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- Canadian historian Dan Gibson has uncovered startling new archaeological evidence that Mecca was not the original Holy City of Islam. Petra, by contrast with Mecca, was a major trade centre from early on, and fits all the geographical descriptions in the traditional histories.
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The more I listen to Dr. Dan Gibson the more I respect him.He is asking the right questions.He is doing what each one of us ought to do.See, religion was handed down to us and we were not there when these events were taking place.Should we swallow everything that is handed down to us without asking ourselves whether it is true or not?
Muslims dont read they live by hes saying and Thats why they cant ask questions But time is changing and Allah is exposing they lies they did also change menings when they translate Quran and saudi royal has to accept they translated Quran
He is not "doctor" he is an amateur
@kasel55, the "amateur" can read, write, and do research. He presents compelling evidence. In the study of dinosaurs, the "amateur" Ray Sanford is a top self-taught intellectual. Innovative thought comes from independent scholars. Their ideas are often laughed at by established inteligentsia who blocked their ideas like they did with heliocentrism, germ theory, plate tectonics.... Evidence is what Dan Brown is presenting. You, too, can refute his arguments. Write your paper.
Your suspicious about Qiblah is not correct as it was diverted during Profit Mohamed prayer in Madinah city by God orders not by Profit will, that is the truth
Al batraa has a name and location for people mentioned in Quraan named Aad people ,so it is not evidence if later masjed Qiblah consides in that zone .
Regards for your efforts, but you have to know our history from Muslims only not from weird books.
@@kasel55Are you feeling shameless?
Mr. Gibson. is a courageous man to whom l am in debt to his contribution to the spirit of Mohammed, It is Such a challenge for Muslims to be conscious of awareness of their faith and its origin. no longer can we be just followers without personal awareness. choice in taking these facts and reconsidering the direction of prayer is present to all Muslims. the black stone gives you that blackness, nothingness, whereas in Petraa, one has the cave the angle. light and illumination, thank you Dan
Don’t you wonder why your faith leaders have been hiding this from you? I recommend including secular sources into one’s historical understanding of their religion, bc they lack the bias religious sources are rigidly defined by; so secular sources are the best ways to learn about which aspects/facts are supported by evidence from science, arts, archaeology, literature/texts, etc.; and what things are simply claimed, & not facts… bc there’s no proof? Actually, there’s alot of contra- indications for things stated in the Quran, & long believed by Muslims re: early Islam… which more reliable & trustworthy, validated, sources disprove or suggest are highly doubtful. Sad to see Islamic leaders ignore issues in Islam history, & more willing to indoctrinate followers than promote critical thinking & thorough comprehension of the text & ancient culture… rather than memorization & rigid judgmental rules for modern life. In a book w/ SO many outrageously false statements about the Bible, Jesus, & Judaism/Christianity (which followers are unaware of), as well as an invented, edited, AND covered-up early history of its own origin/past (which adherents are ALSo unaware of), and violent, hatefilled language… as well as weird, deviant, disgusting sexual practices which were created by Mohammed for his own self interests & the later caliphs changed to hell theirs… as they don’t align with the few ancient texts that describe the daily life of oldest followers of Mohammed- which has lead to horrific implications in today’s world- and ppl think their god is judgmental & suggests they carry out violence & mistreatment of his “chosen” ppl (which is completely irrational) and has subjugated & ruined/tormented lives of many faithful Muslims today… all bc of the corruption of earliest caliphs trying to make a nee state. It’s sick. Ppl should know what they believe & haha e their questions answered… not be tricked & “convinced” or manipulated to believe something is translated to day a barely different word, & the most “easy to understand book in the world” requires SOOO much nuance & knowledge? Really?! NO. ITS BC THE BOOK ISNT CLEAR, nor was it written by Mohammed or anyone in his close circle.
PLEASE Muslims- look at secular sources to confirm answers, & use ur critical thinking Bc Islam doesn’t hint at being truthful, just a man’s attempt to get rich & get his kinks fulfilled. God should be Love & Peace. IMO. Read the New Testament. ❤️
I think this is a pretty strong case as the description of "Mecca" in the Quran was baffling given the state of it now and having no archeological record prior to Islam. "Mecca" is described as being:
-In a Valley, with mountains overlooking the Kaa'ba
-With a stream (not a well, actual running water)
-With fields, trees, fruit, and loam
-A center of trade
Mecca is a desert wasteland and as shown in this documentary, has no archeological or botanical history. There isn't even a dried out stream bed to show for. Looking over the Qiblas myself, I think this is a pretty strong case for Petra being the original place of worship.
Simply wow! Dan , the more i listen, the more I am impress , you did your homework really well. Hopefully Muslims scholars will listen to you but its difficult to break a rock headed people , they will believe what they wanted to believe .
This is the documentary I was wishing to find, as late as yesterday. THANKS A LOT!
Such an important work. Masterful. Many thanks.
Religions never let the truth get in the way of a good business
The Bible is the most accurately transmitted book from the ancient world. No other ancient book has as many, as early, or more accurately copied manuscripts. Old Testament >>Old Testament manuscript reliability is based on three factors: their abundance, dating, and accuracy. Most works from antiquity survive on only a handful of manuscripts: only 7 for Plato, 8 for Thucydides, 8 for Herodotus, 10 for Caesar’s Gallic Wars, and 20 for Tacitus. Only the works of Demosthenes and Homer number into the hundreds. Yet even before 1890 a scholar named Giovanni de Rossi published 731 OT manuscripts. Since that time some 10,000 OT manuscripts were found in the Cairo Geniza, and in 1947 the Dead Sea caves at Qumran produced over 600 OT manuscripts. Further, the Dead Sea Scrolls, containing at least fragments of all OT books except Esther, all date from before the end of the first century A.D. and some to the third century B.C. The Nash Papyrus is dated between the second century B.C. and the first century A.D.The manuscripts’ accuracy is known from internal and external evidence. (1) It is well known that Jewish scribal reverence for Scripture led to its careful transmission. (2) Examination of duplicate passages (e.g., Pss 14 and 53) show parallel transmission. (3) The early Greek translation of the OT, the Septuagint, substantially agrees with the Hebrew manuscripts. (4) Comparison of the Samaritan Pentateuch with the same biblical books preserved within the Jewish tradition shows close similarity. (5) The Dead Sea Scrolls provide manuscripts dating a thousand years earlier than most used to establish the Hebrew text. Comparative studies reveal word-for-word identity in 95 percent of the text. Minor variants consist mostly of slips of the pen or spelling. Only 13 small changes were discovered in the entire Dead Sea Scrolls copy of Isaiah, eight of which were known from other-ancient sources. After 1,000 years of copying, there were no changes in meaning and almost no changes in wording! >>New Testament >>> The reliability of the NT is established because the number, date, and accuracy of its manuscripts enable reconstruction of the original text with more precision than any other ancient text. The number of NT manuscripts is overwhelming (almost 5,700 Greek manuscripts) compared with the typical book from antiquity (about 7 to 10 manuscripts; Homer’s Iliad has the most at 643 manuscripts). The NT is simply the best textually supported book from the ancient world. The earliest undisputed NT manuscript is the John Rylands Papyrus, dated between A.D. 117 and 138. Whole books (e.g., those contained in the Bodmer Papyri) are available from around the year 200. And most of the NT, including all the Gospels, is available in the Chester Beatty Papyri manuscripts, dating to about 250.
@@jeffsmith3019 The Torah is a record of the mythology of the ancient Hebrews. The Tanakh as a whole is a handbook for racial supremacy. Whether it has been transmitted accurately is a moot point.
@@Simon.the.Likeableour Bible is okay as it is! You can say what you want! Do your research about your fake Muhammad and Islam!
@@Simon.the.Likeable after what I had posted your statement can only be construed as the 'height of ignorance and stupidity '.
Thank you very much it was a great effort.
Excllent documentary and amazing research for truth.
Great work Mr. Gibson. The preponderance of the evidence favors that the "The Forbidden City" was Petra and that Becca was the original Qibla direction and the Abbasids changed it to Mecca where the Black Rock had been moved to.
Peace be upon you... This video contains theories that lack evidences and d documentation sources. .Ibrahim Jordan
@@imfz4444
I just received Dan Gibson's latest book "Let the Stones Speak." It is very well documented. Again I think the preponderance of the archaeology, historical records, the timeline of events and the lack of archeological evidence at Mecca almost conclusively support Dan Gibson's findings. Will it change the minds of many Mohammadans, probably not. But for me I always seek reality above the traditions of men. A good example of this is that the traditional Mt. Sinai is not in the Sinai Peninsula, but is in Median that is today in northwest Saudia Arabia.
Make sense. I'm more inclined to believe Dan Gibson is correct.
@@imfz4444 there never was mecca south before islam was born 8th century
@@imfz4444your opinion? Save it!
I watched this presentation some time ago and it reminded me of a book by Sr Richard Burton, an Englishman, written in the 1800s. He was fluent in Arabic and studied Islam. He impersonated a Muslim and made the pilgrimage to mecca. He noted that the geography of mecca in the Koran didn't correspond in any way to that of mecca in Arabia. This would explain why.
I have read many comments made by some defending Islam here and I see people who think their faith must remain unchecked. If I were them, I would take every point raised by Dan Gibson and research it and gun for truthful conclusions, because God doesn't lie, doesn't support lies, neither does He work magic to back up beliefs.
I wish this was tought in schools and COLLEGES. Let the kids learn the truth
Thank you doctor Dan Gibson for sharing your great work for us. God bless you 🙏 🙏 🙏
An excellent found by doctor Dan Gibson👍👍👍🙏
I have ever seen the original video from Dan Gibson on his TH-cam channel and he also explains about zam-zam water source. Everything makes sense to me as a Moslem 🙂
I'm surprised this has only surfaced over the last 5yrs. I have followed this since the early noughties. The falsehoods of Islam are now exposed.
Mecca is just a Saudi religious "Disneyland. The money they have lavished on this site is on par with what the Vatican spent on itself in the 16th century.
😂Religous Disney😂Religion is big business. Pray at home. It's cheaper and safer.
Dr Dan Gibson should give evidence from mosques from areas like Madina. The mosques cannot be almost 180 degrees rotated towards Mecca instead of Petra.
Muslims also don't only point towards Kaaba during prayer, Muslims also burry the dead ones while facing the face of the dead one towards Mecca. This will also give evidence about the original Mecca. The oldest graveyards of Madina should be examined and we can easily find the location of original Mecca. Dr. Dan is just creating a controversy, nothing else. Also, we have a lot sights and symbols in Mecca about the old city of Mecca for example the homes of Prophet and his companions and the location where different events took place. Petra doesn't have them except a temple and ruins. Fabricating history, like Dr. Dan claims, on such a large scale won't have been easy if some king wanted to do it.
you mad interesting uploading. take care!DOCUVERSE,
I was thinking the same thing.
Wow! Mind Blowing
Well done Mr Gibson.
Thank you Mr. Gibson! Praying to the black rock is called idol worship! But they deny it! Blinded by satan! 😢I have been following Dr. Jay Smith, Al Fadi and Lloyd de Jong! ❤
i feel bad for you if you follows jay smith and fadi
What you are talking about is actually interesting but at the same time it makes me shocked lol.
I am curious about the city of Medina which became the place of migration of the Prophet Muhammad... Does that mean it wasn't where we know it? 🤔
Maybe it was the Medina as we know it as it was in the caravan routes he showed in the beginning. Remember they used to attack the mekkan caravans
It is likely that Medina would’ve been the next ‘Mecca’, and then the current day Mecca would’ve been created to fulfill the idea of a holy city as there was no previous civilisation there to counter historic claims. Medina has a lot more historical sources because it was within the incense caravan route, and there were multiple Jewish tribes that lived there before pre-Islam. For whatever reason, whether by political reasons or a change of caravan route due to Petra losing its position to Syria and the resulting earthquakes a couple centuries before Mohammed’s alleged birth, Medina would’ve been an ideal trade centre to migrate to
@@gappuma7883 yes. Medina is an oasis city. So, It was where prophet Muhammad formed the government
This is as if I was there after listening to the Doctor.
It is as plain as day. 😊
"Our Lord, I have settled some of my descendants in an uncultivated valley near Your sacred House, our Lord, that they may establish prayer." Quran 14:37
"And ˹remember˺ when We assigned to Abraham the site of the House, ˹saying,˺ “Do not associate anything with Me ˹in worship˺ and purify My House for those who circle ˹the Ka’bah˺, stand ˹in prayer˺, and bow and prostrate themselves." Quran 22:27-28
there are loads of verses whic debunk the complete argument and these verses are pesent in literally every single oldest Manuscript during the time of the Prophet s.a.w
You seem to have left out the end of verse Q14:37; ‘Our Lord, indeed I have settled of my offsprings in a valley not with cultivation near Your Sacred House Our Lord that they may establish the prayers. So make hearts of men incline towards them, and provide them with fruits, so that they may be grateful’
@@arjealis97From Diodorus of Sicily History of biblica
44-² Furthermore, at times when the current rushes in and there are frequent shiftings of the winds, the surf, beating upon the rocky beach, roars and rages all about the projecting rock. (The inhabitants of the land about the gulf), who are known as (Banizomenes), find their food by hunting the land animals and eating their meat. (And a temple has been set up there, which is very holy and exceedingly revered by all Arabians.)
@@hufun3789 why don’t you mention the first half of that paragraph, 44-1?
@@arjealis97 Because I want to highlight...The Holy temple (that Christians always argued) already there before prophet Muhammad was born
And the (gulf) today was obhur, jeddah
@@arjealis97 did you know Diodorus was born at 1st century BC
In the seventh century, GPS technology was not available for pinpoint accuracy. Astronomy was the sole domain where individuals could effectively navigate using celestial positioning systems. And I guess this is why Colombus got so lost and ended up in the Bahamas, seeking India
You simply can't get to India via the North Atlantic. Columbus didn't know that the Anericas got in the way.
🤣🤣🤣There was a lot the 'Lost Columbus' didn't know; the fool couldn't even read the stars, but here we are. @@PGHEngineer
Don't know where you're getting your info about Columbus but it's incorrect.
Ok, and as the world patiently waits for your groundbreaking new revelation about Colombus@@_Highvalue_
and your point to this is....what
Wowowowowowowowo thank you
Dr talk real sense
So present day Mecca is fabricated 😂😂
To be honest, I wouldn’t put it past the early Arab. Aoouuuthubilla
A great discovery of the Islam no doubt patra is the real macca very realistic and true story of Muhammad Islam
Even wikipedia tell the same about Mecca
Is that tha part 1 ???
documetary tells us islamic believers is following prayed to the block stone?
Cry more bro
ISLAM WAS CONQUERRED BY THE SWORD. NOW UN-KNOWINGLY DYING BY THE SAME MONGERING SWORDS OF FRIVOLOUS IDEOLOGIES and VOODOO-ISTIC-LLLIES.
Petra fits many, if not all, the claims and evidence for the original story of Bekka/Mecca. If it turns out to be true, would it really affect the historic figure of Mohammed or the Islamic faith?
The Quran is the literal perfect word of God and an exact copy of it is kept in heaven. Or that's what the religion is founded on.
@@PGHEngineer well, alrighty then. Sounds like you've got it all worked out. Just out of curiosity, on whose authority are you making those claims?
@@MythwrightWorkshop
"according to Islamic teaching, it was insured that the wording of the Quranic text available today corresponds exactly to the literal, infallible, "perfect, timeless", "absolute" unadulterated word of God revealed to Muhammad." - source Wikipedia
Regarding the copy in heaven: "Quranic verses 43:4 and 13:39 referred to “mother of the book” (umm al-kitab); verse 85:22 refers to a “well-guarded tablet” (lawh mahfuz) and 56:78 to a “concealed book” (kitab maknun). Revelation of the Quran is described as being "sent down" in verse 17:105:
"With the truth we (God/Allah) have sent it down and with the truth it has come down".[4]
It is also called kalam allah - the word of God - and to most Muslims is eternal and uncreated[1] attribute of God, as opposed to something written or created by God. The Quran that resides in heaven is distinct from the earthly Quran.[5][6] It is disputed whether the revealed Quran is a precise copy of the Heavenly Quran or an abridged version. Commonly, Injil and the Islamic notion of Torah are thought to be part of the Heavenly Quran.[1][7]" - source Wikipedia
It wouldn’t affect the historic figure as much, in fact it would re-enforce the real meaning of ‘Islam’, but the traditional Islam as we know of today would be completely debunked along with all the Hadiths and Sunnahs and most definitely a huge global uproar as a negative effect of the humiliation suffered from devoting so much time and faith to falsehood
@@arjealis97 ah, I see why many are resistant to it.
Yemen extended to Madeena,,prophet Mohammed was Shami but his mother was Yemeni and her family protected him from the shamis makes a lot of sense…also no evidence in Mecca that it has been a worship place for thousands of years…where are the monuments ? Idol worshipers loved to build great structures…don’t see it in Saudi Arabia…it’s fake
Umar al kitab suggested to Moe to change the kibla to mecca and it was revealed word for word the same day.
Umar is a profit too. 😊
This documentary was from 2016?
Its a new version, but still majorly flawed.
@Grim_Azrael how is this flawed?
I just don't understand many things. The Al Aqsa Mosque must have existed at the time of the Prophet.Because Muhammad traveled from there through the seven bumblebees.And where is the Samsam source
Now this is alot more make sense and I believe it's true.. when Dr. Jay Smith said Muhammad was fictional, because the city of Mecca itself is fictional, I just like "what?!!", that claim is too strong, and will be puzzled with other historical proof, like Shia vs Sunni that we have today, it just doesn't fit if Muhammad is a fictional character, let alone the 4 caliph after him..
Now, this video solve the puzzle.. I don't care if you guys said Islam teachings is wrong, but to say that Muhammad was fictional character is too wild.
Muslims are called upon to consider the Quran as the infallible word of Allah. Only it's actually got quite a lot of errors in it.
As a catholic, I was skeptical about Jay Smith, not because he isn't catholic but because there are some christian records in around 637 AD which refers to this 'new prophet' (in bad, of course) among the saraceans and give him the name Muḥammad (A Record Of The Arab Conquest Of Syria, 15-16 AH / 637 CE, folio 1 of BL Add. 14,461). Plus the fact that Jay Smith go into details about the coins where the caliphs mint their images with crosses and conclude they were christians but he doesn't explain why the same caliphs minted coins with their face with zoroastrian symbols at the same time in Iran. There is even a christian source of the 7th century which states that in Syria, local merchants refused to accept coins which didn't bear the cross on them. But Gibson is more neutral and try to be scientific and objective in his approach.
Make sense a lot.... Unfortunately, still today, we cannot post this kind of documentaries in muslim countries ( middle east) in any whats app groups even to christians. They are afraid of being monitored & jailed for criticism.
I have a dream that lead me to islam AllhamdulliAllah and it's was Petra, between 2 mountains cut in the middle by nature.
It's obvious that the qibla will not point to the same direction! If I am living in another part of the world, can the qibla find it? 😨😨
This man makes a lot of sense.
As David King said,those mosques dont face Petra but face Winter Sunset & Sunrise. Because through them,Muslims tried to find direction of Kabba,Mekka
Great work. How do they know he was born in 572ad. It is a gregorian calender.
And Napoleon was not even born with registrations.
Doesn't make sense because kaaba was there before Islam. Other tribes made copies also, if dan went to petra and found something there then it's his problem
Archaeological evidence is speaking... That kaaba was built late.. not rebuilt..
th-cam.com/video/Msmzd5-Hgmg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=p5aPntuHcLsve4pg
Prophet Mohammad performed Hajj and he mentioned Arafat. So where is Arafat? In Petra?
Second Arab in Gujarat
China mosque is not old it recent
So what you have is the unreliability of hadiths, particularly those reportedly translated by Aisha, hadiths that were collected hundreds of years after their events.
1:49 mecca is Hope.
Jews do no wrong understanding the prophasies.if for the sake of argument your findings are true,then why the Jews migrated to Madina to welcome the last prophet? We the Muslims have flawless connectivity to that era .you only focused on archeology n didn't point out any missing link of our history.you must prove with missing link.
😂
What would be the missing link? Jews settling outside of Israel after the destruction of the temple?
What really puzzled me is, what the f### is doing mövenpick is doing there?
Petra.
One man thoughts that millions people are blind about their histry?
May be he is at dream
You should call it "blinded".
There's plenty of Roman history, but we now understand it is mostly fabricated, to support those in power vs those they usurped.
In the end, Islam is a political power play, designed to allow the powerful to do as they see fit, control their people, and keep the Byzantine Empire at bay. It still works that way today.
According to muslims christianity is wrong but 2 billion people follow it so that makes Trinity right?
@@lotusisme21 who are say Cristians are wrong.
Only such Cristians who says essa a.s is one of three they believe that God has his son are not only wrong but kafir .
Makes sense. Always thought of Islam as the jealous brother of Judaism. Still brothers though. Time for them to heal.
How about safa and Marwah
No sense about exactly direction because they don't have that day modern technology . Also our prophet told us if you are the direction between the sun raising and sun sets you are right because you are not seeing the kacbah or mosque.
Islam starts from a Pagan Moon god of Muhammad called "Al-lah"
Jesus was praying to Al - laha, so I'm guessing he was also praying to the moon God. Silly statement you made.
@@kl8650 Stop telling lies. Don't act like your Mad man prophet Mo.
@ordinarylife2343 What you are saying is absurd. Clearly, you are ignorant of the arabic language. The Christian and the idolaters used the word meaning God. Go educate yourself.
@@kl8650 Tell it to Arab native Ex- Muslims bro.
@ordinarylife2343 an arab that thinks Allah is a moon God 😄 🤣. I guess Rab also means moon God too, haha.
Gibson is ignorant of the Arabic language. The word used in the Quran 2:144 is "Shatra" which means half in English. The Quran tells Muslims to face the half or the side of Mecca. It doesn’t say pray directly or sharp towards Mecca. As long as you don’t face the opposite side of Mecca, you're fine. Of course the closer you’re to the Kaaba the easier it gets, but if you are too far you look at the direction of sun and this can differ according to geography and time of the year.
Sounds complicated. In fact it seems like the worship of inanimate objects.
Sounds like he’s chasing a ghost.
😂😂😂😂
he's using hard evidence.
Hard evidence my ass
Laughable pseudo science at best.
Do you have Jabal al Nur, Hira' cave in Petra?
No archealogical evidence?.. from a country that demolishes grave/shrine of Baqi', and made house of Khadija/the prophet (foundation) as hotel's toilet, what do you expect?
The crucial point being overlooked, whether intentionally or due to mere oversight, is as follows:
The Quran contains numerous verses shedding light on the origin of the Kaaba. It confirms that the Kaaba was the primordial House of Worship for humanity, built by Ibrahim and Ismail under divine guidance.
"Indeed, the first House [of worship] established for mankind was that at Bakkah (Makkah), blessed and a guidance for the worlds."
- Quran, Surah Al Imran
"And [mention, O Muhammad], when We designated for Abraham the site of the House, [saying], 'Do not associate anything with Me and purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who stand [in prayer] and those who bow and prostrate.'"
- Quran, Surah Al-Hajj
"And [mention] when Abraham and Ishmael were raising the foundations of the House, [saying], 'Our Lord, accept [this] from us. Indeed You are the Hearing, the Knowing.'"
- Quran, Al-Baqarah
regard what happen in that days. it very unfortunate that magnificent Umayyad palace building now remain a ruin. war only left man a destruction.
Re-upload 😏
What happened in Gaza Palestinians is Petra Jordan in line with the English Balfour Declaration. Hope is less
Hes good for alternate history fantasy documentaries.😂😂😂😂
i dont agree this self made documentry.any how petra or mecca islam is still the same.the place doesnt matter
To the discerning mind it matters
It matters alot. A foundation built on sand will eventually crumble.
Now the credibility of the Quran and Islam itself is suspect.
Telling lie
It's impossible Mecca already existed at 7th century. Out of history.
Yemen, Iraq, Syria - These are where Islam developed. Paganism!
Were did christianity originate
Rome
ISLAM ORIGINATED IN THE HIGHEST HEAVEN, THE FIRST MUSLIM TO SUBMIT TO THE ALMIGHTY WAS OUR FATHER ADAM PEACE BE UPON HIM
Islam originated in Rome the capital of Italy where there were great libraries from which Muhammad learned Greek, Hebrew and Aramiac languages to enable him reading all books to finally produce his Quran. He spent some years to achieve his goals then he came out to the world claiming he is a prophet. Sometimes, Muhammad used the secret weapon of that time "The Mr. Google Research" which helped Muhammad so much to get all his knowledge.
This proves that Makkah was not the place where islam started from.
Stupid idiots 😂
Good documentary , but we must remember that muhamed came to existence later almost 200 years after the Hebrew Bible which we have real account by people who were present . Muhamed are mostly stories of people .
sanskrit also
Because quran and vedas also have similarities
And zend avesta also have similarities with quran
sanskrit also
Because quran and vedas also have similarities
And zend avesta also have similarities with quran
Muslim can't give Mecca, Hegra as Hope.. Petra is just Petra.
Did the Dr understand muttawatir…this Dr is just a liar…
The Masjid al-Qiblatayn (Arabic: مسجد القبلتين, lit. 'Mosque of the Two Qiblas', Hejazi Arabic pronunciation: [mas.dʒɪd al.ɡɪb.la.teːn]), also spelt Masjid al-Qiblatain,[1] is a mosque in Medina believed by Muslims to be the place where the final Islamic prophet, Muhammad, received the command to change the Qibla (direction of prayer) from Jerusalem to Mecca.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masjid_al-Qiblatayn
Hirah is horev.
Muslim scholars wouldnot accept this discovery..
People should be on the side of truth, regardless of their religious background, ethnicity, or culture. This video has been circulating in many titles and many forms, intended to destroy Islam. Read the Quran and ask the Muslim scholars to check the veracity claimed in this video.
These revelations will not affect Muslims. They will read the verses from the book of Allah '', Both the east and the west belong to Allah. Now, wherever you turn, you will return to Allah. There is no doubt that Allah's grace and mercy are abundant; He knows everything.,, wriggle their way out, then continue on their way.
After watching the 1st minute into the video, it is clearly evident the video is riddled with lies and / or misconceptions. The narrator should be 100% sure he is narrating truth. If he has doubts or simply does not know, he must do his homework. At 48 seconds, he says Muslims prey to a "black" rock in Mecca. We do not pray to any rock. I will not give the answer.....increase your knowledge.
They pray to the direction of the black rock 🪨. In 48 seconds out of 1.5 hours of solid evidence you broke sticks in ur ears. Definition of willful ignorance.
@Sango-po5pi Again, we do not pray to a "rock." If you loose the ignorance and geniunally want to learn something, then ask, "Why do Muslims from all over the world pray towards the direction of Mecca" then I will respectfully answer you. Otherwise, look it up.....
Ur bias
If you love humanity and is a moral person, a person seeking truth you will not say that you will not give any input. If you do not have anything to say stand down and let the researchers do their job. There are people who want the truth. Do not make yourself a fool.
You kiss the rock! 😂
Or ..................... The debate can be ended by saying they were inaccurate about directions like they actually are about mathematics and move on!!! LOL!
Not sure about the math, they’re called Arabic numerals or a reason.
Or........ The evidence is overwhelming. Too many things fit for Petra whereas they don't at all for Mecca.
Islam began in Arabia according to the late great DR John Hendrix Clark
Lanatullah alaih
We have the Quran produced by Imam Ali in the order the verses were revealed moments after our Prophets transitioned from this world. You have been lied too
We know that the Prophet attempted to perform umrah and was stopped at Hudaybiyah which is in the direction and close to Mecca and not Petra you have been deceived
We know the Prophet and Abu Bakr left Mecca to go to Medina they sort cover in a cave called Thawr which is close to Mecca and Hudaybiyah and are no way near Petra your been munipilated
We know Abraham made other kaba’s for Allah
Allah tells us in the Quran Both East and West belong to Allah, so wherever you turn, the Face of Allah is there. So our direction we turn is to Mecca
We know Umar made an extension to the Mecca mosque and all the extension made to the kaba and mosque from the prophet Muhammad tell today both the kaba and Mosque have their history and it’s not Petra
The Rocks you say we worship is false it’s the same as were you have been made by the earth from rocks building all over the earth have been made from the earth rocks cement don’t people love their houses
We have our religion from Allah the Lord of All the Worlds
we believe in Him
we accept Him
and follow Prophet Muhammad and His Family and Companions
we have our guidance and Laws
From Prophet Muhammad, who did exist and history confirms it, from the Roman Empire, the Egyptian empire, to the Persian empire, to the African empires, to the Arabian empires.
We are happy with Allah as our Lord
Muhammad peace be on Him as our Prophet
We accept the Quran and Al-Islam as our way of life
We can only convey and warn
There is no compulsion in religion You have the chose to disbelieve or believe
Weather you want Hell or Paradise it’s your choice
Please stop attacking other peoples religions
Peace and Love to All
Dr liar 😂😂
Gibson claims that all early mosques were built to point to Petra, his archeological evidence. That means either they were all
build by the same people, who used the same bad compass, or they should be guided by God. This fellow rules out the first. For the second possibility, there are two options (apologies for not coming up with the magic 7 options) : (1) it was not God but the Satan, (2) it was God and a miracle.The first possibility can not be, because the Satan would direct them to Mount Olympus, which was located in Sinai in those days, before it was moved to somewhere in Greece. Isaiah did the moving, who is alive and well, doing daily Godly work. That rules out the
Satan. That leaves a miracle from God option as the only possibility. Why would God use Muslims for his miracles though? Could it be that with this miracle God is saying that Mr Gibson is actually the Satan? Didn't Jesus say he stayed with Satan in the desert for 40 days? He was supposed to castigated. My God, Jesus lied as well. Christians! You are all forsaken by God, just like Jesus was forsaken by God, and let the Romans put him on the cross like idiots they were, and not letting him revive all dead Roman solders like Lazarus the beggar? They could have
done with Persia good long time ago, and USA would not have worry about Iran now.
Or there’s a reality where people used claims of god for power! Do you really think a being responsible for the universe dictated the Bible/Quran? Come on - that had no clue about anything outside of that time
@@bigboyshit1Irrelevant to what I said.
@@almazchati4178 - absolutely relevant! Miracles and satans! Get real
I am using logic, you are making another fuzzy claim. You lack comprehension.
@@almazchati4178 - you lack basic cognitive reasoning. Thousands of years ago man believed in such babble
Christian missionary projects @ propaganda 🔥🔥🔥
This a fake message Mecca is the origin of Islam
This is a funny documentary. They want to make it look like Muslims got it all wrong 🤪! That’s like me saying Rom is not in Italy, it’s in Timbuktu
U are just emotional and belive What ur parents told you , have u been Reading Quran Or u just belive
@@KALLHASH most muslim are illiterate about their own book. you waste your time talk about quran with muslim. this people never read it. even they want they cant read arabic lol.
There are evidences that they’ve been praying and facing Petra and all their big mosque also facing Petra toward Allah the Petra god who has 2 daughters for 100 years. I am not too sure if Mohammad even know about Quran maybe he was just living a normal life and the people that know him decided to write Quran. Quran came 1850 years after bible. My theory is that the writers of Quran might be inspired by bible but because of the hatred towards Jews and Christianity those writers might somehow get to read bible and picked stories from bible and put it in Quran like bible said Jesus was a son of God clearly bible said Jesus is God of God and Quran put Jesus was man he was not God and just a messenger. Like bible said Jesus will send someone after him Jesus was talking about holy sprit but Quran use that and take advantage by saying God will send Mohammad. I just feel like they are so many thing that are wrong in Quran. That was my theory
It looks like Rome is in Istanbul / Constantinople.
Rome being the original capital of Italy, was relocated by Constantinople in Turkey .
Petra / Becca being the center of worship in Islam was later relocated to Mecca , which is unquranic.
Truth hurts so come with facts to dispute this otherwise accept reality
About Islam you need to meet an Islamic Scholar , the sheikh ul hadees. You can't just make a video saying islam is this and that, you better ask about islam from a scholar and learn and then make a documentary, and whenever a non muslim tells about islam they always say islam came after Muhammad (saw) which is wrong, who was Adam and abraham and moses and jesus , islam exists from the beginning not after Muhammad ( saw), there are much more scholars of islam better ask them about islam rather than making false documentary.
And What is a scholar u have Quran and Thats all you need u belive In scholars like they are mini gods stop being emotional and ask questions Allah does tell u In Holy Quran ask reflect and dont just belive like ur parents did
@@KALLHASH you need a teacher to learn from , i don't think so if you're educated, and Allah was telling this to the non believers correction plz, to the non believers as they were worshiping statues and saying that their ancestors were doing the same , bro you don't know nothing about Quran and what every word means and what was it telling , do you know about the Tafseer?????? You need to educate yourself then ask me questions and debate... scholars are our teachers our guids not gods you foolish guy..... you don't even know what a preacher or a scholar means 🤣🤣
Islamic geography scholar?😂
You should even read your own scholar that 'fabricated Islam' Al-Tabari in his book called : Prophets and Patriachs, volume 2, page 73 mentionned that the Amalekites were living near by Mecca, and if you looked were they are located, they were living in Mount Seir, this is about 30 to 50 kilometrers from Petra. Islam is from Petra in far north, no doubt about it anymore.
@@sirac4600 if alibabaakali not convince by your word. may be you can sell counterfeit artifact to him lol. this kind man not even budge about the truth. they just like hearing nonsense story about muhammad and friend.
Gibson's hypothesis is not taken seriously by other scholars, people ..
It's pseudohistory. Quite bad research, in fact.
The truth hurts 😢 there was no mecca when muhammed was alive history has now proven this 😂 this is a old and scholars agree with him keep up with history 😂😂
since when wadi Araba has its name ? could it even before the name ( arabs ) was used ?
so Arabs didn't come from desert, but from cities and civilization.
100 percent Petra