How to Water Your Tropical Fruit Trees ( DO NOT DEEP WATER )
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- 9/8/2022 - This may be controversial and contrary to popular beliefs, however, the best method to watering a tropical fruit tree is to perform frequent but in small amounts.
For reference, here is my watering schedule during the summer months:
Front Yard - Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday Saturday
7:30am 10 mins
10:30am 10 mins
1:30pm 15 mins
4:30pm 10 mins
211.5 gallons per day / 3,384 gallons per month
Backyard - Daily
7am - 6pm 3 mins
155.1 gallons per day / 4,653 gallons per month
Total: ≈ 9,165 gallons per month / 12.25 CCF
Wow...This is mind blowing.....Makes you wonder what else the so called experts are wrong about....I'm switching over today and thank you so much for passing on the knowledge you have gained...
You’re very welcome.
I’m just trying to mimic nature, particularly in the region where these tropical fruit trees grow where it rains often, but for short durations.
That's an interesting visual aide you showed using the ziploc bag with the tree branch perspiring. Thank you!
Thank you.
Natasha at Enlightment Garden pointed me to your philosophy. Thank you for your advice. I’m in Arizona and I like what you’re saying.
Thank you. She too has an amazing collection of fruit trees.
Your garden is awesome! Once I get all my trees on drip, I'm going to use this method. I'm hearing from alot of people that this method definitely uses less water and the trees benefit more.
Thank you.
I have a food forest in the AZ east valley.
Nice, if your winter are anything comparable to the Phoenix area, I’m jealous.
Your summers are no joke though.
yes you explained it very well! My back yard is south facing and I got the water on for 10 min every 12 hours it’s not to hot here I live near the coast my trees are happy !
That’s awesome. Your trees will appreciate the constant and regular watering. Looking back, I’m not sure who came up with the original deep watering concept.
Great info my friend I love my tropicals and watering is very important because I liv3 in hot hot texas. I will keep this video for future reference
Peace N Love
Thank you.
This applies to vegetables as well. Pulse watering originated in Australia for dahlias and is now slowly taking over the US with flower and veggie growers. Applying water often and in small amounts keeps the top 6 inches moist, alive and mineralizing nutrients.
I can see how this practice will benefit other plants, including vegetables.
In the region where some of my tropical fruit trees are native to, it rains quite often, just about everyday, but it only rains a for half an hour at a time.
Great information on how you water your trees .
Thank you.
good videos man.,just a sidenote wanna mention water doesnt flow down due to gravity.
gravity is only made up to support the existence of the globe. and as an explaination for water magically sticking to the spaceball. (pseudoscience)
it's off topic but i always like to mention. water flow down because it always finds it own level and can be explained by the laws of density and buoyancy.
i love your video and garden, planning to start my own tropical fuit garden, im also in zone 9B desert climate in central Portugal so it will be tricky.
keep it up man, i am learning
Excellent point.
I’ll have to keep that idea in mind when looking at waterfalls.
Frankenstein comes to mind, as most people know it to be the monster, but it’s technically Victor’s name. Got to love the technicalities.
Good video! It's hard to argue with what works for you!!
Thank you.
i love your videos! your talents are wasted in coroporate america, you should be an ag teacher!😊
Thank you.
I’m fortunate to be able do what I love while getting compensated. This helps to pay for all of the trees. It’s a win-win scenario.
There’s really only so much that can be taught about the growing of tropical fruit trees. The neat thing about the trees is, once established, they’re basically good for life and requires very little maintenance, including during the winter time.
Wow we are supposed to get rain from a hurricane moving up from Baja , today was cloudy and windy . Baja storms rarely hit Los Angeles
Unfortunately, we’re likely not going to get rain in the Central Valley until October or November.
Hi 🙂 I have similar climate as you. Thank you for How to.
You’re very welcome.
Great video
Thank you.
great video homie new insight never thought of before
Thank you.
Brilliant info thanks for sharing!
Thank you.
Thanks! That was really helpful.
You’re very welcome.
Your backyard looks like a rainforest. How do you fertilize and control pest? I just bought a longan tree and it came with scale insects.
Thank you.
Concerning the scale, I would just pluck them off with a tweezer.
Hello do you grow any Florida prince peach tree? If so is it normal for leaf drop do to extreme heat out here in las Vegas?
I do not. Although, I don’t have any peach trees, I would imagine if the tree was suffering from heat related stress, it may drop its foliage in an attempt to conserve its water.
In your case, I would erect a shade clothe on the tree until the temperature goes down in the coming months.
@@TropicalCentralValley I heard from a stone fruit tree suburban gardner in the Phoenix area that puts ice in the morning around the trunk of his trees in 100° plus heat days ???? Also I heard of icing down fruit trees to increase the number of cold hours required for some varieties
I’ve not heard of the ice trick. Even at 100°, the water coming out from your water hose is typically around 73° (mine was). This should be enough to keep the roots nice and cool.
Hope you got some good rain today!!!
Unfortunately, it went around us.
Thank you so much for this video! Makes so much sense to me now I've been deep watering all my container trees every other day so one day I water the trees on the patio the other day the ones under the greenhouse which I have to water manually since they don't have drip irrigation in that section. It takes me at least half an hour of constant watering giving each tree 30-45 seconds of water which isn't much but my hose puts out up to 3 gallons or more per minute meaning just watering 30 trees/plants wastes upwards of 90-100 gallons of water in that half an hour if not more and I have even more trees than that. I also notice that the containers only absorb like 30-50 percent of that water and the rest runs off so imma water everyday for half the time if not less and the drip system will run more often for less time, might use the same schedule as you. Wonderful video and sorry for the crazy long comment. 😅
Forgot to mention they struggle to get through the second day right before their watering afternoon since they've run dry by then so they're always under constant stress, most are very hardy like guavas but I do think they rather have water always but less of it, since more means it just runs off.
Surprised how happy a lot of the plants are even through 110-116 degree weather we had this week.
Specific to containers, although they do require more watering than in ground trees, they don’t need that much more.
Glad to see your trees are doing great.
very interesting and helpful. a few questions: what are the "bubblers" you use, could you give a link so we could look at them? do the bubblers have a circle they spray or bubble, or just essentially drip where they are in a single point? Are the bubblers on top of the ground, above all that mulch? For the trees in large pots, do you use the same bubbler, or a drip, or what? how many per pot? how many bubblers total in the backyard? 155gpm / 11 times per day = 14 gal total in the backyard every hour. how many bubblers do you use to put these 14 gals out? that would tell me how much water each bubbler is putting out. Thanks again for your really helpful material, I'm just trying to get more specifics so I can duplicate your system here.
I use these types of bubblers: www.amazon.com/15300UB-Adjustable-Non-Pressure-Compensating-Emitters/dp/B000BQWON4?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
They’re adjustable, enabling me to increase or decrease the amount of water. Each tree (in ground and container grown) gets its own bubbler.
Not sure about the water output per tree/container. I calibrate every bubbler according to what I feel that particular tree needs.
I wouldn’t over complicate it. The biggest challenge you may have might be the water pressure coming out of each of your bubblers. If you have 50 trees, each with its own bubbler system, the water pressure to each may not be that great. In that case, simply increase your watering time.
I have eugenias, jabos, lychee, june plum and some cherimoya with alot of other trees in pots. My mix is usually peat moss based mixed with a good amount of pearlite and other stuff. The soil stays pretty moist for a couple days even with the summer heat here in socal after a deep watering. I keep most of my plants under a 30% shade cloth. Would setting up a drip irrigation and follow a schedule like this but watering less be good still?
That’s a nice set of collections.
As your climate is about 15°F to 20°F cooler than mine, your container trees will definitely benefit from bubbler style frequent by small amount irrigation.
@@TropicalCentralValley Definitly seen a lot of videos on it. Should be pretty easy for me to set up. Your videos have probably been the most helpful I have seen in growing these 'difficult' to grow trees. Looking forward to more and have been watching tons of your content.
Thank you.
I kind of have been following this watering method with a royal poinciana seedling I planted. It gets full south and west sun, is only about 5 inches tall but has survived the last two months including this week's heat wave with no protection. Normally a seedling that small would have gotten fried by our afternoon summer sun but I give it a good hosing every day to keep the soil surface cool and moist. My ice cream banana tree has also benefitted from more watering without protection. Two leaves died and the south facing leaves have burned edges and look shredded but it didn't die and is still growing.
That’s wonderful. Your banana plant particularly will benefit greatly from the frequent watering.
Great information! Were there watering restrictions where you live during the drought?
Yes, for the past several years, due to the CA drought, we technically could water our lawn 2 days of the week.
Nice new intro!
Thank you. Literally placing the city of Visalia on the map.
Love your garden. Love your channel. Quick question: Which one of the two anonas, the squamosa (sugar apple) and the cherimoya (custard apple) can take the most sun? And out of curiosity, which one tastes the better in your opinion?
I recently got one of each. How much spacing would you suggest between the two?
Thank you. Both annona varieties taste great. I really can’t recommend one over the other until you have tried both.
The cherimoya can take slightly more sun.
In terms of spacing, give it at least 6 inches apart.
So glad I found your channel. Been watching many of your videos. I have similar climate as you. Also in central CA, a little south from Visalia. How do you keep your papaya alive through the winter? Especially the one in your front yard, the trunk is huge! I love planting them, but they due in the cold months. Thanks!!
Thank you. Papaya trees are surprisingly cold tolerant. That’s not to say the tree won’t suffer any frost damage, as they may, however, all of mine has always bounced back.
The tree naturally becomes more resilient each passing year. I’ve actually have a number of houses with papaya trees in their yards throughout the Central Valley.
Also in Central Valley, My papaya keeps dying in winter also. I’m convinced they died not because of frost but because of root rot from rain and extra watering. I’m going to cut back heavily in fall and then not water them at all this winter and see how they do.
One of the first things I do as preparations for winter is to eliminate or cut back on my watering.
Specific to papaya trees, I don’t water them at all during the winter.
Hi
I learnt a lot from your videos. Specially watering technique in Summer. Every year I killed lots of fruit trees because of over or under watering. I have lot of questions regarding dripping heads. How many gallons of dropper head should we use for my 15 gallon sized fruit trees when I follow the watering directions you gave like 6 am to 7 pm 3 minutes each session? Pls give me suggestions for potted plants and in ground plant regarding the size of the dripping head. I saw there are 1 to 4 gallons per hour dripping head available in Home Depot. Also I use MG all purpose fertilizer 1 cup for big trees 3 season a year, but most of the time these burn my leaves badly. What fertilizer should I can use? Please advise. Thanks a ton.
Concerning the water head, it’s hard to say as I do not know the growing medium/soil that you use. Growing medium/soil that is well draining will certainly use more water.
In general, container grown trees should be able to handle all the water you give it, as any excess water should simply drain out.
Assuming MG is Miracle-Gro, I would avoid the use of any synthetic fertilizer as they can result in root burn due to the high concentration. I have had great success with the use of general organic fertilizer.
Thank you. I use top soil from Home Depot which I mixed with cow manure for my garden. Sometimes I use Miracle grow garden soil or soil from Costco. What is a good organic general fertilizer? You didn’t mention the name you use. Also Could you pls tell me temperature wise watering techniques like in Summer when temperatures goes 90 and up . Also in Spring when temperatures in between 65 to 85, and also in Fall. How many times and how many days? I Will really appreciate.
Instead of using store bought soil, I would recommend you make your own. My go to has been a mixture of peat moss, sand and native dirt (for in ground trees). Here’s a video that covers this topic:
th-cam.com/video/mMYnwPC4_AU/w-d-xo.html
As for fertilizer, I would NOT mix it into your soil and instead, apply it on top, as a dressing after the tree has been planted.
By definition, any organic fertilizer will work. That said, I have had great success with Dr. Earth and Holly-tone products.
Concerning the use of chicken or cow manure, bear in mind, not all tropical fruit trees can handle the amount of nitrogen, particularly mango trees. For this reason, the only times I apply it are to my banana, citrus and guava trees who are all heavy feeders.
Thanks for your reply. I have few more questions to ask. Please suggest me a water schedule for my plants, trees for Spring, Summer and Fall. I have 2 gallon dripper heads for big trees and 1 gallon and 1/2 gallon for smaller plants.
Without knowing your soil conditions, especially it’s drainage factor, it would be irresponsible of me to give you an exact number.
I would test it out, by perhaps watering your trees every hour, for 2 minutes, 12 times a day. If your soil is still somewhat dry, try increasing it until your soil remains moist (not wet) in between watering.
For reference, as my soil is relatively well draining, I’m able to get away with watering my yard 6am to 7pm daily, with each watering session being 5 minutes long.
Hopefully someone can answer my questions. If you are using sprayers in your irrigation (1 ft. tall - 360 degrees), is there a problem getting the trees' trunks wet? I have a drip line around the tree's drip line, and I also place sprayers in between trees to get the surrounding area moist to promote outward root growth. Thank you in advance!
Near the various trees, I do not use a sprayer and instead, use a bubbler system which pushes out water instead of misting/spraying it. That said, I do have some sprayers near my other plants and flowers. In my case, as I practice super dense planting of trees, the nearby trees have no issues reaching out to nearby bubblers.
The trunk of trees getting wet is a bit overblown. In addition to my irrigation system, I routinely hose down my trees and often wetting the trunk. In the natural forest/jungle, rain will eventually touch the trunk of trees, particularly in the raining season where flooding occurs.
I like this video and glad you posted it. I've been deep watering and I'm slowly starting to rethink that method. I use the same amount of water as you and I have a fraction of the trees you do. Looks like you have a "hydrant" that you created back there with a water filter and 3 hoses coming off of it. I am looking into doing something like that. I have a 6 valve irrigation system that does most of my watering and I've been looking into how I can put a filter (and allow it to be easily removable) on the line before it gets to the values. What do you have going on yours?
I have an in-line filter connected to the standard garden spigot/faucet. From there, there are 4 spigot/faucets that are attached. This allows all four hoses to use the filtered water, which I believe will cause less harm to the microorganisms in my yard.
do you happen to have a picture of the taro piece you planted for your giant taro plants ?
It was actually a root that i had purchased from my local ethnic grocery store. They’ll grow without issues. Just look for giant taro roots.
My garden does not have any area of peatmoss (tropical soil) . I'm planning on trying cherimoya's after seeing your recent video.
would it be better to keep one section just for the tropical soil area and leave the rest for my figs pomegranates etc in their own area ?
if so how deep should the peatmoss section be for a 2-3 ft cherimoya ?...thanks
In the long term, I would advise against the creation of island soil.
If grown from seeds, cherimoya will tolerant alkaline soil.
I would not focus too much on the deep as the tree does need to breath.
@@TropicalCentralValley thanks to you I found some nurseries near where I live , but I've lost SO many cherimoya's that this time I thought the soil should be changed from my regular potting soil. to avoid losing these ?
I’d definitely avoid any soil that contains organic material such as the ones sold in my nurseries.
Aim for peat moss, sand and native dirt. DO NOT add compost, wood based “soil” into the mixture.
@@TropicalCentralValley no "potting soil"?
same for mangoes ? I have 1 tree thats struggling so maybe its that potting soil ?
Yeah, I’d definitely would not use any soil that contains organic products, particularly wood based soil.
Here’s a video I made that goes into details about soil:
th-cam.com/video/TbQZJpZxMJw/w-d-xo.html
How much do you think we should water the tropical tree in the Central Valley during fall and winter?
It really depends on your environment and soil, but as the weather is cooling down, I’ve turned down my watering by 80%.
For instance, instead of watering my trees every hour for 3 minutes during the summer months, I’m only watering now twice a day, for a few minutes each.
Gray water is legal in CA now for shower and laundry. Just use natural soap
I didn’t know it was illegal, but good to know.
Seems like a lot of trouble to reroute my drainage system to hydrate my trees while in the process possibly causing harm to the organisms helping to keep the trees alive.
Not all natural things are good. Neem oil is a good example.
@@TropicalCentralValley there are ways to filter out the surfactants with gravel and plants. There are professionals who specialize in setting these up or plenty of videos for diy
Thanks for the tips, but given the amount of water utilized to hydrate my trees, I think I’ll stay my course.
This reminds me of those super expensive household countertop style compost bins where food scrape can be tossed into and be turned into compost, however, my $5 counter bin achieves the same result.
We have water restrictions in Texas when we have a drought. This was very informative though! I live in North Texas (zone 8a) and have recently purchased a sugar apple and mango tree to grow in pots. What size of pots would you use for these trees? I see all of your pots are shallow and wide.
There are two trains of thoughts on the growing of tropical fruit trees in containers. Some say you should grow them in “comfortable” yet small containers and just keep upsizing the container as the tree grows.
That said, I have had no issues with growing them in larger, 25 gallon containers, even for small trees. The trick is to ensure your growing medium is well draining and do not break down.
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you!
You’re very welcome.
Good morning , there's a guy from Melbourne who has a channel called "real life fruitopia" . I just watched " Back from travel late winter garden" pt 1 & 2 . Basically he went to warm up elsewhere to avoid the cold winter. Came home and gives a tour of all his mostly tropical fruit trees and the damage from the cold . Check it out if you haven't already, thanks
I’ve seen the video. Been a subscriber of his channel. The issue with Melbourne is their climate is closer to USDA Zone 10, which rarely gets any frosts.
@@TropicalCentralValley nice
Which zone is your garden locates? Thanks
USDA Zone 9b…and we’re true to seed on that. Our winters are typically in the low to mid-30°s in December and January. It was 28° for several days last week and forecasted to be 31° and 32° next week.
There’s nothing quite like stressing out the trees for better cold performance next year.
Do you ever get large numbers of cobwebs growing all over your trees and bushes?? I always have cobwebs start taking over my stuff it sucks lol
I actually do not. My yard now has its own ecosystem. I have birds in my yard that I have never seen before, as well as small lizards. I presume they keep the bugs in check.
Could you recommend trees that are less messy and could provide shades? Backyard has a pool
Almost all tropical fruit trees are evergreen and do not lose their foliage. That being the case, many of the sapote and sapodilla trees may be good candidates for your situation.
The Jamun (AKA Duhat, Java Plum) may be a good candidate. It grows incredibly fast and it’s foliage is very attractive.
i thought deep watering grows deep roots
That’s what most folks initially thought, however, this doesn’t make sense as the deeper you go, the less oxygen is available to the roots. Trees very much prefer oxygen than water.
@TropicalCentralValley true 🤔, I'm guessing feeder roots love the surface and get the nutrients, while the deeper root act more like an anchor and get water when feeder roots are not able to and maybe some minerals. But I think it's better to have it constantly wet that way. The feeder roots are taking up more nutrients since feeder roots tend to be more numerous
Yeah, most tropical fruit trees have long tap roots that anchor the tree, for structural support. For the most part, these tap roots can be flooded without negatively affecting the tree, however, the shallow, feeder roots are what is keeping the tree fed and alive.
In clay soil, if flooding the entire root, the feeder roots will likely starve of oxygen.
Where can I buy an ice cream bean tree? Thankz!
My first one (the tall one) was purchased online, however, my other ones all came from Mimosa Nursery in LA.
Would you water a Persimmon seedling tree the same as a tropical tree?
Yes, the frequent watering method really applies to all trees.
Guessing it is much cooler in your forest than your neighbor's yard.
Definitely. The trees do a phenomenal job of cooling my place.
Are you growing any pawpaw trees?
I do, though, it’s in a container. It’s not a super fan of our climate as it burns easily.