Texas Tower Sniper - Charles Whitman - Forgotten History

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  • @carolbrandt-og5nz
    @carolbrandt-og5nz ปีที่แล้ว +487

    Just adding to your story- The "other officer" that hid with Billy Speed behind the stone wall was my dad, Jerry Culp. He was Speed's partner. The bullet hole where Whitman shot at them is still in the wall, filled in but absolutely still there. My dad's Sam Browne was grazed that day, and his hat also had a hole in it. My parents met at the police station where my mom also worked. The story I was told was they met after this event when my dad stormed through the APD building after Speed died, kicking the door off the hinge. My mom was a secretary in the building. I was born in 1972, and still live in Austin. What a wonderful episode of this event. So glad I found it!!

    • @jackshittle
      @jackshittle ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Wow - amazing story & to have that involving your dad.

    • @bobbyallen7977
      @bobbyallen7977 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Awesome

    • @mikenixon2401
      @mikenixon2401 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed ... from San Antonio

    • @elxse4478
      @elxse4478 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Proof ?

    • @databattlesz
      @databattlesz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pics or it didn’t happen. Anyone could get into the comments and say did anything, where is your proof?

  • @charlesm6823
    @charlesm6823 ปีที่แล้ว +1300

    You left out one of the most intriguing and tragic aspects of the story. In his suicide notes, Whitman requested that an autopsy be performed on his body because he suspected something was a matter with his brain. And, of course, he was proven right.

    • @emt5330
      @emt5330 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      From what I have read, had this not happened, he would have died within a year at most

    • @patgalvez4563
      @patgalvez4563 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      He had a brain tumour and knew it...

    • @emt5330
      @emt5330 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @patgalvez4563 he had an inkling that something was wrong with him but did nor know exactly what

    • @genefogarty5395
      @genefogarty5395 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@shirleyaprile4838 My father was there at the same time, there's nothing wrong with him.

    • @genefogarty5395
      @genefogarty5395 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shirleyaprile4838 '53-'85, but the earlier you were there, the less of concentrated levels were present. My dad got a settlement check in '17 for 10k tax free because there was really nothing wrong with him at his age. The peak levels were measured in the 'mid '70s and those people are getting the most as long as they have ill effects, 50-150k. The whistleblower and law firms are the ones making the real money. My dad said he drank more beer than water when he was there and usually showered off base at houses of ill repute, the chow hall wasn't a place he wanted to eat at either, lol.

  • @jlh4jc
    @jlh4jc ปีที่แล้ว +632

    What's not mentioned is a few good Samaritans with high powered deer rifles arrived on campus to help as police service revolvers couldn't reach that high. They shot at the Tower and distracted Whitman while the officers made their way to the top. According to Neal Spelce, the local reporter, most of the casualties took place early on. Once the citizens with deer rifles started shooting at Whitman, it distracted him and prevented more lives from being lost.

    • @fredwalker3374
      @fredwalker3374 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      Today Austin DA would arrest these people

    • @Iceflame38
      @Iceflame38 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If Joe Biden has his way, civilians won't be able to help the next time this happens because they won't be able to own firearms, only the criminals will have guns under Democrat rule.

    • @anthonycaruso8443
      @anthonycaruso8443 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Bigly.Go 2A

    • @sandeedobberstine5591
      @sandeedobberstine5591 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you for the information 🇺🇸

    • @IvanRodriguez-hl4pg
      @IvanRodriguez-hl4pg ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well, that's as may be, jlh, but many of those rounds fired up to the tower only managed to tear through windows on the lower floors and may have hit any by-standers who may have been standing too close to those windows.

  • @DonnaAbrams-qh7zt
    @DonnaAbrams-qh7zt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I’m 75 and lived in Dallas at the time. I will never forget a minute of it.

  • @emerycapt1350
    @emerycapt1350 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I was there and one of Whitman’s bullets broke the glass in my father’s store, he put us kids in a back room and only let us out after it was over.

    • @NextExiter
      @NextExiter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It would be funny if he let you out BEFORE it was over. “Kids it looks like the fire storm’s dying down, come on out.”

  • @md9680
    @md9680 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Just a few days before, I had turned 14 while visiting my grandmother in Dallas. Some friends across the street, who had heard news of the event on their radio, ran over to my grandmother's house to let us know what was happening. Their eighteen year old daughter, who was about to enter her first year at UT, was in Austin and they were understandably anxious as to her safety. She later called them to let them know she was fine and that she had been inside one of the stores on the drag, the University Co-Op, I think. All of us were relieved when she drove into the driveway early that evening. Thanks for posting the video. I learned much more about the people and events than I had known.

    • @troubleshooter166
      @troubleshooter166 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was 9yrs old. Remember all the confusion in the news reporting. Public didn't seem to get many answers until a made for television movie. And we know how the movie industry tinkers with the truth!

  • @deadseveredheads
    @deadseveredheads ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Man, this is becoming my favorite channel!

  • @orno8906
    @orno8906 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    this is the most comprehensive account that i have ever seen. Thank you for doing such a thorough presentation.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're very welcome!

    • @wadewilson8011
      @wadewilson8011 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, he missed a few key details: 1. Charles Whitman left in his suicide note that he requested for his brain to be examined for irregularities. It indeed did.
      2. There were many local citizens who showed up with their personal hunting rifles to assist police to shoot at Whitman.

  • @jimcooley2348
    @jimcooley2348 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I was in class at Garrison Hall directly below the UT Tower when Whitman started firing. It was a day I will never forget. This documentary is a very accurate description of what happened that day.

    • @Slickthecat1
      @Slickthecat1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except that part about Chuck's Gun Shop. Area code 708 is in Illinois.

  • @backinnam1975
    @backinnam1975 ปีที่แล้ว +1437

    How many of you guys first learned about this guy from full metal jacket?

    • @sirdarklust
      @sirdarklust ปีที่แล้ว +98

      I learned about it from the 1970s TV movie about him.

    • @Maxxxxxxxx1
      @Maxxxxxxxx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of you dumba$$es knows...

    • @Nate-bn5kk
      @Nate-bn5kk ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Learned about it from my dad, he graduated there shortly before the incident if I remember correctly.

    • @davidthomspson9771
      @davidthomspson9771 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I did

    • @rossbabcock3790
      @rossbabcock3790 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I watched it on TV.

  • @bijouxdoum6199
    @bijouxdoum6199 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is my favorite new youtube channel. So glad to find you

  • @bobwallace1880
    @bobwallace1880 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I was on campus that day. I am 77 years old now but I can remember it vividly. In those days before 911, funeral homes had ambulances. Several of the funeral homes sent both ambulances and hearses to take people to Breckenridge Hospital. One was a funeral director from Hyltin-Manor was Morris Hohlman (sp?). He was shot but continue to evacuate students and take them to the hospital. He later took some of the victims to the medical examiners office.

    • @bunk95
      @bunk95 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hospitals are fictional however. Who goes to fictional places?

    • @1olddirtroad
      @1olddirtroad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Two members of a responding ambulance was wounded by skip fire under the ambulance they were taking cover behind

    • @degengam2781
      @degengam2781 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s cap

    • @ej2953
      @ej2953 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I used to know a woman who was a secretary on campus at day. I haven't seen her in about forty years now so my recollections are far from perfect. I think that she was just leaving for lunch when she found out about the shooting and had to take cover.

  • @jpbowie
    @jpbowie ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I had the pleasure of meeting Alan Crum in Vegas in the seventies. We worked together at the MGM Grand. He was soft-spoken very down to earth guy. He told me some of what happened that day, but downplayed his part in stopping Whitman.

  • @robpolaris7272
    @robpolaris7272 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    The worst part of this was that he knew something was wrong with him, he tried to get help and was refused multiple times. He asked that they do an autopsy and sure enough they found a mass in his brain.

    • @carolholt3313
      @carolholt3313 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The tumor wasn't thought to be the cause of his mental illness.

    • @truthadvocacy
      @truthadvocacy ปีที่แล้ว

      Millions with brain tumors didn't act like he did. He was a born criminal.

    • @Rebelartist83
      @Rebelartist83 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Let's be honest in the 1960s they didn't know crap about things like this and we're still issuing Lobotomies till I think 69??..not defending the guy hell no what he did deserves prison if he didn't off himself but if he was held in the main psyche hospital and actually taken seriously he probably could have gotten what help albeit pretty archaic and still 19th century ish still but he'd have gotten some help but electric shock and a lobotomy and padded cell might've been all he got tbh but the irony is the electric shock might've helped the tumor especially a small pecan size one .as the video says..who knows but all it takes is a little malignancy or some brain disease or infected drinking water to really eff you up and he would have both maybe it's safe to say this guy was one of the first victims of camp Lejunes water idk I'm not military and my old man's ex army but I was raised to respect everyone and all branches of the military..but the alcoholic stuff and other crap he had going on in his skull wasn't helping him any..I kinda understand to a small certain degree it took many years to determine i was Autistic and not Narcissistic or a Psycho in the late 90s early 00s.. and even as late as 2003 I could've had a very good chance of being thrown away in the Denton State school for the retarded so yeah pretty nuts pardon the pun..and please excuse my lack of punctuation my eyesights isn't the best and take care and God bless and have a wonderful day..and please excuse my nerding out i love history even the sad effed up kind from my own backyard cause we can learn from it maybe how to properly medically help someone and also what not to do again
      Pretty nuts though how now people go yup the tumor effed that guy up or maybe the water gave it to him pretty wild..

    • @robpolaris7272
      @robpolaris7272 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@carolholt3313 That’s what the doctors said after his rampage , I wonder why.. they didn’t want to be held accountable for ignoring him asking for help multiple times.
      Are you familiar with Johnny Lewis?
      Never was violent in his life. He had a motorcycle accident. His behavior completely changed.
      His parents took him to a specialist. His brain scan showed a mass in his brain. They said “It wasn’t significant enough to change his behavior”.
      Not long after he mutilated his neighbors cat, killed the neighbor and jumped headfirst off the two story roof. He had no drugs or alcohol in his system or history of abuse.
      Point being doctors know almost nothing about the human brain. We know more about the universe that we do the human brain.

    • @davidthomspson9771
      @davidthomspson9771 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A small mass...and nowhere near it would cause such a wicked problem with him

  • @josecolon8143
    @josecolon8143 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This channel takes the last 30 min of my class! Then my students don’t want to leave the classroom! Thank you for all you do!

  • @scottfoster2639
    @scottfoster2639 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Living in Austin, I have heard many versions of the massacre. My ex-gf's dad was on campus that day and described it as well as a 19 y/o kid would have seen it. Unfortunately, many of those that were there are dying off and there is a 'myth' forming over the story, thanks for setting it straight.

    • @joeneighbor
      @joeneighbor ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In any incident people have different points of view.
      How the mind works, we fill in the blanks of what we saw and didn't see, and form some sort of recall of events.
      So often in incidents (crime, accidents, etc.) witnesses say different things to a greater or lessor degree.
      Of course assuming people are not lying to cover things up or just embellishing a story for impact.
      Not an expert, just my understanding from critical thinking study..

    • @anthonycaruso8443
      @anthonycaruso8443 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What 'myth"

  • @donnalayton6876
    @donnalayton6876 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Those of us who were alive at the time have not forgotten.

    • @degengam2781
      @degengam2781 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think no one is still alive from back then twin and if they is they too old to work a computer

    • @williamanthony9090
      @williamanthony9090 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IKR? Forgotten by whom?!?

    • @Rogers2424
      @Rogers2424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’d be surprised lol

    • @janeferguson4455
      @janeferguson4455 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Never Will !

    • @miatalamasca3723
      @miatalamasca3723 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My mother is 80 years old and she does all of her work on her computer. Take several seats. ​@@degengam2781

  • @KenSquier
    @KenSquier ปีที่แล้ว +249

    I was there. There were two of us that were driving the armored cars to try and rescue those that were either shot or too scared to move. There were heroes that day, but two of the policemen didn't want to be recognized as being part of it. I only want to set the record straight: Charlie Whitman was no misunderstood tragic victim. He was a self-absorbed, whiney bully that does not deserve any sympathy. Liked carrying weapons around with him and a copy of Soldier of Fortune. Thought he gained respect that way. Blamed everybody, and everything, else for any failures-no matter how small. I knew Charlie--I wish I hadn't. What set Charlie off was: he was on scholastic probation and needed to go to class that summer to get his grades up to stay in school. His father, and mother, had told him if he flunked out they weren't going to pay for his living expenses any more. He was failing one of his classes and the instructor told him he wouldn't change his grade to let him pass and stay in school. His mother told him he wasn't getting any more money. He was used to beating up his wife--and liked it. Charlie was no hero. Nor misunderstood. Nor blameless.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Good post thanks.

    • @sugwilliams6257
      @sugwilliams6257 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you for boldly sharing the truth. Several years I watched a documentary about this incident and some of his personal failures leading up to the massacre were revealed.👍🏾

    • @Purewood357
      @Purewood357 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      People in glass houses Ken…. We are all selfish and self absorbed in our own ways. Humans would never have survived and evolved if they weren’t!

    • @kathrynleaser5093
      @kathrynleaser5093 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are always at least two sides to the story. Thanks for your side.
      Makes sense of a lot of what was said in more detail. Hope your well thanks again😊

    • @nomadmarauder-dw9re
      @nomadmarauder-dw9re 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Soldier of Fortune magazine didn't appear until the 1970s. In 1966 Bob Brown was active duty, not a retired SF Opo in the media business. The rest of your story is probably true though.

  • @austinartist0608
    @austinartist0608 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm from Austin. I was one year old when my mother, myself and my 2 brothers came across a road block in the UT area. She was told there was a sniper. In 1985 my boss at Austin Bearing Corp. told me he was a student at UT and was walking along carefree on campus. He said he heard the noise of the gunfire but thought it was from a construction project. He was stopped by several people hiding at a corner of a building who told him to quickly join them because there was someone on the tower shooting people. He smiled when he said his natural reaction to being told that was not to run over there but to remain in full view of the tower and shield his eyes as if saluting and look up without a worry. He saw puffs of smoke and then was with the group telling other passerbys to take cover. Whitman was such a good shot that he hit some people that were moving on bicycles from over 400yds away. Sad day and a shame that mass shootings began in my hometown. RIP to all his victims.

  • @ElDuDerinO-ql7gm
    @ElDuDerinO-ql7gm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Stumbled across this channel and I am so glad i did. Well done sir. Wishing you and yours the best.

  • @ddoherty5956
    @ddoherty5956 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Odd that he didn't kill his father, but opted for innocent strangers.

    • @1olddirtroad
      @1olddirtroad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Quite possibly his way of making him live with the shame

    • @kennethcurtis1856
      @kennethcurtis1856 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wife and mother weren't innocent strangers.

    • @watermelonlover745
      @watermelonlover745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kennethcurtis1856you sure? I was just thinking about that...can a woman really make that much of a difference in a man's life?

    • @morgandulany4939
      @morgandulany4939 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@watermelonlover745huh?

    • @catchasindog
      @catchasindog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      left dad alive cause not concerned about him. Mom and wife died cause he loved them

  • @bradparker9664
    @bradparker9664 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As former law enforcement, Whitman has always seemed an interesting case study. Excellent job with the video.

  • @RBAILEY57
    @RBAILEY57 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I remember when this happened in 1966. A lot of people learned about Charles Whitman from the movie "Full Metal Jacket".

    • @GuyIncognito-mw8mr
      @GuyIncognito-mw8mr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I knew after they mentioned his name I knew exactly what both of them had in common the USMC,my friends sitting n cy to me in the movie theater never knew who Charles Whitman was,I told them the story later in about him and what happened in Austin Texas …..

    • @degengam2781
      @degengam2781 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I learned about it from the insane clown posse song about him

    • @KittredgeRitter
      @KittredgeRitter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that who inspired that movie? Never knew that.

    • @Kenna198
      @Kenna198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KittredgeRitterhe didn’t inspire the movie, he was cited by the sergeant as an example of a great marine sharpshooter, along with Oswald (JFK’s assassin who was also a former Marine sharpshooter)

  • @renafielding945
    @renafielding945 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I was a student nurse at Brackenridge Hospital on that day. We also had classes at UT and often literally ran the several blocks between them. I will not forget it. I had been up in the tower lots of times.

  • @markknivila8383
    @markknivila8383 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Great video, Colin! Back in 1975, they had made a made for TV movie called "The Deadly Tower", with Kurt Russell playing Charles Whitman. Just something to watch, if people get the chance. Again, great video, Colin! Thank you!

    • @jaydouglas5847
      @jaydouglas5847 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I vividly remember seeing this movie back in 75 as a 12 year old. I was 3 hours from home at my neighbor and best friends camp in Northern NY, up on the eastern edge of Lake Ontario near Canada. We had our own .22's and 4 bricks of ammo(2000 rounds) for the weekend, along of course with paper targets and Zebco 303's and worms. TV reception of 3 channels with rabbit ears needed to tune it was bad to non-existent at times. But on that weekend at night a Canadian station was coming in clear and this movie came on. We were transfixed as we couldn't believe that such a thing was true and what we were seeing as it jolted us. We knew Kurt Russell from his Disney movies and seeing him as Whitman shooting up people was shocking. My friends mother, a school principal told us it was real and she remembered it happening as if it were yesterday. Made me think that as both 12 year old's we were able to take the 15 foot row boat with a 5 HP Evinrude motor, our poles, rifles and radio and lunch bucket and go out in the water and be gone from morning until getting dark with no adults worrying. We shoot at tree's and rocks on shore, catch fish, listen to baseball and have a blast all the while not thinking about the freedom we were enjoying. Would the average parent today let a couple of 12 year old's out all day with guns and a boat ? I guess we learned how to do things and not get scared or dead back in those days.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the info!

    • @theoneandonly6431
      @theoneandonly6431 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I always thought that Kurt Russell was a strange choice to play Whitman. He didn't look anything like him.

    • @backinnam1975
      @backinnam1975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jaydouglas5847 cool story.

    • @emt5330
      @emt5330 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The movie was filmed at the Louisiana Capital Building ( which is similar in appearance) because the University of Texas expressly forbade the producers from filming there.

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Far from forgotten, I remember when this happened, I was just a kid but I can still recall the news talking about it. Later as a police officer, we studied the law enforcement activity surrounding this incident, the errors and the positive aspects of the law enforcement officers at the scene.

    • @KittyGrizGriz
      @KittyGrizGriz ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Too bad these same type of officer’s, weren’t in Uvalde, TX

    • @coryhoggatt7691
      @coryhoggatt7691 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KittyGrizGrizapples and oranges bud.
      You need to study the event before commenting stupidly.

    • @KittyGrizGriz
      @KittyGrizGriz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@coryhoggatt7691 Dimwit reply! 😂

    • @bunk95
      @bunk95 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What humans are forced to say or appear/sound like theyre saying.

    • @christopher480
      @christopher480 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the title is not referring to you personally

  • @majorlagg9321
    @majorlagg9321 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I saw in another documentary, Martinez thought that Crum (who managed an appliance store) was a detective. He realized his error on the observation deck when Crum said that he should deputize Crum.

  • @braylonmaverick2617
    @braylonmaverick2617 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As with all your other content, this venture into a horrific moment of true crime is outstanding. Concise and to the point, your documentary manages to inform and educate others regarding Charles Whitman and his crimes that other 1 or 2 hour documentaries are unable to do. Perhaps one day you can consider examining the Clutter Family tragedy, which was my first venture into true crime many decades ago.
    My only regret in watching your videos is that I did not have you as an instructor in high school or college. I only hope that the younger generation are aware of your work so that they can be enlightened by the information and history that you present.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the kind words. We will consider an episode on the Clutter family murders.

  • @NavyCWO
    @NavyCWO ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That SOB killed my next door neighbor, Patrolman Billy Speed. He completed an Army combat tour in Viet Nam and came home to be killed by a fellow American! As an eighth grader I used to hang out with Billy and his brother. They lived on the East side of San Antonio .

  • @shantanusapru
    @shantanusapru ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A great, in-depth video on this horrible tragedy!

  • @cephasmartin8593
    @cephasmartin8593 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember when that happened. I was in high school at the time and the idea of a mass shooting was unfathomable.

    • @lablaine1981
      @lablaine1981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed💯...in 2024 we have mass shootings every week,in dozens of town/cities...that/this is REALLY whacked🤕🕯️🕯️and if I had 2 brain's I couldn't even imagine, Argh 🆘

    • @austinmartinez2312
      @austinmartinez2312 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now it's on the news more than good news. So depressing of a thought to think no one knew what kind of evil this really is

    • @davidreed6264
      @davidreed6264 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No drugs involved but a Brain Tumor what I was told

  • @terrykrall
    @terrykrall ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This and Mark Felton are THE BEST CHANNELS here on YT!!!

  • @bottleneck69
    @bottleneck69 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for taking the time to tell this story, and for leaving politics out of it. I enjoyed it very much.

  • @johnnoone4323
    @johnnoone4323 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Our family was living in San Antonio when this happened and we watched everything unfold on live TV. I was 13 years old and remember being very scared. I will never forget the day. Officer Martinez was my hero - he and the others showed incredible bravery. Also, my father who worked at the Southwest Texas State University in San Marcos, knew the psychiatrist (Dr. Heatley) who treated Whitman before this event happened.

    • @RAID3R63
      @RAID3R63 ปีที่แล้ว

      Officer McCoy

  • @hakangustavsson3538
    @hakangustavsson3538 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I am a Swede. I remember very well when this happened. The sheer horror of it all really made an impact.

    • @grigger7000
      @grigger7000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow really? How did you hear of it first? What were your first thoughts?

  • @crazy8sdrums
    @crazy8sdrums ปีที่แล้ว +25

    By far the most detail-rich recounting of this story to be produced. Fantastic work, Forgotten History! What a strange and unfortunate sequence of events in this.

  • @charleywalker2982
    @charleywalker2982 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.

  • @mikewright8033
    @mikewright8033 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    As usual, whenever a story like this happens, there's just not enough of a full, lay down, as he DID try to reach out for help in the Marine Corps. As Marines do NOT have their own doctors, those are provided by the U.S. Navy, let it be known that this man complained of headaches constantly, and that the shape of his head had begun to change. Upon autopsy, there was a tumor found pressing on his head. This story is one for the lack of medical response. OR, everyone can communist themselves, and blame the guns

    • @anng.4542
      @anng.4542 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thank you very much for this clarification. Today he might very well have been given a brain scan and the tumor found early on. It would be helpful if the brain studies and position of the tumor could be reevaluated. Advances in neurology since that time might shed light on how this brain abnormality factored into his patterns of thought and behavior.

    • @davidthomspson9771
      @davidthomspson9771 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought he was 'evaluated ' by the Corps for pulling a 45 on a fellow Marine and threatening to kill him?

    • @rtwhitson3
      @rtwhitson3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Communist themselves"...??? What the fuck does that even mean? What the fuck does communism, or any economic system, have to do with mental health, mass murder, or whatever this might concern. Did you not listen to the many aspects of what may have POSSIBLY set Whitman off? Crawl back into your MAGA hole you fucking moron.

    • @tangobravo8332
      @tangobravo8332 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Um, what?

    • @deantait8326
      @deantait8326 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely not the gun but there are Drs available outside of the Navy… I don’t believe it’s fair to blame the military.
      Maybe his father was a cause and like father, like son ?

  • @markadams7597
    @markadams7597 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have childhood memories of those days of the shooting and thereafter. In Dallas, my folks and I heard of the shootings over the radio. In the days the followed may of the school campuses around Texas brought in police to patrol against any copycats. It was an uncertain and frightening time for a little boy in far off Big D. Great video, thanks for the indepth research.

  • @joycemiller-bean1814
    @joycemiller-bean1814 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really informative telling of this horrific tragedy. I was a youngster when the shootings occurred, but I vividly remember my parents and all the other adults talking about it for days. The background information that you provided about Whitman was excellent as were the additional facts I learned that I had not known ( e.g. the poor university employee lady and the visiting family members Whitman also killed on his way up the tower).

  • @pauldames381
    @pauldames381 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i do love history and always enjoy your presentations...thank you

  • @stischer47
    @stischer47 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My best friend and I were on the way from San Antonio to his new home in Wichita Falls when we stopped off at UT to visit his girlfriend at the Scottish Rite Dorm. We parked at the foot of the Tower plaza on the Inner Circle Drive (you could at the time) and walked to the SRD, crossing the plaza and going up Whitis Ave. We visited for a while and, as I was unsure how long it would take us to get to Wichita Falls, I kept saying we had to leave. They finally said their goodbyes, we walked back the way we came, got into his VW and headed to the Interregional (as IH35 was called then). As we turned onto the highway from 19th (now MLK), an announcement came on that there was a shooting at the UT campus. As we drove and more details came available, we realized we were walking across the plaza as Whitman was riding up the Tower elevator. If we had been five minutes later, we would have been shot.

  • @markknife1
    @markknife1 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I may feel this is an important point to call upon but. . .
    Was it only police offering return/cover fire?
    I also read that civilians with personal weapons also provided fire. That forced the shooter to duck

    • @dougearnest7590
      @dougearnest7590 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's Texas - so yeah, civilians with rifles shot back.
      Though I could not find anything regarding Austin PD policy at the time, it is likely that "patrol officers" were not allowed to carry rifles in their vehicles although others (supervisors, detectives, etc) may have been permitted. That is still the case in many police departments today.

    • @markknife1
      @markknife1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dougearnest7590 , @SuperCulverin
      If that's the case, This qualifies as a 'defense of others' in the matter of self defense shooting.
      Which somehow is "very conveniently left out" whenever they make a documentary of the event.

    • @col.cottonhill6655
      @col.cottonhill6655 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@dougearnest7590back then Texas had more restricted gun laws then California! Things took a turn for the worst. And it's sad to think Texas will be blue eventually because of open borders.

    • @1olddirtroad
      @1olddirtroad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is footage here on TH-cam that shows the local news to broadcast the warning to the public to stay away from the campus.
      It's eery watching Whitman shooting from different openings and watching the clock in the tower as the shooting progressed.
      Civilians in the area arrived and assisted the Police in pinning him down from having free reign in firing.

  • @131dyana
    @131dyana ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We could not forget. Our Grand Daughter was temporarily living there and working there. We did a lot of praying to have him stopped. Thank God 2 brave men went and stopped him.

  • @vickyschnorbus4166
    @vickyschnorbus4166 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I will never forget this. I had a friend working in the Tower. I later worked briefly with some of the officers who killed Whitman. They were great people.

  • @francisebbecke2727
    @francisebbecke2727 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I was living in Austin, TX in the Spring of 1966 and joined the Boy Scouts at age 11. I met Charles Whitman briefly. What is scary about Whitman was that he seemed so normal.

    • @philmccracken1392
      @philmccracken1392 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow, you and Walt have that in common!

  • @nancywhitehead219
    @nancywhitehead219 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i was a 12 year and remember it being on the news. i have learned more through your channel and appreciate it. No body learns that it's not the guns but the person using the gun 😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @rodneyscott7108
    @rodneyscott7108 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was twelve years old and was in Austin visiting my grandparents that day. My grandmother and I were in a tiny branch library in Twin Oaks shopping center when the librarians heard the news on the radio.
    My grandmother was very concerned because my two teenage aunts were downtown at the time and she didn’t know if they were safe.
    They were both ok, and in fact had not been anywhere near the shooting, but even from a distance of so long ago, I still remember the fear and sense of panic that was everywhere in Austin that day.

  • @legitbeans9078
    @legitbeans9078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a very very well made video. Nice narration and pace. Nice 👌

    • @legitbeans9078
      @legitbeans9078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As an aside, the civilian with the gun who was deputised was so nervous he let off a round which distracted Whitman and the officer got behind him and shot him dead. Great video. Subbed!

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you very much!

  • @MlTCH
    @MlTCH ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent videos, I have subscribed to your channel. Thank you very much.

  • @tylerfoss3346
    @tylerfoss3346 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    I first heard about this on television on the day it happened. I remember the newspaper reports including the autopsy results revealing the tumor. This video provides me with the contents of the two suicide notes and the information about the very abusive, drunk father. Thank you for this.
    I was only a boy at the time this happened.
    There was too much death growing up in the 1960s. It was very sad at times.
    God help us all.

    • @jackiedunn9404
      @jackiedunn9404 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yes there was. We saw the Vietnam war every night on the news and all the race riots everywhere

    • @RosaHernandez-vy4dm
      @RosaHernandez-vy4dm ปีที่แล้ว +7

      2023 🍻

    • @matthewpamatian4853
      @matthewpamatian4853 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How about the amount of death in the 20th century. Access to information can be a bitch..

    • @CountIblis-jb4uh
      @CountIblis-jb4uh ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And it's better now ????
      I'd go back to the 70s or 80s in a second

    • @DaveMustang74
      @DaveMustang74 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@CountIblis-jb4uh I turned 6 in 80. Sounds good to me. I'm am old soul in a new word to rip of a few people, and I'm not even that old. 😔

  • @RamadiTaxiDriver60M
    @RamadiTaxiDriver60M ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love the Chanel and the great content. I did not know about his childhood. I’m glad you brought up the headaches and you are one of the few authors to talk about the tumor and it’s likely affect on this day and the years leading up to it. I would encourage you to reword the name of this episode to inform viewers of the potential cause. S/F

  • @garyfaught3769
    @garyfaught3769 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He and his wife lived on a short little street in South Austin called Jewell Street, just a block or so from Becker Elementary School. Ironnically, my parents lived on that street for several months in 1959, when I started 2nd grade. My mother's name was Jewell.

  • @nunyabidness1888
    @nunyabidness1888 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was a kid raised in Austin when this occurred, and could see the U.T. tower from my back yard. My grandpa worked down at the campus so my family was very worried when this occurred. Everyone was so shocked and terrified because nothing like this had ever happened before. Austin was a relatively small city then too, peaceful, so the impact was that much greater.

  • @rbl4641
    @rbl4641 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very disturbing, but very well done...thanks for the post

  • @anthonydepontes2295
    @anthonydepontes2295 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliantly put together thanks for the upload 😉 and i love your channel 🔥 much love from South Africa 💯

  • @yourname-mz1jo
    @yourname-mz1jo ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Collin I love the content of the videos you and Mike make.
    I've watched many videos and read many different types of literature on "this story", so seeing the description in the notification that popped up about this new video on your channel, I almost did not watch it, simply because of obvious reasons stated above, but I quickly remembered how detailed You and Mr.Dupree are, referring to the content of the videos y'all make, and I then decided that I would watch it, and I guaranteed myself (kind of like betting with oneself), that I would learn something new, which is the only type of media/videos that I will spend my life's priceless time watching, and listening to.
    And yet again I have not been dissatisfied.
    Both of you gentlemen are great in the delivery and in the details of the true and accurate stories y'all make.
    Thank you,
    Great video 👍

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you kindly. We appreciate the support

    • @sooke54
      @sooke54 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The stock footage of an old biplane made me laugh though. It happened in 1966, not 1926.

  • @loreng7433
    @loreng7433 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I haven't researched this topic in many years. I forgot how genuinely messed up this situation was. This monster shouldn't be forgotten, and the modern media severely underplays this incident on the rare occasions that it's discussed. Thank you for the enlightening refresher

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for watching

    • @2serveand2protect
      @2serveand2protect ปีที่แล้ว

      Media do not talk about this MASSACRE in the US?? ...HUH!... 🤔 ...WEIRD!... I beg your pardon - I'm not American but Polish (...with SOME "DNA-strands" from the sunny Italian peninsula apparently! 🙂 ...) - but I distinctly remember WHITMAN being mentioned in the "Full Metal Jacket" movie & a couple of other (famous) movies, too. This case strikes me for one (probably MAIN) reason only! -i.e: the behavioural pattern does indicate someone who is absolutely - (ALMOST) 100% and in an almost "clichè"-way - a typical "American" of the late 50's/early 60's - YOUNG, INTELLIGENT, INTEGRATED WELL with (...SEEMINGLY!...) - no "over the top problems" or signs of any schizopathology (unlike in so many other cases). PS. NOT TO MENTION! Whitman chose a VERY SPECIFIC "POINT" TO START HIS KILLING-SPREE, which was also meant from the get go to be HIS DEATH! He KNEW BEFOREHAND he would have never gotten out alive of that ...?..."observation"/"panoramic view" tower (...or whatever it was!...) - AND NONE-THE-LESS ! - he prepared for a WAY prolongued "siege". It surprised me that he actually did NOT kill even MORE people! - his proficiency in weapon-use is BEYOND ANY DOUBT! The fact that he shot a man from 500 yards with an M1 Carbine - back then, when there were almost only "iron sights" to such weapon a man that seemingly was too far away to even notice something was going on, or the policeman shot through a small opening of his cover - straight to his heart - is a testament to his SKILLS! (I'm sorry to say it!) ....but what's truly bugging me (BEYOND the fact that a perfectly "well adjusted citizen" one day decides to STAB HIS CLOSEST RELATIVES and only then go on carrying out his plan in the most (for lack of a better term!) "SPECTACULAR" way, where "SPECTACULAR" DOES NOT MEAN "BEUTIFUL/ELEGANT/SKILLFUL" - but sure as hell RUTHLESS and MILITARY-EFFICIENT! ...AT THE SAME TIME! - he purposefully chose a spot, where he KNEW he would die! People do not simply "EXPLODE" that way, and CREATE THE MOST MAYHEM POSSIBLE, while at the same time "de facto" commiting suicide!
      ...HENCE THE CHOICE OF THAT "TOWER" THAT SEEM TO STAND OUT IN THIS "STORY"! ... WHY that particular "spot"?? ...it gave him MANY ADVANTAGES...but it also gave him NO WAY OUT! ... Apparently he had a long-standing fascination with that "TOWER"! ...WHY???

    • @gotch09
      @gotch09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. Like Manson, he has reach mythic proportions. Nobody remembers the victims or the kids who ran out trying to help victims under fire.

  • @frankholt4325
    @frankholt4325 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I remember hearing about this when I was in Austin Tx visiting my great aunt on her birthday August 1st,1966. It was her 66th birthday. It was a tragic day and the beginning of the era of the epidemic of mass shootings that plague America.

  • @DocShred-u4d
    @DocShred-u4d ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I grew up in Austin. Tragic day, long ago. Marines can shoot...too bad this guy went rogue. As always, you filled in a whole bunch of voids in the story. Outstanding.

  • @dougearnest7590
    @dougearnest7590 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I absolutely LOVE the videos you're producing - perhaps this one most of all as it does have some special meaning to me. No, I wasn't there and don't know anyone who was, but as a former peace officer this is something I had a better-than-average chance of having to deal with at some point.
    Oddly enough a lot of police chiefs (and other law enforcement agency administrators) are opposed to providing or allowing officers to carry rifles in their vehicles while on patrol as they see only the potential for liability for the department (longer range, more powerful, etc) and not the department's responsibility to stop the bad guy. (There are courses to certify officers in the use of the rifle.) That's the mentality it takes to get to the top. That, and "it can't happen here".
    After retiring from the Navy I became a police officer - ending up in a small Texas town where there was that one guy (I suppose every small town has one) who was nutty as a fruitcake and openly talked of someday climbing up onto the grain elevator and shooting people. Of course nothing could be done - and I swear that if the department tried to do anything about it that half the town would have criticized us for picking on him. "He's just crazy, he doesn't mean it." Of course you can imagine the same people's reaction had he actually done it.
    As there was often only one officer on duty and backup from the Sheriff's Department was practically non-existent (not enough registered voters in town for the sheriff to give a damn) - I spent many boring nights with a rangefinder recording distances from various places of cover to the grain elevator and other select tall buildings in town to keep in a special notebook. Anyway, great video - thanks for the history lesson, and thanks for the memories.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you and thanks for your service in the Navy and PD.

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's touching that you shared such a personal detail, the notebook and all. Hope you are keeping yourself and your loved ones healthy and as safe as can be expected, living in the usa.

  • @robertalbertson889
    @robertalbertson889 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Thank you Sir for your patriotic service to our County, and Thank you for producing this video! I'm 63 years old, so I was 5 or 6 years old when this occurred.
    I didn't learn of the horrific event until well afterwards! I learned a great deal about this guy and the horrific things he did that day.
    A true American tragedy and unfortunately, things have only become so much worse in regards to mass shootings!
    God bless always 🙏

    • @christopher480
      @christopher480 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you should probably look up the word patriot in the dictionary.....how is it that telling an almost 60 yr old story patriotic?

  • @howardrussell3919
    @howardrussell3919 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember this story as a little kid living in West Philly. Somewhere around the same time a guy named Richard Speck killed 8 nursing students in Chicago. I thought all of this was insane, even as a youngster. Sadly, it's now the norm.

    • @charlesking5328
      @charlesking5328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both tragic events . I was 12 when they happened. Remember both vividly. My younger sister's birthday was August 1

    • @darrellmayberry7784
      @darrellmayberry7784 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Speck killed the eight nursing students on July14 1966 and this incident happened a little over two weeks later and this events started the modern mass killings which sadly in 2024 happen too often and not just in the U.S either.

  • @ryansnapfood3142
    @ryansnapfood3142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should more crime history videos. Your production quality greatly surpasses anyone else on here. No jokes, no false information, no AI garbage, no personal opinions. Amazing lol.

  • @imbornthiswaybaby12
    @imbornthiswaybaby12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for providing sources in the description!

  • @tooshay4me
    @tooshay4me ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for such a detailed documentary. Such a such sad and tragic incident and am glad that he was stopped as quickly as he was. The aftermath was even more tragic as families and friends had to deal with such loss.

  • @harridan.
    @harridan. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Read Rita Starpattern's story. She ran out and laid down next to a bleeding young woman whose fiance and unborn child were killed by Whitman. She stayed there, on the scalding hot pavement until Whitman was killed by police and ambulance crews began picking up the wounded, then she quietly walked away. She later brought a beautiful painting to the young survivor in the hospital. She was a true American Hero. (her name wasn't Starpattern at the time, however it's all i can remember.)

  • @tiredlawdog
    @tiredlawdog ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How well I remember that day. I was 21 years old and had been a San Antonio Police officer for a little over a year.
    I was on the way to Corpus Christi with my mother and a friend. At the time there was not a lot of details known on
    the radio.
    Much later in life I had the privilege of meeting Texas Ranger Ramiro Martinez. We talked for some time. Of course
    the tower came up and I was able to hear the story directly from him.
    In times here in San Antonio, I have met three different people that were survivors of the shooting.
    Kind of strange how you are able to remember your location on these historical events.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome. Thanks for your service

    • @gotch09
      @gotch09 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually it was Officer McCoy who fired the kill shot even though Martinez got credit for the longest time.

  • @richardlincoln8438
    @richardlincoln8438 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank You Colin. I am just commenting to feed the algorithm. Best Wishes.

  • @VanessaKittredge
    @VanessaKittredge ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Being subjected to repeated violence all through one’s developmental years, witnessing mother endure violence repeatedly, not being protected by mom or other relatives, seeing his brothers beaten and terrorized… this boy needed help long before he did this. I think the violence against his own wife caused him to unravel. His entire childhood, fear, anger, rage, shame, he was sick. Too bad he didn’t get his dad. Sad for all those innocent t people. The survivors must have had ptsd the rest of their lives. I wonder how his brothers fared in their adulthood.

    • @aladrasullivan9018
      @aladrasullivan9018 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely agree luv,poor guy suffered a lot of mental and physical abuse,too bad he never got the help he needed,and his life ended tragically

    • @KittyGrizGriz
      @KittyGrizGriz ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well said & totally agree as violence begets violence, bastard father

    • @michaelpelzek8882
      @michaelpelzek8882 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@KittyGrizGrizYeah too bad he was too much of a coward to actually do anything to his father. And stab the two women that love you?!

  • @Hoplophile1
    @Hoplophile1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember this day all too well. My dad was on the UT campus that day taking classes, working on his PhD. We lived in Bryan at the time (about 100 miles from Austin), it was my birthday and were waiting to have birthday cake and open presents until he got home from classes that afternoon. We then saw all this unfold on live TV and had no way of knowing if my dad was among the casualties, and my mom and brother and I were terrified and crying. As it turned out, when the gunfire started, he took cover under his car which was parked on campus not far from the tower until Whitman was exterminated. When he finally got home that evening (much to our relief) and told us what had happened, we were horrified. I will never forget it. Thank you for your very thorough treatment of this terrible day.

    • @bunk95
      @bunk95 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know phds are fictional right? Need a prop to assist in an act? Something to make it appear like acting with prop (to some)?

  • @Figwumberton
    @Figwumberton ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this since I haven't seen any comments about it, but along with the bravery of helping injured people, several civilians also helped the police maintain suppressing fire with their own firearms.

    • @austinartist0608
      @austinartist0608 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True. They ran home and grabbed their deer rifles and went back and were shooting side by side with APD officers. Also true that many of them had stopped along the way and picked up a 6 pack of beer and were side by side with the cops drinking cold suds shooting their rifles. People asked me why didn't they try shooting him from the upper deck of Southbound IH 35 and I said because it wasn't built till 1973. The upper/lower decks are due to be torn down soon.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for watching.

    • @Figwumberton
      @Figwumberton ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL And thank you for making such amazing content!

    • @Iceflame38
      @Iceflame38 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Joe Biden has his way, civilians won't be able to help the next time this happens because they won't be able to own firearms, only the criminals will have guns under Democrat rule.

    • @anthonycaruso8443
      @anthonycaruso8443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AKA,Hgh powered rifles

  • @richardblayneamerican8149
    @richardblayneamerican8149 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. I recently watched a 1968 movie on TCM called, 'Targets', loosely based on the events of 1966. It's one of Boris Karloff's last films. Like Whitman, the shooter in that film is a clean-cut, unassuming individual who one day snaps, killing his family, then targeting people at a drive-in theater where Karloff is making a public appearance. Very scary to see how an 'average guy' can turn into a homicidal maniac.

  • @deathwrenchcustom
    @deathwrenchcustom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "All of his victims were between the ages of 17 and 64." Interesting, when the preceding sentence explained how his first victim was 8 months pregnant and the baby was killed.

  • @zoperxplex
    @zoperxplex ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not really the first mass shooter in U. S. history, that is if the definition of mass shooter is not limited to snipers. The honor of first mass shooter belongs to Howard Unruh who killed 13 people in Camden New Jersey in 1949.

  • @crispybatman480
    @crispybatman480 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People who blindly support gun control have so little an understanding about guns, that they don't understand that anything that spits lead is deadly. Nowadays the rifle he used would be considered more of a hunting rifle by most people.

    • @Poppy999
      @Poppy999 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep 100% true. I've used a ruger mini 14 to hunt coyotes.

  • @mikenixon2401
    @mikenixon2401 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember this. After the Kennedy killing in 1963 -- still too fresh in many minds -- and I remember many folks wondering what had become of our otherwise friendly state, and how they hated imagining what others must be thinking of Texas.

  • @dropway9108
    @dropway9108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of the victims died 35 years later from complications of the gun shot wound he received that day. Makes you wonder about all those "survivors" of mass shootings who have to live with their physical wounds for the rest of their life. Many faces years and years of grueling physical rehabilitation. We remember those who died but often forget about those who were wounded and have to somehow try to carry on.

  • @PaulaDautremont
    @PaulaDautremont 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A coworker of mine was there when it happened. She was walking with a girlfriend and remembered that she had forgotten something and went to retrieve it, leaving her friend to go on without her. Her friend became one of his victims that day.

  • @diceportz7107
    @diceportz7107 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I remember this event. I remember that colleges around the area I lived in all shut down access to any tower of any sort on campus. I remember that it also contributed to the distrust many had about military personnel, that you never knew when one of them "changed by the war" would go crazy and start killing people. People had given my oldest brother the side eye when he was home on leave just a few years before this. I can only imagine what it would have been like after this.

    • @andrewcrenshaw2904
      @andrewcrenshaw2904 ปีที่แล้ว

      And absolutely NOTHING has changed in America since. More WAR, More GUNS, More SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, MORE (A LOT) MORE MONEY for the American government!!!! Let's keep that War Machine rolling!

  • @gsjackson34
    @gsjackson34 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Coming less than a month after the Richard Speck murders, which were even more haunting, this episode made the best summer of my life turn very unsettling.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can imagine

    • @lindaolivas7699
      @lindaolivas7699 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a terrible story. innocent people taken away. he settled with strangers. instead of his Dad.

    • @kbombach
      @kbombach หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was 13 and I spent that summer terrified. I lived in Austin but was in Indiana when it happened, visiting my dad. A young woman from my church was killed by Whitman. When I started at the University of Texas five years later, I was surprised that no one had filled in the bullet holes on the Drag sidewalk or the outside walls of the stores. Those bullet holes were a constant reminder.

  • @dougkenny6548
    @dougkenny6548 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    In 1966 Whitman was an anomaly, now there are dozens. If you can be a concealed carrier and pay attention to whats going on around you. If you want to learn more about this event read "A Sniper In The Tower" by Gary Lavergne. The movie with Kurt Russell has a fictional ending. It portrays Whitman being shot by officer Ramiro Martinez. Whitman was killed by officer Houston McCoy whom the producers despicably removed from the ending.

    • @fenwayify
      @fenwayify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To me, Whitman sounds more like a damaged soul, wounded by his abusive father and filled with rage. His story also reflects inadequate mental health care; ill prepared and inexperienced at addressing such violent/extreme behavior. Yet it is the embrace of and ready supply of guns, that enables such mutant carnage. Remove guns from the equation and you won't stop the anger or hatred, but you will at least make it harder to kill...Of course, the pro gun folks needn't worry about the government taking away their guns, it's way too late. 400 million guns are already distributed; even if they stopped selling 'em, we got plenty to last for centuries, just like our stockpile of nuclear weapons...Oh, and interestingly, of the 40,000 annual gun deaths, more than half are suicides (the same goal of our Charley-boy here)...

    • @Iamhermajesty9
      @Iamhermajesty9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whitman seems a lot different than the mass shooters of today who are basically social rejects or conspiracy theory nut job racists. Whitman had good relationships with the people in his life, he had a wife , a job, clean cut and attractive guy . And not a malignant narcissist or bipolar or Asperger’s or whatever other mental illnesses are ascribed to the shooters nowadays .

    • @hibco3000
      @hibco3000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whats the name of the movie.

    • @dougkenny6548
      @dougkenny6548 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hibco3000 The Deadly Tower. It was a 1975 made for TV movie.

    • @hibco3000
      @hibco3000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dougkenny6548 thank you

  • @bystanderbutch3509
    @bystanderbutch3509 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a good channel with good content. Keep up the good work.

  • @williamthethespian
    @williamthethespian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Simply incredible; the planning, the preparation, the execution. One can almost hear, within Whitman's mind, the screaming torment of his life leading up to the massacre. Excellent documentary

  • @debbiebalnaves4842
    @debbiebalnaves4842 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was 9 years old at that time
    When the 6 o'clock news came on , us kids were sent out of the room ( you only had 1 TV back then) because the adults had already heard about it and we were not aloud to watch . And that's the way things were done back then .

    • @dpd604
      @dpd604 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and in terms of mental health checks and gun laws nothing has changed

  • @rebeccapaul6455
    @rebeccapaul6455 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hardly forgotten. I'm 65. I remember the day very well. Lived in Austin at the time. Neal was active on local news for decades afterwards.

    • @christopher480
      @christopher480 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the title does not refer to you......its referring to everyone else.

  • @bobbates7421
    @bobbates7421 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I grew up about eight blocks south of Charles Whitman in Lake Worth, Florida. I just turned 13 years old when this happened. Most of what has been said is true, but I agree that he left out the fact that it was people with their own rifles that were hunters that lay down suppress of fire for a long time before the police ever arrived. As far as Lake Worth is concerned, it would never be the same. Ultimately, I knew quite well. His younger brother, Johnny Whitman, who died a premature death by being shot at Big Daddy’s bar in Lake Worth by an another individual that I knew, Charles Burgess of Lake Worth. Lake Worth Florida was a rough town. The family abuse that was mentioned is absolutely true.

    • @DM-sp3zs
      @DM-sp3zs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm also a local and his dad was a tyrant. He's buried in West Palm, people leave trinkets on his headstone all the time. I think the cemetery staff is letting grass grow over it to stop this. He's buried next to him mom whom was his first murder victim.

    • @jamesfarrell8339
      @jamesfarrell8339 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow
      It's like his whole family was cursed
      I didn't know that
      Thanks for posting

    • @markprange2430
      @markprange2430 ปีที่แล้ว

      supressive fire

  • @sharrielee911
    @sharrielee911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember reading about this some years ago 😢so tragically sad😢thx for sharing....

  • @declanoleary1
    @declanoleary1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great presentation, well researched, detailed and insightful.

  • @MaryMDoyle
    @MaryMDoyle ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We also have to ask why was Whitman given a funeral with full military honors and why were the survivors and anyone who brought up the subject told it had been "an accident" for decades which prevented anyone from talking about it. As one doctor pointed out (in another documentary) if Whitman had had a tumor in that area of the brain he would have been dead long before that day, he also said when he arrived to oversee the autopsy it had already been carried out by a doctor he didn't know and that the body had been released to his family. Whitman's first target from his sniper position within the tower was a baby boy still in his Mother's womb, she was eight months pregnant, she spent the longest time in hospital recovering from her physical injuries and when she was released from hospital she was dumbfounded as to why she couldn't talk about what had happened, disillusioned with this whole dynamic she left Texas and spent decades in other parts of the States until a journalist investigating the whole incident sought her out because he had found out where her baby was buried, something she didn't know. In essence this was the first school shooting and yet we do have to ask why it has been swept under the rug. Thank you for covering it.

  • @chasm351
    @chasm351 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I sold his brother Pat and his wife a house full of carpet for their Boynton Beach home in the mid 70's. They owned a plumbing firm and were nice, normal folks. A pleasure to do business with.

    • @jeffclark7888
      @jeffclark7888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting.

    • @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
      @FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow

    • @col.cottonhill6655
      @col.cottonhill6655 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did they tell you that they were related? Who brought that up?! If my brother did that I'd probably pretend I never knew him.

    • @chasm351
      @chasm351 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@col.cottonhill6655 When I measured the house I saw Charlies full dress USMC picture in the hall. In the course of the deal we did little chit chat nd I think they appreciated that I never brought it up.

  • @TheLaurkenGroup
    @TheLaurkenGroup ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember watching this as a seven year old. Someone at either Austin’s public TV station which might have been on campus (or perhaps someone from what was once known as the school of RTF (TV/Radio/film) managed the schlep out one of those huge old school studio cameras, train it on the tower & left it running while sending it a satellite for a live feed.
    I’d always heard that the biggest tumor in Whitman’s life was his overbearing, hooch guzzling father. He was physically & mentally abusive to his wife & kids. I think that summer in Austin, Charlie W. just reached a sad, tragic point. He snapped. While he HAD to have known he’d be killed, he did have at least a days worth of provisions.
    Also, the modern SWAT team was designed & implemented as a tactical division of the police force in direct response to Whitman’s onslaught. At the time, Austin cops were only issued service revolvers which in 1966, didn’t have the reach or the accuracy. So (this being Texas) hunters in the live viewing audience grabbed deer rifles with scopes answered the SOS call and headed to campus. Police needed their help. Hell, in ‘66, Texas didn’t even campus police!
    SIDE NOTE: I attended Texas after HS. Depending on which orientation class you were assigned when starting as a Freshman, part of the campus tour included bullet holes. Most have been filled in, but a few never have been & although this was a tragedy, UT won’t repair. As the place of the first American public mass shooting, those holes must remain. I seem to remember there being a few holes in wall external walls Batts Hall (or Parlin Hall-it’s between 47 years since my orientation class). There were bullet marks on & around a confederate statue and many you couldn’t see (on the external walls of lower floors of the tower. Back in the day, Binoculars would help you see the holes all over the facade. The tower looked like it had acne scars-even more proof the Austin cops were sadly outgunned.

  • @russbeard3665
    @russbeard3665 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good recap of things I had missed. This was an incredibly influential point in American history, society and gun culture.

  • @johnliebenow4165
    @johnliebenow4165 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember my friend, Roland Cap Ehlke, telling me about how he was wounded in this terrible moment.

  • @rayrostad639
    @rayrostad639 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Harry Chapin's song "SNIPER" was written about this event. It's a powerful, gut-wrenching, epic song. There are some inaccuracies in the song because it was written early after the event,
    and some of the details were released later, but it's still very worth a listen.

    • @genefogarty5395
      @genefogarty5395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like M.O.D.'s Ode to Harry, great song!!

    • @billkalivas9750
      @billkalivas9750 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I saw Harry in concert maybe 1973 at University of Cincinnati. His live performance of Sniper. I remember a lively and emotional performance.

  • @rustusandroid
    @rustusandroid ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Notice how he killed his mother, wife, and strangers all because of his hatred for his father, but somehow left his father alive. This is what we call a coward.

    • @heathernikki5734
      @heathernikki5734 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly what I thought

    • @eduarditogonzales4485
      @eduarditogonzales4485 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I was stunned about killing wife,mother and random people but letting alone exactly the most hated person.😊

    • @col.cottonhill6655
      @col.cottonhill6655 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Afraid of his dad!

    • @clawhammer704
      @clawhammer704 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      In the video he stated he killed his mother, and wife to not put them through the horrible acts he was fixing to do. He probably spared his dad so he would have to live everyday thinking abt what his son did. That’s twisted thinking.

    • @43nduscott
      @43nduscott ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah fucking crazy

  • @DanTheMailman330
    @DanTheMailman330 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In an alternate world, he would have killed his horrible father while defending himself or his mother and lived happily ever after. Insanity...

  • @philbrown9764
    @philbrown9764 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was going on 17 when this happened and it was a few days before my dad passed. So yeah, I remember this very well.

  • @RKHarm24
    @RKHarm24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a family we moved to Dallas July 31st, 1966. We moved from Knoxville, TN, where our friends and relatives kept saying, Dallas Killed Kennedy. Then, our first day in Dallas was this news.

  • @montecrow1088
    @montecrow1088 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This happened when I was six years old. My dad was an independent photographer and he was down there when it happened taking pictures of the scene. Whitman actually took a potshot at my father, fortunately it was high.