Australia's Defence Policy Explained | Utopia
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And for those of us in the usa?? Netflix called it dreamland and says it is unavailable
Classic. 😅😂🤣
Hmm, it's not as if some other country, like one in Eastern Europe, is currently being invaded by it's largest trading partner.
There’s a reason Netflix doesn’t want Americans to watch it…
@@causeneffect8563Nothing to do with that, all films and TV shows on Netflix are location restricted. It costs Netflix extra money to show things worldwide.
"Shall we use the nod system?"😂
Funny as. Where can i watch ?
Yeah... reality is, China would've conquered Australia if it had been allowed to.
It's a brotherhood of sorts.
Peace through power!
Ah politics where the left hand doesn't know what the right hands doing
$30 billion is a lot of boomerangs.
mate, they're pretty nice boomerangs.
About 150,000,000 good quality boomerangs
Hey! Not just boomerangs, they also export kangaroo steaks
Some of that goes towards training Kangaroos to swim as well 🦘 🪃
@@drex5160 and wombat sappers
I've just discovered this show on YT shorts but it's giving me "Australian Yes (Prime) Minister" vibes 😂
Utopia and The Hollow Men 👌
Right!!? 🤣
That is the nature of bureaucracy.
Yes minister had better timing
It's more like Twenty Twelve or W1A in the way it is shot and delivered but yeah it's about the inner workings of bureaucracies so similar to Yes, Minister or The Thick of It. Very different vibes to the latter 2 though. But I'd recommend them all!
I love the nod system, that cracked me up. “I’ll just name one and you nod.”
China?
Jesus loves ya!
"The Americans are doing a trillion... That's a thousand billion... We're saving a lot of money"
Lmfao facts
The Aussies are also MUCH closer. If they had an ocean between them and China that is so large, that from a certain point of view in space, the Earth looks like a water world that does not have dry land. I'm sure they'd have to spend a trillion too!
luckys🤬
Absolutely, we’re very lucky indeed. United States is currently 34 trillion in debt and Australia is worth 18 trillion.
Protecting trade ❌️
Power projection ✅️
"I think someone should diversify their trade partners."
"Nod when this sounds good"
Do you know where Australia is? 😂😂😂😂
@@Cnupoc Jeah, it's convenient but i'm a German and we had a similar problem with russian Gas.
@@Harrington2323 and yet you still buy it through Turkey, Hungary and shady companies in Eastern Europe.
There’s hella countries in Asia besides China. Plenty of options to diversify with.
@@Harrington2323 more like you destroyed your access to cheap gas because america wanted too.
even tho is this hilarious:
International relations is defined by: Friends today, possible enemies tomorrow
So in the eventuality that they become your enemies, you want to protect the trade routes you have with… your enemies?
if its beneficial then yes.
@@TsunamiNR No with allies you reach through the very same trade routes.
Vice-versa, for that matter.
@@TsunamiNR
They also trade with
Taiwan
Indonesia
The Philippines
It's everyone and if China has a stronger hold of Asia they have more leverage, more leverage means less favorable trades
Protecting yourself from your biggest trade partner, becoming your *only* trade partner, is just common sense.
If you are a robot and object- yes- but not if you are people
@@breathoffreshair7795…what
Yeah this show is missing the point that the robber kingdom of China would probably steal the nails out of their floorboards if they could get away with it, let alone all other trade they have 😂😂😂
@@sanguine2552so would the United States of America, Russia and every other country in the top 5, if they could.
So maybe get more trading partners?
Even the Chinese protect themselves from themselves. I worked for an electronics firm with factories in China who made sure all their important servers were located in Hong Kong simply so they'd be slightly out of the grasp of the party.
Correction: the Chinese people need to protect themselves from the CCP. Yes, from other Chinese people too, but to a lesser, more normal degree. What's not normal there is their government.
Damn I think it didn't work
That worked out well for them now, I'll bet.
Oh i´m sorry buddy child labor is horrible
owned
I have to watch more Australian comedy 😂, this is hilarious.🤣
Exceptional 😅
Its funny cos it is true. It is also scarey because it is true
I don't know this show, but I was a fan of Kath & Kim.
Famous for lacronic wit. Not sure what lacronic actually means but it seems that it's something like that.
Try Mr Inbetween
Well, looking at the trading going on before WWII in Europe and you get a picture of why your trading partner might not be your friend.
Even using a more modern example, Ukraine's economy was previously heavily dependent on trade with Russia.
Obviously but he isn’t saying China is our friend, he is saying why are we protecting our trade with them from them.
I think the answer would be “protecting your capabilities for war and / or to change trade partners” but that wouldn’t be a funny joke I guess 😅
Germans were taken to R&D by the British military and shown the newest British tanks before the war. Yeah maybe the US keeping everything secret these days makes more sense.
you never know when they might decide that one of your northern islands suddenly lies within their "territorial waters".
When a country is YOUR major trading partner but not the other way around, you might want to watch your back...
@@tukankibar4917 It does make sense though, and is not even that funny if you know what they are talking about. China way of doing things is to slowly take over/colonize company/territory. Its a slow advancing machine taking everything, but a useful machine for oothers nonetheless. The real question wouldnt be "why are they spending so much on seemingly useless defense" but more "why are they relying on an enemy" and the answer is money. Like always. Its like saying "if we trade with China, why dont we let them own every trading boats we have". Cause we dont want to let them have this kind of power.
They don't want their voices on record.😂😂😂
No, it’s because the double speak is so ingrained, and the risk of ‘breaking character’ leading to them accidentally saying something unpolitical at the wrong time and place( and the fear of being heard saying such things by their Soviet style political officers or someone who will report to them).
This happens where I work all the time. Ppl complain about something as ineffective, inefficient, that stops us from carrying out our duties or is just plain silly.
Then the director, or the politician in charge of that area make a statement saying it is now policy, and then ppl who were against it not just keep quiet, but will actually defend it as a great and wonderful thing. And if someone does still say it is silly, they usually end up in a meeting with their boss and are told that any decent about official policy is not acceptable.
And in 1938 the United Kingdom's largest trading partner was Germany.
Source?
Weird comparison because Australia is not trying to maintain dominion over Asia like the UK was trying to maintain dominion over Europe (and the world).
@@phillipp5538yeah you tell em! Those bastards dominating the world has a lot to do with 1938 trade with Germany right before ww2. You clever chap.
Exactly 😂.
@@phillipp5538it's even wielder that you seem to have an issue with yhe UK doing that 100 years ago, but not with China doing it today, Mr Ten Cent.
US:"We gotta ditch these subs quickly, the Aussies are onto us"
UK:"Precisely"
Australia:"I'm standing right here"
Haha well they have also never had nuclear subs. So ya know either way its a nice trade off😅
@@tiredanddepressedno it is not lol. Such a waste for the aussies
😂
@@jaesjmes5498how is it a waste for the Aussies? The U.S. and UK are teaching Australia how to build and maintain their own nuclear powered submarines, creating a multi billion dollar per year industry in Australia that simply didn’t exist before. Australia will get a fleet of submarines with truly global reach that are light years ahead of anything in the PLA Navy, and the U.S. is even taking all of the nuclear waste that will be generated by Australias submarines (spent fuel rods). Sounds like a win win for Australia.
@@willymac5036 that's more government spending... Where's that money going to come from?
All fun and games until the guy buying milk decides he wants the whole cow for free
That's a very succinct way of putting it
Especially when the milk buyer has been saying for decades that he is the supreme leader of humanity, Earth and his people and that all other races are inferior to his kind and that he would like to see all of the other races enslaved and serving his kind.
Yet we still eat out of his hand metaphorically speaking and smile while doing it. This country (Australia) makes me sick with its hypocracy.
We sell China most of their Uranium, Coal, Copper and Iron, they literally do not mine Iron anymore because they mined all theirs up and their industry is too unsafe to be successful.
Yet we won't process the materials here in Australia or build nuclear reactors to utilise our natural resources (Uranium)
As a now ex dairy farmer, they already own the industry here :s
Yeah all fun until the guy selling the milk start raising the price to make more profit and gets in cahoots with the other owners of the milk so everyone raises the prices
@@hugomendoza7292 milk aint free
“Shall we use the nod system?” goes hard 💀😂😂😂
It's odd that it isn't more.
freedom to trade with China.... or if needed swap them with someone else. Top trading partner could mean 50%, others 10%,20%30% partners you bypass china.
@@SnipGExactly. This short is funny but the crucial point here is that you can trade with anyone and anything until your trade routes are controlled by China and then you can trade with anyone and anything that China let's you.
you guys are dumber than the generals, just listen to youselves@@keshavagarwal6244
@@keshavagarwal6244 or China decides charge you more now that they control your trade
@keshavagarwal6244 no you cant trade with anyone because no one else produces nearly as much or china or produces jalf of what china does. Also china is the biggest buyer of raw materials so your comment is just plain wrong
Making sure your trade partner doesn't take advantage of your perceived weakness is a worthwhile expense.
Its a rediculously stupid expense. You do understand that trade profits go both ways right?
Yeah lol, honestly we as australians are prentending to be a north american nation when we are square in asia. Time to accept that fact and get closer ties with indonesia, vietnam, malayasia etc instead of just blindly following the americans and British that would abandon us the second shit gets real here like the uk did in ww2 @inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493
Making sure the ants are busy with routine.
@@jernlaween12 man, you edited this?
@jern30829q sure bro left and abandoned. Lol learn history
Im reading every single comment here with an australian accent, and it's an amazing experience
Yeah, nah, "maite"... 😂
Fair dinkum! 😂
@@goodputin4324seppo * * * *
onya mate:)
You are spending the money so your trade partner dosnt become your overlord 😂
Australia already has a US overlord, who they dutifully follow into any bizarre war they start.
@@ExternalInputs Australia is not strong enough to not have an overlord. You'd choose China as an overlord over the US? Really? I've never understood the US lap dog thing that some people seem to hate so much. People forget history and don't realise that if it wasn't for the US Pacific Fleet, Australians would be speaking Japanese.
The protection isn't for the trade with china, it's for you being able to trade with anyone else as well.
It's also for the safety of literally any ship in those waters, China discriminates against erbody
Also to protect the terms of trade in our own interests the more one party controls of the trade the worse terms the other gets.
No it's to prop up the US military complex. Australia could abolish its military and be just fine.
@@abebuckingham8198 yeah because china isn't known for trying to pressure countries with smaller naval capacities into accepting ridiculous and illegal demands.....
@@abebuckingham8198BOT😂😂
Here's the thing. You're not trading because of altruism. It is a selfish agreement. The larger your economy relies on another country, the greater the influence that country has over you.
To be clear, that's how China sees things. China thinks that trading with other countries is just another way of preying on those countries.
The west thinks trade is a way of making friends.
Who is correct? I don't know, but you'd be foolish to trust someone when trade is, to them, another way of waging war.
The conversation here is that it's mutually profitable to trade with China, so why do you need to defend your trade from China when they also benefit from that trade. And even then, china doesn't need to fight to prevent Chinese trade with Australia, they just need to stop trading making the entire idea moot.
@@christophernoneya4635 I understand the point discussed in the video. I also know the source material is meant to be satirical and humorous in nature. I'm just stating that when you are trading with an unfriendly partner, the reason you'd want to project strength is to avoid a situation where you loose the control you have. by trading with china, you've given china influence over you. the only way to stop that is to stop trading as you suggest. the issue with that is that your economy relies on that trade to some extent and if the only card you have to play is to stop trading, then you only have the option to loose the economic boost if you need to respond. as long as the cost of the navy is bellow the economic potential boost of the trade, then it's not a bad way to spend the money. there's also the fact that the other trade routes australia has could be threatened by australia's inability to control it's own waters.
Now, I have no idea if the amounts discussed in this video are relevant or if like so many other things from these guys, its completely ridiculous. I just think the making fun of defensive spending to protect your trade route from your trading partner misses the reality of international diplomacy.
All countries rely on other countries this is a beyond stupid take 😂😂
@alexengel6240 .... no one said anything about countries not relying on other countries. Clarify why you think my comment is beyond stupid.
When ur friend is also ur enemy 😂
a partner in business make you more benefit, its your friend, when that partner got more benefit, then its become your enemy.
You know what is means, right?
@EdyKhang you sound like the most eloquent caveman I've ever heard.
@@therogueadmiral maybe because you are the caveman.
China isn't a friend to anybody. They have their own agenda not shared with all those white gibberish people. And always will. Stupid series, btw.
In a video game called Eve Online some folks set up contracts to ferry goods from one location to another, or they sell really expensive things in remote (bottlenecked) locations. Once they make the sale, they wait to ambush the buyer, and take the money and the merchandise back. So, when folks worry about China attacking trade routes with China, I 1000% see this as a legitimate concern.
It may definitely seem odd, but it's 100% the case. Weaponised economics is no joke.
It kind of is a total joke, which is why this is such a great bit. The reason this is happening is because Australia is helping US to keep China on their toes.
@@AmirGTR China tries to colonize everyone including australia by making them dependent on their trade, and expanding their influence into territories of other indopacific countries.
@@AmirGTRYou do understand that if the person you are trading with controls your trade routes... They pretty much own your economy...
They can either decide to stop trading with you to shut down your economy or they can decide you can't trade with anyone but them to force prices... Among other options...
@@AmirGTR 1841 the British occupied Hong Kong and flooded China with opium to make them more compliant and force them to trade with British empire.
Commadore Perry showed up in Tokyo bay in 1853, flopped his big cannon out and said "Japan is open for trade"
Europe's colonization of the planet stemmed directly from the conquering of Constantinople and the embargo on spices the Muslim world put on Christian Europe. Literally the food was so bland in Europe they went on a world wide conquering spree to acquire spices.
Like, fuck religion. All the crusades were about opening up the trade routes into Asia.
Alexander the great conquered the trade routes from Macedonia all the way past the Indus river where he died of malaria.
So yeah, you want to defend your trade routes from the people who will shoot you for saying you don't want to trade with them.
This isn't in theory either, China already drive down Australian prices on the regular, putting a lot of pressure on exporters.
It's funny how inaccurate yet accurate this is
I mean same could be said about China
The Chinese largest trading partner is... The USA
@warbrain1053 no its not. Mexico is #1. Canada is # 2. Then China
@@Matt-mt2vi i am talking about china. China is trying to protect their trade with the USA, south Korea, Japan, Taiwan (their 4 largest trading partners in order) from USA, south korea, japan and taiwan
@@Matt-mt2vi also you are just wrong china IS IN FACT our biggest trade partner. The info is public, why would you say something so wrong with such confidence
@noemad5391 Maybe you ask yourself the same question. The reply was directed at the China/US comment. It was not about AUS. Neither China nor the US have each other as #1. ASEAN for China and Mexico for the US.
I love how shows make very complicated issues look incredibly simple.
Complicated? Australia sells coal, uranium and lithium in big quantities to china and India. What's complicated about that?
@@losfogo7149 securing trade routes is, in itself, complicated. factor in the pirates operating in asian waters, and international politics and its even more complicated. logistics is not easy.
that's why I appreciate how they can simplify complex issues to get a laugh.
@@bobrice5159 lol what? Australia made statements saying they need to secure trade routes from Chinese interest in the SCS to...deliver goods to china?
Actually, like a lot of satire, it's funny because it's true
@@losfogo7149 secure trade routes to trade with China. Yeah that takes logistics which is complicated.
Be a lot easier to restrict foreign ownership of Australian. Such as the port of Darwin.
"Have major trading partners ever gone to war, despite their high trade volume, when there's been a perceived power imbalance? Yes? Oh, carry on then."
You're completely missing the point. Not once did he argue against being prepared, but if you're so concerned about war with China then being so overprotective of those trade routes doesn't make sense. I doubt we'll be doing much trade once the missles start launching. In reality, the real value of these 'trade' routes is the advantage they offer when it comes to staging an invasion.
You're missing the point. The attempted conclusion of the clip is that the defense spending is wasted given this scenario, and it isn't.
@@Alex-fy7dfmore like America has a problem with china and pulls england and australia with them. Aus needs a navy because they expect amer to pick a fight
@@Alex-fy7dfwhy would we ever go to war with china. The US hasn't won a war against anyone since WW2, why would Australia do any better
Australia will never get invaded so it's a huge waste to protect trade routes. Australia does not need defenders, they need invasion capabilities and a strong Air Force.
This is like Stalin explaining the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
I bet that pact was the beginning of a strong and healthy friendship that lasted decades and ensured that the parties would not ever ever go to war with each other.
Why is everyone always acting like the other side is literally Hitler?
Most of the time, the other side isn't literally Hitler.
@@lightworker2956 I don't get your point: I named Stalin, Molotov and Ribbentrop; _literally_ the only person naming Hitler is you. Care to explain your point?
it only strikes you as odd if you forget its about china
Your trading partner is the number 1 threat because they want your stuff already
Also the more powerful their position the lower the selling price of those resources they buy.
Yeah and guess what? They fucking BUY IT! Why on Earth would you invade a country for its resources instead of just buying it at the market rate?
Honestly, people like you are the worst because you're so convinced in your obviously wrong ideas. I bet you're the same kind of person who thinks the US invades countries for their oil.
except australias sole output is sheep and china doesn’t really need sheep
@@drdeesnutts48 And if they're powerful and bold enough your selling price goes to 0 once you get annexed.
@@Chicky_Lumps so be a slave to usa ?.
The FUCKING nod system! Beautiful 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
While I am mostly a pacifist when it comes to global politics, it isn't unusual at all. As long as the military cost of seizing the assets is higher than the cost of simply purchasing them then peace is maintained. If it becomes more economically feasible to simply seize the assets then that will become a real consideration.
Yeah, no. If China just captured Australian cargo, then Australia would obviously stop trading with them, along with all of their allies. Almost every country is dependent on import, and a global embargo would never be worth the benefit of capturing the cargo once. Unless China is planning on pulling another Pacific Theatre, they're going to keep trading.
No it wouldn't, since literally half the world would stop trading with China which would send their whole economy into the gutter...because China mostly exports to bring money in
@@HarshPatel-zw7yz in 1841 the british empire occupied Hong Kong, and did so for nearly a century and a half.
Why?
Because they wanted to monopolize and control the silk and spice trade coming out of China. Who was already their trading partner.
China sure as shit hasn't forgotten that. Both the injustice.... and its value.
Riches are bought cheaply from the unarmed.
Capturing the cargo? How small you think, my friend. @@HarshPatel-zw7yz
@@HarshPatel-zw7yz that is a part of the "cost" when the consideration is made. Is it worth burning the relationship of our trade partner to get this instance of cargo for free?
Australians talking about spending too much on their military while barely having a functioning one is hilarious
Seriously lol
No more hilarious than the US deciding it needs to spend more when it already spends more than the next 10 countries combined (most of which are allies)🙄
@@methos-ey9nflol where the reason other countries don’t have to spend as much on their own military. If America pulled out of Europe they would immediately have to bump up their own military budgets😂
@@methos-ey9nfChina is aggressively building up its military and they’re not doing it for nothing
They seek to challenge us as the world leader economically and military and we shouldn’t be taking their challenge as joke
Which is what this show literally takes it as
tbf the Australian military hasn’t done any good since WW2, you can say the same of pretty much every other western country
My social credit score is up by 13% after clicking the like button on this video
😂
We have the same social credit scores in the west dude … it’s called credit ratings … and now “cancellations” 😅
@@Rill-sn8nz how to increase this "credit ratings" ?
@@Rill-sn8nz
Wow, I didn't know western financial credit ratings took note of your political allegiance and party loyalty!
@@fds7476I didn’t know the Chinese one did, I thought it was mostly about visiting parents and not being drunk in public
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer
Wrong message, the message is, you're getting fcked in the ass with tax and they're pocketing it.
Self-made enemies 😢
Trade routes? Military protects more than that.
not trade routes,
the hegemony of "rules based, dollar printing military order"
That nod system is very effective and quick
You know who also used this method? Gangsters! It's called extortion
Here's one thing about the nod system:
Those who nodded do not have to own it (take responsibility/recorded in the minute). 😂
3 words, military-industrial complex
South Korean and American industrial complex because we can't make our own for shif
@@jjbrockaas an american, facts.. im tired of my taxes going to stupid stuff.. include pork barrels.. laws that are signed (that addresses 3 or 5 policies) as one policy. hard to read for people, makes it great for politicians coz they can hide the money wherever they want.
I love the Ozzies they're as dry as we are in the old country😂❤
The Indo-Pacific theatre provides many excellent examples of the term ‘frenemy’. This is just one.
The lesson of Pig Iron Bob is that history doesn't always sail to mutually beneficial destinations.
Not a lot of people are old enough to remember Pig Iron Bob.
Not just trade routes, but if they get aggressive, you have to defend yourself.
Ay man shit is funny, but the great power pissing contest between the two great powers and their allies is also serious bidness
We're on the wrong side
@@user-su1vl5fj8g You're right, Mr. Xing Fang, you are indeed on the wrong side.
This is brilliant! They should do America's Military budget next
Are you a Chinese bot?
Absolutely perfect. American Empire is what you’re defending. The rights of American corporations to expand to every market on the planet.
Most bureaucratic meeting ever occured :D
I can't believe that this type of strategic talk was videoed and aired like this.
Really ???
"oh hey Australia, actually we decided we like trading with you so much that WE'RE going to protect your ships for you. And make sure they get where they're meant to go. And only where they're meant to go."
It has “Give me all your money or I’ll beat myself up” energy.
By this logic, Australia spent $14.1 billion in the 2020-2021 year on policing, effectively protecting itself from itself. Countries aren't monoliths, across populations or time. Businesses pay security, to protect their interactions with their customers. There is a bit of humour here, but mostly it's just dead serious.
Our coppers are nothing to be proud of, most of the time... 🥴
Keep your friends close , but keep your enemies closer.
And sometimes protect your enemies so you can be close to them.
Of course America still have benefits from that protection
One of the best documentaries I've ever watched
If a bunch of highly paid highly qualified officials are doing something you think is dumb, it’s probably not dumb and there are probably multiple reasons for it. Chinese government =\= Chinese companies (sometimes), trade routes have more threats than China, it’s good for national security to have the capacity to protect trade routes without US/China involvement, etc.
It makes quite a bit of sense when your trading partner is as shady as....
*Looks at government official*
Government official: China?
Me: *Nods*
Australia is an American puppet state
You know how the gas station checkout has bullet proof glass? Your customer is not always your friend.
While this clip was just a comedy, this couldn't have captured the basic principles of diplomacy and defense policies any better.
The fact they mock it shows they understand the heck about it.
The Germans attacked their main supplier of oil, just because you are trading well doesn’t mean that you will stay frienda
not an apples to apples comparison, why did they attack their main supplier of oil? you need a self conflicting reason to be comparable to the clip here.
@@hzhang1228 i dunno man sees pretty much apples to apples to me... they atacked because their overlords across the ocean wanted to weaken the rival. You know... like a proxy war. And it pretty much destroyed german economy.
Exactly, these guys think the entire world is black and white and comparing Chinese policy to Nazi Germany is a laughable stretch. Nazi's did not attack their main oil supplier because they wanted to take over the oil. They had an ideological justification. China has nothing to gain from attacking Australia apart from halting half their exports and industry to all NATO nations. What a stupid comparison.@@hzhang1228
Actually that was the US who attacked Germany. Germany had zero intention of destroying that pipeline cause they know at some point in time they can trade again. The US wanted to prevent that so they attacked one of their own allies. Also, it wasn't just germany....other countries also had a share in that.
you talking about that russian pipeline that fell out of that hotel window? complete accident. stop talking about it if you know what's good for you comrade.
HAHAHA. Standard defence contractor meeting.
😂 That’s the government for ya 😂
I love the Aussie humour, effing brilliant..
This isn't aussie humour.
This is Government funded political propaganda
Because the men in khaki at that table know China does not have your country's best interests at heart.
To keep asia-pacific trade routes peaceful and free moving, to be able to launch strategically into your own back yard, better to keep the enemy on someone elses island, and to ensure that if a fight breaks out between china and the west that austrailia cant be used as a bargaining tool. And lets be honest these days your military is providing aid after typhoons more than it is doing actual combat.
Australia's (real) defense policy:
Australia is vital to Western defensive coalitions. They are one of the largest nations on the Pacific, and one of the most powerful. Next to Japan and the US, I would say they are the 3rd most important partner countering China. Because yes, China is absolutely the main focus of Pacific defense despite the fact that they are a trading partner with Australia.
China wants further control of the South China Sea, an important shipping lane with waters that include the exclusive economic zones of countries friendly with Australia- the Chinese government claims dominion over waters belinging to Australia's allies.
B.S. you’re not just protecting trade routes. You’re protecting strategic perimeters to preserve your sovereignty. There have been many countries sold to enemies for money and they all perished.
Yeah, agreed.
If Australia spent $15 billion instead of $30 billion on defense, then China wouldn't suddenly start blockading Australia. China doesn't have the interest or even close to the capability to establish naval dominance over the US, who guarantees freedom of navigation.
And if we're looking at the incredibly unlikely scenario where the US collapses and China decides that its primary priority should be building a huge fleet and blockading Australia... well then that $30 billion isn't going to save Australia from the Chinese.
Japan was Australia’s second largest trading partner prior to WWII…
I love the way none of them see an issue with their reasoning. "Champagne comedy"
To be fair even when trading their could be a winner or loser depending on who carries the bug stick.
Look a the Philippines. They traded pretty fair with China for a long time. Then China made their man made islands claiming sea routes and charging extra taxes.
$30 billion is a lot of Garoos, Oalas and Huntsmen.
We thought the same about Russia and look how it turned out
Explaining Australia’s high tax rate in a nutshell,
Our's is low, it's been getting lower for 40 years.
No, that would be Social Security and Welfare that takes up the largest portion of the Australian Federal budget at approximately 35%. Defence is the 6th highest expenditure after Health, Assistance to State Governments, Education and economic recovery from COVID-19. $40 Billion to protect and defend one of the most resource rich countries on the planet seems like a good investment.
@@zeil7059 The lions share of wasted welfare goes to Jobseeker Agencies, who're paid by the government to have unemployed people registered with them.
It makes it so the agency is a parasite sucking up endless welfare dollars, going into already swollen pockets.
Ol' John Howard, who set up this scheme, his wife owned a jobseeker agency.
They are incentivised to create perpetual jobless people, because that's how they keep getting paid.
When it comes to fixing the welfare system, we need to deal with them before anything else.
I once sent this to a mate of mine in defence and he laughed his head off.
So the solution this show proposes is “Don’t worry about China’s aggressive military build up. I’m sure they’re just doing it for fun.”
That’s literally what British and France did in the 1930’s and that didn’t work out too well for them
That is not what happened in the 1930s. France had more tanks and planes than Germany. Also Germany was a neighbor of France while China is 5000km away
@@ulyks that’s closer than the Japanese were. And what are suppose to to just tell Taiwan goodbye and good luck under Chinese rule? That’s 23.5M people. Same with the Philippines?
Do you think it is more aggressive than the Muricans and it's cheerleaders floating their warships and holding naval drills thousands of km's from their own shores and on China's doorstep?
It makes a lot more sense when you add the words "because our boss, America, said so."
Don't forget zionists control ozzie media
Just started the first Episode and am in tears. Great show.
Others have pointed out - this is sorta a stupid complaint. China isn't currently their only trade partner, and without at least some naval assets they soon will be. And then China can dictate the price.
Also $30 billion is nothing in a modern military budget. Total AU tax receipts last year was $668b, so less than 5% is going to the military. China has closer to 20% and a much bigger pie. Unless you plan to defend your trade lanes with rafts and boomerangs, you need to spend a penny or two to have even a few half-decent military vessels.
Prove it . Waiting .
Also by that logic why can't china do same ?
The short answer is if China does pull the plug then you will be 100% dependent on the remaining trade on those routes.
Germany was hugely dependent on trade with Russia until suddenly it wasn't.
It's called corruption
Its called serving US interest
Actually, it's to protect our trade routes with China's neighbours (who are also our major trading partners) and to the American West coast (containing our second biggest trading partner), from China. And those trading partners are doing the same thing.
Oh, Utopia is actually a documentary. Spot on, mate
“We need to get paid more, we need more things” ~ every general that doesn’t have to pay back with interest.
Germany and Britain were the number one trading partners with each other in 1914.
The US needs a president to have this discussion...
I want this fantasy character to be my boss sooooo badly...
Yup, they forgot there was that incident when Australian seafood was banned in China during a seasonal boom. It was in reprisal. It's a complex relationship.😮
Never heard of this series, but I'm sold
Brotherhood of Nod meeting be like
This is exactly how I picture the Aussie government.
Protecting claim to the trade routes and geographical area against foreign claim would be the accurate answer.
The answer is that they are not actually protecting trade routes. They are protecting their power to dictate who gets to trade with who.
China has never been a aggressor or occupier, but there is a big difference in china’s position today then in past 300 years, it wants to take on Taiwan, it’s showing it’s mighty strength at china-India boarder, these are small micro aggressions, a micro aggression might not lead to a war but it could lead to other things like frustration that since they are your strongest trading partner what if they want to increase export fees or unfair changes for its own monetary profits, there would be nothing you can do about it if you have no bargaining chips. So maybe don’t spend a billions but have a plan in place and build redundancies so that when your current system fails you know how to pivot and no one panics.
Now that is one smart aussie 😂😂😂😂😂
People are acting like this is ridiculous. Obviously you want to defend yourself along your trade routes with a militarily superior nation, even if you happen to trade with them right now.
I don't know how people could still have the opinion of this video. The exact same thing could have been said about the EU and Russia.
China openly wants to invade Taiwan (a country that also trades a lot with Australia), and militarily expand and conquer the south china sea.
Defense spending 101 just paychecks for defense contractors
When you begin militaristic maneuvers against another country that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
At the end of June 2022, 597,440 Chinese-born people were living in Australia, 47.0 per cent more than the number (406,390) at 30 June 2012.