The 928 is still just pure magic all the way. Perfect long distance GT - fast and comfortable with good value for money. Maintenance is important and not cheap but it is a high end machine with a good collectors future and hence rising prices for a good well maintained one with car history. The engine is still one of the best V8 classcic worldwide with great sound torque power and designed for a long live. What more can one ask for - it's a Porsche at it's best!
Glad you have decided to keep your 928. After 8 years it still takes my breath away any time I look at it or drive it...I've dropped 1k into it this year. You have spent a lot of money bringing yours up to standard and taking care of the deferred maintenance is the biggest hurdle. We are truly blessed to have people like Roger that have the parts and advice to keep these great classics on the road. Wishing you many "chocolate " miles as always !
Great fucking video. I have a Porsche 928 Euro short stick 5 speed with 60k miles on it with a few ownershipt. Awesome machine. I rarely drive it and love this damn car.
The 928 is not cheap. It is a very complex automobile, I have own 4 in my lifetime, there are just a few with low mileage. So, be careful because repairs and maintenance are not cheap. The last one I kept is a 1988 S4. Love it. Most of its life has been in the garage. Is now passing to my son. I drive a newer 4S Carrera and still, every time I take out the 928 can not be anything else but impressed. What a car! Impressive but not cheap to maintain.
They're one of the easiest and most straightforward Porsches to work on, and the water-cooled engine is much simpler to keep running than its air-cooled predecessors. Yeah, if you have them serviced by a dealer, you'll go broke. But they're...remarkably reliable, for German cars. The 928 is probably one of Porsche's most reliable. Mileage doesn't mean much, when it comes to maintaining them. The 928's V8 is all but bulletproof, can last easily into the 200k range, and either gearbox can be rebuilt every 150-200k miles or so, properly maintained. It's a work of a art, both in the overall design and the engineering. Fabulous work from Porsche's engineers. It has the period's electrical gremlins, and the prior-owner propensity to both lead-foot and burn it dry of oil, but they're not even among the most expensive Germans of the era to maintain - even if you're taking them to the dealer. They're fabulous cars. Not a huge fan of Porsche, but it's one of the best pieces of machinery from the 80s and 90s, easily. And certainly one of the most reliable Euro cars - and that's not even considering its performance as front-engine, the new water-cooled engine, the stellar automatic gearbox alongside the stick, light curb weight, incredible handling for a street car of the era, etc. Apart from that, it's just the old car and Euro tax, as maintaining them goes. And they're far from the worst offender even I've ever owned.
@@enjoyradiosilence I had an SC. I get it, but I don't get the boomers who hype them up. They are too common to be interesting, unless they are one of the aforementioned models. If money was no object I'd have a 924CGT before another 911.
I owned one for fourteen years, engine bullet proof and I loved the car but I had 3 cars and one company car so one had to go. If I had the money now I would by a 1995 GTS the most beautiful of the lot.
Hear me out if you’re thinking about buying one of these…you need to be committed and handy with a wrench. This car is better than the 911 in almost every way, and the numbers back it up. Fastest Porsche in 1984? No, not the Turbo 930, it was the euro spec 928.
Link to articles with that info, please! I have a '84 Euro S2 5-sp in my garage. Interior out now, getting some refreshment. Still need to replace fuel lines, new alternator, and a list of other stuff before I drive it any more than the around the block a few times after I acquired it.
I love the design, and the pop up frog lights. I am searching for one, as I could afford to buy one cash now. My current vehicle, and the ones before were paid with monthly payments, I made to the dealership. The reason I want one is, because I had a 1987 Porsche 928, back in the summer of 1993, which was given to me as a gift. The person who gave me the vehicle asked to borrow it, and he totaled it drunk driving. I believe it was soon after the Northridge earthquake... 😢😢😢
That's one of my fave things about it - look at other cars being made then, and cars around the early 2000s - that whole design was a decade ahead of its time, and it's aged remarkably well.
Love the 928. Been my #1 car since I was 21 yrs old. My boss had a 79 928 5 spd. Guards red. He let me take it out and drive it without him in the car. What a awesome car. Test drove several over the years the fastest was a 5 spd 1985 model. Slow by todays standards. I never bought one … yet. Being 60 yrs old now I am looking to get one to park it next to my 1981 Trans Am Pace car. Knowing what I know now and being very mechanically inclined. I will do a LS swap on a 84 and newer 928. I looked at and rode in a 86 928 that was LS engine swapped with 400 hp to the wheels. That’s 500 flywheel hp. What a car and it was done right. I know the Porsche purist will hate hearing that but that’s my plan. Why am I going with a 84 and up. Well all 928s from 1977-1983.5 have aluminum ball joints. I can’t believe Porsche did that. I know they can be changed out but that’s just one less thing I have to worry about. Besides I like the 84 and up 928s compared to the earlier ones. So I will be looking for one with engine issues which should be easy to find. As the majority of these cars have been neglected.
Brilliant post! Thanks for posting! I say make it your own. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks, particularly if you’re saving one from the scrapper. Write back and let me know ow your progress!
@@mattspontiactathanks! Wait till you see the next one! The first EVER Porsche 928 built and the 2nd and the 4th all in one place on video for the first time! Stay tuned!
Sure you should buy one? Of course! Just a couple prerequisites. Have a super skilled and trustworthy mechanic or wrench on it yourself. They're complex, not a car to let your brother in-law the shade tree mechanic replace your water pump. Get the best one you can find, later S4s or GTS. From 95 to 98 l leased a manual GTS and loved it. A great car for long trips. During the early 90s they had worked most of the kinks out and it might have been the best high speed tourer on the market. The biggest prerequisite is money. This isn't a car you can maintain on a shoestring budget and even if your a highly skilled mechanic and can sidestep the labor cost parts are very expensive so come to terms with $5-10k repair bills.
I love the design, and the pop up frog lights. I am searching for one, as I could afford to buy one cash now. My current vehicle, and the ones before were paid with monthly payments, I made to the dealership. The reason I want one is, because I had a 1987 Porsche 928, back in the summer of 1993, which was given to me as a gift. The person who gave me the vehicle asked to borrow it, and he totaled it drunk driving. I believe it was soon after the Northridge earthquake... 😢😢😢
@@JAYREADYes..😞 I want an exactly same year, and model. 1987 Euro.. The color was bronze, but I think that color is a bit cheesy. I'm searching for a grand prix white.🤩
I have an 88S4 (106k) and a of people think low miles are the best. NOT necessarily true.They need to be driven so all wires/ hoses do not dry out..this how fires can be started. Records are good as well. Drive and enjoy
I live in Northen California USA. I just found a 1984 with 120,000 miles garaged the majority of time. It comes with an automatic transmission. Is the 1984 928 comes with 3 or 4 speed transmission? Any info will be appreciated... Hopefully is not sold in the coming days as I'm putting some money together and get it. Back in the 90's one of the chefs at the restaurant I used to work had one and always loved it. I told myself some day I will have one of those...
Either a Pacific Blue Metallic or a Platinum Metallic would suit me perfectly. Now fit it with a fresh Pasha velour interior and I'd be in heaven. Still in love after all of these years.
I have a great memory of my 928... a gorgeous chiffon cream color with cognac brown leather interior, it was an automatic 4 speed that o only had 24,000 miles on it when I sold it to buy a house in the 80s. Mine had the blauplunkt radio with amplifier with the short wave, which made listening to radio free Europe a fun hobby. I must say it turned heads and anytime you stopped to get gas or to run iinto a store, people would say "nice car" it was a beautiful sexy car everywhere i went it got noticed because it stood out as a subtle sports car that looked so different from the rest of the 80s cars on the road. I loved driving it then when I was young and successful. Now I other priorities and the 928 is just a memory. ❤
I've just bitten the bullet and bought an '88 S4 with a genuine 55000 miles with full service history backing it up. Needs the cambelt changed which is £820 though, but it could be worse.
I worked at Scooterman in London many years ago and had a work mate who had one of those. I was driving a VW golf with drunk customers, Hoooray Henrys who previously had been delivered by workmate with Porsche. They were convinced he was telling porkies. They were explaining to me how the last scooterman was telling them obout his Porsche. I explained he paid way less than their sad Golf and giggled a bit... Laughed out loud kind of giggling. No tip. :(
Thanks for a well considered analysis. Based in the uk, in 1984 I bought a modest house for 32k, some one paid 35k for my 928. My gripe with the 928, and to be fair probably other models is the price premium for the word Porsche. I have found that ingunuity is the key to curbing cost. Typical example is the gearbox sump gasket is under half price from Mercedes direct. Does Porsche really need to double the cost? Multiply that across the car and it makes a difference. Electrical gremlins, Bosch relays are not reliable. I traced several issues to failed relay coil windings in the relays. Polish all switch contacts, including relays, they tarnish badly, I wonder if there is a volatile sulphide from the acres of leather ?
Very much agree with the Porsche tax although I will say that there is no other car on the market with a depreciation curve like a Porsche. They’re remarkable really. Don’t talk to me about the bloody 928 electrics! Hateful system! Lol!
@@JAYREADEver been tempted to change to a PDU based system? There is a lot of complexity which was pioneering in its time but no one would do now. The essential starting point has to be the right wiring diagram in the manual, Greg Nicols web site and a healthy dose of bloodyminded determination!
@@JAYREAD yes and no, the ability of the Pdu to replicate most of the rats nest of a fuse board is peerless, plus the diagnostic ability. Most circuits are intrinsically simple, what complicates is the relay logic. Most of the engine management functions are easily replicated in a motec unit. I’ve been tempted, but I also have other projects that demand time more urgently.
My 1986 Porsche 928s 32v 5speed timing belt (EPDM type) and water pump, rollers... etc are over 20 years old last replaced in 2003 and if it snaps a Tesla motor conversion. Almost 200k miles and still going strong and same color as yours. I refused a $28000 offer.
Agree on all points. Roger is an excellent resource for knowledge *and* parts. While you can dump a ton of money into a 928, much of the “maintenance” is just that; replacing and maintaining ~40 year old deteriorated parts. My advice would be to buy the best-maintained one you can find and keep that maintenance going.
Seems you got the full leather option which I think cost around an extra $5K. Leather is a pain to maintain, but is really nice. Edit: Isee further in the video, you don't have the full leather interior - at least the headliner is vinyl.
@@JAYREAD the texture. Many of the cars had certain leather parts, such as the seats, but other parts such as the headliner and other trim pieces like the rear quarter panels were vinyl. I could be wrong about your car, but the way to tell is if there is a texture(which I saw in your headliner) it's vinyl. The leather is smooth.
The early uk cars had the leather dash as standard from what read that then became an expensive option. You could get leather seats but that did not include the dash unless paid extra
I've had Mint mobile for over 4 years now. Love it! Good video. This is a topic that I think too many people don't fully understand before making purchases, and it ofyen.comes back to bite them. Too many people get focused primarily on the purchase price and base their budget around that figure. Huge mistake! My philosophy is take the purchase price and then 2.5x that number. That will give you a more realistic budget to get the car running reliably. I would say a common 928 you see for sale is a $40k. What I mean by this is no matter what neglected 928 you buy, it will cost $40k to have a reliable one. So if you buy a $20k example, expect to put $20k into it. If you buy a $15k example, expect to put in $25k. With that said, you have to plan it out properly, too, or it will get even more expensive. Do as much as you can all at once....not onesy-twosy repairs here and there. I'm even a huge fan of pulling the engine and transmission so that everything can be inspected and replaced as needed. I'm making a video series on a 2005 330i ZHP with 218K miles that I'm restoring. I'm documenting the process. I'll be revealing all the parts I've already bought for it. None of the parts are going on this car until the engine and transmission come out.
FYI Douglas Bader was a WW2 British ace who lost both legs in the war. The Germans let the British fly over and drop him some prosthetic legs. He strapped them on and shortly later tried to escape with them.
The purity of the lines on the early car compared with the S4 and GTS has always been a talking point that can get heated. I've just bought a S4 and just love it.
The 928 is still suffering from the circular curse of cheap to buy expensive to own. People who don't have the money to restore them buy them and then pass them on once they realise. They won't invest in the car out of fear of resale values not returning on their investment. Wrong owners with the wrong cars. Those who can do restore these and experience what marvelously impressive cars they actually are. This might offend some viewers/owners, but Porsche bending over to the emissions regulations and building neutered versions for the US no doubt drags down the model. Nobody wants a US-spec version by choice, they are strangled to all hell. They are NOT the genuine experience. For that you need a Euro-spec version. The sooner more of the junk US-spec examples get parted out to keep the great examples on the road the better. Your car is a nice one, Jay. On your gearbox though, something or several things must not be set-up correctly. It's pretty common. Even the 3-speed is fast in a Euro S when working correctly. Yes, really.
I agree to some point. I think by the S3 US spec cars were ok. I drove a US ‘85 5sp 32v car in high school and it pulled like a freight train. Now I have 2 euro spec 5 speeds and wouldn’t have it any other way. I can’t even look at the US cars the same way anymore with the ugly side markers in front/behind the wheels or the bumprettes
The 928 came out at a time when I was just starting to get interested in cars and it was quite amazing, futuristic looks and the technology. Over time it has become a car that I love seeing others own and care for (like Jay) but it has dropped far down the list of cars that I'd desire to own.
I get that. You know, there are lots and lots of cars that I love seeing and I am so glad exist in the world and that people care for them that I have no desire to own. It’s all about the passion, I reckon. If people are happy and they own something lovely and they are passionate about it then that makes me happy too. Cheers!
928s are not more expensive to maintain than 911s. It's just the low market value that makes people think twice about big investments. Actually, they are far superior to the stock G-models of the time from a driving perspective: Much more predictable, much more comfortable, and just as fast. Plus, the core of these cars (engine , drivetrain, suspension) is so much more sound and healthyly engineered, that, once you took care of that initial repair bill (including a new fuel pump, new timing belt/water pump, connecting rod bearings, HVAC, and maybe, with bad luck, new head gaskets), you will only have occasional trouble with little things at the peryphery. Really can't say that of a G or 964. With the S3/S4/GT/GTSes there will be electronic enigmas, but I don't like those models anyway. The 911s up to 996 are total divas in comparison.
If your transmission is slipping there's a problem with it. Cold or not. have you changed the AT filter along with just pouring in new fluid? drain the old fluid out?
@@JAYREAD Well, it's a Mercedes Benz transmission, so that should be a yes. BUT, it's older, so some places may not be familiar with the specifics. The 928 is a peculiar car and old , and even certified Porsche mechanics these days aren't familiar with the peculiarities, and can often fix one thing while messing up another.
Relatively inexpensive fix for actuators. Original Spring that controls the speed of the shift can be swapped at the time of the fix, to make more responsive, sharp shifts… a very inexpensive upgrade to the responsiveness of the transmission!
The automatic and the 5 speeds are two entirely different cars. The earlier cars mostly had manual, which contributed to their popularity. The later cars seemed to go with the automatic transmission, which I suspect contributed to its demise.
So in America what would you say that this car would need for a yearly maintenance just a rough end figure? The prices of Porsche 928 have gone up particularly after covid I don't know why but they have. If I bought one I don't know I would get just a 928s but the Porsche 928 S4 would be a better car but also more money yet is the 928 S4 more reliable or just the same as a 928s?
Ha! It depends! If you have a car like mine that you’re bringing back from deferred maintenance and fixing things up like radiators, new steering rack, water pump, timing belt etc then that’s expensive and I did a video about that so you can see. In fact, I need to do another one soon because abuse that’s gone up! Obviously it’s a lot cheaper if you do the work yourself. They’re not complicated things really so ignore people who tell you that. If, on the other hand, you’ve got a car which enjoys good maintenance then I’m hoping that all it will need every year is an oil change and a new timing belt every five years. They’re pretty robust once they’re up to scratch. Time will tell, I guess! Truly wonderful machines though! A pleasure to own. Worth it.
Buying one SEEMS like a good idea at the time however... while it is an interesting experience to drive and Jay is right they look so cool .... unless you have a ton of money to throw at them the wooden fuse box will keep the electrics dead, the engine will keep you broke and the uncomfortable driving position will have you questioning your sanity.
I think the driving position is one of the best ever. Much better than the Vettes, Jags, Lambos, etc of the time period. You must be decent at testing electrics but it’s not rocket science lol. Like every car that was trying to push the boundaries in the 70’s, it’s complicated. But in a 70’s-80’s way…with the availability of information now, if you can’t figure one of these out chances are you’re not figuring any car out and would need deep pockets regardless
Not true, the driving position is extremely comfortable unless you are a midget. The seats are luxurious and the car feels like its hewn out of a block of granite. The engines are virtually bullet proof, the car is very stable on the road at speed and the auto trans is silky smooth, perfect for a GT. But you are right about the cost of maintenance. Although the parts themselves are cheap, all the peripheral stuff needs constant attention. Factor in spending 1 to 2 x the purchase price over a 10 year period.
IMO the Porsche 928 is one of the most iconic, it was meant to be the successor for the 911, if this 928 do not become a vintage classic car, no car deserves to become classic car !
It's a beautiful vehicle. I almost bought one. But I just don't have the time to be putting into a project car. Spending the money in such an old car, just for fun as a family man, is not financially responsible. Maybe when my kids are much older.
They might be cheap to buy relatively speaking, but don't underestimate running costs which are right up there? If you try and run it on a shoestring you're just banking up problems?
Generally, that’s right although it’s not as bad as all that if you keep on top of things. It’s fixing someone else’s deferred maintenance that costs a lot!
Low mileage 928's aren't cheap though. 928 GTS is far from cheap. Maybe not quite in the 964/993 territory but it's getting closer. Very low mileage GTS's can easily fetch 100K.
Well they aren’t really representative of 928s when there were only a tiny handful that came to the US. 50 or 60 if memory serves? Plenty out there that are VERY cheap. Nearly all of them actually!
lol, 928rus and Roger live up the road from me. Not sure why TH-cam is recommending me this video now. I guess google maps knows where I drive and tattled on me to the algorithm.
@@JAYREAD very nice and helpful, but then he and his shop went MAGA, and lost our support. Businesses need to remain unpolitical, or risk alienating half their customers.
It's not the complexity. My wife's 1992 Toyota Soarer Coupe V8 daily is supremely reliable, and it is far more complex than any 928. Soarer: - V8 quad cam 32V, all alloy, forged internals, 2 x ignition systems - multi mode computer dampers - multi height air suspension - electric everything, including ultrasonic demisting folding mirrors - 3D effect digital dash - and yes in 1992, a circa 10 inch colour touch screen for HVAC, infotainment, navigation, and systen diagnostics (really) - nappa leather everywhere Oh, and that's the mid level model. The high-end model used a hydraulic active suspension coupled to 4WS and a custom agility/stability computer to yield steady state G's for this super lux GT on 225mn factory rubber...equal or better than the contemporary Ferrari hyper car of the day, the F-40. You may know the stripper, poverty pack, LHD US versions of the Soarer sans all the good suspensions and electronics, as the Lexus SC400
No. Whilst I think you can argue there are also other complex cars (your post mainly focuses on this whataboutery), for anyone thinking they can just get into a 928 and fix things easily, it needs pointing out that these are undeniably complex cars. The electrics alone will take hours of fixing - ask me how I know! Add in that there is no OBD2 port and a shed load of deferred maintenance then you have a very complicated car. If it was a 70s MG, you’d have it all done in a day!
A mate of mine has owned I believe, a 1984 SOHC per bank 4 speed auto 928S, since about 1990. This was his dream car, and he paid a fortune for it at the time, but the car has been basically sitting idle and unregistered for two decades. He has plenty of money and the technical qualifications and skills to rebuild any of the mechanicals, but lack of interest. I have often thought of seeking to purchase the car, but lack of appropriate garage space and the amount if time needed to ensure the 928S is debugged and sorted after such a ling hiatus has always put me off.
@@JAYREADI said 2008? It must’ve been 2009. In 2009, they aired a British series called Classic Car Club where they reviewed a 928, claiming that you can get them as low as £3,000. At the same time, they were also airing Wheeler Dealers. They picked up a 928 for £3000 too. These two episodes prompted my husband to scour Craigslist after converting what that is in US dollars. We could have gotten ours for $2800 if the seller could keep the wheels. Not having any spares, we paid the full $3200 asking price.
I know most people would think that oh people found this Porsche from looking online 80s kids looked at dead end from transformers and said oh that car looks nice I want it and that’s how I found them. I love the style of this car. It’s so nice but I feel like dead end. Where is it better just with the yellow stripe and a nice maroon paint job and the nice dark gray headlights and the purple rims. He just pulls it off good and if I were to ever get a Porsche 928 I would get it in Dead end colors
Don’t tempt me, Jay! Don’t tempt me! My wife will wanna kill me, so that big trunk you talked about will come in handy for sleeping with my golf clubs. Cheers!
Like all cars.. if it's not taken care of... = a headache... and funny enough from what I hear, the new 911's are a lot of 928 in them.. So in a way it left it's Mark on Porsche. However, I still say this, why does the gas peddle and steering have to be so heavy? OKAY! I can understand if you are on the autobahn and doing it's top speed, the last thing you want to fast steering so loose control...Yes.. manual ... but sadly they drive the price up by 50% or more... hence my Challenger... but it's the same with Maintenance
“As far as I’m concerned the 928 is alright” Jeremy Clarkson. The man who raced death and won 😢
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I've always adored the 928 for its exquisite looks. Would be my first choice if I was in the market for a sporty car.
Lol. Exquisite? 😹
I think he’s right. Exquisite suits is perfectly for one of the best ever styled cars.
you should mention prices. Give a disclaimer that prices are as at the date of teh video
The 928 is still just pure magic all the way. Perfect long distance GT - fast and comfortable with good value for money. Maintenance is important and not cheap but it is a high end machine with a good collectors future and hence rising prices for a good well maintained one with car history. The engine is still one of the best V8 classcic worldwide with great sound torque power and designed for a long live. What more can one ask for - it's a Porsche at it's best!
The truth!
Glad you have decided to keep your 928. After 8 years it still takes my breath away any time I look at it or drive it...I've dropped 1k into it this year. You have spent a lot of money bringing yours up to standard and taking care of the deferred maintenance is the biggest hurdle. We are truly blessed to have people like Roger that have the parts and advice to keep these great classics on the road. Wishing you many "chocolate " miles as always !
Thanks Frank! Yes, a gorgeous design! Better than the 911 really!
@JAYREAD you see 911s all over the place...when is the last time you saw another 928 on the open road ;)
Great fucking video. I have a Porsche 928 Euro short stick 5 speed with 60k miles on it with a few ownershipt. Awesome machine. I rarely drive it and love this damn car.
Thanks! Agreed!!
A coworker had one with a Chevy LS engine conversion. It was crazy fast.
Good of you to mention Roger Tyson. A good man, who's taken care of our 928s for 20 years.
Aye, he’s a good lad!
The 928 is not cheap. It is a very complex automobile, I have own 4 in my lifetime, there are just a few with low mileage. So, be careful because repairs and maintenance are not cheap. The last one I kept is a 1988 S4. Love it. Most of its life has been in the garage. Is now passing to my son. I drive a newer 4S Carrera and still, every time I take out the 928 can not be anything else but impressed. What a car! Impressive but not cheap to maintain.
Great post! Fully agree with you!
Yes...there is nothing more expensive than buying a cheap 928 that has not been maintained by previous owners.
They're one of the easiest and most straightforward Porsches to work on, and the water-cooled engine is much simpler to keep running than its air-cooled predecessors. Yeah, if you have them serviced by a dealer, you'll go broke. But they're...remarkably reliable, for German cars. The 928 is probably one of Porsche's most reliable. Mileage doesn't mean much, when it comes to maintaining them. The 928's V8 is all but bulletproof, can last easily into the 200k range, and either gearbox can be rebuilt every 150-200k miles or so, properly maintained. It's a work of a art, both in the overall design and the engineering. Fabulous work from Porsche's engineers. It has the period's electrical gremlins, and the prior-owner propensity to both lead-foot and burn it dry of oil, but they're not even among the most expensive Germans of the era to maintain - even if you're taking them to the dealer. They're fabulous cars. Not a huge fan of Porsche, but it's one of the best pieces of machinery from the 80s and 90s, easily. And certainly one of the most reliable Euro cars - and that's not even considering its performance as front-engine, the new water-cooled engine, the stellar automatic gearbox alongside the stick, light curb weight, incredible handling for a street car of the era, etc.
Apart from that, it's just the old car and Euro tax, as maintaining them goes. And they're far from the worst offender even I've ever owned.
And you can stand out from the sea of 911s in Fairfield County.
True that!
Even in a sea of 911s I still want a 911
@@enjoyradiosilenceWhy? Aside from the Turbo and track oriented versions they are pretty dorky. They don't have the muscle a 928 has.
@@chesswizard31 tell me you don’t get it without saying “I dont get it” 🤣
@@enjoyradiosilence I had an SC. I get it, but I don't get the boomers who hype them up. They are too common to be interesting, unless they are one of the aforementioned models. If money was no object I'd have a 924CGT before another 911.
Cars like that are lifelong partners, even with it's headaches, it's still worth it down the line
As someone once said, " As much as I'm concerned... the 928 is alright"
He got that right!
I owned one for fourteen years, engine bullet proof and I loved the car but I had 3 cars and one company car so one had to go. If I had the money now I would by a 1995 GTS the most beautiful of the lot.
The 911 is the poorman's 928
928s are daily drivers - no unique maintenance issues. Only sports car to win European Car of the Year
Hear me out if you’re thinking about buying one of these…you need to be committed and handy with a wrench. This car is better than the 911 in almost every way, and the numbers back it up. Fastest Porsche in 1984? No, not the Turbo 930, it was the euro spec 928.
Link to articles with that info, please!
I have a '84 Euro S2 5-sp in my garage. Interior out now, getting some refreshment. Still need to replace fuel lines, new alternator, and a list of other stuff before I drive it any more than the around the block a few times after I acquired it.
Thanks, you just helped me decide to get an 84 with a 5-speed. The guy only wants $2k for it
Oh man! That’s a steal! Glad to have helped! Write back and tell me what it’s like!
Cause I'am blinded by 928 love I can't see cons😊. Good luck Jay with your blue shark
I love the design, and the pop up frog lights. I am searching for one, as I could afford to buy one cash now. My current vehicle, and the ones before were paid with monthly payments, I made to the dealership. The reason I want one is, because I had a 1987 Porsche 928, back in the summer of 1993, which was given to me as a gift. The person who gave me the vehicle asked to borrow it, and he totaled it drunk driving. I believe it was soon after the Northridge earthquake... 😢😢😢
Ha! Me neither!
What a pivotal moment in car design ,both the interior and exterior - like it came from out of space , even I could tell that as an 8 year old in 1978
I couldn’t agree with you more!
That's one of my fave things about it - look at other cars being made then, and cars around the early 2000s - that whole design was a decade ahead of its time, and it's aged remarkably well.
Love the 928. Been my #1 car since I was 21 yrs old. My boss had a 79 928 5 spd. Guards red. He let me take it out and drive it without him in the car. What a awesome car. Test drove several over the years the fastest was a 5 spd 1985 model. Slow by todays standards. I never bought one … yet.
Being 60 yrs old now I am looking to get one to park it next to my 1981 Trans Am Pace car.
Knowing what I know now and being very mechanically inclined. I will do a LS swap on a 84 and newer 928. I looked at and rode in a 86 928 that was LS engine swapped with 400 hp to the wheels. That’s 500 flywheel hp.
What a car and it was done right. I know the Porsche purist will hate hearing that but that’s my plan.
Why am I going with a 84 and up. Well all 928s from 1977-1983.5 have aluminum ball joints. I can’t believe Porsche did that. I know they can be changed out but that’s just one less thing I have to worry about. Besides I like the 84 and up 928s compared to the earlier ones.
So I will be looking for one with engine issues which should be easy to find. As the majority of these cars have been neglected.
Brilliant post! Thanks for posting! I say make it your own. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks, particularly if you’re saving one from the scrapper. Write back and let me know ow your progress!
@@JAYREAD I will
definitely let you know. Thanks and I appreciate your 928 videos . Very good content !
@@mattspontiactathanks! Wait till you see the next one! The first EVER Porsche 928 built and the 2nd and the 4th all in one place on video for the first time! Stay tuned!
Sure you should buy one? Of course! Just a couple prerequisites. Have a super skilled and trustworthy mechanic or wrench on it yourself. They're complex, not a car to let your brother in-law the shade tree mechanic replace your water pump. Get the best one you can find, later S4s or GTS. From 95 to 98 l leased a manual GTS and loved it. A great car for long trips. During the early 90s they had worked most of the kinks out and it might have been the best high speed tourer on the market. The biggest prerequisite is money. This isn't a car you can maintain on a shoestring budget and even if your a highly skilled mechanic and can sidestep the labor cost parts are very expensive so come to terms with $5-10k repair bills.
Ioved this car from beginning production to the end and actually like the initial cloth interior.
Same.
I love the design, and the pop up frog lights. I am searching for one, as I could afford to buy one cash now. My current vehicle, and the ones before were paid with monthly payments, I made to the dealership. The reason I want one is, because I had a 1987 Porsche 928, back in the summer of 1993, which was given to me as a gift. The person who gave me the vehicle asked to borrow it, and he totaled it drunk driving. I believe it was soon after the Northridge earthquake... 😢😢😢
Oh no! That’s a sad story! Glad you’re making up for it now though!
@@JAYREADYes..😞 I want an exactly same year, and model. 1987 Euro.. The color was bronze, but I think that color is a bit cheesy. I'm searching for a grand prix white.🤩
@@eva5601 PERFECT!
I enjoy my 83 Euro manual, 25 years now.
I have a 1982 Euro S.
4:41 That completely caught me off guard. Thanks for the laugh. 😂
Hahaha!
I'm glad I bought a 944 S2, because it's so simple and easy to work on. If I ever decide to part with it, I'll look for a 928 S4.
Different kind of car but you’ll love it!
I have an 88S4 (106k) and a of people think low miles are the best. NOT necessarily true.They need to be driven so all wires/ hoses do not dry out..this how fires can be started. Records are good as well. Drive and enjoy
I reckon you’re spot on! I plan to drive mine as much as I can! Thank you!
Douglas Barder! Holy cow what a referance!
The looks make it super tempting.
I think you have made that a lovely car, Jay!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thank you!
I live in Northen California USA. I just found a 1984 with 120,000 miles garaged the majority of time. It comes with an automatic transmission. Is the 1984 928 comes with 3 or 4 speed transmission? Any info will be appreciated...
Hopefully is not sold in the coming days as I'm putting some money together and get it.
Back in the 90's one of the chefs at the restaurant I used to work had one and always loved it. I told myself some day I will have one of those...
4 speed. DO IT! ❤️
Cool thanks mate...
Either a Pacific Blue Metallic or a Platinum Metallic would suit me perfectly. Now fit it with a fresh Pasha velour interior and I'd be in heaven. Still in love after all of these years.
Do it! Haha!
I had a S4 manual and I guess I would have an automatic now. But you need a kick down switch for this box.
Best car shape ever penned. Bar none.
Love this!
@@JAYREAD Ferrari has nothing on this.
I love the 928, but that comment is just absurd. Nowhere near the best shape.
@@stanleymasterson1135 Its called an OPINION.
@@feralmale1517 Yes, and yours indicates you've never seen any other vehicle
I have a great memory of my 928... a gorgeous chiffon cream color with cognac brown leather interior, it was an automatic 4 speed that o only had 24,000 miles on it when I sold it to buy a house in the 80s. Mine had the blauplunkt radio with amplifier with the short wave, which made listening to radio free Europe a fun hobby. I must say it turned heads and anytime you stopped to get gas or to run iinto a store, people would say "nice car" it was a beautiful sexy car everywhere i went it got noticed because it stood out as a subtle sports car that looked so different from the rest of the 80s cars on the road. I loved driving it then when I was young and successful. Now I other priorities and the 928 is just a memory. ❤
Those things all still happen even now! The looks are still outrageous. Here’s the thing though: they are MUCH cheaper now. You could get another one!
I've just bitten the bullet and bought an '88 S4 with a genuine 55000 miles with full service history backing it up. Needs the cambelt changed which is £820 though, but it could be worse.
No deferred maintenance, clean examples, service history & getting it checked by an expert…GTS 93-95 is the pick…manual or auto…
The 928 needs a lot of "care" to keep it in good condition or a lot of $$ to bring it back up to speed.
But its an amazing looking drivind feeling car
You’re telling me! Haha!
Timing belts and tune ups are a deal breaker.
I don’t know what you mean.
@@JAYREAD The car is a bitch to own and work on..I had a buddy buy one new in 88 and it was a pos..🤔👍
I worked at Scooterman in London many years ago and had a work mate who had one of those. I was driving a VW golf with drunk customers, Hoooray Henrys who previously had been delivered by workmate with Porsche. They were convinced he was telling porkies. They were explaining to me how the last scooterman was telling them obout his Porsche. I explained he paid way less than their sad Golf and giggled a bit... Laughed out loud kind of giggling. No tip. :(
Love my S4!....nice job
I owned one
Great drive ..fun car
Eye watering maintenance costs
1000 for a timing belt
Ac systems weak
On and on
Not reasons not to get one! Haha!
Thanks for a well considered analysis. Based in the uk, in 1984 I bought a modest house for 32k, some one paid 35k for my 928. My gripe with the 928, and to be fair probably other models is the price premium for the word Porsche. I have found that ingunuity is the key to curbing cost. Typical example is the gearbox sump gasket is under half price from Mercedes direct. Does Porsche really need to double the cost? Multiply that across the car and it makes a difference.
Electrical gremlins, Bosch relays are not reliable. I traced several issues to failed relay coil windings in the relays. Polish all switch contacts, including relays, they tarnish badly, I wonder if there is a volatile sulphide from the acres of leather ?
Very much agree with the Porsche tax although I will say that there is no other car on the market with a depreciation curve like a Porsche. They’re remarkable really. Don’t talk to me about the bloody 928 electrics! Hateful system! Lol!
@@JAYREADEver been tempted to change to a PDU based system? There is a lot of complexity which was pioneering in its time but no one would do now. The essential starting point has to be the right wiring diagram in the manual, Greg Nicols web site and a healthy dose of bloodyminded determination!
@johnsherborne3245 That would probably be even MORE complicated to figure out!
@@JAYREAD yes and no, the ability of the Pdu to replicate most of the rats nest of a fuse board is peerless, plus the diagnostic ability. Most circuits are intrinsically simple, what complicates is the relay logic. Most of the engine management functions are easily replicated in a motec unit. I’ve been tempted, but I also have other projects that demand time more urgently.
My 1986 Porsche 928s 32v 5speed timing belt (EPDM type) and water pump, rollers... etc are over 20 years old last replaced in 2003 and if it snaps a Tesla motor conversion. Almost 200k miles and still going strong and same color as yours. I refused a $28000 offer.
Ha! Nice!
Agree on all points. Roger is an excellent resource for knowledge *and* parts. While you can dump a ton of money into a 928, much of the “maintenance” is just that; replacing and maintaining ~40 year old deteriorated parts. My advice would be to buy the best-maintained one you can find and keep that maintenance going.
❤️ Yup! Agreed!
Seems you got the full leather option which I think cost around an extra $5K. Leather is a pain to maintain, but is really nice. Edit: Isee further in the video, you don't have the full leather interior - at least the headliner is vinyl.
How can you tell it’s vinyl? I’ll have a look.
@@JAYREAD the texture. Many of the cars had certain leather parts, such as the seats, but other parts such as the headliner and other trim pieces like the rear quarter panels were vinyl. I could be wrong about your car, but the way to tell is if there is a texture(which I saw in your headliner) it's vinyl. The leather is smooth.
The early uk cars had the leather dash as standard from what read that then became an expensive option. You could get leather seats but that did not include the dash unless paid extra
Well done.
As with many things, boats, cars, marriage its not the cost of entry but the upkeep the will break you.
I’m still crawling under my 928 Jay, my video I hope towards the end of Fall.
Cool! Keep going!
I jumped forward and recognized Cannondale Station just from the parking lot!
Aha! You live round here?
I grew up at the corner of Cannondale and Cannon Roads. My parents still live there and I visit every month or so.
@@JML42 Wow! Small world!
I take it you live near the village too?
I've had Mint mobile for over 4 years now. Love it!
Good video. This is a topic that I think too many people don't fully understand before making purchases, and it ofyen.comes back to bite them.
Too many people get focused primarily on the purchase price and base their budget around that figure. Huge mistake! My philosophy is take the purchase price and then 2.5x that number. That will give you a more realistic budget to get the car running reliably.
I would say a common 928 you see for sale is a $40k. What I mean by this is no matter what neglected 928 you buy, it will cost $40k to have a reliable one. So if you buy a $20k example, expect to put $20k into it. If you buy a $15k example, expect to put in $25k.
With that said, you have to plan it out properly, too, or it will get even more expensive. Do as much as you can all at once....not onesy-twosy repairs here and there. I'm even a huge fan of pulling the engine and transmission so that everything can be inspected and replaced as needed.
I'm making a video series on a 2005 330i ZHP with 218K miles that I'm restoring. I'm documenting the process. I'll be revealing all the parts I've already bought for it. None of the parts are going on this car until the engine and transmission come out.
Great post! Fully agree!
FYI Douglas Bader was a WW2 British ace who lost both legs in the war. The Germans let the British fly over and drop him some prosthetic legs. He strapped them on and shortly later tried to escape with them.
He lost his legs in 1931 before the war.
I always find the 928 first model is better than its 2nd model solely bc I love & prefer its tail/rear light than the latter
Yes, much agree. They rounded out too many of the edges with the S4 onwards IMHO.
The purity of the lines on the early car compared with the S4 and GTS has always been a talking point that can get heated. I've just bought a S4 and just love it.
To be clear, I’d be perfectly happy with an S4 too! Haha!
If I had a later style, it would have to be a GT. Prefer the OB and S styling though!
The 928 is still suffering from the circular curse of cheap to buy expensive to own. People who don't have the money to restore them buy them and then pass them on once they realise. They won't invest in the car out of fear of resale values not returning on their investment. Wrong owners with the wrong cars. Those who can do restore these and experience what marvelously impressive cars they actually are. This might offend some viewers/owners, but Porsche bending over to the emissions regulations and building neutered versions for the US no doubt drags down the model. Nobody wants a US-spec version by choice, they are strangled to all hell. They are NOT the genuine experience. For that you need a Euro-spec version. The sooner more of the junk US-spec examples get parted out to keep the great examples on the road the better.
Your car is a nice one, Jay. On your gearbox though, something or several things must not be set-up correctly. It's pretty common. Even the 3-speed is fast in a Euro S when working correctly. Yes, really.
I agree to some point. I think by the S3 US spec cars were ok. I drove a US ‘85 5sp 32v car in high school and it pulled like a freight train. Now I have 2 euro spec 5 speeds and wouldn’t have it any other way. I can’t even look at the US cars the same way anymore with the ugly side markers in front/behind the wheels or the bumprettes
The 928 came out at a time when I was just starting to get interested in cars and it was quite amazing, futuristic looks and the technology. Over time it has become a car that I love seeing others own and care for (like Jay) but it has dropped far down the list of cars that I'd desire to own.
I get that. You know, there are lots and lots of cars that I love seeing and I am so glad exist in the world and that people care for them that I have no desire to own. It’s all about the passion, I reckon. If people are happy and they own something lovely and they are passionate about it then that makes me happy too. Cheers!
928s are not more expensive to maintain than 911s. It's just the low market value that makes people think twice about big investments.
Actually, they are far superior to the stock G-models of the time from a driving perspective: Much more predictable, much more comfortable, and just as fast.
Plus, the core of these cars (engine , drivetrain, suspension) is so much more sound and healthyly engineered, that, once you took care of that initial repair bill (including a new fuel pump, new timing belt/water pump, connecting rod bearings, HVAC, and maybe, with bad luck, new head gaskets), you will only have occasional trouble with little things at the peryphery. Really can't say that of a G or 964.
With the S3/S4/GT/GTSes there will be electronic enigmas, but I don't like those models anyway.
The 911s up to 996 are total divas in comparison.
Ha! Great post! I feel better now!
If your transmission is slipping there's a problem with it. Cold or not. have you changed the AT filter along with just pouring in new fluid? drain the old fluid out?
I think its tired. Yes to both.
@@JAYREAD , may want to get the hydraulic actuators checked. the early cars, pre 87 or 89 (forget which) seemed to have had some issues...
@@vince71362 Ah thanks. Could a regular transmission shop do that for me?
@@JAYREAD Well, it's a Mercedes Benz transmission, so that should be a yes. BUT, it's older, so some places may not be familiar with the specifics. The 928 is a peculiar car and old , and even certified Porsche mechanics these days aren't familiar with the peculiarities, and can often fix one thing while messing up another.
Relatively inexpensive fix for actuators. Original Spring that controls the speed of the shift can be swapped at the time of the fix, to make more responsive, sharp shifts… a very inexpensive upgrade to the responsiveness of the transmission!
The automatic and the 5 speeds are two entirely different cars. The earlier cars mostly had manual, which contributed to their popularity. The later cars seemed to go with the automatic transmission, which I suspect contributed to its demise.
Would someone 6’3 be able to drive this comfortably ish?
Yup! Plenty of space. I’m 6 foot and there’s more travel in the seat than I need. A lot more actually.
So in America what would you say that this car would need for a yearly maintenance just a rough end figure? The prices of Porsche 928 have gone up particularly after covid I don't know why but they have. If I bought one I don't know I would get just a 928s but the Porsche 928 S4 would be a better car but also more money yet is the 928 S4 more reliable or just the same as a 928s?
Ha! It depends! If you have a car like mine that you’re bringing back from deferred maintenance and fixing things up like radiators, new steering rack, water pump, timing belt etc then that’s expensive and I did a video about that so you can see. In fact, I need to do another one soon because abuse that’s gone up! Obviously it’s a lot cheaper if you do the work yourself. They’re not complicated things really so ignore people who tell you that.
If, on the other hand, you’ve got a car which enjoys good maintenance then I’m hoping that all it will need every year is an oil change and a new timing belt every five years. They’re pretty robust once they’re up to scratch. Time will tell, I guess! Truly wonderful machines though! A pleasure to own. Worth it.
Such a nice ca4 but i am afraid of the costs to have it 🤷🏻♂️
Feel the fear and do it anyway!
@@JAYREAD Thought too often like this 😂
It’s my next project car I’m hoping I can save up in time before it becomes to expensive
Great stuff, brother!
I have a red Porsche 928 S4 under 100k miles for £25k or 31k dollars if you are really looking for one
@EonixEditz don’t know yet!
Big 944 fan. What's your opinion of the Panamera?
I like it a lot actually. Super comfortable and quite sporty too, especially with the larger engines. I did a video on one. Take a look!
Hi Jay,They are great,But! Maintenance if anyone knows I do,they are a true GT even today
Corpse is intersting😅😃
Cheers
Frank
Cheers Frank!
Buying one SEEMS like a good idea at the time however... while it is an interesting experience to drive and Jay is right they look so cool .... unless you have a ton of money to throw at them the wooden fuse box will keep the electrics dead, the engine will keep you broke and the uncomfortable driving position will have you questioning your sanity.
I think the driving position is one of the best ever. Much better than the Vettes, Jags, Lambos, etc of the time period. You must be decent at testing electrics but it’s not rocket science lol. Like every car that was trying to push the boundaries in the 70’s, it’s complicated. But in a 70’s-80’s way…with the availability of information now, if you can’t figure one of these out chances are you’re not figuring any car out and would need deep pockets regardless
Not true, the driving position is extremely comfortable unless you are a midget. The seats are luxurious and the car feels like its hewn out of a block of granite. The engines are virtually bullet proof, the car is very stable on the road at speed and the auto trans is silky smooth, perfect for a GT. But you are right about the cost of maintenance. Although the parts themselves are cheap, all the peripheral stuff needs constant attention. Factor in spending 1 to 2 x the purchase price over a 10 year period.
Nope. Disagree. The car is very comfortable. If you buy the right one it won't be a money pit.
@@landonbarretto4933 Classic, its a bit like, if you find the right girlfriend you will be a happy man
What’s the deal with the wooden fuse box?
Still looks like it's a 2024 car..it looks just stunning
IMO the Porsche 928 is one of the most iconic, it was meant to be the successor for the 911, if this 928 do not become a vintage classic car, no car deserves to become classic car !
Exactly!
the 5.0L V8 car has the same 0-60 and 1/4 mile time as a ford focus st.
LOL! That’s actually faster than I thought!
And you'd rather have the Focus. Look at you
@@drobson8004 nope id take the Porsche. Been looking to buy one for years. But 80s cars are so damn slow.
It’s not slow.
@@JAYREAD ok good point. th-cam.com/video/XiLc7GvmS_A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qH3LVKYOMhma-oYv
I'm going to try to make it to the tail in Oct.
Where in Ohio are you? I'm from the Cincy area.
Cool! I’m in CT actually!
It's a beautiful vehicle. I almost bought one. But I just don't have the time to be putting into a project car. Spending the money in such an old car, just for fun as a family man, is not financially responsible. Maybe when my kids are much older.
I hear you! Haha!
They might be cheap to buy relatively speaking, but don't underestimate running costs which are right up there? If you try and run it on a shoestring you're just banking up problems?
Generally, that’s right although it’s not as bad as all that if you keep on top of things. It’s fixing someone else’s deferred maintenance that costs a lot!
Low mileage 928's aren't cheap though. 928 GTS is far from cheap. Maybe not quite in the 964/993 territory but it's getting closer. Very low mileage GTS's can easily fetch 100K.
Well they aren’t really representative of 928s when there were only a tiny handful that came to the US. 50 or 60 if memory serves? Plenty out there that are VERY cheap. Nearly all of them actually!
I just found one of these sitting in a lot and im planning on asking to buy it i just wanna know if it is worth it
Do it!
lol, 928rus and Roger live up the road from me. Not sure why TH-cam is recommending me this video now. I guess google maps knows where I drive and tattled on me to the algorithm.
Love Roger! Very nice bloke and a pillar of the 928 community! Welcome to the show!
@@JAYREAD very nice and helpful, but then he and his shop went MAGA, and lost our support. Businesses need to remain unpolitical, or risk alienating half their customers.
Not to hijack the comments section, but where do all you 928 guys live? I'm in SW MI and would love to see some cars and meet some fellow owners.
Hijack away! I’m in CT!
@@JAYREAD That's a haul! Nice twin dizzy.
Beautiful car.
Thanks!
Did your Porsche come with Rebecca De Mornay?
Yes I have since traded her in for a new model though.
It's not the complexity.
My wife's 1992 Toyota Soarer Coupe V8 daily is supremely reliable, and it is far more complex than any 928.
Soarer:
- V8 quad cam 32V, all alloy, forged internals, 2 x ignition systems
- multi mode computer dampers
- multi height air suspension
- electric everything, including ultrasonic demisting folding mirrors
- 3D effect digital dash
- and yes in 1992, a circa 10 inch colour touch screen for HVAC, infotainment, navigation, and systen diagnostics (really)
- nappa leather everywhere
Oh, and that's the mid level model. The high-end model used a hydraulic active suspension coupled to 4WS and a custom agility/stability computer to yield steady state G's for this super lux GT on 225mn factory rubber...equal or better than the contemporary Ferrari hyper car of the day, the F-40.
You may know the stripper, poverty pack, LHD US versions of the Soarer sans all the good suspensions and electronics, as the Lexus SC400
No. Whilst I think you can argue there are also other complex cars (your post mainly focuses on this whataboutery), for anyone thinking they can just get into a 928 and fix things easily, it needs pointing out that these are undeniably complex cars. The electrics alone will take hours of fixing - ask me how I know! Add in that there is no OBD2 port and a shed load of deferred maintenance then you have a very complicated car. If it was a 70s MG, you’d have it all done in a day!
A mate of mine has owned I believe, a 1984 SOHC per bank 4 speed auto 928S, since about 1990.
This was his dream car, and he paid a fortune for it at the time, but the car has been basically sitting idle and unregistered for two decades. He has plenty of money and the technical qualifications and skills to rebuild any of the mechanicals, but lack of interest.
I have often thought of seeking to purchase the car, but lack of appropriate garage space and the amount if time needed to ensure the 928S is debugged and sorted after such a ling hiatus has always put me off.
How tall are you?
6ft
The most expensive 928 you’ll own, is a cheap 928. Find an nice one, it will be worth it! 🔥🔥
So true. There is nothing more expensive than a cheap 928
I’d have another one . Bought mine 20years ago almost identical to this one for 3k 😮 I should never have sold it 😢!
Oh man! Yes, get another one!
Hey Jay is there something up with your Instagram it seems to have disappeared!
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I have a 944 and i can tell…it’s not a cheap car to have😅parts are verry expencive
Yeah man!
I totally love the 928…and thats coming from a former 911 owner.
Same and same!
$12,000? Our 1985 928 cost $3200 back in 2008.
I am late to the party as ever!
@@JAYREADI said 2008? It must’ve been 2009. In 2009, they aired a British series called Classic Car Club where they reviewed a 928, claiming that you can get them as low as £3,000. At the same time, they were also airing Wheeler Dealers. They picked up a 928 for £3000 too. These two episodes prompted my husband to scour Craigslist after converting what that is in US dollars. We could have gotten ours for $2800 if the seller could keep the wheels. Not having any spares, we paid the full $3200 asking price.
Never ending money pit I have mine for 25 years - I could have bought a brand new electric car for what it has cost me but I would never sell it
It’s kinda like herpes. It acts up, but u never get rid of it.
エンジンはトヨタの2GRエンジンに積み替えてメンテナンスフリーを目指したい。
まだその準備ができていません！ でも、それは良い選択肢です！ もし私がLSエンジンを搭載しなかったら、おそらくアメリカ人は私を殺すでしょう！ あはは！
It might be fairly cheap to buy , but it's still a Porsche to maintain.
You are telling me!
I remember in 77 my dad had a 75 911 s he raced a 78 928 the 928 smoked the 911
Yeee hah!
I know most people would think that oh people found this Porsche from looking online 80s kids looked at dead end from transformers and said oh that car looks nice I want it and that’s how I found them. I love the style of this car. It’s so nice but I feel like dead end. Where is it better just with the yellow stripe and a nice maroon paint job and the nice dark gray headlights and the purple rims. He just pulls it off good and if I were to ever get a Porsche 928 I would get it in Dead end colors
12k ?! I see them around here for 2500-10k
Get one immediately then!
Don’t tempt me, Jay! Don’t tempt me! My wife will wanna kill me, so that big trunk you talked about will come in handy for sleeping with my golf clubs. Cheers!
Still sorry I sold mine
Surprised! I thought you had gone to the dark side, motorcycles?
Ha! I’m doing both the light and the dark sides now!
Theres 19 grounds !
Yup!
Like all cars.. if it's not taken care of... = a headache... and funny enough from what I hear, the new 911's are a lot of 928 in them.. So in a way it left it's Mark on Porsche. However, I still say this, why does the gas peddle and steering have to be so heavy? OKAY! I can understand if you are on the autobahn and doing it's top speed, the last thing you want to fast steering so loose control...Yes.. manual ... but sadly they drive the price up by 50% or more... hence my Challenger... but it's the same with Maintenance
These cars are now between 30 and 45 years old, good examples belong in museums not on the road!
No car should not be driven !! It’s what it was made for and serves no purpose sitting
Jeremy Clarkson brought me here.
Lol!
Me too. ❤
most of the car is ok but that back side is just hideous.
What am i missing, its like your girl friend who never changed her wardrobe from the 80s, And still thinks she is hot
She IS still hot, it’s just that you’ve missed it.
i would buy one, the chicken was still warm.
❤️
….and my dad was still alive.
Thanks...but I'm still a 718 dreamer!
This has some touch of Miata