5 Things I Wish I Knew: Sim Racing in Virtual Reality (VR)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- Virtual Reality is becoming more and more popular for sim racers. Before you make the leap however, here are five things I wish I knew before I purchased a VR headset for sim racing.
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Almost 10k!
I am a quadriplegic and watching your videos I decided to start building a Sim racing set. I should be welding it together the frame next week to work with my wheelchair. Hand controls included! Thanks for the awesome content and keep it up! I will make a video too, we will!
Any updates?! Sounds cool as he'll man!
@@poopypants1043 This sunday I'm finishing it!! It was hard to get extra hand control stuff because insurance those extras stuff away. I had friends dumpster diving. Excited for FH5!
@@Spectraltv thx for the update, look forward to seeing it!
When's this video coming dude??
@@adamlitchfield3371 The video is out now! I have it on my channel!
The eye strain is true with any vr game at first…. You can only go for short bursts at first but after the first month or so you can live in the damn thing.
2) I turn on the base stations together with my wheel base and some headsets don't even have them. Steam VR automatically starts with the game, so does Oculus when you put the headset on. I never need to calibrate again if once done before. For me and most others the additional step is just to wear the headset.
1) I always have a fan pointed towards me, keeps me cool and the headset from fogging up, can drive for hours that way. Did some endurance races in iR including triple stints for example.
Loved reading your comments on all of my points. Very insightful, thanks 🙏
as i use my wheel at my desk settings up vr is comparatively less of a hassle so like a majority of the time racing for me is done in vr and i love it especially on an AC free roam track like SRP
AC free roam is incredible in VR.
congrats on 10k!!
Thanks for the video
Great video man, you deserve so many more follower.
Glad you think so 😊
great video. subbed!!
Thanks!
4) games usually can look as good as on flat screen if the PC is powerful enough to achieve it. Of course depending on the headset resolution it can look more pixelated. For best results you probably need 130-150% super sampling on lower res headsets. On the other hand you get things with VR a flat screen just can't, no matter how shiny things look and that's real scale and depth.
I agree with everything you mentioned and I feel the same but still really cool when you want to get fully immersed.
Just subbed. You're going to be big bro. Great content
Thanks Manuel 🙏
I always love your videos. You should get way more views becouse this content is true quality.
BTW you are the main reason that I bought the thrustmaster ts-xw and the xx evo wheel add-on. Thanks for that.
What do you think of the TSXW?? 🤠
@@OCRacing its great. The force feedback is powerful and precise. And the ecosystem of thrustmaster is also really handy.
Now I am going to save up to buy a playseat.
If I can I wil buy the next level racing gt track becouse I like the seat so much.
@@OCRacing there is only 1 problem when I play forza horizon.
It sometimes randomly opens the menu. Without me pressing any buttons.
@@luukwaalewijn9587 Next Level Racing will be releasing a new flagship cockpit later this year. Might wanna keep your eyes peeled for that
Just ordered Oculus Quest 2, this is quite helpful. :D Thanks
For 2, that's more my problem with sim racing, rather than vr. With vr that doesn't need base stations its simple and fast, but I hate needing to set up my wheel and pedals every time if I want a quick racing session. I usually end up not doing it and playing a non racing game instead
I've had a Rift S for over 5 years. It's difficult to race without VR now.
I bought a Pimax 8KX recently. Still fine tuning it. It's definitely not plug and play like the Rift S.
Great video.
I use a CV1 and I find that to get started, I only need to start the Oculus program. Maybe that's because it uses fixed sensors that I don't have to move at all. When I start AC, LFS, DR 2.0 or iRacing, no need to setup anything, and they all offer a button mapping so you can set the view reset on your wheel. Once I'm sit in my rig, I just press the button and that's it. I must say that it is true that after 40 mins or so, it's get pretty hard for the eyes. But seeing the world in 3d, looking at the apex and seeing the car in 3d makes so much difference. I can race so much closer to other racers without contacting because of the VR. Makes racing a lot of more fun!!
I use the Quest 2 wireless and a Playseat.
I can very much relate to the set up part but with a playseat and Quest 2 it really isn't harder than sitting down in the couch once you have pcars2 (my goto car game) setup.
I had some issues with the headset in terms of comfort when I first got it but now I more often just forget it's there. The eye scratch? Yeah, I constantly scratch the headset because I forget I have it on.
The graphics are indeed something that surprised me. Sure, I don't have the best headset but it does not feel like that is the problem. Pop ins and stuff in pcars disturb the immersion at times.
I think all your points are valid and people should see if the games they want (enough of them) to play are supported and borrow a headset if possible. I play Elite and quite a few other VR games so for me the 300 USD on a headset was no issue. My steering wheel cost more. 😅
5) But quite a lot are: AC, ACC, Pcars1-3, Richard Burns Rally (mod), AMS1 (mod), AMS2, iRacing, Race Room, rFactor2, Dirt 1, Dirt 2, Euro Truck Sim, Kart Kraft or plenty flight sims which are also cool. And it's also easy to find out before getting into it. Regarding Forza it's mainly an Xbox game so no surprise.
I absolutely love racing in vr, even with the potato settings I have to use on my pc.
Vr in dirt rally and project cars 2 was actually what got me into sim racing
Edit: the eye strain definitely gets better after getting used to it, the discomfort from wearing the headset for a long time is definitely real tho. With the long session lengths in pcars for example, it can get a bit painful haha
As I keep my sensors and headset plugged in all the time, setup for me is just putting the rift on^^
Yeah, setup for me is a much bigger deal 😅
Very interesting since I am thinking of getting a headset. I wonder if many of those issues are the result of the type of headset you are using? I know about the hassle of setting everything up. I use a GT lite racing rig, so I have to pull it out and set it up. My desk is too high when I am sitting in it so I use a folding table to place the monitor on at a lower height. Then I have to hook up the head tracking for the trackir clone I use. I remove the buttkicker off my chair and move it to the racing rig. I then run afterburner, ryzenmaster, opentrack, Logitech G Hub, Voicemeeter banana, simhub, crewchief (depending on the game), content manager (for assetto corsa), steam, smart game booster (because of a bug in my system that will not allow certain apps to run unless I stop cortana and a few other things... don't ask), DTS-x, because the surround sound that comes with my Logitech G pro x is not very good, and finally equalizer APO and Peters Peace addon for the equalizer. The G pro x sounds way better when running the equalizer APO. If I am not having some type of software issue, then I can finally start the game. Every time Windows has an update, it breaks my sound and I have to re-install equalizer APO and reset some sound configurations. Then if I am playing star citizen or elite dangerous, I remove the steering wheel and shifter and add my hotas, joystick, and keyboard. But ohhhh, I have sooo much fun with these (Toys) whenever I get to play. I am 52, so life gets in the way far too much.
Having only a single monitor with my wheel permanently attached to my desk but not right in front, I actually find my oculus quest less hassle than having to move my monitor and speakers to the side and back when I want to race. Helps that its much cooler than racing on the flat screen as well.
Yeah, I guess it really depends on which one you primarily use.
Wow I'm early. You're getting to 10K tmr.
That's a little bit of a stretch... I'm hoping sometime this week though :D
Keep up the content mate.
Thanks, will do!
Get a Quest 2, I just start the app on my PC, put on my headset and use hand tracking to link, then start the game and I'm good. I don't even need the controllers, nor are the controllers a hastle anyways. You would lose resolution, though. But Assetto loops perfect with 4k per eye and 1.5x scaling.
Allmost 10k subscribers! Maybe after this milestone fanatec will send you something :)
Thanks Damian :)
if by "having a VR headset strapped onto your face can get quite uncomfortable after a while" you mean that the headset rests on or seems to drag down your cheeks, try putting a counterweight to the headstrap. i have a battery bank for my quest 2 and it's a lot more comfortable compared to not having a battery bank on the back.
Interesting.. I’ll consider it. Thanks 🙏
I do the same thing. It really balances the headset and noticeably helps with comfort. Also getting a good 3rd party face cover really helps
3) guess it depends on the headset, settings, PC performance, if you get used to or maybe some are more sensible. When I use high res and fps I can drive for 5 hours without issues. My back hurts from the seat before my eyes from the headset. You definitely need to have a quite high end PC especially for demanding games.
It's important to have 90fps consistent. At least 100% resolution, better is 120-150%. And the correct IPD (distance between eyes)
I’ll glad I watched this video
This is why I'm not bothered anymore by not having VR, I returned my reverb while I could because it gave me such a mind ripping headache. Triple screens offer fun for longer periods of time and less likely to almost murder your PC when you spill your drink on it because you're trying to take a sip while on a straight away going 165mph
If you’re trying to drink at 165 mph while in VR…you’re not really racing. 😂
Maybe use a sealed container with a straw for drinking.
Everyone compains that Reverb G2 is blurry
Almost at 10k letss go 💪
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My man your vids are great! Great video ideas, your style of telling things, audio quality, editing, BUT you a lacking a better camera! Taht would make your videos a lot more HQ!
I’ll consider it. Appreciate the feedback 🙏
The most painful problem with me with the vr headset is the first 30 min it fogs up from where it’s cool and my face is warm. So it’s hard to see anything
I am researching a sim racing set up and I see opinions that screens are better because VR is fatiguing after 30 minutes. Having driving high performance track cars on actual tracks, it IS fatiguing after 20 minutes. Is this the reason or is there another VR issue that makes it so?
Honestly, i am amazed at how well you did the monaco track.
Me too 😂
Me: Ah man, I usually play F1, Dirt rally, ACC, but don't really have much space for big monitors, I wonder if vr would be good for those.
This video: lol.
DiRT Rally 2.0 does look pretty good in VR you need to make sure it's native res due to barrel distortion render at 1.7
I didn't try many racing games yet but I find this game awesome. I have a RTX 1070... Graphic medium.
What do you mean by this barrel distortion render at 1.7?
Why dont you have your basestations always on? I just open the game and select vr and dont have to do anything else. Only hit just one button when in the car and it is callibrated.
I wonder if you can power the games straight from the VR instead of having to buy a PC too
me: when will the next vid be ou-
oc racing: here you go
I will unfortunately have to go back to only 1 video a week very soon as school started literally yesterday lol.
2:55 you should’ve done your research before buying a VR headset for sim racing. HP Reverb G2 is the best value VR headset for VR sim games or Quest 2. You don’t need to set up lighthouse base stations because those 2 headset I mentioned use inside-out tracking. HP Reverp G2 is going for 299$ right now it’s even cheaper than Quest 2.
you need to set it up every go ?
I've raced 4 hours on the sim in vr with a oculous rift s and never gotten eye strain
You say that it's not nice have to plug your vr, base stations, etc. How about if you turn off your computer, unplug all the cables and keep your pc in a box every time you finish playing?
The eyestrain honestly sounds like you haven't set your IPD correctly on your Vive Pro, which will cause your eyes to sit slightly cross-eyed or wall-eyed in order to focus. Look up IPD setting guides, use the credit card method or some other way, or just try a different setting and see how it feels. If you get it right, there should be no more eyestrain than looking through a pair of glasses all day.
if you really want to do sim racing in vr i recommend playing other vr titles until you get used to the locomotion way of movement in them it helps get rid of motion sickness
Yup, makes sense.
That 99% stat is absolutely ridiculous. Keep up the amazing work, your videos make getting into sims so much easier.
Thank you for the informative content, im sure the 99% appreciates it 🤟
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@@OCRacing hey I’m subscribed
100 away from 10000 subs great job man
Thank you!!! 🙏
@@OCRacing np
Half an hour? I did full indy 500 and my only problem was around lap 170 when sweat started comming into my eyes
The reason it's making your eyes dizzy is because in VR goggle, the image will only look good when you look straight and turn your head instead of moving with your eyeballs like you would normally do in real life, then the things you're looking at will become distorted and create eye strain.
None of the Amazon links in the description works for me here in Denmark. Just a heads up
Thanks for letting me know!
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Why wasn't this in my recommended only a few months ago... I hope F1 2022 has VR support.
Also, CLOSE YOUR EYES when you flip in VR, if you don't, be ready to be sick.
I’m hoping F1 2022 will finally have VR support as well 🥲
In a vr set, you are not looking into a screen two inches in front of your face. It's not even possible for your eyes to focus that close. The optics simulate a screen much further away. The oculus stuff is 1.5 meters i think. In this regard, vr is better than looking an screens, unless you play on a big ass tv.
Put your headset and all base stations, on smart plugs. "Alexa, turn on VR". Ding.
You're welcome.
Spending more on my rig is the last thing I need 😅
@@OCRacing It actually made me a lot more likely to put it on for other games. But still not doing it much for racing, since you have to turn everything down so much or you end up killing your frame rate and feeling sick.
i hope racing in vr gets easier with psvr2,no messing around with configs.
just saw a video of someone explaining how to us vr in f1
Yup. Setup can be a pain. Plenty of times setup has taken so long, that I get fed up, switch it off, and play COD mobile instead.
I know this isn’t based on the video but are in Australia (OC)or America since you just went to New York
I'm based in the United States. Would love to visit Australia though.
Number 2. only applies to some headsets! many newer headsets have Inside out tracking and don't need all that. just plug and play!
I think iracing is compatible with vr and people say it looks like asstetto corsa with no graphic mods but the game is very realistic
Its not the most “realistic” from a graphics perspective, but it’s the driving experience that they master.
You going to be doing something special for 10k, maybe giveaway or even fanatec upgrade 😶
I haven't really put much thought into it tbh.
PC2 looks incredible in VR. Enjoyed the gameplay!
The best looking VR sim racing game in my opinion.
Pc3 also? Just bought VR, still need to install...
Yea same I wish I knew these before starting vr
What headset do you use?
@@OCRacing index it’s a good vr headset I’d recommend it
First: Most people get used to all the uncomfortable things. At least I did.
Second: if you buy a more modern Headset, you don't need these stupid poles to let the Headset know where it is. You start the game in VR and done.
I recommend the Reverb G2 btw.
And last but not least: The new F1 does support VR ;-)
Found theres two types of people. Some who don’t jell with VR sim racing and some who will never go back to 2d.
For me it really comes down to the price & space... VR would cost less and take less space, than a single big screen, or god help my wallet, 3 screens... I'd probably prefer 3 monitors or projector for long periods of time, but VR would still be better than my single tiny screen I have now...
I thought dirt rally 2.0 looked very good with medium setting and ultra textures
Plus you can never spend time focusing on your dashboard, your eyes are always on the road
It's still the most immersive VR simulator outside of the textures being "slightly" blurry when you look at them very closely
I might have to go in and dedicate more time to figuring out the settings. Looking forward to future VR rally games in the future though
Totally agree here
Forza in VR would be fucking insane, lol.
I own a Rift CV1. I wish i realised before buying how hot it will get. I get pretty hot pretty quick. So that was kinda my biggest regret.
Setup is not that big of a deal because i dont unplug it everytime. It is pretty much ready to go when i want it to.
Thing is. Like you are saying. Most times i just want to game a bit after a long day. And altough VR is way more immersive and really fun, it is indeed not as relaxing. Making me choose the single monitor quite often.
Also i was shocked that i needed to pretty much learn to drive again. Because everything looks huge in VR compared to a 22'' screen, i missed all my braking points and apexes. Got used to that though and switching is not a problem.
It did NOT make me faster. However. For drifting.... I got WAY WAY WAY!!!! better. Just because i could look into the corner instead of only straight ahead, my angles were much better. There was the biggest gain for me. Not expected. But VR drifters have an actually great advantage over single screen users. Dont know about tripple screens. But i still think VR is OP when drifting.
Last thing. The WOW factor, that magical feeling, that extreme emersion.... It will fade. I know i am playing a game. That initial beeing blown away feeling wont ever come back again. Sad truth. I think that is why i often game on the monitor. The comfort is better and that wow factor of vr has faded. (But its still freaking awesome)
Totally agree on the “wow” factor fading away although it’s always fun to see friends and family trying it out for the first time and seeing their reactions.
Bro how does yours look so much better when I have a better computer then you?
You just talked me out of it for now, I don't like to fanny about with things, But i really do wanna experience siting in the cockpit in VR
"I'll make a video in the future talking about the best looking sim racing games for VR"
I am still waiting :/
Keep waiting 😂
It’s so crazy that you don’t have more subscribers. I’m disappointed in the community.
If your next Video is interesting I will follow, Deal?
Interesting offer
I have the Quest 2; it's pretty easy to set up as it doesn't have cameras and only requires a single cable from the PC to the headset. But I couldn't use it for more than minutes because of the motion sickness, I almost threw up!
It's better to test your games and stomach by borrowing a headset before committing to buy one.
Motion sickness with VR definitely affects some more than others. I’ve never felt any (major) problems while some friends who’ve tried it out definitely have.
If you use airlink or Virtual Desktop you don't need any cables for the Questc2.
I have no problem with motion sickness or comfort issues.
I have an extra battery on the back of headset for counterbalance. I never get tired of playing in VR.
jit uses a vive
These games dont look good in VR, becasue you are using a lower resolution headset. Asseto Corsa looks amazing on my quest 2 and pimax 8kx
VR is great and not for everyone
It’s cheaper than getting all accessories to look like you’re in a sim
Have you ever raced in real life? Put on a helmet and tell me how much you sweat 😂 plus it’s much heavier.
Thx for realizing how broke i am i have a 250.1 dollar pc
Hey, we all start somewhere…
1: vr technology isn't that great yet - for consumer prices
2: one needs an rtx 3090 and still will get low fps on racing games, at least with oculus quest 2
3: A tad of a hassle to use with non vr games
Literally 99% of your viewers are not subscribed 😳
2:55 dude, you are Just lazzy..... For me take literaly 30 second to set the vr and start to play.
1- plug the vr sensors.
2 - turn on the wheel
3- Sit down in my rig
4- put the helmet on.
5 done!
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Eye strain/fatigue depends entirely on the headset you're using. This has t odo with the refresh rate and not the game implementation.