That’s so interesting, the way Ciminelli explained it with the car analogy makes so much sense. It’s easier to stop, ergo hook harder, with less weight. I would have thought heavier meant less speed, which would mean more time to hook. The more you know
Light balls don't hook more because the lower weight also means less friction with the lane surface. Your previous intuition is correct, hooking is quite sensitive to ball speed
@@brianlawson1438 My statement applies ceteris paribus, not if someone revs the lighter ball more. Some of those Kegel centers have EARL or another Throwbot that could try multiple weights at the same speed and rev rate. Try throwing a ball lighter than 9 pounds and it doesn't wheel the lane unless you slow it down
I threw 15lb for 17 years. I dropped to 14lb the past year because of my elbow. Also, I'm a two finger, no thumb bowler. I found out I have more control at 14, and it hits no difference than the 15s did. Jmo
Packy!!!!!!! Can we PLEASE get a vlog of what you guys targeting routine and what you guys focus on at release from players would be dope to see the different variants!🤞🏾🙏🏾
Had some 14s and gave them away like 2yrs ago to new bowlers. One of them is on my league team and I throw my old ball sometimes and absolutely destroy with it. I have so much more control with my old Medusa when I first throw a game with it but I quickly go back to my 15lb when he is tired of me throwing his...
i have got a question. i ordered a new ball online and they somehow mess up my finger inserts color. would it be okay to remove the thumb inserts and re-use it in on a different ball? i dont wanna throw it away since they are new and not abused
Lol. This video reminds me of the last time I bowled. I was with a group of pep band members and dancers from our school during a basketball tournament. I threw some really lightweight balls (less than 10 pounds) but for some reason, after the second or third round, our balls weren’t returned to us, making us go grab new ones. I ended up grabbing like a 15-20 pound ball because that was the next lightest one available on the racks. I ended up doing a lot better with a heavier ball than the lighter one. A few things to note: I don’t run up and throw, I walk up to the line, pause and then throw; I watched a few random videos on bowling and oils on the lane the previous two three days (they randomly appeared in my TH-cam recommended); I have never been able to bowl straight down the lane regardless of whether it’s real or a video game, the weight of the ball, etc, so I was standing off-center for my throws, throwing slowing and contesting on trying to keep the ball as straight as possible when throwing. Everyone in the group thought it was hilarious that the balls not returning and us having to get new ones benefited me significantly because my scores were a lot higher. To be fair, I’m pretty competitive in “solo” sports that require strategy and/or aim (golf, darts, frisbee, basketball throwing).
5:50 speaking of heart rate, mine is usually around 68 when practicing, but it’s around 76-90 when I bowl with league I have to sit and work on my breathing during league nights to stay relaxed and calm 😅😅
I threw 16 for a few years. I felt good until I had an elbow injury, and after I recovered it felt like I needed to help the ball too much, since the diffs tend to be a fair amount lower than the 15s. Having dropped down to 15, it definitely takes much less effort to create more shape.
In terms of raw power, definitely the 16lb. But listen to Ciminelli’s explanation at 2:53. A 14 and 16 lb ball will read the lanes a lot differently, so there’s no way to tell if one is objectively better than the other; that’s down to the bowler and the pattern.
my main strike balls are 15lbs but my spare ball is 12lb because i get way more control over where i place it and i dont have to throw it as hard to get it down the lane fast.
I had 2 balls that were 16. Loved how it made me really roll the ball and only problem is it hit too hard and i left a lot of 8 pins. I am of course left handed
16# may sound like too much of a burden over time until one realizes that sooner is better than later for maintaining the strength to handle 16#. Dropping in weight before you "have to" may have a net downside as one ages
Bowl 2 whole games and just decide winner on a 3 shot roll-off seems less than ideal. But I do love the feel of the PBA league when it's on TV. Much more energy than the normal broadcasts. I know you all are bowling for your livelihood, but the golf-like quietness is bad for the sport. Hitting a baseball is a million times harder than throwing a bowling ball and they have fans going crazy the whole time. Bowling needs noise, in my opinion, to seem less boring to casuals. And if you don't start attracting the casuals the sport will not last.
I used to bowl with 14 and you do have to be a bit more accurate but it reacts the same as a 15 because of the core. It’ll feel lighter so you might feel like you can throw it faster but you gotta weigh the speed vs weight carry
Packy you should always be the closer. You need to fight for that spot. You’ve earned it don’t ever say someone else on team should close match. It’s your team own that be the leader and kick butt!
@@BornIn1500Well said. It's crazy when amateurs think they know more than touring pros. But fans of many different sports think they're more knowledgeable than pros or coaches or former players.
@@BornIn1500 somebody always needs to step up and be the man. There needs to be someone clutch the one you count on if you don’t have that on a team that team will fail.
Thanks for the consistent coverage throughout this tour season thus far. You guys are definitely providing the best coverage between the qualifying rounds, to the Elite League coverage, and the prelim finals show. ❤ 🎳
That’s so interesting, the way Ciminelli explained it with the car analogy makes so much sense. It’s easier to stop, ergo hook harder, with less weight. I would have thought heavier meant less speed, which would mean more time to hook. The more you know
I have a hard time taking any advice from a pba pro who’s constantly on the bottom of tournaments
Light balls don't hook more because the lower weight also means less friction with the lane surface. Your previous intuition is correct, hooking is quite sensitive to ball speed
Sorry fellas, I’m going to believe a 17 year PBA vet over some TH-cam replies lmao
@@coopergates9680
Incorrect, lighter weight higher rev rate, don't believe me go to a kegel center and test it out.
@@brianlawson1438 My statement applies ceteris paribus, not if someone revs the lighter ball more. Some of those Kegel centers have EARL or another Throwbot that could try multiple weights at the same speed and rev rate. Try throwing a ball lighter than 9 pounds and it doesn't wheel the lane unless you slow it down
I love Richie's happy, yet quirky personality.
wow....CIMINELLI's explanation was excellent...great work here HOUSE GANG!!!!
Love that packy ask if the guy loves his look what a good teammate
I threw 15lb for 17 years. I dropped to 14lb the past year because of my elbow. Also, I'm a two finger, no thumb bowler. I found out I have more control at 14, and it hits no difference than the 15s did. Jmo
Packy!!!!!!! Can we PLEASE get a vlog of what you guys targeting routine and what you guys focus on at release from players would be dope to see the different variants!🤞🏾🙏🏾
Had some 14s and gave them away like 2yrs ago to new bowlers. One of them is on my league team and I throw my old ball sometimes and absolutely destroy with it. I have so much more control with my old Medusa when I first throw a game with it but I quickly go back to my 15lb when he is tired of me throwing his...
This video is SOO INFORMATIVE, thank you for doing what you do Packy ❤❤
i have got a question. i ordered a new ball online and they somehow mess up my finger inserts color. would it be okay to remove the thumb inserts and re-use it in on a different ball? i dont wanna throw it away since they are new and not abused
I throw 16lbs. Great With Straighter Lane play. Once you get past 4th Arrow 16 doesn't bend the Corner Like 15lbs does from Deeper On The Lanes
Love the league bowling content by far the best bowling format in my eyes
Lol. This video reminds me of the last time I bowled. I was with a group of pep band members and dancers from our school during a basketball tournament. I threw some really lightweight balls (less than 10 pounds) but for some reason, after the second or third round, our balls weren’t returned to us, making us go grab new ones. I ended up grabbing like a 15-20 pound ball because that was the next lightest one available on the racks. I ended up doing a lot better with a heavier ball than the lighter one. A few things to note: I don’t run up and throw, I walk up to the line, pause and then throw; I watched a few random videos on bowling and oils on the lane the previous two three days (they randomly appeared in my TH-cam recommended); I have never been able to bowl straight down the lane regardless of whether it’s real or a video game, the weight of the ball, etc, so I was standing off-center for my throws, throwing slowing and contesting on trying to keep the ball as straight as possible when throwing. Everyone in the group thought it was hilarious that the balls not returning and us having to get new ones benefited me significantly because my scores were a lot higher. To be fair, I’m pretty competitive in “solo” sports that require strategy and/or aim (golf, darts, frisbee, basketball throwing).
5:50 speaking of heart rate, mine is usually around 68 when practicing, but it’s around 76-90 when I bowl with league I have to sit and work on my breathing during league nights to stay relaxed and calm 😅😅
The PBA league thing is cool. I like watching.
I threw 16 for a few years. I felt good until I had an elbow injury, and after I recovered it felt like I needed to help the ball too much, since the diffs tend to be a fair amount lower than the 15s. Having dropped down to 15, it definitely takes much less effort to create more shape.
That team huddle was great to see, even at pro level the rule is who has the best look
Could we have a 15 vs 16 black hammer video?
I started at 15 and my best friend started with 14 it’s always a fun debate between us
Which is hitting the pocket harder? A 14 pounder at 17 mph or a 16 at 16.40 mph
the 16 lb. ball will have more power, drive- and this is big.....much less deflection- which is extremely important on light pocket hits.
@@roboneil408 thank you
In terms of raw power, definitely the 16lb. But listen to Ciminelli’s explanation at 2:53. A 14 and 16 lb ball will read the lanes a lot differently, so there’s no way to tell if one is objectively better than the other; that’s down to the bowler and the pattern.
my main strike balls are 15lbs but my spare ball is 12lb because i get way more control over where i place it and i dont have to throw it as hard to get it down the lane fast.
Why do you need to throw a spare ball fast?
What is name of song Keven made for Belmo?
I had 2 balls that were 16. Loved how it made me really roll the ball and only problem is it hit too hard and i left a lot of 8 pins. I am of course left handed
I threw 14 pounds for 2 weeks and left a lot of 5 pins hitting the pocket . I’m also
Left handed
I couldn't go down to 14. I would be throwing it too hard for my Revrate.
Zach Wilkins doing the captain ginyu pose after his release is amazing
i wanna try 16 ibs
Are there any pro bowlers that throw 13? My wrist started hurting to a point where I cannot throw even a 14 as effectively as I used to.
Started with a 15 tore a muscle in my wrist now I throw 13
16# may sound like too much of a burden over time until one realizes that sooner is better than later for maintaining the strength to handle 16#. Dropping in weight before you "have to" may have a net downside as one ages
I throw 15. And anyone know how to sign up for teams?
Where is Santtu this year?
Santu was injured when they did the team draft.
Cool video talk tech bowling packy tournament
Elite league, elite team chemistry, but none above NJ. You’ve all gelled so well, cool to watch every time out.
Very very interesting
My best series ever was thrown with a 14.5 lb ball
14.5??? Thats not even heard of wtf lol
@@Bdubs007 14 lb 10oz then drilled
@@KK-pb1xn show me a link that says an altered ball to any pound to .5 is legal. I never heard of this
Your gonna love the way you look, I Gurantee it!
1:15 in the bathroom?
I tried 14 and it just deflect more
Bowl 2 whole games and just decide winner on a 3 shot roll-off seems less than ideal. But I do love the feel of the PBA league when it's on TV. Much more energy than the normal broadcasts. I know you all are bowling for your livelihood, but the golf-like quietness is bad for the sport. Hitting a baseball is a million times harder than throwing a bowling ball and they have fans going crazy the whole time. Bowling needs noise, in my opinion, to seem less boring to casuals. And if you don't start attracting the casuals the sport will not last.
But MEN drive the Dodge RAM, not the Corolla🤣😂🤣🤔
Del Ballard looks lost.
If I dropped down to 14, my ball would hit like a pillow.
Try it and see what happens.
I used to bowl with 14 and you do have to be a bit more accurate but it reacts the same as a 15 because of the core. It’ll feel lighter so you might feel like you can throw it faster but you gotta weigh the speed vs weight carry
I have both 14lb and 15lb balls and they hit the samw
McCune uses 16? Guy still throws fucking missiles
Packy you should always be the closer. You need to fight for that spot. You’ve earned it don’t ever say someone else on team should close match. It’s your team own that be the leader and kick butt!
except it's not "his" team. And how did he "earn" it? And if someone else has a better look, then they should close. Simple as that.
@@BornIn1500Well said. It's crazy when amateurs think they know more than touring pros. But fans of many different sports think they're more knowledgeable than pros or coaches or former players.
@@BornIn1500 somebody always needs to step up and be the man. There needs to be someone clutch the one you count on if you don’t have that on a team that team will fail.
I bowled for 40 years…I can’t stand with 2 fingers
Can’t believe your as old as you are when all your comments have terrible grammar and you whine like a school girl
cry about it. every sport evolves
@@calebkidd it DEvolves
@@zacharysmith8902 🤣🤣 bowling has significantly grown bc of 2 handed🤣 pretty sure that’s EVOLVING
I agree..it as DEvolved
Thanks for the consistent coverage throughout this tour season thus far. You guys are definitely providing the best coverage between the qualifying rounds, to the Elite League coverage, and the prelim finals show. ❤ 🎳