I live in Central Florida, I used to live in Temecula California. It’s not just the high temps , it’s the low humidity and endless sun of California. Here in a Florida it rains almost every afternoon for about 20 minutes during the summer. There are also partly cloudy skies here almost every day. I have no trouble growing tropicals here but in Temecula I had to provide partial shade. My USDA climate zone was 9B in California and it’s 9B here in Florida. It’s amazing how different the climates actually are.
Thank you so much for making this video! I've got a wax jambu that I managed to snag online at a discount and it's been in my yard in basically full shade the entire summer north of you in the central valley. Glad to know I'm doing at least something right! I've also started growing mango from seeds due to being inspired by another one of your videos. Much appreciated!
You’re very welcome. That’s awesome on your wax jambu and mango seedlings. There’s nothing quite like having a hand in growing something that in turn rewards you with the most delicious fruits. Keep in mind, you’re also growing for future generations as the trees will likely outlive each of us.
Interesting topic and helpful tips, as always. What you said about moving a plant to a sunnier spot, that the older leaves may die off but the younger leaves may adapt, that was enlightening. Thank you for that.
Very valuable information! I am in south Portugal, zone 9b. It can get to 40 degree Celsius, full sun for months, similar climate to San Jose. I do have 10 white sapote in ground and full sun. They are doing amazing, even small airlayered plants. Every day consistent watering is the key. After seeing all of your videos, I have planted already 17 Jamun and lots of Ice Cream Bean trees. Especially the Jamun trees are incredibly fast grower and also beautiful, 3 feet’s growth the first year and no issues with anything else. I will do hundreds of Airlayering on the Jamun in August or September as a pioneer tree to provide shades for the upcoming mangos or other more sensitive fruit trees. Started doing a fruit forest on a 2 acres plot since 2 years and learned so much from you.
Hello friend, awesome tropical garden! may I ask what variety of banana trees you have growing in your tropical garden there? They look so healthy even in the winter. Thanks.
You're fruit forest is looking great as always, totally agree with the sun exposure guidelines on those trees, especially cherimoya which really does not like direct sunlight especially in 100+ degree weather. My cherimoya trees got sizzled even under 30% shade cloth had to double it to almost 60%+ and they're liking it a lot more, they're still smaller trees and are container grown and grafted, seedling growth tends to be a bit more sun tolerant but not always. Atemoyas on the other hand appear to be much more sun hardy as well as sugar apple as you mentioned.
Fantastic looking plants. Everything depends on micro climate and species. Here in San Diego on the coast temps are mild that we can get away with a lot of things in full sun like cherimoya, jaboticaba etc. Go 10-15 miles more inland where the sun is more oppressive and you can still grow those but will need a shade cloth or protection of some sort or will burn. Even still, some things just don't like a lot of sun on the coast like sapodilla and some of the eugenia species.
Totally. Although USDA Zone 9b, it’s really not even a close comparison when comparing my region to more tropical friendly places such as Orlando. Luckily, there are some techniques that we can apply to ensure the tropical fruit thrive in just about all regions.
Your front yard looks so lush and healthy; great job! I'm still trying to get my balances right; my front yard is more shaded and compacted soil (and TONS of squirrels and rats that eat all my fruit!) and my back/hillside is more open, full sun and sandier/better draining soil, but also patrolled by hawks. So 3 years in, still trying to figure out what will thrive where! FYI, I have an Alano Sapodilla and White Sapote (grown from seed) in full sun in the less-sheltered area and they're both doing great! My Black Sapote (from seed) got fried though.
Thank you. Concerning your yard, try and see if you’re able to plant the shade and wind protection trees such as Jamun, Capulin Cherry and bamboo either around the perimeter or middle of the yard. As for the Sapote and sapodilla, that is interesting. My experience has been the opposite. My seedling sapodilla gets fried while my Black Sapote looks great.
@@TropicalCentralValley If you're ever in the L.A./Pasadena area (I think you mentioned in a video you occasionally go to Mimosa Nursery in Alhambra?), I would love to invite you to come by and take a look. Would be great to get your input on my trees and hopefully/maybe you could find some inspiration too.
Your jungle is looking great . My cheremoya is between a Meyer's lemon and green fig tree . It get just enough sun here in zone 10b . Im excited about seeing bananas for the first time ever on my grand Nain. They keep forming from the purple flower hanging down and is on row 6 . My wife is not all that excited like me , because she said she saw them all over the Philippines growing 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
Your Manila mango is looking so healthy! Can you please share how much you water it and what do you fertilize to have such green leaves? Mine is 2 years bought from HD, a part of the leaves especially on the top is always seem burnt even though I water them every day. I'm in San Jose. Thank you so much for any advice you can give!
Thank you. Although the Manila variety is quite forgiving, it can definitely appreciate some well draining soil and consistent fertilizing and watering. Where possible, I water all of my trees daily, every hour for about 5 minutes per session.
Yes,I placed all of my smaller mango seedlings which I grew from seed under a Japanese maple tree so that the 37°C (100°F) heat didn't scorch them last summer here in Australia. I have a few of them which are about 1 metre or taller (3-4 feet) in height which are more acclimated & they have grown thicker trunks so that they can take the sun a bit better & even be more frost resistant as well !
That’s awesome. Specific to mango trees, yours will be able to handle the direct 37°C (and higher) in the coming years. My 2-3 year old seedling has been able to handle the extreme frost and dry summer without issues.
True statement. I’m fairly certain in a hypothetical scenario, I can get away with HOA regulations, though I may need to spend some time ensuring the trees look aesthetically pleasing.
That’s interesting. Given the humidity, one would think your tree would be loving the full sun. When I was in Southeast Asia a few years back, there were a ton of caimito trees, young ones and mature ones growing in full sun without issues; then again, those trees were likely grown from seeds (or even wild). My more mature 2 year old caimito in the ground suffers from the occasional sun damage to its foliage during the 110°F-115°F dry days, but new foliage always grows to replace the damaged ones.
How do you get your star fruit looking so healthy? I just planted one in Los Angeles it is about 7 ‘ tall growing rapidly but the leaves are discoloring turning yellow and white and falling off.
Nothing special on my end. Just lots of watering during the summer days. This is typical behavior for them as they do not like abrupt changes (hot days, then cool nights). I’d continue to keep watering them during the summer season.
I do, it’s the tree to the left of the Alano Sapodilla. It’s doing great, given the shade protection it has, it’s been able to handle the heatwave without issues.
@@TropicalCentralValleyyou picked the perfect variety Reed are know to be one of the most heat tolerant and best tasting avocado. Also it’s upright growing and fits perfectly into high density planting
It may be both. Assuming you haven’t changed the growing medium, see if you can upsize it to a container with new growing medium of half peat moss and half sand. I water mine daily, every hour for 5 minutes per session.
I was extremely pissed with lychees and longans. In summer, their leaves would get burnt and just not grow. so, I moved these 2 plants to a shaded region....then the winter came and they wouldn't push even a single leaf out. Even the old ones started dying. Somehow I managed to save 2-3 leaves. So, I put these 2 in the pot and they died! Tried growing 10 more plants ( 5 lychees and 5 longans). Unfortunately, they couldn't survive! I gave up!😅😅😅
That’s a bummer. Specific to the lychee, as they are incredibly slow growers, they take a long time to recover from any sun or frost stress. The longan is a bit more forgiving though and depending on your variety, can be fast growers.
@@TropicalCentralValley I really tried everything! I guess it's not for our climate. We get harsh winters (3-4 degree celsius), Harsh summers (52 degree celsius) and harsh rains (sometimes very little but sometimes severe flood like condition). Also, we are close to equator so Sun is really not forgiving. The clouds are very clear and we get intense sunrays. So, 52 degree celsius feels more like 62 degrees lol!
Although your summers are ever so slightly hotter than mine, your winters are perfect as the temperature do not drop below freezing. Specific to lychee and longan, they are quite frost tolerant. All of mine have been able to handle temperature down to -3.33°C for multiple days. Summer is a different story. It helps to provide some shade or filtered sun, especially in your climate. Try amending your soil, as both prefer the pH to be slightly acidic.
@@TropicalCentralValley I hope so. Haven’t tried Achacha before 😂. I’m growing Lucs Garcinia as well and haven’t had it either. But I am a big fan of mangosteens so pretty sure I will like them.
Although the Achacha and the Gamboge have a hint of the original purple mangosteen taste, both are a bit on the tart side, but still every good. I’d grow them all if possible.
@@TropicalCentralValley white sapote 3 different varieties there above 10 feet tall lychee at 5 feet green sapote at 2 feet but full sun on all do you know if red ilama annona can take our winter
Nice. I’m fairly certain all of mine will have their foliage burned when we had those 117°F days. It’s amazing you’re able to get them in full sun, all day without any damage. For ilama, I have had to frost protect it.
I live in Central Florida, I used to live in Temecula California. It’s not just the high temps , it’s the low humidity and endless sun of California.
Here in a Florida it rains almost every afternoon for about 20 minutes during the summer. There are also partly cloudy skies here almost every day. I have no trouble growing tropicals here but in Temecula I had to provide partial shade. My USDA climate zone was 9B in California and it’s 9B here in Florida. It’s amazing how different the climates actually are.
Totally, having visited Orlando (also USDA Zone 9b) for a week, the humidity and actual rain, (and soil, etc) makes a world of difference.
Thank you so much for making this video! I've got a wax jambu that I managed to snag online at a discount and it's been in my yard in basically full shade the entire summer north of you in the central valley. Glad to know I'm doing at least something right! I've also started growing mango from seeds due to being inspired by another one of your videos. Much appreciated!
You’re very welcome.
That’s awesome on your wax jambu and mango seedlings. There’s nothing quite like having a hand in growing something that in turn rewards you with the most delicious fruits.
Keep in mind, you’re also growing for future generations as the trees will likely outlive each of us.
always happy to watch your vids, appreciate your uploads
Thank you.
Interesting topic and helpful tips, as always. What you said about moving a plant to a sunnier spot, that the older leaves may die off but the younger leaves may adapt, that was enlightening. Thank you for that.
Thank you. The trees are smart and do adapt (eventually) to their climate.
@@TropicalCentralValley True! Plants are amazing.
Totally.
Very valuable information!
I am in south Portugal, zone 9b. It can get to 40 degree Celsius, full sun for months, similar climate to San Jose.
I do have 10 white sapote in ground and full sun. They are doing amazing, even small airlayered plants. Every day consistent watering is the key.
After seeing all of your videos, I have planted already 17 Jamun and lots of Ice Cream Bean trees. Especially the Jamun trees are incredibly fast grower and also beautiful, 3 feet’s growth the first year and no issues with anything else.
I will do hundreds of Airlayering on the Jamun in August or September as a pioneer tree to provide shades for the upcoming mangos or other more sensitive fruit trees.
Started doing a fruit forest on a 2 acres plot since 2 years and learned so much from you.
That’s awesome. There’s nothing quite like tropical fruit trees growing in non-native climates. The trees and fruits do definitely stand out.
lots of tree wow will follow u from san jose
Thank you. In many ways, this is just the beginning, as years go by, the trees will only get better.
Hello friend, awesome tropical garden! may I ask what variety of banana trees you have growing in your tropical garden there? They look so healthy even in the winter. Thanks.
I have the Ice Cream and Nan Wah varieties. I find these two varieties perform extremely well in frosty winter months.
You're fruit forest is looking great as always, totally agree with the sun exposure guidelines on those trees, especially cherimoya which really does not like direct sunlight especially in 100+ degree weather. My cherimoya trees got sizzled even under 30% shade cloth had to double it to almost 60%+ and they're liking it a lot more, they're still smaller trees and are container grown and grafted, seedling growth tends to be a bit more sun tolerant but not always. Atemoyas on the other hand appear to be much more sun hardy as well as sugar apple as you mentioned.
Thank you.
And the temperature only gets hotter every year.
Wow nice will love to get some fruit tree from u if u ever make any
Thank you.
Absolutely, my yard is always welcomed to local viewers.
Fantastic looking plants. Everything depends on micro climate and species. Here in San Diego on the coast temps are mild that we can get away with a lot of things in full sun like cherimoya, jaboticaba etc. Go 10-15 miles more inland where the sun is more oppressive and you can still grow those but will need a shade cloth or protection of some sort or will burn. Even still, some things just don't like a lot of sun on the coast like sapodilla and some of the eugenia species.
Totally. Although USDA Zone 9b, it’s really not even a close comparison when comparing my region to more tropical friendly places such as Orlando.
Luckily, there are some techniques that we can apply to ensure the tropical fruit thrive in just about all regions.
Your front yard looks so lush and healthy; great job! I'm still trying to get my balances right; my front yard is more shaded and compacted soil (and TONS of squirrels and rats that eat all my fruit!) and my back/hillside is more open, full sun and sandier/better draining soil, but also patrolled by hawks. So 3 years in, still trying to figure out what will thrive where!
FYI, I have an Alano Sapodilla and White Sapote (grown from seed) in full sun in the less-sheltered area and they're both doing great! My Black Sapote (from seed) got fried though.
Thank you.
Concerning your yard, try and see if you’re able to plant the shade and wind protection trees such as Jamun, Capulin Cherry and bamboo either around the perimeter or middle of the yard.
As for the Sapote and sapodilla, that is interesting. My experience has been the opposite. My seedling sapodilla gets fried while my Black Sapote looks great.
@@TropicalCentralValley If you're ever in the L.A./Pasadena area (I think you mentioned in a video you occasionally go to Mimosa Nursery in Alhambra?), I would love to invite you to come by and take a look. Would be great to get your input on my trees and hopefully/maybe you could find some inspiration too.
Thanks for the invite. I do, though it’s rare now visit some of the various tropical fruit tree nurseries in the LA region.
Your jungle is looking great . My cheremoya is between a Meyer's lemon and green fig tree . It get just enough sun here in zone 10b . Im excited about seeing bananas for the first time ever on my grand Nain. They keep forming from the purple flower hanging down and is on row 6 . My wife is not all that excited like me , because she said she saw them all over the Philippines growing 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
Very nice.
Your Manila mango is looking so healthy! Can you please share how much you water it and what do you fertilize to have such green leaves? Mine is 2 years bought from HD, a part of the leaves especially on the top is always seem burnt even though I water them every day. I'm in San Jose. Thank you so much for any advice you can give!
Thank you.
Although the Manila variety is quite forgiving, it can definitely appreciate some well draining soil and consistent fertilizing and watering.
Where possible, I water all of my trees daily, every hour for about 5 minutes per session.
Yes,I placed all of my smaller mango seedlings which I grew from seed under a Japanese maple tree so that the 37°C (100°F) heat didn't scorch them last summer here in Australia.
I have a few of them which are about 1 metre or taller (3-4 feet) in height which are more acclimated & they have grown thicker trunks so that they can take the sun a bit better & even be more frost resistant as well !
That’s awesome.
Specific to mango trees, yours will be able to handle the direct 37°C (and higher) in the coming years. My 2-3 year old seedling has been able to handle the extreme frost and dry summer without issues.
I am also in the valley. You're right about Cherimoya, but the grafted portion Atomoya is taking it well.
Yeah, although damaged, the leaves will be replaced with newer ones.
@TropicalCentralValley Yeah! Hopefully, thanks for the information!
You’re very welcome.
Great video! I'm curious if you have HOA in your neighborhood! Do you have HOA?😄
Fortunately, I do not live in an HOA, though, having one may benefit my other neighbors as they then need to tidy up their yard.
@@TropicalCentralValley 😄
True statement. I’m fairly certain in a hypothetical scenario, I can get away with HOA regulations, though I may need to spend some time ensuring the trees look aesthetically pleasing.
My 15' tall, 5 year old Caimito is struggling with sunburn here in 10b South Florida this year. It's brutal!
That’s interesting. Given the humidity, one would think your tree would be loving the full sun.
When I was in Southeast Asia a few years back, there were a ton of caimito trees, young ones and mature ones growing in full sun without issues; then again, those trees were likely grown from seeds (or even wild).
My more mature 2 year old caimito in the ground suffers from the occasional sun damage to its foliage during the 110°F-115°F dry days, but new foliage always grows to replace the damaged ones.
How do you get your star fruit looking so healthy? I just planted one in Los Angeles it is about 7 ‘ tall growing rapidly but the leaves are discoloring turning yellow and white and falling off.
Nothing special on my end. Just lots of watering during the summer days.
This is typical behavior for them as they do not like abrupt changes (hot days, then cool nights). I’d continue to keep watering them during the summer season.
Can Inga take the sun at a young age? I just got a new airlayered one in a one gallon and curious how slow I should take it in our valley heat. Thanks
Mine has been able to take full sun, even when they were only a few feet tall. They grow incredibly fast.
@TropicalCentralValley It's coming from Florida, hope it can acclimate but it sounds like it will. It's the Machete variety.
Did you have a Reed avocado? How’s it doing?
I do, it’s the tree to the left of the Alano Sapodilla. It’s doing great, given the shade protection it has, it’s been able to handle the heatwave without issues.
@@TropicalCentralValleyyou picked the perfect variety Reed are know to be one of the most heat tolerant and best tasting avocado. Also it’s upright growing and fits perfectly into high density planting
I totally agree. It’s also a somewhat compact tree when fully mature.
Does your potted longan leaves get sun damage? My kahola gets sun burnt damage even here in socal 90s degree weather.
No. Half of my longan trees are in containers due to space constraints; all are looking good and producing.
not enough water or not acclimated? I got the tree from champa last December and I water once about every 2-3 days, its situated near a stone wall.
It may be both. Assuming you haven’t changed the growing medium, see if you can upsize it to a container with new growing medium of half peat moss and half sand. I water mine daily, every hour for 5 minutes per session.
I was extremely pissed with lychees and longans. In summer, their leaves would get burnt and just not grow. so, I moved these 2 plants to a shaded region....then the winter came and they wouldn't push even a single leaf out. Even the old ones started dying. Somehow I managed to save 2-3 leaves. So, I put these 2 in the pot and they died! Tried growing 10 more plants ( 5 lychees and 5 longans). Unfortunately, they couldn't survive! I gave up!😅😅😅
That’s a bummer.
Specific to the lychee, as they are incredibly slow growers, they take a long time to recover from any sun or frost stress.
The longan is a bit more forgiving though and depending on your variety, can be fast growers.
@@TropicalCentralValley I really tried everything! I guess it's not for our climate. We get harsh winters (3-4 degree celsius), Harsh summers (52 degree celsius) and harsh rains (sometimes very little but sometimes severe flood like condition). Also, we are close to equator so Sun is really not forgiving. The clouds are very clear and we get intense sunrays. So, 52 degree celsius feels more like 62 degrees lol!
Although your summers are ever so slightly hotter than mine, your winters are perfect as the temperature do not drop below freezing.
Specific to lychee and longan, they are quite frost tolerant. All of mine have been able to handle temperature down to -3.33°C for multiple days.
Summer is a different story. It helps to provide some shade or filtered sun, especially in your climate.
Try amending your soil, as both prefer the pH to be slightly acidic.
Damn that’s hot. It was mid 80s for me today 😂. How old is that Achacha? Mine just put on its 4 pair of leaves after almost a year 😂
Mines going 2 years in the ground. Was about 2 feet tall when first planted.
@@TropicalCentralValley nice. They are some seriously slow growers so far lol
This is very true. They’re one of the slowest growing tropical fruit trees, but their fruits are well worth the wait.
@@TropicalCentralValley I hope so. Haven’t tried Achacha before 😂. I’m growing Lucs Garcinia as well and haven’t had it either. But I am a big fan of mangosteens so pretty sure I will like them.
Although the Achacha and the Gamboge have a hint of the original purple mangosteen taste, both are a bit on the tart side, but still every good. I’d grow them all if possible.
Do you have soursop trees?
Absolutely. No annona collection is complete without soursop trees.
@TropicalCentralValley i got one too I am in the central valley too
That’s awesome. Yeah, soursop is one of the more challenging trees to grow, but it’s well worth it.
I have a few green sapote and white sapote and a lychee no damage from our central valley sun all day sun in tulare county
That’s awesome. What size are they?
@@TropicalCentralValley white sapote 3 different varieties there above 10 feet tall lychee at 5 feet green sapote at 2 feet but full sun on all do you know if red ilama annona can take our winter
Nice. I’m fairly certain all of mine will have their foliage burned when we had those 117°F days. It’s amazing you’re able to get them in full sun, all day without any damage.
For ilama, I have had to frost protect it.
Hi,my camito has flowers,I’m on Ontario
Very nice. My older caimito hasn’t flowered yet, but should be next year. It’s a very beautiful tree.
@@TropicalCentralValley it is so pretty
Totally, especially when tall. The leaves are golden underneath.
@@TropicalCentralValley yes mine looks like that!, it’s now seven feet
Very nice. As you are in the Los Angeles area, your tropical fruit trees all should thrive.
Howdy neighbor when can I get a 🥭mango
Just about every grocery store carries them, though they’re picked and shipped days, if not weeks ago.
You will have more viewers if you wore shorter shorts.
This is probably another myth, though I’ll have to confirm it.
@@TropicalCentralValley😂
I think I should bust this myth. Going to see how low I can go before being removed from TH-cam.
This channel will gain subscribers if you did a little dancing.
Nah, the trees do all the dancing. I’m just their puppet that does the talking.
Air layers can have weak root systems
This is true. Additionally, its branches are super weak and may snap in a windy situation.