I pray for their success!
Absolutely brilliant. I just discovered Mr. G on a MSM news interview! He validates what I've been thinking for years. I wish we'd focus less on taxes and philanthropy and more on wages, benefits, and profit sharing. Good companies (always small) share profits with everyone down to the floor sweeper. How does donating an opera house in a big city help the employees in the regional manufacturing facilities? Pthuh on Bill Gates and Tom Sterrett and their ilk. And he's young! Like AOC! Love him.
Thank you Anand, for truely sharpening the focus on this corporate take over of humanity. The endless struggle between rich and poor. The tragic flaw of a spiecies whose greed is so profound they foul their own nest with arrogant self entitlement and disregard for the future generations. I love it, the Goliath who thinks he is David. They are the slave trade, and the daily horrors committed on the global scale go way beyond any horror flick.
That was effin incredible to listen to.
It's not news what he said, we all know it's happening but he can really tell a good story that peaks my interest.
What a blessing Anand G. is to the American discussion! LeBron should be talking to him, on how to really make a difference!
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a president as articulate as either one of these guys? #Bigly.
Such a deluge of clarity is refreshing.
You are right, Anand. How could those US companies getting rich in those Central American countries. work to get those governments to create a more fair life for their own people and get rid of the crime and corruption. This way it would make people want to remain instead of having to run away to another strange land and be victimized again.
The banking industry wirldwide needs to be re-regulated to change the current exploitation.
"The Spider's Web: Britain's Second Empire (Documentary)"
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Quit spamming the page about Central America.
Philanthropy encourages the state not to cover crucial needs through taxation
It also allows policies like education policy to be unjustly controlled by oligarchs while being viewed as humanitarian even though had it been government provided the education policies would be superior and have less pro-billionaire propoganda like rand in the curriculum
See Koch brothers or Bill Gates for a more successful
Love it!!! Bernie has been Talking About this From very Early in his career. We Are Waking Up. BERNIE 2020!!!!!
My main issue with elite philanthropists is that their gifts aren't conditionless. They tend to make sure their donations promote or at least are in line with their ideology.
These sorts of assessments take place every 50 years or so. Back in the '20s/'30s when there were similar levels of inequality and a movement began demanding that big business be accountable to the society. It was called "corporate social responsibility" and it was a re-examination of the role of business TO THE society. Business would not exist without a society yet it seems like the attitude of many of those who have benefited the most from this society regard it and its constituency as "disposable" and irrelevant to their lives. THIS IS WRONG. WE AS A SOCIETY NEED TO BEGIN ASKING HARD QUESTIONS LIKE: Is automating all jobs a good idea? Should we go there? If we do, what will happen to the people who have no jobs? WE ESPECIALLY NEED TO ASK WHAT GOOD IS OUR GOVERNMENT IF IT CANNOT WADE IN ON THESE QUESTIONS? Rutger Bregman's Realistic Utopia is a very good start for the conversation that needs to be had: "Why, when society makes business success possible, doesn't business take a more nurturing attitude towards the source of their success?" It is high time that this occurred.
12:59 '... we think that the rectification of these problems will lead to gulags, because we're ignorant...' Somebody please tell that to the people who believe everything said by Ayn Rand, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson et al is pure spun gold.
How wonderful this fellow is! Listen to him.
I can't believe that so many people are still trying to immigrate to the USA. That anyone but millionaires wants to live there. I live in a rather poor Eastern European country (within the EU). I earn 1000 USD per month. So does my girlfriend, and we live extremely well. No debt. Both of us have Master's degrees that we didn't pay a dime for. We have state-sponsored health insurance, which isn't great but we never have to worry about it. Our biggest bill is the 400 USD rent every month. We aren't able to buy a house yet (maybe in our fifties lol) so we're renting. We take 1- or 2-week vacations abroad 3 times a year. We can easily afford theatre, opera, movies, books, clothes. And we're actually poorer than most of our friends.
Anand has just the right amount of smart ass. Love this guy.
Citizens United has to be one of the great priorities for anyone who loves this country - getting rid of it!
Good questions produce good answers. Great interview. We need to Question more.
Thank you, Anand Giridharadas.
Thank you...some of us are awake to what is going on in the name of good and philantropy.
Anand is an intellect 🙏🏼
"We think the world is here" so true. Most of the American people are ignorant about the rest of the world.
At the time of typing this response, there are 27 dislikes from Billionaires and other HNWIs. Anand, you are a gem for the Americans. I am an Indian and proud to be one. Whatever you said at the last can also be applied in our country. Look at the Ambanis, a recent report shows they spent 462 crore on philanthropy. But that's cheap compared to their electricity bill which is close to 1 crore. So yes, we need big change.
We need to spread exposure of him and the Chris Hedges of America into other's lives.
You are a very insightful person. Thanks for talking about it. I don't know if those listening even get it.
I LOVE what this guy is saying
Let me answer. No. It's a cabal of super predatory capitalist bankers that control the world. They should all be guillotined.
I agree and luckily even the dullest amongst us are figuring it out. When the baby boomers investment accounts get decimated that will be the last straw. The largest voting group in their elder years will have something to say at the polls. The debt-saddled kids will also vote in higher numbers. But how? Will they vote socialist with the boomers or conservative with the Austrian thinkers? One must be nimble today and prepared to be mobile.
Oh, no, nobody need get all civil here. Torn to pieces or defenestrated, maybe a bonfire. Its the least we can do.
Well let's see in many countries the number of people living in POVERTY the daily day in struggle to put food on the table having a decent roof over their backs the level of corruption the income inequality wealth inequality poor access to hospitals when it is needed WHAT IN HEAVENS NAME IS GOING ON CAPITALISM NOT delivering what their followers have been preaching for a long time
Facts
YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Smart guy, The way he explain things he is very passionate about things he talks about.
Anand has a point. People TRIED to create a meaningful movement to address a number of the issues that Anand raised here in the Occupy Wall Street movement. The problem was that it was not well thought out, and it didn't have the necessary links to and impact on politicians in order to influence the current American plutocracy in any meaningful way. We do need to take another shot at this, but think it out more thoroughly. One way or another, unless the plutocracy is addressed, the rich will keep serving the rich, and the rest of us will simply get what we get.
This guy is brilliant !!!!
The moderator and the guest brought not only a lot of consonants, but also a lot of provocative ideas. If the system worked, we wouldn't need philanthropy. The most important quality of a leader is also the most undervalued and most neglected: the ability to inspire others to lead. It's not just enabling others to act, but enabling them to become leaders in their own right. Invariably, leaders want to stay in the forefront and simply cannot step aside and pass the baton. In science they say, progress is made one funeral at a time. We have to wait for some elite Stanford prof to pass away at the age of 90 before we can charter new perspectives. Dido in the real of political economy. Show me a system that overcomes this deficiency in human nature, and I will show you a system that will go viral. What we need is a "winner gives all" reframe.
Debra Legorreta “If the system worked, we wouldn’t need philanthropy”. Very well put. That’s the basic premise here. Anand then explains how the elites perpetuate that disfunction.
‘’The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world he did not exist.” - Kaiser Soze
One of the problems is People lacking the skills of critical thinking. People questioning the system, and the status quo.
Yes yes yes
Right! Because critical thinking skills have been taken out of the school system! Now kids study to the test instead of being trained to think critically. And on top of that, we've got a cultural movement conflating "negative thinking" with critical thinking. We penalize people if they're not positive about everything all the time. And that of course deflates critical discussion.
this guy could be a great comedian and his ideas are spot on.
Fool! It's Jerry Seinfeld in disguise.
you are absolutely correct - I am a retired nurse practitioner and spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to navigate a ridiculously expensive, inaccessible and complex medical system that rewards administrators, hospitals, medical industry profiteers and insurance CEO's plus pharmaceutical industry with billions of dollars...it's cruel and exhausting. Especially if one is ill or doesn't have the resources to pay for what they need. Unnecessarily. The resistance to change to a single payer system with "how can we ever afford it", "government takeover" is total propaganda put out by marketing firms lobbying for those who are making the most profit off this horribly broken healthcare system.
Phenomenal. Clear and concise and right.
Anand, you are a good man. Much appreciated.
"Taxes, taxes, taxes. The rest is bullshit."
He’s right about the complexities in Obamacare. Which is caused by the insurance industry’s takeover of the program, and cloaking the program’s language in jargon that only someone skilled in the insurance industry language can understand it. Of course, the language is also designed to help the insurance companies to squeeze as many profits out of the program that they possibly can, without tipping ppl off to the facts, they, the insurance companies are the one’s who controls all aspects of the program , not Social Security or Medicare!
Smart guy. I can see why he no longer works at the Times.
Amazing man, you're my inspiration.
Elite hoarding is a sick and fantastic deep concept
This is great, thank you.
@39:04 The crux of this discussion..."We (only) recognise tyranny when it comes in the shape of King George. And we are totally blind to the tyranny of collective systems."
Really good interview. Thanks very much
Great video, watched it a couple of times now! I think Anand's diagnosis of the issue is broadly on the money, however a more pragmatic solution than "billionaires seeing the light and doing the right thing" is required. I just don't think humans are hardwired to act so contrary to their immediate/medium-term interests.
Winners Take All! TAKE is the key word...not earned...not worked for...not due..but TAKE as a polite word for steal or stole!
He's like the perfect polar opposite of the announcer from Hunger Games lmao
Excellent! You give me hope.
Completely agree with Anand; he's spot on.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🤗🤗
"The sensible man must devote himself entirely to what is strictly necessary to him in order not to be dependent on anyone. But now, once he has achieved his security, if he wastes his time increasing his fortune, he is a scoundrel." - Stendhal
Wow, Stendhal is an idiot.
What the sensible man fails to realize is that he did not achieve his wealth on his own. He did it bu using the infrastructure built by a cohesive society with the tax dollars of every individual in it for the common good. The sensible man needs to realize he owes a debt to society for enabling his success. And if the sensible man has polluted and or caused damage to society or the natural world in the course of achieving his own success then he needs to compensate society for that damage. The sensible man needs to realize that he is not an island, that he does not exist in a vacuum, that like it or not he is an integral part of society and is only capable of achieving success within society as a result of that factual reality.
In short, the sensible man needs to cease being such a selfish selferson.
"Fake change is what you get when you put the people with most to lose from change, incharge of change". Jay Z and the NFL, Breixt man the list is endless.
Great stuff! Thank you.
Would anyone today want to live in a feudalistic society? Our current capitalist system should expose the injustice that comes with it. If only privileged royalty and their family and friends would be abhorrent today, then we should recognize that the capitalist class today should be viewed in the same light!
This guy for president
Anand never ceases to amaze me. He's.... I don't wanna call him a younger Chomsky, because Aband isn't a radical, but he diagnoses the issues about capitalism SO well
Thank you Anand
Brilliant man !
Is the dynamic tyranny from authority versus tyranny from the collective? I don't think "collective" is an accurate discriptor for the chaos that comes from rampant individualism. A collective would be individuals banding together to improve conditions for all. Rugged individualism would be each person, or families at best, for themselves. Anarchism tends to collectivism and is not synonymous with lawless chaos. I'm not an anarchist myself, but I think the distinctions above are important.
When the Sacklers appear in court I have no doubt they will use their philanthropy as part of their defense. Let's hope they don't get any leniency because of it.
Fascinating talk
I know one place for sure and it's food banks in Kentucky I moved here from Colorado and was shocked at the difference between the two States and let me say Kentucky is starving the poor! In my opinion.
business needs to stop thinking its government and government needs to stop thinking its business
yes!
Make America sane again ! - safe again - smart again - sweet again - strong again - secure again -
😏 The MASA movement would make the world a safer place.