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Installing Volspeed V4 onto my Cube Reaction Hybrid Pro E-bike ~
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- hi everyone and welcome back to the channel.
On this one, I am installing a Volspeed V4 tuning chip onto my Cube Reaction Hybrid Pro 625 E-bike. I purchased this tuning chip from Two Wheels Emprire which can be found here - www.twowheelsempire.com/
From there I followed the pages to find the correct product for my Bosch motor found on my bike.
I ordered and in a few days it arrived to my door. Follow the video for the installation and some real world testing with poor camera skills. I will find my head strap out for the gopro and do some better shots I promise.
Overall I have used this for about 3 or 4 miles now and its fantastic. The whole riding experience is drastically improved and I can now feel more confident in traffic now.
FULL DISCLAIMER - I know you can't use these on public road but from 15.5 to 20mph isn't a crazy jump.
Also the Volspeed V4 product is only limited to 45kmh or 27.9mph so the error code that comes up most times with the Speedbox 3 tuning chip is avoided with this limit being in place.
hope you enjoy, any questions just comment away or email me at nick.garton@hotmail.com
That looks like crazy fun!! Great job and video, good to see you enjoying yourself!!👍
Thank you Evan, apologies for the late reply. I'm going to work on the bike and it's great, can beat the light traffic and give myself a little exercise in the process 😄
Thank you buddy 👍
@@everydaywithmenick great job nick keep up the good job!! Always great to hear from you.
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Thank you 👌 I appreciate your comment. Have a great day 👍
@@everydaywithmenick can you change from the Bosch Purion Performance Line to Bosch Kiox as in can you buy the unit and just connect the wires ?
I agree you need more power when you are on the road . Thank you
@nav2009 yes I'm sure you can just change the display on them. Mine was a standard display when I got mine and it was fairly easy to change.
Just a little bit more is all it needs. 20mph I set it to on the road. Nice riding then.
Thanks for taking time to upload and review. The f you get chance it would be good to give everyone an update on how it’s been performing since installed.
Cheers 👍🏻
Hey Gordy and thank you for commenting. i will certainly provide an update on the Volspeed chip no problem. It has been great and i use it quite regular with it in operation.
but yes i will do a follow up video. Thank you again 👍
Yes please do a update on it
@lewisalex3964 I will do buddy 👍
Update please :)
@@johannesfossi5561 I will get am update for you ASAP
I have just ordered this exact model bike. I did as much research as I possibly could on the derestriction of the Bosch line of motors as I really want this. From all the evidence I have gathered, it does not matter whether you bypass with Speedbox, Volspeed or crank magnets, the software will know something is abnormal and will eventually disable the motor. I have seen videos of people using this Volspeed system and following all the guidelines, but they always fail, usually after a couple of hundred miles. There is also the warranty issue. Apparently the diagnostic reports will show tampering and will void the warranty.
Hey Simon and thank you for your comment.
Your research is well warranted because after all, these bikes ain't cheap and we want them to last a good time.
I have now put on my bike a little over 100miles and it's still performing like new. There's no change when I'm in normal operation or tuning chip turned on mode. All works great 👍
I understand the warranty status but let's be honest, if there was an issue, my local bike shop will just send the motor away and I pay for the repair as easy as that. These units are made elsewhere for other countries to go faster, it's just the UK laws that govern them to be restricted.
Overall I am happy with the Volspeed tuning chip for sure 😊
Thank you for commenting 👍
I'm in this exact situation right now, can you give us a report on how your bike is?
Well mate, I have the same chip fitted to my cube reaction performance & it’s done approx 4k miles! Also when the motor bearings packed up I removed the chip & had a new motor fitted under warranty so I can only assume that the software doesn’t detect the chip at all!
@@petewoodhead4449was this with a Bosch CX Smart System?
Very informative thanks. Any chance of a link to the mudguards please? Thanks keep up the good work.
Thank you for commenting 👍 here is the link www.cjperformancecycles.com/accessories/mudguards/acid-vane-pure-29in-rear-mudguard-in-green__115492?currency=GBP&chosenAttribute=92957&gclid=CjwKCAjw6eWnBhAKEiwADpnw9l0GuIclpaohge1LjPOAJuD5b0qPH8q1AzB84aOZ7AUtniLrdgAqthoCuLgQAvD_BwE
Thank you again 👍
Great content. Where did you get the updated Bosch display and was it easy to fit?
Hey David, so the new head unit is the Bosch Nyon 2 and it can be fitted to most bosch unit as an upgrade. It did require the motor housing covers to be removed and wires plugged in and ran back up the frame to the new unit. It was a bit fiddly but definitely do-able.
Thank you again 👍
Good video Nick, I also have the NYON. A great bit of kit. I got it so i could customize my ride modes. When you have the chip turned on, does the custom ride mode configuration show the higher speeds? It would be great to customise Turbo only for 45kph and leave the rest at 25. Or set the other modes to any other speed higher than 25kph. Can you confirm this?
Think I’d get some automotive cable harness tape to wrap the wires in. A bit fiddly but worth stopping any chaffing. All the OEM cables are sleeved for a reason down there. Just saying 😊
You've got a good point there Andy. Problem is, there's not much room down there for anything more bulky. But a good shout none the less.
Thanks for commenting buddy 👍
I have the cube reaction hybrid pro 6 625 2024 model does anyone know if it will work on it? I keep getting told it’ll block the motor so I’m a little on the fence with trying it
Please can we get a follow up video on how’s it’s working? Like any problems or anything? Thanks mate
Sure thing buddy, im going out on it more again now the nights are lighter and also when the weather is better and not raining.
I have had zero issues with it though, its been awesome.
Thank you for commenting.
I have got a 2023 Cube Reaction Performance 625 as well. I'm not sure what Gen motor I have whether it's the 3 or 4 as I have seen from your comments some have the Gen 3 and some have the Gen 4 with the 2023 model.
But also I'm not sure if it's a smart device either lol
I have been told that it is, I just don't want to purchase and possibly fit tye wrong chip.
Any information would be greatly appreciated 👍
17:48 - what do you mean by having to pay to unlock riding modes? Is that a part of the volspeed unlock?
So the custom modes are an extra purchase but the standard riding modes are as standard and come with the the bike. You dont need to purchase the custom option. The Volspeed has no impact on any of these.
Hope this helps 👍
It's how these bikes should've been to start with, also much safer pulling away from trafic when in big intersections or round abouts.
Hey and thanks for commenting 👍 I agree with you fully, they should be this at legal speeds of 20mph. The brakes are more than powerful enough to stop these bikes.
I can keep up with most traffic and like you said can get of junctions much safer now. I have mine set at 20mph and that is completely fine for me. However it can be maxed at 27.9mph.
@@everydaywithmenick yeah if these bikes were just like the US I'd be happy. I'm okay with the 25km/h most of the time even during long rides, and I only use the boost in big round abouts and there's this straight 5km road in a forest on my commute that's way less boring now.
@Yassine Kaouane yeah that be awesome if we had similar laws to USA regarding ebikes but hey the UK government is a bunch of cotton wool wrapped pansies.
My commute to work is only 2miles but I can do that now in 6mins. It takes me 10 in the van 😄
Yep, 20mph would be a lot safer. Whoever set that limit was clearly not a cyclist!
@papalegba6796 no clearly not but that's what the UK government has set, boooo
Hey did you buy the screen separately or was it included with the speed box?
No I upgraded to the Bosch Nyon display. That is extra. It can provide much more information more than the standard display. It all depends what you want from your display. It doesn't link to your phone so you can't see texts or answer phone calls etc.
The Volspeed chip is also great and unlocks the bike up to 29mph.
Thanks for commenting 👍
Hello. Do you have to use turbo mode to go above the 15.5 limit or it functions with tour,eco etc also?
Hi and apologies for not replying sooner, no you dont have to use turbo to achieve faster speeds, you can use eco, tour or emtb and can still achieve the desired set speed you have set. I use tour a lot and i still have to put the effort in to get me there.
I hope this helps your question 👍
Hi, will it work without the Bosch Nyon display? thanks..
Yes the chip will work without the Nyon, you can use the standard controls that come with the bike.
Thank for commenting 👍
ive bought the hybrid cube reaction pro 625 but the 2023 version. its 4th gen motor but it doesnt have the screen your bike comes with as standard. i wonder if the volspeed would work with my bike
Hey Michael 👋 thank you for commenting and congratulations on your new bike. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
I upgraded my display to the Nyon myself, it didn't come with that screen as standard.
Yes Volspeed should work even with the standard controls. On their website they have tuning chips for all versions of the Bosch unit. My motor is gen 4 and the chip works great, if yours is the smart version then you'd have to make sure to get the smart chip.
Hope this helps buddy 👍
@@everydaywithmenick hi and thank you for sharing this. I would like to upgrade my purion to a nyon (on my 2022 hybrid reaction pro). Is that easy to change the cable from the purion one to the nyon one ? thanks
did you fit one in the end michael? how was it?
Looks good, interested in getting one for my Cube Reaction Pro. Have you tried the SR Suntour SP12-NCX suspension seatpost? Just got one and it seems good. 👍
The Volspeed chip has been awesome and can be fully customised for your speed. Also the ability to turn it on and off when ever you want during your ride.
I have noticed they are doing them for the Bosch smart systems now so that's a bonus for the newer bikes.
I haven't used that seat post buddy but I have been thinking of a suspension seat post. Does it make a difference on a hardtail bike ?
@@everydaywithmenick it certainly seems to make journeys more comfortable. Doesn't make it a full sus as a bike but makes rides more comfortable. Worthwhile in my opinion.
@@guychesshire how did it fit ok on your reaction as I had to cut the seat post down a little to allow for my height on the bike. That's the only issue I think I'll have.
@@everydaywithmenick that is the slight issue. What size frame do you have? I have a large frame and can measure from the floor to the seat if it helps you to compare to your ride height?
@everydaywithmenick it is 97cm from the floor to the top of the seat
How far is your commute? Your bike cruises. 27 is more than fast enough to get me hurt lol. Someday I'll get my wife and I a pair of bikes. Great video buddy.
Hey Jerry, my commute is only 2miles but up and down some long grade hills and during the lighter mornings and sunny (only sometimes) evenings ride to work and back.
When i get chance i also get out and get a good ride in too, at least 20miles generally.
Yes you and wife will enjoy the riding experience of the electric bikes, it just takes the full strain out of the ride.
Thank you again buddy, this video is for the people who want or are thinking of adding a tuning chip to their e-bike.
How heavy are you? What other options of the eBike did you consider buying?
I'm 17 stone in weight, I flout about that but generally get to 16st when in the summer. Still over weight of course 🤣
I just looked at anything with the Bosch systems as I watched all the head to heads regarding motors and Bosch was night and day different to others on the market.
Cube just came in at a good price and plenty of good components on them too.
I hope this helps, thank you for commenting 👍
Will it remember to stay in 20.5 after turning off the bike?
No it wont, you have to engage the chip everytime to get it to the desired speed.
I'm looking at a lot of Cube related videos because I'm probably going to be the owner of a Cube Kathmandu 750 also with 85nm soon o. Because I'm a tall 2 metres (just under 6'7) and something over 120kg the bike shop has to get back to me on the availability of the 62cm largest frame size.
The 12 gear derailleur for optimising both the amount of gears available with the various motor assist levels AND for cycling whenever possible without any assist made me choose Cube over other brands. Hopefully it will be the right decision. And the 85nm of torque will be essential for propelling my 120kg+ and up to another 30kg of luggage/cargo up the hills and into those headwinds which really slow me down.
I average 20 kmh over a 20 km commute on an ordinary heavily laden basic hybrid bike. I'm easily averaging 30 on the flats but those hills really slow me down. I don't wear any sports gear and just ride in normal but appropriate clothing and not pushing for performance.
I'm in Ireland and the same Europe wide speed restrictions apply here too. 25 kmh is too slow for the open road. The same motors are fitted to the same bikes sold in jurisdictions that have higher speed limitations so that's not a problem.
Of course some people will always abuse that higher speed in circumstances where it's not safe. I hate that. Speed restrictions are entirely justified for cycling and shared pathways. But for me, I would want it for commuting on the open roads with no bike lanes or hard shoulders mixing it with traffic for up to 20km commutes.
The only reason I won't buy a device like the Volspeed straight away is because if you use it, you immediately void the two year warranty for the motor. The fact that you used it at all will be recorded in the Bosch system so once you use it at all, there's no going back from what I've been told. That's an expensive risk to take straight off the bat. Perhaps after a year I might? We'll see?
I intend to own this bike for a long time unless I sell it or gift it on. That's another reason I went for the Bosch system. I'm reassured by the bike shop that all Bosch motors, batteries and parts should still be available for repairs and replacements ten years and more from now. That can't be said for most other manufacturers. I personally know a couple who bought two matching generic branded e-bikes for almost €2k each. After about two years they had both developed faults and parts couldn't be obtained. Then they were just high value recycling 🥺😠
Great informative videos and very well done 💯
I have the Cube Katmandu 750 SLT. Very happy with it. Also fitted the volspeed chip and it is a game changer.
@@dbcooper7326 Do you have any concerns that if you have any technical problems with the Bosch system you have now completely invalidated the two year warranty?
That's my only reason for not immediately going de-restricted straight away. I haven't got the bike yet but the owner of the bike shop even said I could do it but it would immediately void the warranty. It seems like an awful lot of people are going de-restricted no matter what the laws are.
Wow that was a very valid comment and thank you for commenting.
I know i have voided the warranty on the motor but im enjoying the bike so much more than the standard 15mph limit. I set mine at 20mph and its allowed me to keep up through most traffic zones when commuting to work.
If the motor ever developed a fault, i would just send the motor off for repair and yes they will know the chip has been used, but as you said, other countries allow this motor to be much faster as standard.
Without doubt, the value for money with the Cube bikes, theyre ideal for anyone and have some top notch components, you wont be dissapointed.
@@everydaywithmenick Thanks for your response too. 👍
Unfortunately i have just been told by the bike shop that Cube won't have any new 62cm frames manufactured until after week 20 of this year so it will probably be May or June of this year until I can get my hands on one. And I will have to see how the Bike to Work scheme I was intending to take advantage of will be that late in the tax year too.
I prefer to buy from a local shop also, a: to support local businesses and b: if there are any issues they will be best at sorting them out. Looks like I'm going to stay legitimately manual only for another while.
Enjoy your cycling and stay safe on the roads.
Somewhere in the comments on this vid a lad says he had his chipped and had the motor replaced under warranty with no issue.
Hi, how is the front suspension? I am undecided to go for the pro or race..
Hi Mark, im not sure i can give you good advice on the front suspension as i dont really know enough about them. All i would say is get the air pressure correct in the forks by a bike shop.
Sorry to be unhelpfull.
Cheers Nick 👍
So a month on...how has it been with the bike. Any problems? What kind of mileage are you getting on the bike in eco setting?
Hey buddy 👋 thank you for commenting 👍 it has been great with no issues at all. I use it about 5 times a week going to work and it's never faulted.
I'll have to check next time for eco but I've got a lot of hills around me and when I'm going to work I tend to put it in "turbo" mode just to get me to work quicker 😄 ill get reduced miles obviously because I have it set at 22.9mph so the motor works a bit more to get you to that speed. I flit between 20mph and 22.9mph either way it hasn't been an issue. Easy to activate and deactivate. I'll have to do a follow up video now for it as I bet others are curious too.
Thank you again 👍
Hi, I've just ordered one. So as my bike is coming to the end of the 2 year warranty I thought I'll get one. My bike rides can go up to 45 miles long. But I would expect the battery to last if I was going above 25 or more. It will be interesting when I set the limit and most of my riding is on eco.
@uppy73 that's great, who did you use ?
We did a 47mile ride about 3 weeks ago and I had it on tour primarily and still come home with 40% but had the speed set at 20mph. Again I turned the motor off when I was going down long hills etc
I think you'll love it. I didn't even wait for my warranty to be up, I just did it.
@@uppy73 Hi. I know that there are lots of variables in different types of riding terrain etc but what kind of mileages are you getting on eco mode?
Cheers 👍
Does this increase noise from the motor?
Heyy 👋 I can't comment too much on that as I always wear ear buds playing music but I'd think it would increase motor noise slightly as its working more.
Sorry I can't help anymore
Thanks for commenting 👍
It doesn’t make my motor any louder at all mate!
What kinda range are you getting after installing this speedunlocker?
i can get about 50miles in ECO but you must be conservative, i dont always have the motor turned on and can ride the bike without the motor on flat roads or trails etc.
On TURBO and 20mph set it will do about 9miles it says.
Hope this helps and thanks for commenting 👍
@@everydaywithmenick thanks for the reply! 9 miles sure is not a lot, with a 625wh battery, I wonder how that is even possible..
@@HenrikdaMURDERERER that is with the chip set at about 22mph so if it was only standard at 15mph then im sure it will be more.
Ill have to do an update.
@@everydaywithmenick Hi. How much drag do you feel from the motor when you're pedalling with the motor turned off?
Cheers 👍
Any update on this? want to pull the trigger on one but i'm worried that it might give the dreaded error code!
Fear not with this unit, i have many miles of trouble free riding and is has not thrown a error code yet, my pal has done more than me with his Volspeed chip and he has had no issues at all.
It can only go to 29mph but that is so the error code doesnt show its face.
Thank you for commenting, go ahead and make the purchase buddy 👍
@@everydaywithmenick You are a legend.. thanks for the update, nice to hear something from someone with long term usage, and that's not trying to sell me one! Thanks again 👍
@bunkem1 not a problem at all pal, no I'm not getting anything back from this product. Only my enjoyment and knowledge being passed on to other. I'll be getting back out soon now the nights are getting lighter.
That’s why they limit the speed or assistance to 45kph as anything above that causes error codes!
@@petewoodhead4449 thats correct buddy, anything over 29mph throws error codes.
You got a link for them mud guards please mate ?
Apologies Josh for the delay, here is the link www.bikester.co.uk/cube-acid-vane-mudguard-29-front-M774620.html?vgid=G1072274
They go with the bike very nicely.
Thank you for commenting 👍
@@everydaywithmenick legend cheers mate!! Just ordered them
@@joshyeo4919 nice job, have you got the same bike ?
@@everydaywithmenick just got the 2023 750 one pretty much the same love it specially with that new chip in it’s unreal how fast it is
@@joshyeo4919 very nice, i think you get a lot of bike for the money with Cube. I did a lot of shopping about when looking for my bike and thought Cube ticked a lot of boxes.
The 750 battery will be even better for you for the range also.
The Volspeed chip just unlocks the bike so much.
Try the chip on dynamic mode for work u won’t be disappointed - ++ - - 👍
Hey Stephen 👋 my modes on my bike are eco tour emtb and turbo. Wonder if your referring to the newer systems available now. But I will try it though. I'm on the bike at work tonight and will try it in the morning.
Thank you buddy 👍
@@everydaywithmenick u might be right I have the new Bosch smart system and use the v4 so it might be a new feature with the v4 for the smart system and kios300
@@wilko2907 you must have the newer Volspeed Bosch smart chip. I just got their email the other week.
How you finding yours ?
@@everydaywithmenick it’s fantastic no errors yet 🤞does basically what you’re does plus the dynamic mode give u more power across all speeds it’s fantastic
@@wilko2907 Is dynamic your top mode ? Like mine is turbo ?
Mine is the same, no errors. It just works great. My team leader bought the speedbox and that kept throwing errors for his. He sent his back.
Is your bike the smart system? I have a 2022 Trek Rail 7 gen 2 and am looking for ideas on the right system to install. Any recommendations?
Hey buddy and thank you for commenting, no mine isnt the smart system, its the system before the smart system.
If you go onto the website two wheel empire for the tuning chips, they will show you the correct chip needed.
I know they have a range of chips for all makes of bikes and motors.
I hope this helps 👍
I'm telling on you
ooh please dont 😞
Great informative bike upgrade, but you could do with upgrading your microphone as the sound quality is poor. 👍🏻
Thank you, I'm sorry about the audio. It was recorded on my new phone so I didn't think there was an issue. It has dual audio bands, so if you were listening with ear buds in one ear the audio doesn't play as one channel.
I try not to record too much on the phoen and rather be on the GoPro.
Thank you again 👍
Hi Nick
does this effect the warranty ?
Hey buddy 👋 yes it will void warranty on your bike or motor. I went and did it because i would just send the bike in to be serviced and if it requires something it will get it sorted.
Thank you again buddy.
All I did when I had a new motor fitted under warranty I just removed the chip then refitted it when I got the bike back! I can only assume the software doesn’t detect it!