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Content of the video
0:00 - Intro
00:50 - Corporate funding issues
07:50 - Software support issues
11:00 - Kde barely making enough
13:52 - Security of the desktop
17:05 - DONATE :)
18:22 - Conclusion
19:00 - Outro - บันเทิง
Of course these are my own opinions, some of it is probably wrong or outdated, but the more funding the better for linux and the desktop honestly :)
Also i would like to see what your thoughts are on funding in the linux world :P
i agree
It's far more than just funding for Linux, as it's also about how that funding is spent.
Individual devs from Red Hat and Valve did a great job on making desktop linux more appealing. Can't say the same about the linux foundation though.
Exactly It's pretty insane how much valve contributes with their engineers and redhat helping out with like nvk/nova recently or funding fedora as a sponsor :)
The Linux Foundation, sadly, is corrupt.
yeah, linux foundation should be pushed to spend more money on the kernel.
I was listening to the video in the background and started panicking when audio issues started
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MVP! You added all links for donations in the description 🏅
Even Microsoft doesn’t spend much on their “desktop”. They just dress up the old stuff a bit and add a few features. Win 11 isn’t much different from Win 10. But there will be less privacy and more telemetry.
coming from windows I love KDE, definetly gonna support them
Your audio issues sound very much like the AMD fTPM audio stutters. Are you using an AMD Processor with AMD fTPM and Safe Boot on, perhaps?
Nope, i figured it out last night, its either my audio interface that is the problem as the mic i use needs a lot of gain that my audio interface can only just do if i turn it up all the way, switching back to my old at2020 mic which doesnt need that much gain, so far it doesnt do that stutter anymore
the issue with codecs on davinci resolve:
on windows, microsoft pay tons of money to licence codecs, and embed then in windows, apple does the same with macOS, on linux... good luck with that, who gonna pay to distribute codecs on a free system that people might download tons of times and never give a cent?
since distros wont, the other option would be davinci do that... yeah very unlikely, so only the pro version support some codecs on linux.
So what would increase the funding??
Like i said at the end of the video, Donations, sponsors, this is already happening, even a couple of dollars count for features getting done on your favourite desktop or distros you use
I guess the problem is, is Linux is still seen by the foundation as a hobbyist environment? No one at the foundation uses Linux as their daily drive, or at least they didn't when I first started using Linux fourteen years ago. Linux has come an awful long way over the past fourteen years that I have been using it. Mostly all I have seen go into the Kernel is hardware driver support, mostly CPU's. I hope that they don't start introducing AI CPU's into it, as it is that tech that we do not need on Linux.
Audio issues. Isn't this also because of atmospheric distortions? Like thunder and lightning.
Idk if your trolling or not 😂 but think its my cable unsure
Edit: seems to be an audio problem as it happens on discord also in calls
@@linuxnext 😭
I donate for the sofware I use. KDE included. I don't believe in donating to those big foundations where the big corpo's are in control. I get it, those corpo's have their own agenda and seeing for example the strides made in the cloud, I see the progress there. But it isn't the progress we need. So that's why I tend to donate directly to the devs who are developing in these areas. Oh yeah, Valve gets my donations in form of game purchases. That's a bit of a different situation.
Agreed, looking at you mozilla and your shady financial backers!
Complete speculation I don't know how this works right, but I feel like a functioning desktop and working software is a large gatekeeper for a somewhat average consumer who would consider an alternative operating system, and when you have someone like Microsoft who likely has massive pull on the board, they clearly don't want that level of competition, so the incentive is likely lower at least from them to fund that sort of thing. Not saying everyone on the board is like that and its likely much more complex than even I'm speculating, but its plausible.
Why does your sign say lo-fi coffee?
its a gif background for recording lol, found it online
do you know of some wallpaper engine-like software? that's the only thing holding my wife of getting rid of windows
What desktop environment are you gonna use?
@@linuxnext she wanna use KDE
You might be able to get away with opening videos in fullscreen, so it stays in the background.
Well, Wallpaper Engine is essentially that.
This is a hard one, kde is one of the best ways to use live wallpapers by using a plugin in kde that will use your wallpapers from wallpaper engine buuut it doesnt support every codec that wallpaper engine uses so not every wallpaper will work properly but it does work when it can, it could also be not supported anymore as i havent used it since kde plasma 5
Its last update was 2 years ago yikes
store.kde.org/p/1475528/
@@linuxnext Is it possible to simply run Wallpaper Engine under proton and run it in fullscreen? Idk, just throwing an idea
chrome and ublock origin in 2024?
this man really likes the adrenaline
Lol yeah im on firefox now, it was to try out vaapi decoding on amd as mesa 24.1 fixed one problem with decoding on chrome and there is a patch for chrome to work with decoding under wayland as you had to use xwayland to get decoding working right now, so i was using a aur package of chrome called google-chrome-wayland-vulkan to get it working
But yeah back to firefox as this month chrome is removing ublock and even my friends have moved aswell because of this change lol
linux software need to give us a way to easily buy the respective software if they want to improve, preferably something that doesn't take a cut of that money, not just donate
1$ every month by all of it's active users adds up, and that is the minimum of minimum
Create your own desktop environment
Idk that seems like a tough job and i am NOT qualified either 😭
Big props to all desktop environments that put in huge amounts of effort for very little money
There are a few problems with the Linux desktop environment; it looks dated, and programs never seem to scale correctly.
Depends on the desktop, in my experience scaling works pretty well on KDE and GNOME Xorg (GNOME Wayland is kind of a clusterfuck in this regard, fractional scaling wasn't even there last time I used it), but with anything else it's pretty hit or miss. I definitely wouldn't say they look dated though, you can theme your Linux UI to look like Literally Anything
I had an attempt to move to Linux this last weekend. And I agree with you on the scaling issue. 4K monitor, 125% fractional scaling, sometimes Steam kept it, sometimes not.
Gaming was a lot better than I expected it to be - but I did find that jumping into menus/maps the mouse went off center to somewhere bottom right. As a test I turned off scaling and hardware acceleration on the mouse, and the issue seemed to go away. But then the desktop was all small again.
Throw in the other issues I had to work through, I went back to Windows. . .
Though - in my Planet Crafters playthrough - on windows it starts stuttering as I approach my main base and all the things around it. Didn't seem to have that issue under Linux which was interesting.
So Linux is getting better, just, too many quirky issues from not being properly supported by software devs I guess.
was this under wayland or x11? and what desktop environment as each desktop has its own wayland compositor as kde can be better for fractional scaling under wayland then gnome for example
very much something you need to learn a bit about as some desktops like gnome dont have everything for fractional scaling that kde does or the new cosmic rust desktop from system76
steam will probs also continue to improve fraction scaling as right now steam is ran through xwayland as valve doesnt support wayland on the steam client yet
all a work in progress i would say right now as we move to wayland fully by the end of the year on the desktop side and hopefully every app you can think of supports wayland properly
The Linux Foundation is Linux only in name. It's a group of corporations that joined together to fund development that address their interests. One of those interests happens to be the Linux kernel. They decide what to do with their money and only answer to themselves. I don't like it but it makes sense, they do whatever they want with their money.
I concur with your sentiment that the Linux Foundation is in name only. Corporatism has largely perverted it.
Linux has come a very long way, there is no doubt about it, but there is still a barrier for the average user, one argument that my friends consistently throw my way is that they dont want to switch to something that objectivly provides worse performance for their top end hardware. For examepl with the new ghost of tsushima, a friend of mine also has a 4090 and he gets around 30fps more than me at 4k with the same settings, now of course we could argue that other games perform better on linux but thats not really the point hes making. Its a shame but i am hopeful that as time goes on it will close the gap.
That will probs be up to nvidia to improve and thats where funding comes in again where nvidia doesnt put as much funding into their drivers. Thats where companies like valve started funding development with amd and performance on amd on linux is great.
but then you go to intel and you cant even play dx12/vkd3d games lol because well intel doesnt see the future of making money on linux desktop for things like gaming but this could change soon.
hopefully more handhelds come out with different hardware running linux and that will force companies like nvidia and intel to improve on these things
This is where nvk can rlly make a difference as valve, redhat and others are helping nvk get good at desktop and gaming so hopefully that improves so that more people can move over
@@linuxnext I had purchased a NUC with ARC 770 inbuilt to test Linux on/use for light gaming/take with me when I visit family in other states. Worked fine, at least in intel integrated graphics, never quite got the ARC card to be detected. . . So it's now a windows media centre machine. LOL.
I Cant See Any Problem...
Well have fun :)
Spend .5% on desktop environments!
I do not think every piece of software should be free or even open source. The guts from the os, drivers, apis, etc... yes those should be free and open source since there are incentives from many companies to fund them or make contributions because they are going to use them for their projects.
But specific apps should be paid or maybe some functionality free and you pay for the premium version or have some way of monetization. But that means they should be privative since if they are open source anybody can fork them.
I love the ideology behind free and open source buy maybe is not for every project. Bottles should be a paid app for example =)
True bottles is a very complex piece of software and the devs should be compensated for their hard work
Windows users are never going to migrate across, till Linux can get just the basics right HDR on Gnome for example.
Why move when they have that already on Win 10/11
Well that is a feature people want the majority of users also dont have that feature available, there are lots of users who have been asking to move over who dont have or use hdr.
i have hdr and i dont use it because its too vibrant and i dont want to use gamescope to get the feature available in games but i do see your point tho and when its ready on the majority of popular desktops then those users can move over
Not a lot of people care that much about HDR
@@linuxnext It was an example out 300 I could have chosen.
Linux desktop has a long way to go.
People don’t wanna hear it, buts it’s true.
@@neofox2526 It was one example of
You can find hundreds more where they need to improve.
The fragmentation is the biggest issue. The entire Linux Desktop experience is held together by a bunch of hobbyist software developed in some generous people's own free time.
It is a cobbled together experience, with too many moving parts, just having to mention a piece of many in the puzzle like gamescope should tell you all you need to know. And that's just one thing. One variable that depends on other variables built upon volunteer software that has no guarantee or liability.
The only way Linux will really succeed in the Desktop is through something like the already successful SteamOS, when that is officially supported on the Desktop as a Valve backend OS.
Unfortunately the way the entire Linux operating system is put together is a mess, it either goes fully Immutable with a curated Flatpak experience, or the community needs to settle on consistent standards as a whole, the later looks impossible for me.
I honestly much prefer the way *BSD is handled, as a whole consistent OS instead.
Isnt the point of a foundation to give money to people who needs it? Aka project that dont get attention. Everything they are founding already have massive support from big tech?? What is going on here?
Rlly dont know :/
I would transition fully to Linux if ray tracing performance and rasterization gaming performance was up to par. I like the linux desktop better than windows, but that’s the thing holding me back from fully switching, I also have an issue of distro hopping as well, which I need to fix
I actually get better fps on Linux than windows11 with monster hunter world, although I haven't tested more games, performance is looking good, I don't know about ray tracing I don't care about it
I'm on Arch with plasma(Wayland)
@@korigun what gpu do you have? just curious
@@Fate-qw3rn 1660 super gigabyte
Do you have amd? If so valve is working hard on improving that in mesa, to get the best performance for that use the latest mesa
@@linuxnext tested Nvidia on 555 beta drivers on 4070 mobile and amd rx 7800xt on the latest mesa, but performance isn’t there yet mainly on ray tracing compared to windows. I’m gonna test my 4080 super when it arrives soon. In some games it does perform fairly well, but on other games I play, it doesn’t, in conclusion it’s hit or miss, but let’s give it like 1-2 years, and hopefully Linux will become equal or better than windows gaming. We’re one step closer to that with explicit sync on 555 drivers
Igot banned off a Linux fan group we have a bunch of snow flakes in are community
That's most anything to do with tech, both in Linux and other platforms. Best thing to do is just ignore them and don't donate to platforms that support them.
Better support for Da Vinci Resolve and Discord?? Da fuk? Linux should be supporting FLOSS - not proprietary!
And i do, but people use that software, without this software becoming on par with linux people will think linux is worse then windows or mac.