Here in Brazil the Lucioli is pretty much our best and only option cost/performance wise for the rear. Usually I lube it really well with tire soap when assembling, I've changed countless tires this way and I´ve yet to change a tube, so I don´t really know how long they´re able to last this way. The ability to change pressures anyway you want is a big plus.
Tubliss is a possible alternative and can easily be plugged with cheap plug kit whilst on trail. But if your running soft compound tyre it's easy to slice/split the tire wall and game over, which happens regularly on training days we run.
@@lukekelly5115 it depends on the pressure you use. I use tubliss on an mx track at 12 psi and trails at 10, hard technical stuff at 6. I never destroyed my tire.
What’ a ridiculous price, I was interested but I’ll stick to double tubing with 4mm tubes, I run down to 4psi and havnt had any issues and only cost 15£
Depends what your riding and how important grip is to you I suppose. If your looking to high speed then no these are not ideal. If you want maximum tyre squish and grip then happy days. Extreme Enduro is the keys words here
This is all new tech for me. I had to goog Michelin Mousse & Tubliss to find out what they are. All three if these have their pros & cons, but I'm too cheap to pay the prices any of these go for. Maybe I'm lucky, or don't ride too hard, but I haven't gotten a flat in many years.
Should check out the tube saddle. It’s a foam liner that protects from pinch flats. That’s what I use in the front with a standard HD tube. Lightweight and have yet to get a flat in 3 years of running it almost every weekend.
Thanks for the comment nvcmcrider8475 🤙. Lucioli are the same price as michelin bib mousse, but you need to weigh up the differences.... Mousses take time to run in and have a limited life, Lucioli are tested to over 300 hours and are ready to go out of the box.. Mousses are not dot approved, Lucioli are road legal... Mousses are for specific tyres sizes so you need different mousses for different tyres, lucioli will work in all enduro tyre sizes.. When a mousses is split or damaged there dead, lucioli can be repaired.
@@nvmcrider8475 once you lucioli you won't go back. For racing I had medium and soft mousses for both 120&140 rear and 90/90&90/100 front. That's 8 different mousses for different tyres. Best part of £1000 in mousses. Softs don't last long especially if your drilling to get the right feel. Now I just have lucioli that I can adjust pressure to suit (even out on the trail with small MTB pump) Easy 👌
@@user-oh1vo5kx4b you can't use normal glue on patches u need a vulcanising heat press machine to melt new rubber into tube. We are awaiting delivery of machine.
A MX tyre is measured across the knobs, but an enduro tyre is measured across the carcass, so it is possible for a 120 to be similar size to a 140 but only if they are different types of tyre.
Here in Brazil the Lucioli is pretty much our best and only option cost/performance wise for the rear. Usually I lube it really well with tire soap when assembling, I've changed countless tires this way and I´ve yet to change a tube, so I don´t really know how long they´re able to last this way. The ability to change pressures anyway you want is a big plus.
Tubliss for me, front and rear, for all the same reasons exept its way lighter and no rim locks to worry about. They last for ages if fitted well.
Tubliss is a possible alternative and can easily be plugged with cheap plug kit whilst on trail. But if your running soft compound tyre it's easy to slice/split the tire wall and game over, which happens regularly on training days we run.
Tubliss is for trail riders, you hit stuff hard enough its destroying a tire.
@@lukekelly5115 it depends on the pressure you use. I use tubliss on an mx track at 12 psi and trails at 10, hard technical stuff at 6. I never destroyed my tire.
@@sxmNice nah tires just don't hold up that long with severe use or speed especially over a square edge rock.
Tubliss up front with a Luci on the rear sounds about right to me...
How will these do in the dessert? In Arizona with the cactus?
so what about tubliss?
What’ a ridiculous price, I was interested but I’ll stick to double tubing with 4mm tubes, I run down to 4psi and havnt had any issues and only cost 15£
A video showing drilling the rim lock hole & installing it with a tire would be great.
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I like tublis for most of the same reasons but better handling, less weight and better rim protection.
i'm trying to figure out how adding 7lbs to both of your wheels will be a good idea ..... it's gonna handle like shz%t !!!!
Depends what your riding and how important grip is to you I suppose.
If your looking to high speed then no these are not ideal. If you want maximum tyre squish and grip then happy days. Extreme Enduro is the keys words here
100% agree. Significantly increased unsprung weight and rotational inertia add up to poor handling at any speed.
This is all new tech for me. I had to goog Michelin Mousse & Tubliss to find out what they are.
All three if these have their pros & cons, but I'm too cheap to pay the prices any of these go for.
Maybe I'm lucky, or don't ride too hard, but I haven't gotten a flat in many years.
Standard tubes fitted with rubber grease no flats over 2 years for real no bullshit cheap and effective
Should check out the tube saddle. It’s a foam liner that protects from pinch flats. That’s what I use in the front with a standard HD tube. Lightweight and have yet to get a flat in 3 years of running it almost every weekend.
Mitas Soft rear mousse weighes 1.3kg.
Im thinking this is the way to go. You have more control.
Just wondering what are you running on the front? I’m thinking off trying it out but still unsure.
We might not know how frequently you ride. How many rolling hours would you estimate equates “probably a year and a half”?
6-10 hours per week plus races.
Would these be suitable for a lightweight adventure bike? I do big distances sometimes 500 miles per day.
Not a problem we have sold many to T7 owners with great feedback. Largest rear tyre compatible would be 150/18.
I liked the idea of these but then I saw the price was more than mousse’s.
Thanks for the comment nvcmcrider8475 🤙. Lucioli are the same price as michelin bib mousse, but you need to weigh up the differences.... Mousses take time to run in and have a limited life, Lucioli are tested to over 300 hours and are ready to go out of the box.. Mousses are not dot approved, Lucioli are road legal... Mousses are for specific tyres sizes so you need different mousses for different tyres, lucioli will work in all enduro tyre sizes.. When a mousses is split or damaged there dead, lucioli can be repaired.
@@smxoffroad You make some good points, I may just give them a shot when it's time for my next tire change.
@@nvmcrider8475 once you lucioli you won't go back.
For racing I had medium and soft mousses for both 120&140 rear and 90/90&90/100 front. That's 8 different mousses for different tyres.
Best part of £1000 in mousses.
Softs don't last long especially if your drilling to get the right feel.
Now I just have lucioli that I can adjust pressure to suit (even out on the trail with small MTB pump)
Easy 👌
Run one for a year no problems then punctured three in four month back to Mousses
We will have rulcanizing repair machine here January 👍
I have tried repairing with normal patches never managed to get one to stay up
@@user-oh1vo5kx4b you can't use normal glue on patches u need a vulcanising heat press machine to melt new rubber into tube.
We are awaiting delivery of machine.
A 120 and a 140 are the same width.
No there not.
@@smxoffroad yes they are. A 140 is measured knob to knob. A 120 is measured in between the knobs.
@@BAYAREAMX have to disagree with you there bro. 120(140) is millimetres between tyre Walls, 80(90,100)is the percentage ratio of sidewall.
A MX tyre is measured across the knobs, but an enduro tyre is measured across the carcass, so it is possible for a 120 to be similar size to a 140 but only if they are different types of tyre.
What's the weight compared to mousse?
Watch the video it's all explained