Great discussion about the bots in Brighter Shores. Andrew intentionally not only gave us the passive systems, but also tried to intentionally design the economy to not really incentivize the RMT market - but we don't know what this means quite yet. It'll all come down to whether people feel value in purchasing via RMT or not. If botting is profitable, we'll see it. If not, then we won't! Thankfully, as you said, the room system will keep the player experience from being negatively impacted directly.
If AFK actually gets you tradeable resources at a semi-decent rate (even if way slower than active play), there's nothing stopping gold farmers from creating 10000 accounts and only getting premium once an account has enough to sell to offset the costs. AFK should probably mainly give XP and not much in terms of tradeable items. If the market price of F2P-accessible items ends up being remarkably low, it likely indicates some kind of botting problem.
Passive activities only appear to give you passive resources used in passive crafting - so you can only get passive-exp-rates from it. And that's even if they're tradeable. My best guess is that they won't be just due to the sheer fact that in the long term, botting or no, the passive resource market would be flooded.
@@Teloril Ooo I had not heard this yet. My bigger concern is bots not bothering with the afk system at all. It will be interesting to watch this all unfold over the next 6 months.
I've pointed out that multiboxing, a method used by botters, gold sellers and account sellers, is not specifically against ToS. This should be changed as soon as possible. For anyone who is against botting, making sure this is made explicitly against ToS is one way to fight botting. Please support this in the reddit/steam community thread.
Yeah I agree this can be a problem when gold sellers get involved. I know many legitimate players like to play games like this as well. That being said I still think I prefer them just to allow one account online at a time as this can lead to all kinds of exploits.
I think no F2P trade will go along way but if the price of gold is high enough the botters will just have p2p accounts. Its worrying to see what clients have done to OSRS pvp as well.
Great discussion about the bots in Brighter Shores. Andrew intentionally not only gave us the passive systems, but also tried to intentionally design the economy to not really incentivize the RMT market - but we don't know what this means quite yet. It'll all come down to whether people feel value in purchasing via RMT or not. If botting is profitable, we'll see it. If not, then we won't!
Thankfully, as you said, the room system will keep the player experience from being negatively impacted directly.
Thank you! Sounds like if anyone can manage it Andrew will. I'm still super excited for the release this week.😁
Great quality video, love your sound quality. Take my sub! Take it!
Thank you! Here I was thinking the sound needed a little work.😅
One more day everyone! I hope your all as hyped as I am. What class are you all thinking of playing?
Its so hard to choose! I think I'll probably go Guardian. I like the nature vibe.
If AFK actually gets you tradeable resources at a semi-decent rate (even if way slower than active play), there's nothing stopping gold farmers from creating 10000 accounts and only getting premium once an account has enough to sell to offset the costs. AFK should probably mainly give XP and not much in terms of tradeable items. If the market price of F2P-accessible items ends up being remarkably low, it likely indicates some kind of botting problem.
Passive activities only appear to give you passive resources used in passive crafting - so you can only get passive-exp-rates from it. And that's even if they're tradeable. My best guess is that they won't be just due to the sheer fact that in the long term, botting or no, the passive resource market would be flooded.
@@Teloril Ooo I had not heard this yet. My bigger concern is bots not bothering with the afk system at all. It will be interesting to watch this all unfold over the next 6 months.
I've pointed out that multiboxing, a method used by botters, gold sellers and account sellers, is not specifically against ToS. This should be changed as soon as possible. For anyone who is against botting, making sure this is made explicitly against ToS is one way to fight botting. Please support this in the reddit/steam community thread.
Yeah I agree this can be a problem when gold sellers get involved. I know many legitimate players like to play games like this as well. That being said I still think I prefer them just to allow one account online at a time as this can lead to all kinds of exploits.
I think no F2P trade will go along way but if the price of gold is high enough the botters will just have p2p accounts. Its worrying to see what clients have done to OSRS pvp as well.
I agree. My hope is that Andrew has some clever detection system behind the scenes.
@@Wandering_Wisps I have a feeling that Andrew won't release trading until everything is sorted. Trading will be released later on anyway.
@@belandino I am hopeful this will be the case. I guess we wont get full trade until the early access ends. Then the real fight begins!
Absolutely great watch!
Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it. 😄