Brilliant analysis by dr Istiaq Ahmed. He is the most authentic commentator, providing references, to all his narrative. One has to go through his books to get an amazing and judicious account on partition and Mr Jinnah.
WHO break the mother land India on false grounds and (WHY) that lead to blood shed in PUNJAB on misunderstanding of Lahore & amertsar weather these cities were part of India or Pakistan which were totally undecided on 13 August 1947
That comment is so wrong on so many levels. What do you mean by "HUM". for starter; The democratic government who represented "HUM" in NWFP and SINDH were dissolved by Jinnah.
@@SyedAZafar-ji9gm bhai yeh islam aur Pakistan ka "dushman" aur "dost" ke certificate bantne ka ekhtiar apko kis ne deya hai??? Aur Mashallah Psychologist bhe hain aur ? Are bhai Evidence ke sath bath karne ka saleeka seekho; Sanity esse ko kehte hain. Critical Evidence. Yeh kia baat huwe keh muje baat pasand nahe aaye tho yeh lo mere taraf se "islam dushman" ke certificate le lo...ye hai InSanity
MY FATHER WAS FROM "BATALA PUNJAB", HE HAD GOOD CHILDHOOD SIKH AND HINDU FRIENDS, AND THEY WERE THE ONE WHO SAVED MY FATHERS LIFE. AS OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS REACHED PAKISTAN AFTER A HARDSHIP, MY GRANDMOTHER EXPLAINED IT ALL ROADS WERE COVERED WITH DEAD BODIES, WHY? AND THIS HATRED SEED BETWEEN TWO COUNTRIES NEVER VANISHED WHY?
Dr. Ishtiaq needs to admit that he is a Punjabi Nationalist, and that's the reason why he has turned against the ideology of Pakistan. He wants to see Pakistani Punjab independent and then merge with Indian Khalistan.
It is wrong to suggest that Jinnah outwitted Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and Azad with his brilliance. He only succeeded because he and Iqbal was working on the colonial plan to partition India. Partition was planned after 1857 revolt, a class of Elite Muslims were groomed with another British stooge Sir Syed, with his Aligarh college/ University. Then formation of Muslim league with all known British stooges l, like Sir Aga Khan, Sir Salimullah etc. we all know why people were knighted. You won’t find any Hindu leader who was knighted, except Tagore, but he renounced the award after Julian Wala Bagh massacre. But our Sir Iqbal, another stooge happily accepted knighthood after the above massacre shamelessly. Without colonial backing, without the absurd formula of separate electorate system, Jinnah wouldn’t have won a Municipal election, let alone getting Pakistan.
He wants to avoid getting lyched, so thats understandable that he need s to balance his book about Jinnah. It is obvious from all his videos that he viewed Jinnah as a very short sighted, egotistical man, who created a country out of sheer spite and personal ego and ofcourse $$$ from his rich Muslim landlord patrons
whats going on? why misguiding youth, M.A.Jinnah was wrong. Allama Iqbal was wrong, Sahab a kiram were wrong, Religious Philosophers (Sofiya kiram)were wrong , 4 faqih imam were wrong, what is left with us? better you go back to atheism instead you insulting all your heads who brought from dark to light
All of what you said is true, all were wrong, if you want to prove him wrong, write a book with evidence like he did. Bibliography is important. Evidence matters.
Jinnah as GG appropriated undue power; dismissed provincial gov, but remember Pakistan was borne into a chaos and many believed that the country would not survive. It was the Korean War that helped Pakistan stand on its feet. Pakistan quickly joined the American camp and got eco military aid to move forward. Till the 1970s Pakistan was more prosperous than India. With Afghan Jihad started Pakistan’s decline thanks to usurpation of power by the military. Military appropriated more and more power at every step and today there is no constitutional institution that is intact to play its due role.
پولیٹیکل سائنٹٹ ہوتے ہوئے ڈاکٹر صاحب کو آج کے حالات پر بھی بات کرنی چاہیے۔ لیکن جمہوریت کے حق میں زوردار آواز آپ نہیں بنتے۔ صرف 1947 کی سیاست تک اپنے آپ کو محدود کرتے ہیں۔ شائد وہ یہ رسک نہیں لینا چاہتے کہ کہیں خلائی مخلوق ان کے پیچھے نہ پڑ جائے۔ ہاہاہا۔۔۔۔۔
@@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf I wouldn't be surprised if some college/ university in Pakistan appoints him a Professor. I just wanted to know if that has really happened. 😂
I agree with Dr. Ishtiaq. Jinnah has hurt Muslims like no other person in the past 1000 years. He divided us. Not a single thing I can think of this man, which is positive.
Mullahs can create difference among different sect they have no vision ort they can create state like Afghanistan where they ruled with iron fist with no rights to anyone...or terrorism anyone oppose them they take of their head like ISIS or TTP.
We were separate nations essentially. My parents who lived in UP and Delhi only had Muslim friends. They lived in Muslim neighborhoods. They had Muslim servants. Rarely, they came across Hindus...maybe just in markets. They dressed differently. Ate different food. Studied different subjects. Spoke and write in a different language.
Devolution of power to the provinces in Pakistan is desirable; yet the provincial autonomy in the Cabinet Mission Plan is unreasonable. What a contradiction!
پروفیسر صاحب کی تحقیقی کتابیں کس مقصد کیلئے لکھی گئی ہیں ؟ جو کچھ ان میں درج ہے ہوسکتا ہے وہ من و عن صحیح بھی ہو لیکن میرا اختلاف اس بات پر ہے کہ آپ یہ کتابیں لکھ کر کس قسم کا ماحول پیدا کرنے کی کوشش کررہے ہیں ؟ بھارت نواز یہ پاکستان نواز ؟ کیا آپ خیر پہلا رہے ہیں یا شر؟ پاکستانیوں کو بتا رہے ہیں کہ تمہارے قائد نے بہت بڑی غلطی کی ہے جو ہندوستان کا بٹوارہ کروایا ۔ اب آپ نے پاکستان میں جمہوریت کی ناکامی بھی قائد کی کھاتے میں ڈال دی۔ ایک وقت آپ نے جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب کی تعریف کی کچھ عرصہ بعد آپ کو معلوم ہوا غامدی صاحب بھی لا علم آدمی ہیں ۔ جو گفتگو آپ کرتے ہیں وہ پاکستان کی بنیادیں ہلانے کے مترادف ہیں اور آ پ یہ کیوں کر رہے ہیں جبکہ بھارت میں ایک Radical سیاسی جماعت اقتدار پر قبضہ ہے۔ آ پ نے قائد پر ان کی ذات کے حوالے سے حملے کئے اور یہ کرکے آپ بہت نیچے گر گئے ہیں ۔ تاریخ واقعات کا 76 سال کے بعد بار بار ذکر کرنا ان پر تنقید کرنا بہت آسان ہے جبکہ خود اس دور میں رہ کر حقیقت کو تلاش کرنا بہت ہی مشکل بلکہ ناممکن کام ہے۔ تقریباً کوئی ایک دہائی سے میڈیا کے ذریعے پاکستانی عوام کو بتانے کی کوشش ہورہی ہے کہ ہندو مسلم ایک ہی قوم ہے اس مہم میں پاکستان کی ایک سیاسی جماعت بہت زیادہ سرگرم ہے۔ دو بڑے میڈیا گروپ اس مقصد کے لئے استعمال ہو رہے ہیں جن میں دانشور بھی شامل ہیں ۔بنگہ دیش بننے سے دو قومی نظریہ نہیں ٹوٹا بس تعصب کی عینک اتار کر دیکھنا پڑتا ہے ۔ 1944 میں جب قائد اعظم سرینگر تشریف لائے تو انہوں نے شیخ محمد عبداللہ کو بہت سمجھانے کی کوشش کی کہ وہ بھارت نواز سیکولر ازم کے جال میں مت آ ہیں کیونکہ یہ بہت بڑا دھوکا ہے ۔ خود قائد ہندو مسلم اتحاد کے سفیر رہے شروع میں لیکن انہیں اندازہ ہوگیا تھا کہ اس اتحاد کی حیثیت سیراب سے زیادہ نہیں ۔ شیخ کے غلط فیصلے نے کشمیری قوم کو آج تک غلام بنا کر رکھ دیا ہے ۔ 1947 کے بعد مزید چند سال شیخ محمد عبداللہ کو استعمال کیا 1953 تک پھر اسی شیخ کے مشیروں کو یکے بعد دیگرے اقتدار پر بھٹاتے رہے اور ریاست جموں و کشمیر پر اپنا ناجائز قبضہ مظبوط کرتے گئے ۔ میں نے اپنے بزرگوں سے قائد اعظم کے سرینگر میں گرمیوں کا وقت گزارنے کی تفصیلات سنی ہیں کچھ کمزوریوں کا بھی حال معلوم ہے لیکن ان کا ذکر کرنا بھی میں سوچ نہیں سکتا اس بات میں شبہ نہیں کہ پاکستان کے حکمرانوں نے بہت غلطیاں کی ہیں اور اب بھی ان کو دھراتے جاتے ہیں لیکن اس کا حل یہ ہے کہ عوام الناس پر امن جہدوجہد جاری رکھیں اور غلطیوں کی نشان دہی کرتے رہے نیت یہ ہو کہ مملکت خداد پاکستان کے ان مقاصد کو حاصل کیا جائے جس کے لئے علحیدہ وطن حاصل کیا تھا ۔
The Indian Muslims wanted constitutional guarantees against permanent Hindu majority and permanent Muslim minority status. Jinnah’s 14-points made these demands. Congress and Motilal dismissed it out of hand and refused to discuss it. Jinnah was asking for too much but that’s how you enter into negotiations to give and take. Why Congress leadership insisted that all Indians were equal and the Muslim’s future apprehensions were unfounded.
SAME IS GOING ON BEFORE BHOTTO, THEN KANA DAJAL GEN ZIA, AND LASTLY ZANI IMRAN KHAN NIAZI WHO USED "RELIGIOUS CARDS.WHEN NON OF THEM WERE "TRUE MUSLIMS"
Dear. Istia sb. What is your input for the building of the nation? Comments are so easy to arise. Specifically criticism. But, what are your contributions to Unit pakistan? It is my challenge instead of question.
Mr anchor, I want to add one important point to the biography of Mr Zinna. Mr Zinna originally belongs to hindu Brahmin (thakkar) family. His family reside in coastal area of Gujarat -Mumbai, for livelihood they started fishing business, which Brahmin community opposed,then Zinna left Hinduism and adopted Islam. Zinna was very found of drinking wine and eating of pork. You can confirm it from internet. Creation of Pakistan came into existence by conspiracy theory of Britishers and present Elite class of pakistani to safe guard theirs interest , Zinna was a puppet only. you can get it confirmation from Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed. Democracy in Pakistan is just a drama, it was created not to serve innocent pakistani,but to serve and protect the interests of elites.
Appriciate your moral courage and intellectual honesty to present your knowledge without any fear. The hipocrates Intellectuals manipulated the facts according to rullers wish. I think intellectual dishonesty is more harmful then financial dishonesty. Well done your efforts to disclose the histricial facts. Wa Salam.
Dear, the also applicable to muslims of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, all were earlier hindus.This is history of this continent muslims. This is the reason why Arab, Turk, mangolia etc muslims don't recognise these muslims as pure muslims,but they called them Hindi muslims. Few intellectuals of muslims of this continent also accept this fact.
@ashokkumarsharma9564, your note is partially correct. The Arabs themselves were reverted from paganism back in the day. So, they can't call any other Muslim community as not pure. Actually, Islam doesn't follow ethnic, racial or genetic origins for Muslims. Anyone, literally anyone can believe in one God as ONE and ONLY God, His messengers, His creations, His books and the dayof judgment for us, can be a Muslim.
We criticise the historic personalities and persons. And we produce the evidences in favour or against them. But remember we were not present at that time and we don't know their problems and intentions.what they were actually facing at that time.
حناح صاحب نے کاوش کر کے ملک بنا دیا کچھ دن زندہ رہے 76 سال سے ہم پاکستانیوں نے کہاں چور، لوٹ ، ڈکیتی کر کے کہاں پہنچا یا اب کہ رہے ہیں کے بینک کریپٹ بھی پاکستان ہو چکا ہے اسکی ذمہ داری بھی جناح صاحب پر ہے ؟؟؟
Dr Ishtiaq is not a fair political historian; he is biased. He claims without evidence that Pakistan was a British conspiracy; Jinnah was a British agent; Jinnah was a fundamentalist like Maudoodi; Brelvi ulama won Pakistan- was Shabbir Usmani a Brelvi? The Thanvi Group supported Pakistan; only in Punjab religious idioms were used in 1946 and mostly at the second tier leadership. The Mashaikh, and pirs who were big landlords supported Pakistan in the 1946 elections in Punjab. Yet all the Muslim religious leadership- Ahrar, Khaksar, Jamiat Ulema Hind, all opposed Jinnah and demand for Pakistan.
@@CyrusKhan-c5p Jinnah was saviour of 200 millions Muslims from hindutwa plights of treatment of 2nd class citizen's which we can ony witness by indian Muslims
@@CyrusKhan-c5p democrats are hypocrites..... Jinnah was straight forward he did what was best possible choice for saving subcontinent Muslims from hindutwa plights
Dr sb u are saying quite correct but during conversion u are seemed to biased and malicious to quiad e azam u are quite hesitant to say quiad e azam to MUHAMMED Ali Jinah u are quite right revealing that brailvi ulema are real founder of Pakistan
Jinnah was stooge of British. Shauqat Thanvi famously said. Kamzor muqabil ho to faulad hai musalaman, Angrez ho sarkaar to aulaad hai musalaman. --- Shauqat Thanvi Jinnah was briliant lawyer but he was not an intellectual. He did not write a single book not even a letter to editor of a News Paper.
You both are wrong! The Britain and the USA partitioned India as they wanted India to be divided. You are talking nonsense! The power was totally with the Britain and the USA!!!!!! You are further misleading the public by such nonsense talks!!!!!!!!
ہر دوسرے دن کوئی گدھا اٹھتا ہے اور قائد اعظم کو غلط ثابت کرنا شروع کر دیتا ہے۔تاکہ لوگوں کے دلوں سے قائد کی محبت کر نکالا جائے۔۔تم۔ہو کون بھارتی ٹکڑوں متاثرین
😯😯😯... 🤔🤔🤔... Partiton k naaam pe begunahooon ky bhaly chadaaanay walooon ko meraaa nahy khayaaal k JANNNAT ky khoshbooo bhy naseeeb ho khwaaah wo so called muslim leag hy kion na hooon ??? Blunderersss...
🕊Ali Bukhari & fr those who are unwilling to accept historical facts & consider Jinnah holy & above criticism. Ali ur commen’ Dr Shb is Qadiani’ is reflective‘ of limited knowledge & bigoted mindset… 1)If Qadianis are talking sense (which they do) & their arguments are valid… we shd accept/ appreciate them. 2) Pls read & critically examine & accept different points of views with an open mind. 3) Qadiani’s hve right to follow their religion. ‘Voh janey aur Khuda janey’. You don’t have to act as SHO’s of Islam.
قائدِآعظم نے چومُکھی لڑائی لڑ کے پاکستان کا وجود ممکن بنایا۔ مسلم لیگ میں آُن کے پاۓ اور وژن کا کوئی دوسرا لیڈر نظر نہیں آتا۔ اُن کے مخالفین میں انگریز ہندو اور بنیاد پرست مسلمان سبھی تھے لیکن اُنہوں نے کمال فراست سے ان سب کا مقابلہ کیا۔ ہر کامیاب قومی ہیرو کی طرح قائدِ آعظم پر تنقید کرنے والے بھی ایسے دانشور اس دور میں کُھمبیوں کی طرح اُگ آۓ ہیں جو بزعم ِ خود تو دانشور ہیں لیکن شاید ایک یونین کونسل کی رہنمائی کی استعداد بھی نہ رکھتے ہوں چہ جائیکہ ایک اقلیت کیلئے علیحدہ مُلک بنا کر اکثریت کے استحصال سے نجات دلانا۔ تنقیدی مزاج رکھنے والے دانشور ہر دور میں پاۓ جاتے ہیں حتا پیغمبروں پر تنقید کرنے والے بھی مل جائیں گے جو براہِ راست اللہ کی ہدایات کی روشنی میں اقدام کرتے تھے۔ حدیبیہ کے مقام پر رسول اللہﷺ کا میلان صُلح کی طرف دیکھتے ہوۓ جوشِ جہاد سے مغلوب ایک صحابی نے فرمایا جتنا شک ممجھے رسالت پر آج کے دن ہوا ہے اس سے پہلے کبھی نہیں ہوا تھا حالانکہ وہ حضرت کسی غزوہ میں جم کے نہیں لڑے تھے۔
جناح ایک گھنٹے کے لئے بھی جیل نهیں گئے اور لیڈر بن گئے یهاں کچھ چیزیں اندروں خانه هیں تقسیم ھند انگریزوں کی خواهش تھی جسے جناح کےذریعے مذھبی جنونیت کو استعمال کرتے هوئے پایه تکمیل تک پهنچایا گیا حالانکه جناح کهیں سے بھی مذھبی نهیں تھے جب پاکستان بنایا جا رها اسی وقت مشرق وسطی میں اسر ائیل بنایا جا رها تھا آج یه دونوں ملک انگریزوں کی باجگزار ملک هیں جو ان کے مفادات کے تحفظ کا کام کر رهے هیں
Sirs, after getting Pakistan,Mr Jinnah could not figure out what to do with it. And then he passed away in about a year which was a major readjustment for Pakistan establishment.
With due respect mododi shb ny khlifat o malokiyat Hazrat Usman k against nae likhi..jb tak ap os k first 2 chapter ko samjh nae sky ap ko yhi lagy ga ...jo ap abi farma rhy hain..
Your country crys about Muslims in India, why don't you open border and give visas to Indian Muslims? Do something rather than she'd crocodile tears. Also "alhumdullah" 36th IMF loan coming soon brahder
حیرت یہ ھے کہ اب تسلیم شدہ تاریخی شخصیات کو منفی انداز سے بیان کرنا ھی تحقیق کہا جارھا ھے اور اصرار یہ ھے کہ جو میں نے لکھا بس وہ ھی سچ ھے۔ اب یہاں مودودی رح بارے بھی ایک غلط بات کہی گئی ھے۔ مودودی رح نے حصرت عثمان رض کے خلاف کوئی کتاب نہی لکھی ھے۔۔ اس غلط بیانی کے بعد تو کیا ان کی باقی تحقیق صحیح ھے؟؟؟
bhai jan yeh "tasleem shuda" tareekh kia hote hai? kia aap ne mutaea e pakistan to tasleem shuda samaj lia hai. Bhai jan en ke elawa dunya kitabon se bhare pare hai. Zara mutalea farmayee aur sitaron se aage ke dunya mulahiza kejei.
@@shahzebshah459 THESE ARE MUNIFIQS LIKE OTHER PAKIS, WHO THINK MAHMUD GZANVI "THE GAY" WAS OUR HERO, HE WAS A THIEF FROM AFGHAN, OUR HERO AND FREEDOM FIGHTER WAS "BHAGWANT SINGH".
Well, you are a pathetic commentator. Please provide your evidence. You wish to go loggerheads and prove someone bring your evidence and I will be the first one to believe you. In the absence of this, the comment is really "pathetic"
Dr Ishtiaq Sahab, basad ehtram, bus esay hi hawa mein lathian ghuma rahay hein. Na woh yeh bata saktay hein keh agar yeh maulvi na bhi fatway dayatay to kia Muslmanon nay hinduon ko vote daynay thay? Maulvi to bus ronaq mela khoob laga laytay hein laykin vote bil aakhir log ziada ter samajh dari hi say dety hein. Maulvi bus number bananay mein awal number hein. Yeh to na hi medan mein hotay to temperature itna high na hota aur shayed fasadat hotay hi nh aur taqseem pur amn andaz mein ho jati jesa keh Jionah ka style tha. Jinah fatway naheen dayatay thay, daleel daytay thay jisay sb ko man_na perta tha.
@kishwerchaudary-n4g Jinnah was a famous lawyer not a criminal so that go in jail okay..... He was lawyer in UK also so of course he was a rich person but he sacrificed his everything even his life for creating an independent country from britsh and hindutwa
What a so called scholars, poisoning the young generation. Dr. Ishtiaq should be asked are you in favour of Pakistan or United India. If you agree that Jinnah was wrong then why you are in Pakistan. He'll with you and stay wherever you are.
I AM IN FAVOR OF UNITED "PUNJAB", EX PAKISTANI. JI BHAGWAT SING, JI OUR UNITED PUNJAB, JI OUR MAHRAJA RANJEET SINGH WHO DEFEATED PATHANS, AND RULED THEIR KABUL ACCORDING TO "HIS RULE". SHUT UP.
@@PS-ej2xn YES HE IS PUNJABI FROM "OUR HEART LAHORE". SOOOOOOOOOO? IT BOTHERS YOU? I AM EX PAKI AND EX MUSLIM?WHEN U ARE COMING "SIR TUN SAAY JUDDA", I AM IN THE USA. ENOUGH COURAGE? HA HA HA
All my sympathies for Dr Ishtiaq. He is denying the obvious. Pakistan came to being against enormous odds. Naysayers headed by people like Abulkalam Azaad were a potent force but they were on the wrong side. It is a pity that Dr Ishtiaq is telling us after 77 odd years that we don't have the right to exist. West invests heavily in anti-Pakistan vitriol and he is tapping in it for his benefit. Ishtiaq should have some integrity and respect for his academic laurels.
Malik sb, it is you, who is blinded by dogma. Please present your evidence to the contrary and stop relying on stories you heard and read in Mutale e Pakistan. Go out, expand your horizon and read beyond text books.
What is this guys interest in democratic Pakistan? He was born in Lahore, got good education, migrated to west, had good life and now to get famous started bashing people who lived here, worked hard to get a seperate homeland. He had contributed nothing but trying to mislead people about Jinnah and other pioneers contribution. He is trying to be popular with people on the other side of the border. May be just attention hungary. Ghar walee ghaas nahein daltee hoo gee aur ....
Good conspiracy story. Learn to talk and present your case with evidence. Please read books other than Pakistan studies text book. "APKE CHODA TABAK ROSHAN HO JAEIN GE"
@@srijandatta287 I stand by my words, Ishtiaq Ahmed sells his books with controversial statements and concocted references. And simpletons such as yourself are his followers. Nothing against you.
@@ghalibthemagnificent I'm not his follower, I think he says many wrong things, but he has a rigor while writing the bibliography or references he provides. If you do that I will believe you with trusted references.
@@ghalibthemagnificent You can stand by anything you want, I'm sure you also believe in imaginary religions. I don't. I do not follow anyone. Everything has to be substantiated with evidence according to me. Believe in what you want.
@@srijandatta287 Bro I am against overrated historians and Pseudo intellectuals on both sides of the borders, who happen to stir controversy on issues which are least of concern to the general public, and also against media who play with such controversies. I am not touching religion or other subjects.
With due respect to Doctor sb, he has no clue of what personality Mr Jinnah was, Jinnah didn't wanted partition but the arrogance and pyshichy of Bania left no space, hence Partition
پتا نہیں کیا ایویڈینس بیسڈ میرے والد صاحب جو سن 1906 میں پیدا ہوئے تھے انہوں نے تحریک پاکستان میں جلسوں میں حصہ بھی لیا ان سے تو کبھی ایسی کوئی بات نہیں سنی کہ علماء نے یہ فتوے لگائے تھے جنازہ نہیں ہوئے گا اور نکاح نہیں ہوگا وغیرہ۔ اب یہ ہے کہ اس وقت کے اکثر لوگ فوت ہو گئے ہوئے ہیں۔ علما بھی فوت ہوگئے ہیں اب جو مرضی بات کرے کوئی جواب دینے والے بھی نہیں ہوں گے
This is age old tactics. It still happens in India. It's on record that Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi & other leaders used to request Molvis to give fatwah to muslms to vote only congress party.😂 Let me say again, it's on record.👍
2014 Indian Election - Shahi Iman Of Delhi Jama Masjid Met With Sonia Gandhi To Ensure Muslm Votes Goes In Their Favor.👍 Not Only Now, Even Before 1947, Many Ullema Used To Support Congress Always. Because, Congress Party Knows That If You Control Ullema, You Can Control Entire Muslm Community.👍 Same Tactics Was Later Played By Muslm League.👍 It's Not New.👍It's An Old Trick.👍
1947 انگریزوں کی سازش تھی انگریزوں کے بہت سے مقاصد تھے جو ان کے اپنے مفادات کے لئے تھے کروڑوں لوگ پاکستان میں روتے ھوئے دیواروں سے سر ٹکرا کر روتے ہوئے مر گئے ہیں پاگل ھو گئے تھے
Evidences are moulded to support personal agendas, contexts are rephrased according to personal line of argument on which the entire thesis has to be built.Articulate researchers are well versed in reconstructing facts according to their biases. They assumed that people can be foold by their so . research.Qauide Azam's uprightness is unquestionable
PROOF IT, WHY TRAITOR JINNAH AND LIAQAT ALI KHAN DIVIDED OUR PUNJAB, WHY HE DID NOTHING WHEN PUNJABIES WERE WALKING THROUGH THE BLOOD AND DEAD BODIES OF THEIR OWN LOVED ONES, DID ANY ONE RAPED YOUR FAMILY LADIES RIGHT IN FRONT OF U? ARE YOU URDU SPEAKER?
please provide critical analysis. Leave your dogma behind. Infact it is lowlifes who watch stuff they don't like and then have the audacity to call others lowlife.
This is an extremely skewed view of Pakistani history. It may be the guest's own point of view, but it is not the truth. Just citing twisted statements out of context does not constitute research. This channel, which proclaims to be an advocate of revealing truth, usually hosts guests from a specific group of intelligentsia who opposed Pakistan's creation and Jinnah. How callous people we are; instead of thanking our benefactors, we condemn them! Ya'ni jis thali mein khana ussi mein chhed karna!
Everything Prof said is true. Jinnah was a pork eating, wine drinking modern lawyer who worked with the British to partition India. Not one leader of the Muslim league spent one hour in Jail. He started as an Indian nationalist but his hatred for Gandhi (not able to compare) and Nehru, he became disillusioned. This is all facts and Pakistan was created by Zamindars, feudal lords and nawabs of UP. Of course Pakistan history and teaching is not known for its deep study or pursuit of truth.
آجکل جو حالت انڈیا کے مسلمانوں کی ھے وہ اپنے نام کی جگہ نک نام استعمال کرتے ھیں تاکہ ہندوؤں کے ظلم سے بچ سکے پاکستان جس طرح بھی بنا ھمارے لئے جائے امن ھے ھمیں اپ کے خیالات سے کوئی غرض نہیں
India muslamo pr julam krta hai india mei musalmano ki abaadi badh rhi hai...Pakistan hinduo ko protect krta hai Pakistan mei hinduo ki abadi ghat rhi hai....Deen mei akal ka dakhal nhi hai
Mujhe laga app ye nik name wali bat pak ke minority perspective me kah rahe hai maine aisa bhut pak Cristian or hinduo me dekha hai ki vo muslims nam rakhte hai .samaj me adjust hone ke liye.. And by the way current situation of muslims in india is because of jinnah's two nation theory..it is hateful theory. You can not expect love by giving hate to someone..bjp is a hindu nationalist party they want to take revenge from the muslims of partioning india.congress is secular party or you can say more inclined towards muslims.but bjp wants india to keep its ancient hindu roots.. . And one more thing partition of india has also weakend the message of islam..i am a hindu but I like the message of islam.but i can't accept it.because of India's bjp so hinduization policy.. They give the example of Pakistan look Pakistan is islamic state and everything is bad there so islam is also like this .
ایک بار جب جناح نے مسلمانوں کے لیے پاکستان بنایا تو انہیں تمام مسلمانوں کو پاکستان لے جانا چاہیے تھا۔ مسلمانوں کو ہندوستان میں رہنے کا کوئی حق نہیں ہے۔.
WHY NOT CHINA MUSLIMS? BY MENTIONING THEM YOUR TONGUE BURNS? WHERE ARE MINORITIES OF PAKISTAN? KILLED OR LEFT COUNTRY , AND THEIR DAUGHTERS WERE PERSUADED TO ACCEPT ISLAM WHY?
Dr sb views regarded but not sound to accept. Even in whole India Muslims kept oppressed. During Congress govt before and after creation of Pakistan Muslims never were given equal rights and now in present time this all is very evident. Division was the only destiny.
Pakistan was not founded on the basis of democracy but on the basis of the two-nation theory - If Quaid-e-Azam (may Allah be pleased with him) was not a democratic person according to the definition of modern Western democracy, then it is not a defect, rather the great thing is that he took Pakistan from the mouths of the champions of this democracy, in which the injustices committed by the hypocritical democrats of this rotten democracy are undeniable. Pakistan should have been founded and was founded anyway - but the idea on which this country came into existence has not yet been put into practice. This country was founded in the name of Islam and it was definitely the Barelvi scholars and Shaykhs who supported this movement - but neither politicians, the establishment nor intellectuals are realizing this or perhaps they do not want to realize that the type of state and politics for which these groups are trying to popularize and function in Pakistan, this country was not built for this system, therefore democracy will never be successful here - Pakistan's roots extend not only to the history of the Pakistan Movement but beyond that, and no Western-style democracy has been established in the history of Islam, while the administrative structures of many islamic empires span hundreds of years.
🕊Jinnah was a politician not a prophet… he wl be questioned for his wrongs…& Ishtiaq Shb is 💯 right in saying that he was not democratic in approach. Pak. need to adopt a realistic & critical thinking. Yeh pooja band karna chahiyeh.
YA ALLAH TALA NAY PAKISTAN BANYA HY> QAID I AZAM Ki KISMAT MAIN THA> BAKI PAKISATNI QOOM KI ZIMA DARI HAY KAH WO AIK QOOM BUN KAY AGAY BAHRAIN> IMAND DARI, EDUCATION, UR INSAF KAY SATH AGAY BARHAYIN. QAID I AZAM JU BI THA> USKI MARZI USKI LIFE THI> PAKISTAN BANA SHUKAR ALHAM DU LILAH. AJ HAR BANDA PAKISTAN MAIN JOOJAN KAR RAHA HAY> APNA QANOON< APNA INSAF< APNI MARZI. MOOJA HI MOOJAN.
Brilliant analysis by dr Istiaq Ahmed. He is the most authentic commentator, providing references, to all his narrative. One has to go through his books to get an amazing and judicious account on partition and Mr Jinnah.
shb ek taraf jinnah shb ek taraf hero hai woh tou beshak jitany ikhtilaf karly saray
Who is responsible for the killing of over a million Punjabis during partition?
WHO break the mother land India on false grounds and (WHY)
that lead to blood shed in PUNJAB on misunderstanding of Lahore & amertsar weather these cities were part of India or Pakistan which were totally undecided on 13 August 1947
Jinnu
Jinnah and British
@@anujsethi7845Agreed with you. From Pakistan.
@@anujsethi7845jinnah had no power armed forces were under man button n nehru
HUM KHUD PAKISTAN KO SUMBAAL NAHEIN SAKAY ABB 70 YEARS K BAAD KAHTAY HEIN K JINNAH NEIN PAKISTAN BANAIYA KAYUN THA
That comment is so wrong on so many levels. What do you mean by "HUM". for starter; The democratic government who represented "HUM" in NWFP and SINDH were dissolved by Jinnah.
@@SyedAZafar-ji9gm bhai yeh islam aur Pakistan ka "dushman" aur "dost" ke certificate bantne ka ekhtiar apko kis ne deya hai??? Aur Mashallah Psychologist bhe hain aur ? Are bhai Evidence ke sath bath karne ka saleeka seekho; Sanity esse ko kehte hain. Critical Evidence. Yeh kia baat huwe keh muje baat pasand nahe aaye tho yeh lo mere taraf se "islam dushman" ke certificate le lo...ye hai InSanity
@@shahzebshah459 HAHA Jinnah's policy of division and exclusion on full display here...Islam dushman, Pakistan dushman..🤣🤣🤣🤣
MY FATHER WAS FROM "BATALA PUNJAB", HE HAD GOOD CHILDHOOD SIKH AND HINDU FRIENDS, AND THEY WERE THE ONE WHO SAVED MY FATHERS LIFE. AS OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS REACHED PAKISTAN AFTER A HARDSHIP, MY GRANDMOTHER EXPLAINED IT ALL ROADS WERE COVERED WITH DEAD BODIES, WHY? AND THIS HATRED SEED BETWEEN TWO COUNTRIES NEVER VANISHED WHY?
The creation of Pakistan was the result of an ideology of Pakistan, and the ideology of Pakistan was based on religious haterism 😢
@@kishwerchaudary-n4g basically....Jinnah and Savarkar are puppets of British....who are supported to counter...gandhi, Maulana azaad and Nehru
@Popularfuzzyking-t1z absurd!
🕊Very enlightening discussion as always. All salute to Dr. Ishtiaq Shb.
Quaid e Azam zinda bad ❤
Ham log na sach bolate hain aur na sach sunna chahte Hain .
Dr. Ishtiaq pura sach nahi boltay. Reality is lot more complicated.
Dr. Ishtiaq needs to admit that he is a Punjabi Nationalist, and that's the reason why he has turned against the ideology of Pakistan. He wants to see Pakistani Punjab independent and then merge with Indian Khalistan.
It is wrong to suggest that Jinnah outwitted Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and Azad with his brilliance. He only succeeded because he and Iqbal was working on the colonial plan to partition India.
Partition was planned after 1857 revolt, a class of Elite Muslims were groomed with another British stooge Sir Syed, with his Aligarh college/ University. Then formation of Muslim league with all known British stooges l, like Sir Aga Khan, Sir Salimullah etc. we all know why people were knighted. You won’t find any Hindu leader who was knighted, except Tagore, but he renounced the award after Julian Wala Bagh massacre. But our Sir Iqbal, another stooge happily accepted knighthood after the above massacre shamelessly.
Without colonial backing, without the absurd formula of separate electorate system, Jinnah wouldn’t have won a Municipal election, let alone getting Pakistan.
@@asiddiqui54 Actually British planned the division of India,Jinnah was the tool only
He wants to avoid getting lyched, so thats understandable that he need s to balance his book about Jinnah. It is obvious from all his videos that he viewed Jinnah as a very short sighted, egotistical man, who created a country out of sheer spite and personal ego and ofcourse $$$ from his rich Muslim landlord patrons
Absolutely, the elitist Muslims had this plan of partition. It still remains the same in Pakistan today.
whats going on? why misguiding youth, M.A.Jinnah was wrong. Allama Iqbal was wrong, Sahab a kiram were wrong, Religious Philosophers (Sofiya kiram)were wrong , 4 faqih imam were wrong, what is left with us? better you go back to atheism instead you insulting all your heads who brought from dark to light
Or, who spread darkness wherever they went or did not go.
All of what you said is true, all were wrong, if you want to prove him wrong, write a book with evidence like he did. Bibliography is important. Evidence matters.
SHUT UP AS PAKIS CAN NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN A MUNAFIQ OR SHATTAN REASON "YOU ALL ARE M,MUNAFQEENS".
Ishtiaq is atheist, we all know his intentions of this propaganda stuff
@@srijandatta287 writing a book is not a evidence that he is or anyone else is right.
Jinnah as GG appropriated undue power; dismissed provincial gov, but remember Pakistan was borne into a chaos and many believed that the country would not survive. It was the Korean War that helped Pakistan stand on its feet. Pakistan quickly joined the American camp and got eco military aid to move forward. Till the 1970s Pakistan was more prosperous than India. With Afghan Jihad started Pakistan’s decline thanks to usurpation of power by the military. Military appropriated more and more power at every step and today there is no constitutional institution that is intact to play its due role.
*TRAITOR*
پولیٹیکل سائنٹٹ ہوتے ہوئے ڈاکٹر صاحب کو آج کے حالات پر بھی بات کرنی چاہیے۔ لیکن جمہوریت کے حق میں زوردار آواز آپ نہیں بنتے۔ صرف 1947 کی سیاست تک اپنے آپ کو محدود کرتے ہیں۔ شائد وہ یہ رسک نہیں لینا چاہتے کہ کہیں خلائی مخلوق ان کے پیچھے نہ پڑ جائے۔ ہاہاہا۔۔۔۔۔
@@artificialdataintelligence6616
کچھ آپ کر لیں۔
Well done 👏 ✔️ Jinnah needs to be openly debated 😅😅😢
Tight slap on Jinnah apologetics like Prof Ayesha, Prof Hamdani.
Professor Hamdani? When did that guy become a professor? Where?
Advocate hamdani
@@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf I wouldn't be surprised if some college/ university in Pakistan appoints him a Professor. I just wanted to know if that has really happened. 😂
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Thank you very much. amazing analysis
Very much appreciated
Jinnah is Jinnah
But Gandhi is Mahatma Gandhi
This is enough to show where this man stands.
Gandhiji Scollded Pakistan's Qued E Azam Jinnah n Jinnah pissed his pants
Search on Google
I agree with Dr. Ishtiaq. Jinnah has hurt Muslims like no other person in the past 1000 years. He divided us. Not a single thing I can think of this man, which is positive.
Mullahs can create difference among different sect they have no vision ort they can create state like Afghanistan where they ruled with iron fist with no rights to anyone...or terrorism anyone oppose them they take of their head like ISIS or TTP.
We were separate nations essentially. My parents who lived in UP and Delhi only had Muslim friends. They lived in Muslim neighborhoods. They had Muslim servants. Rarely, they came across Hindus...maybe just in markets. They dressed differently. Ate different food. Studied different subjects. Spoke and write in a different language.
Jinnah is the kind of guy who would take the only bat in the game home on being bowled out.
Bohat khoob ❤dr sb great saying with evidance
Devolution of power to the provinces in Pakistan is desirable; yet the provincial autonomy in the Cabinet Mission Plan is unreasonable. What a contradiction!
Fantastic interview
❤Muhammad Ali Jinnah Zindabad❤
He was now Murdahbad.
پروفیسر صاحب کی تحقیقی کتابیں کس مقصد کیلئے لکھی گئی ہیں ؟ جو کچھ ان میں درج ہے ہوسکتا ہے وہ من و عن صحیح بھی ہو لیکن میرا اختلاف اس بات پر ہے کہ آپ یہ کتابیں لکھ کر کس قسم کا ماحول پیدا کرنے کی کوشش کررہے ہیں ؟ بھارت نواز یہ پاکستان نواز ؟ کیا آپ خیر پہلا رہے ہیں یا شر؟ پاکستانیوں کو بتا رہے ہیں کہ تمہارے قائد نے بہت بڑی غلطی کی ہے جو ہندوستان کا بٹوارہ کروایا ۔ اب آپ نے پاکستان میں جمہوریت کی ناکامی بھی قائد کی کھاتے میں ڈال دی۔ ایک وقت آپ
نے جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب کی تعریف کی کچھ عرصہ بعد آپ کو معلوم ہوا غامدی صاحب بھی لا علم آدمی ہیں ۔ جو گفتگو آپ کرتے ہیں وہ پاکستان کی بنیادیں ہلانے کے مترادف ہیں اور آ پ یہ کیوں کر رہے ہیں جبکہ بھارت میں ایک Radical سیاسی جماعت اقتدار پر قبضہ ہے۔ آ پ نے قائد پر ان کی ذات کے حوالے سے حملے کئے اور یہ کرکے آپ بہت نیچے گر گئے ہیں ۔ تاریخ واقعات کا 76 سال کے بعد بار بار ذکر کرنا ان پر تنقید کرنا بہت آسان ہے جبکہ خود اس دور میں رہ کر حقیقت کو تلاش کرنا بہت ہی مشکل بلکہ ناممکن کام ہے۔ تقریباً کوئی ایک دہائی سے میڈیا کے ذریعے پاکستانی عوام کو بتانے کی کوشش ہورہی ہے کہ ہندو مسلم ایک ہی قوم ہے اس مہم میں پاکستان کی ایک سیاسی جماعت بہت زیادہ سرگرم ہے۔ دو بڑے میڈیا گروپ اس مقصد کے لئے استعمال ہو رہے ہیں جن میں دانشور بھی شامل ہیں ۔بنگہ دیش بننے سے دو قومی نظریہ نہیں ٹوٹا بس تعصب کی عینک اتار کر دیکھنا پڑتا ہے ۔
1944 میں جب قائد اعظم سرینگر تشریف لائے تو انہوں نے شیخ محمد عبداللہ کو بہت سمجھانے کی کوشش کی کہ وہ بھارت نواز سیکولر ازم کے جال میں مت آ ہیں کیونکہ یہ بہت بڑا دھوکا ہے ۔ خود قائد ہندو مسلم اتحاد کے سفیر رہے شروع میں لیکن انہیں اندازہ ہوگیا تھا کہ اس اتحاد کی حیثیت سیراب سے زیادہ نہیں ۔ شیخ کے غلط فیصلے نے کشمیری قوم کو آج تک غلام بنا کر رکھ دیا ہے ۔ 1947 کے بعد مزید چند
سال شیخ محمد عبداللہ کو استعمال کیا 1953 تک پھر اسی شیخ کے مشیروں کو یکے بعد دیگرے اقتدار پر بھٹاتے رہے اور ریاست جموں و کشمیر پر اپنا ناجائز قبضہ مظبوط کرتے گئے ۔ میں نے اپنے بزرگوں سے قائد اعظم کے سرینگر میں گرمیوں کا وقت گزارنے کی تفصیلات سنی ہیں کچھ کمزوریوں کا بھی حال معلوم ہے لیکن ان کا ذکر کرنا بھی میں سوچ نہیں سکتا
اس بات میں شبہ نہیں کہ پاکستان کے حکمرانوں نے بہت غلطیاں کی ہیں اور اب بھی ان کو دھراتے جاتے ہیں لیکن اس کا حل یہ ہے کہ عوام الناس پر امن جہدوجہد جاری رکھیں اور غلطیوں کی نشان دہی کرتے رہے نیت یہ ہو کہ مملکت خداد پاکستان کے ان مقاصد کو حاصل کیا جائے جس کے لئے علحیدہ وطن حاصل کیا تھا ۔
Man of contradictions: Mr Jinnah
The Indian Muslims wanted constitutional guarantees against permanent Hindu majority and permanent Muslim minority status. Jinnah’s 14-points made these demands. Congress and Motilal dismissed it out of hand and refused to discuss it. Jinnah was asking for too much but that’s how you enter into negotiations to give and take. Why Congress leadership insisted that all Indians were equal and the Muslim’s future apprehensions were unfounded.
Take your musalman from India
He is not intellectual he is opportunist.
Jaisa stage jaisa log waiysiy baat .
Patel and Ambedkar wanted complete exchange of Population but you guys didn’t leave India after partition
SAME IS GOING ON BEFORE BHOTTO, THEN KANA DAJAL GEN ZIA, AND LASTLY ZANI IMRAN KHAN NIAZI WHO USED "RELIGIOUS CARDS.WHEN NON OF THEM WERE "TRUE MUSLIMS"
Which book he wrote?please give me link.i need this book.I am a Baloch american from BALOCHISTAN Pakistan
He is atheist....!! Are you also then read these atheist's propaganda outlets
Dr Ishtiaq has written many famous books. Just Google.
Atheist ishtiaq Ahmed liar
He is author of multiple books
@@CyrusKhan-c5p Atheist ishtiaq
Dear. Istia sb.
What is your input for the building of the nation?
Comments are so easy to arise. Specifically criticism. But, what are your contributions to Unit pakistan?
It is my challenge instead of question.
ڈاکٹر اشتیاق اتنے سال کہاں تھے۔المیہ ہے لوگ وقت پاس کرنے کیلئے انتظار کرتے ہی ۔
ڈاکٹر صاحب نے انگلینڈ کے ارکیو سنٹر کھنگالے ہیں ۔۔۔۔ وقت لگتا ہے تحقیق پر۔۔۔ اب سنوں اور غور کرو
Jinnah sb mission was very correct and superb. So room to criticise him. What shaped after creation of Pakistan was not his mission.
Mr anchor, I want to add one important point to the biography of Mr Zinna. Mr Zinna originally belongs to hindu Brahmin (thakkar) family. His family reside in coastal area of Gujarat -Mumbai, for livelihood they started fishing business, which Brahmin community opposed,then Zinna left Hinduism and adopted Islam. Zinna was very found of drinking wine and eating of pork. You can confirm it from internet. Creation of Pakistan came into existence by conspiracy theory of Britishers and present Elite class of pakistani to safe guard theirs interest , Zinna was a puppet only. you can get it confirmation from Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed. Democracy in Pakistan is just a drama, it was created not to serve innocent pakistani,but to serve and protect the interests of elites.
Appriciate your moral courage and intellectual honesty to present your knowledge without any fear. The hipocrates Intellectuals manipulated the facts according to rullers wish. I think intellectual dishonesty is more harmful then financial dishonesty. Well done your efforts to disclose the histricial facts. Wa Salam.
Dear , yes , I am not saying Mr Zinna himself converted to Islam, his family converted, thereafter he was born.
Dear, the also applicable to muslims of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, all were earlier hindus.This is history of this continent muslims. This is the reason why Arab, Turk, mangolia etc muslims don't recognise these muslims as pure muslims,but they called them Hindi muslims. Few intellectuals of muslims of this continent also accept this fact.
@@asadaziz6429 Hahaaaha, idiot kya baki ja rhy ho😅😅😅
@ashokkumarsharma9564, your note is partially correct. The Arabs themselves were reverted from paganism back in the day. So, they can't call any other Muslim community as not pure. Actually, Islam doesn't follow ethnic, racial or genetic origins for Muslims. Anyone, literally anyone can believe in one God as ONE and ONLY God, His messengers, His creations, His books and the dayof judgment for us, can be a Muslim.
We criticise the historic personalities and persons. And we produce the evidences in favour or against them. But remember we were not present at that time and we don't know their problems and intentions.what they were actually facing at that time.
This guy is a traitor.
حناح صاحب نے کاوش کر کے ملک بنا دیا کچھ دن زندہ رہے 76 سال سے ہم پاکستانیوں نے کہاں چور، لوٹ ، ڈکیتی کر کے کہاں پہنچا یا اب کہ رہے ہیں کے بینک کریپٹ بھی پاکستان ہو چکا ہے اسکی ذمہ داری بھی جناح صاحب پر ہے ؟؟؟
Loved the critical analysis by Dr Eshtiaq. We need to produce more scholars like him.
Dr Ishtiaq is not a fair political historian; he is biased. He claims without evidence that Pakistan was a British conspiracy; Jinnah was a British agent; Jinnah was a fundamentalist like Maudoodi; Brelvi ulama won Pakistan- was Shabbir Usmani a Brelvi? The Thanvi Group supported Pakistan; only in Punjab religious idioms were used in 1946 and mostly at the second tier leadership. The Mashaikh, and pirs who were big landlords supported Pakistan in the 1946 elections in Punjab. Yet all the Muslim religious leadership- Ahrar, Khaksar, Jamiat Ulema Hind, all opposed Jinnah and demand for Pakistan.
He wants Pakistani Punjab to become part of Khalistan.
Jinnah was a demagogue and not a democrat at all.
@@CyrusKhan-c5p Jinnah was saviour of 200 millions Muslims from hindutwa plights of treatment of 2nd class citizen's which we can ony witness by indian Muslims
@@CyrusKhan-c5p democrats are hypocrites..... Jinnah was straight forward he saved 200 millions Muslims religious freedom mosques etc etc
@@CyrusKhan-c5p democrats are hypocrites....
Jinnah was straight forward he saved millions religious freedom mosques and Islamic culture
@@CyrusKhan-c5p democrats are hypocrites.....
Jinnah was straight forward he did what was best possible choice for saving subcontinent Muslims from hindutwa plights
@@CyrusKhan-c5p democrats are hypocrites.... Jinnah was straight forward he saved millions religious freedom and culture
مجھے تو اشتیاق احمد صاحب کے کی آخری رسومات کی فکر ہے کہ کہیں ن۔ م راشد ، کی طرح نہ ہو جائے ۔۔۔۔
Dr sb u are saying quite correct but during conversion u are seemed to biased and malicious to quiad e azam u are quite hesitant to say quiad e azam to MUHAMMED Ali Jinah u are quite right revealing that brailvi ulema are real founder of Pakistan
This Ishtiaq is atheist, so we all know his intentions
Jinnah was stooge of British. Shauqat Thanvi famously said. Kamzor muqabil ho to faulad hai musalaman,
Angrez ho sarkaar to aulaad hai musalaman.
--- Shauqat Thanvi
Jinnah was briliant lawyer but he was not an intellectual. He did not write a single book not even a letter to editor of a News Paper.
Can you plz tell , what was Jinnah's qualification? Most probably he was only matriculate.
However zina was barrister and found of drinking wine and eating of pork.he did his law degree from London.
TRUE BRITISH GAVE HIM A CERTIFICATE TO "DIVIDE OUR PUNJAB' BECAUSE BOTH WERE SAME "CUNNING" AND GREEDY.
You both are wrong!
The Britain and the USA partitioned India as they wanted India to be divided. You are talking nonsense! The power was totally with the Britain and the USA!!!!!!
You are further misleading the public by such nonsense talks!!!!!!!!
Forget past Jinnah is a great leader
Jinnah was a Gutter level insect
He should have taken all the muslims from bharat side
Millions of hindus killed
Still muslims are in India
Why
Jinnah
A Gutter level insect
Got millions of hindus killed
ہر دوسرے دن کوئی گدھا اٹھتا ہے اور قائد اعظم کو غلط ثابت کرنا شروع کر دیتا ہے۔تاکہ لوگوں کے دلوں سے قائد کی محبت کر نکالا جائے۔۔تم۔ہو کون بھارتی ٹکڑوں متاثرین
😯😯😯...
🤔🤔🤔...
Partiton k naaam pe begunahooon ky bhaly chadaaanay walooon ko meraaa nahy khayaaal k JANNNAT ky khoshbooo bhy naseeeb ho khwaaah wo so called muslim leag hy kion na hooon ???
Blunderersss...
Useless debate just to cover up failures of 75 years
اگر سپین میں ایک قاٸداعظم ہوتا تو کچھ نہ کچھ مسلمان وہاں سے بھی بچ نکلتے۔
🕊Ali Bukhari & fr those who are unwilling to accept historical facts & consider Jinnah holy & above criticism. Ali ur commen’ Dr Shb is Qadiani’ is reflective‘ of limited knowledge & bigoted mindset…
1)If Qadianis are talking sense (which they do) & their arguments are valid… we shd accept/ appreciate them.
2) Pls read & critically examine & accept different points of views with an open mind.
3) Qadiani’s hve right to follow their religion. ‘Voh janey aur Khuda janey’.
You don’t have to act as SHO’s of Islam.
قائدِآعظم نے چومُکھی لڑائی لڑ کے پاکستان کا وجود ممکن بنایا۔ مسلم لیگ میں آُن کے پاۓ اور وژن کا کوئی دوسرا لیڈر نظر نہیں آتا۔ اُن کے مخالفین میں انگریز ہندو اور بنیاد پرست مسلمان سبھی تھے لیکن اُنہوں نے کمال فراست سے ان سب کا مقابلہ کیا۔
ہر کامیاب قومی ہیرو کی طرح قائدِ آعظم پر تنقید کرنے والے بھی ایسے دانشور اس دور میں کُھمبیوں کی طرح اُگ آۓ ہیں جو بزعم ِ خود تو دانشور ہیں لیکن شاید ایک یونین کونسل کی رہنمائی کی استعداد بھی نہ رکھتے ہوں چہ جائیکہ ایک اقلیت کیلئے علیحدہ مُلک بنا کر اکثریت کے استحصال سے نجات دلانا۔
تنقیدی مزاج رکھنے والے دانشور ہر دور میں پاۓ جاتے ہیں حتا پیغمبروں پر تنقید کرنے والے بھی مل جائیں گے جو براہِ راست اللہ کی ہدایات کی روشنی میں اقدام کرتے تھے۔ حدیبیہ کے مقام پر رسول اللہﷺ کا میلان صُلح کی طرف دیکھتے ہوۓ جوشِ جہاد سے مغلوب ایک صحابی نے فرمایا جتنا شک ممجھے رسالت پر آج کے دن ہوا ہے اس سے پہلے کبھی نہیں ہوا تھا حالانکہ وہ حضرت کسی غزوہ میں جم کے نہیں لڑے تھے۔
Yeh admi mujhay qadiani Lagta hai.infact yeh zani khan KO qaid e Azam Kae barabar Lana Chahta hai.🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️
Bukhari sb, kia qadyani insaan nahe hote? aapke ""quaid e azam"" konse musalan group se the?
جناح ایک گھنٹے کے لئے بھی جیل نهیں گئے اور لیڈر بن گئے یهاں کچھ چیزیں اندروں خانه هیں تقسیم ھند انگریزوں کی خواهش تھی جسے جناح کےذریعے مذھبی جنونیت کو استعمال کرتے هوئے پایه تکمیل تک پهنچایا گیا حالانکه جناح کهیں سے بھی مذھبی نهیں تھے
جب پاکستان بنایا جا رها اسی وقت مشرق وسطی میں اسر ائیل بنایا جا رها تھا آج یه دونوں ملک انگریزوں کی باجگزار ملک هیں جو ان کے مفادات کے تحفظ کا کام کر رهے هیں
Sirs, after getting Pakistan,Mr Jinnah could not figure out what to do with it. And then he passed away in about a year which was a
major readjustment for Pakistan establishment.
کیبنٹ مشن پلان فیل ہونے کا ذمہ دار انڈین رائٹر ریسرچرز نہرو کو ذمہ دار سمجھتے ہیں
Claiming that Jinnah was a fundamentalist like Maudoodi, Khomeini, and Syed Qutub is utter nonsense
Aik fake video ki base pr khadim rizvi pr ilzam laga rha hai..... Bhtr hai india chala jai wha gai ka gosht ka ilzam laga kr jai shri Ram k nary lagai
Dr shaab I disagree with you. You take lot of funds from Sweden University for research. But he failed. Thanks to Mr jinnah to founder of Pakistan. 😮
Is there any argument in your comment? No!
If you don’t agree you should mention what you didn’t like and why.
With due respect mododi shb ny khlifat o malokiyat Hazrat Usman k against nae likhi..jb tak ap os k first 2 chapter ko samjh nae sky ap ko yhi lagy ga ...jo ap abi farma rhy hain..
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The plight of muslims today under modi n yogi is testimony of jinnah rehmat ul Allah wisdom n fore sighted ness
Modi and Yogi exist because Jinnah created Pakistan for Muslims and then left behind Muslims in India.
Agree brother. The only problem is that population transfer didn’t happen like Turkey and Greece. That would have been better for both of us.
Your country crys about Muslims in India, why don't you open border and give visas to Indian Muslims?
Do something rather than she'd crocodile tears. Also "alhumdullah" 36th IMF loan coming soon brahder
@@TheAnuragsinghWhy are there Muslims in India?
WHAT ABOUT MUSLIMS OF CHINA? DO NOT EVER CALL ZANI AND ALCHOLOC "REHMAT ULLAH AALAY THE PIG"
حیرت یہ ھے کہ اب تسلیم شدہ تاریخی شخصیات کو منفی انداز سے بیان کرنا ھی تحقیق کہا جارھا ھے اور اصرار یہ ھے کہ جو میں نے لکھا بس وہ ھی سچ ھے۔ اب یہاں مودودی رح بارے بھی ایک غلط بات کہی گئی ھے۔ مودودی رح نے حصرت عثمان رض کے خلاف کوئی کتاب نہی لکھی ھے۔۔ اس غلط بیانی کے بعد تو کیا ان کی باقی تحقیق صحیح ھے؟؟؟
URDU SPEAKERS HAVE PROBLEMS, AS IN UNITED PUNJAB YOU DARE NOT TO SAY "PUNJABI KHAA GAAY, IN REALITY IT IS JUST THE OPPOSITE.
bhai jan yeh "tasleem shuda" tareekh kia hote hai? kia aap ne mutaea e pakistan to tasleem shuda samaj lia hai. Bhai jan en ke elawa dunya kitabon se bhare pare hai. Zara mutalea farmayee aur sitaron se aage ke dunya mulahiza kejei.
@@shahzebshah459 THESE ARE MUNIFIQS LIKE OTHER PAKIS, WHO THINK MAHMUD GZANVI "THE GAY" WAS OUR HERO, HE WAS A THIEF FROM AFGHAN, OUR HERO AND FREEDOM FIGHTER WAS "BHAGWANT SINGH".
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خادم حسین رضوی کی طرف جھوٹ منسوب ہے ۔ انہوں نے ایسا نہیں کہا تھا وہ ایڈیٹ شدہ ویڈیو ہے۔
واللہ اعلم
Agreed 100% ..
Brother, this is a hard truth, that almost 99.9 percentage of Pakistani and Bangladeshi were earlier hindus. They all are converted muslims.
He is such a pathetic scholar, better you call Yasser Latif Hamdani whenever you call this history twister...
You don't call propagandist pamphleteers for serious discussions.
Evidence!!
OOO REALLY ARE YOU SEEING YOUR OWN REFLECTION?
@@srijandatta287 do Google his name vs Yasser Latif Hamdani
Well, you are a pathetic commentator. Please provide your evidence. You wish to go loggerheads and prove someone bring your evidence and I will be the first one to believe you. In the absence of this, the comment is really "pathetic"
Brilliant comments by Dr Ishtiaq
Pakistan jo bhi hai.... 😂😂😂
Dr Ishtiaq Sahab, basad ehtram, bus esay hi hawa mein lathian ghuma rahay hein. Na woh yeh bata saktay hein keh agar yeh maulvi na bhi fatway dayatay to kia Muslmanon nay hinduon ko vote daynay thay? Maulvi to bus ronaq mela khoob laga laytay hein laykin vote bil aakhir log ziada ter samajh dari hi say dety hein. Maulvi bus number bananay mein awal number hein. Yeh to na hi medan mein hotay to temperature itna high na hota aur shayed fasadat hotay hi nh aur taqseem pur amn andaz mein ho jati jesa keh Jionah ka style tha. Jinah fatway naheen dayatay thay, daleel daytay thay jisay sb ko man_na perta tha.
This Ishtiaq is atheist, so we all know his intentions
HOW YOU SAY? BECAUSE YOU PAKIS NEVER STUDIED OTHER BOOKS, YOUR ONLY QUALIFICATION IS SOCIAL STUDIES PAKISTAN AND HOLY QURAN.
WHY HE NEVER SEND TO JAIL? FROM WHERE AND HOW HE MADE SO MUCH MONEY EXPLAIN?
WAS HE OR WAS HE NOT ALCOHOLIC AND ZANI?
@kishwerchaudary-n4g Jinnah was a famous lawyer not a criminal so that go in jail okay.....
He was lawyer in UK also so of course he was a rich person but he sacrificed his everything even his life for creating an independent country from britsh and hindutwa
Olll@olll..... Kaumtiat zudagana😂😂😂😂even if one person converts ... His/her is of different quom😂😂😂😂rest in peace zinnnahhh
What a so called scholars, poisoning the young generation. Dr. Ishtiaq should be asked are you in favour of Pakistan or United India. If you agree that Jinnah was wrong then why you are in Pakistan. He'll with you and stay wherever you are.
His home is the land occupied by Pakistan.
I AM IN FAVOR OF UNITED "PUNJAB", EX PAKISTANI. JI BHAGWAT SING, JI OUR UNITED PUNJAB, JI OUR MAHRAJA RANJEET SINGH WHO DEFEATED PATHANS, AND RULED THEIR KABUL ACCORDING TO "HIS RULE". SHUT UP.
@@PS-ej2xn YES HE IS PUNJABI FROM "OUR HEART LAHORE". SOOOOOOOOOO? IT BOTHERS YOU? I AM EX PAKI AND EX MUSLIM?WHEN U ARE COMING "SIR TUN SAAY JUDDA", I AM IN THE USA. ENOUGH COURAGE? HA HA HA
@@kishwerchaudary-n4g p@jeeeet 😂
Afzal sb!
What do you mean by "in favour"? A scholar in essence is "in favour" of facts. He goes whereever facts and evidence leads him/her.
Very good analysis
Ali Bhai Good work .. really a good interview 😊
All my sympathies for Dr Ishtiaq. He is denying the obvious. Pakistan came to being against enormous odds. Naysayers headed by people like Abulkalam Azaad were a potent force but they were on the wrong side. It is a pity that Dr Ishtiaq is telling us after 77 odd years that we don't have the right to exist. West invests heavily in anti-Pakistan vitriol and he is tapping in it for his benefit. Ishtiaq should have some integrity and respect for his academic laurels.
This Ishtiaq is atheist, so we all know his intentions and he is also swedish citizen
Malik sb, it is you, who is blinded by dogma. Please present your evidence to the contrary and stop relying on stories you heard and read in Mutale e Pakistan. Go out, expand your horizon and read beyond text books.
He isn't saying that...
100 % غلط کہہ رہا ہے
احمد رضا خان نی تقسیم ہندوستان کو ماں ٹکرا اقرار دیا تھا
اس بات سے کیا مقصود ہے؟
😂😂😂
Gooooooood
Salute you sir
Excellent and brilliant!!!
What is this guys interest in democratic Pakistan? He was born in Lahore, got good education, migrated to west, had good life and now to get famous started bashing people who lived here, worked hard to get a seperate homeland. He had contributed nothing but trying to mislead people about Jinnah and other pioneers contribution. He is trying to be popular with people on the other side of the border. May be just attention hungary. Ghar walee ghaas nahein daltee hoo gee aur ....
@@mjiqbal810 You may not be aware of this probably, but there is a concept known as "Truth".
Good conspiracy story. Learn to talk and present your case with evidence. Please read books other than Pakistan studies text book. "APKE CHODA TABAK ROSHAN HO JAEIN GE"
@@swapnilm1856LOL, pursuit of truth, academic curiosity, I guess concepts lost on these guys.
Overrated Historian, Pseudo Intellectual, Swedish Citizen and sweetheart of Naya Daur. This channel could go to any length for views.
He gives references. Unlike you who is just butthurt.
@@srijandatta287 I stand by my words, Ishtiaq Ahmed sells his books with controversial statements and concocted references. And simpletons such as yourself are his followers. Nothing against you.
@@ghalibthemagnificent I'm not his follower, I think he says many wrong things, but he has a rigor while writing the bibliography or references he provides. If you do that I will believe you with trusted references.
@@ghalibthemagnificent You can stand by anything you want, I'm sure you also believe in imaginary religions. I don't. I do not follow anyone. Everything has to be substantiated with evidence according to me. Believe in what you want.
@@srijandatta287 Bro I am against overrated historians and Pseudo intellectuals on both sides of the borders, who happen to stir controversy on issues which are least of concern to the general public, and also against media who play with such controversies. I am not touching religion or other subjects.
With due respect to Doctor sb, he has no clue of what personality Mr Jinnah was, Jinnah didn't wanted partition but the arrogance and pyshichy of Bania left no space, hence Partition
@@maliali2075 he has done complete study on Jinnah and has then written the book...
The partition demand was from Jinnah not from others
پتا نہیں کیا ایویڈینس بیسڈ میرے والد صاحب جو سن 1906 میں پیدا ہوئے تھے انہوں نے تحریک پاکستان میں جلسوں میں حصہ بھی لیا ان سے تو کبھی ایسی کوئی بات نہیں سنی کہ علماء نے یہ فتوے لگائے تھے جنازہ نہیں ہوئے گا اور نکاح نہیں ہوگا وغیرہ۔ اب یہ ہے کہ اس وقت کے اکثر لوگ فوت ہو گئے ہوئے ہیں۔ علما بھی فوت ہوگئے ہیں اب جو مرضی بات کرے کوئی جواب دینے والے بھی نہیں ہوں گے
This is age old tactics. It still happens in India. It's on record that Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi & other leaders used to request Molvis to give fatwah to muslms to vote only congress party.😂
Let me say again, it's on record.👍
2014 Indian Election - Shahi Iman Of Delhi Jama Masjid Met With Sonia Gandhi To Ensure Muslm Votes Goes In Their Favor.👍
Not Only Now, Even Before 1947, Many Ullema Used To Support Congress Always. Because, Congress Party Knows That If You Control Ullema, You Can Control Entire Muslm Community.👍
Same Tactics Was Later Played By Muslm League.👍
It's Not New.👍It's An Old Trick.👍
1947 انگریزوں کی سازش تھی انگریزوں کے بہت سے مقاصد تھے جو ان کے اپنے مفادات کے لئے تھے کروڑوں لوگ پاکستان میں روتے ھوئے دیواروں سے سر ٹکرا کر روتے ہوئے مر گئے ہیں پاگل ھو گئے تھے
Islamic leaders are still calling for vote Jihad in India.
THEY ALL WERE "FROM UP, MUSLIM GUJRATI CHORS AND URDU SPEAKERS" NAWABS WHO SERVED IN MUGHAL COURTS AS "LACKEYS" I MEAN LICKERS.
Pakistan ko cia nay banway
Great analysis
Evidences are moulded to support personal agendas, contexts are rephrased according to personal line of argument on which the entire thesis has to be built.Articulate researchers are well versed in reconstructing facts according to their biases. They assumed that people can be foold by their so . research.Qauide Azam's uprightness is unquestionable
Ribbish just like your books ...
LIKE YOU? I KNOW WHY ARE CONFIRMING IT BY YOUR "TALK".
Paid element of enimies.
PROOF IT, WHY TRAITOR JINNAH AND LIAQAT ALI KHAN DIVIDED OUR PUNJAB, WHY HE DID NOTHING WHEN PUNJABIES WERE WALKING THROUGH THE BLOOD AND DEAD BODIES OF THEIR OWN LOVED ONES, DID ANY ONE RAPED YOUR FAMILY LADIES RIGHT IN FRONT OF U? ARE YOU URDU SPEAKER?
Seems you had this podcast just to please India.
What a lowlife dr ishtiaq is.
He should have migrated to India.
please provide critical analysis. Leave your dogma behind. Infact it is lowlifes who watch stuff they don't like and then have the audacity to call others lowlife.
This is an extremely skewed view of Pakistani history. It may be the guest's own point of view, but it is not the truth. Just citing twisted statements out of context does not constitute research. This channel, which proclaims to be an advocate of revealing truth, usually hosts guests from a specific group of intelligentsia who opposed Pakistan's creation and Jinnah. How callous people we are; instead of thanking our benefactors, we condemn them! Ya'ni jis thali mein khana ussi mein chhed karna!
Everything Prof said is true. Jinnah was a pork eating, wine drinking modern lawyer who worked with the British to partition India. Not one leader of the Muslim league spent one hour in Jail. He started as an Indian nationalist but his hatred for Gandhi (not able to compare) and Nehru, he became disillusioned. This is all facts and Pakistan was created by Zamindars, feudal lords and nawabs of UP. Of course Pakistan history and teaching is not known for its deep study or pursuit of truth.
آجکل جو حالت انڈیا کے مسلمانوں کی ھے وہ اپنے نام کی جگہ نک نام استعمال کرتے ھیں تاکہ ہندوؤں کے ظلم سے بچ سکے پاکستان جس طرح بھی بنا ھمارے لئے جائے امن ھے ھمیں اپ کے خیالات سے کوئی غرض نہیں
India muslamo pr julam krta hai india mei musalmano ki abaadi badh rhi hai...Pakistan hinduo ko protect krta hai Pakistan mei hinduo ki abadi ghat rhi hai....Deen mei akal ka dakhal nhi hai
Mujhe laga app ye nik name wali bat pak ke minority perspective me kah rahe hai maine aisa bhut pak Cristian or hinduo me dekha hai ki vo muslims nam rakhte hai .samaj me adjust hone ke liye..
And by the way current situation of muslims in india is because of jinnah's two nation theory..it is hateful theory. You can not expect love by giving hate to someone..bjp is a hindu nationalist party they want to take revenge from the muslims of partioning india.congress is secular party or you can say more inclined towards muslims.but bjp wants india to keep its ancient hindu roots..
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And one more thing partition of india has also weakend the message of islam..i am a hindu but I like the message of islam.but i can't accept it.because of India's bjp so hinduization policy..
They give the example of Pakistan look Pakistan is islamic state and everything is bad there so islam is also like this .
They pay the price of separated some part of India Pakistan. The muslims in India are facing this situation after the creation of Pskistan.
ایک بار جب جناح نے مسلمانوں کے لیے پاکستان بنایا تو انہیں تمام مسلمانوں کو پاکستان لے جانا چاہیے تھا۔ مسلمانوں کو ہندوستان میں رہنے کا کوئی حق نہیں ہے۔.
WHY NOT CHINA MUSLIMS? BY MENTIONING THEM YOUR TONGUE BURNS? WHERE ARE MINORITIES OF PAKISTAN? KILLED OR LEFT COUNTRY , AND THEIR DAUGHTERS WERE PERSUADED TO ACCEPT ISLAM WHY?
Dr sb views regarded but not sound to accept. Even in whole India Muslims kept oppressed. During Congress govt before and after creation of Pakistan Muslims never were given equal rights and now in present time this all is very evident. Division was the only destiny.
Pakistan was not founded on the basis of democracy but on the basis of the two-nation theory - If Quaid-e-Azam (may Allah be pleased with him) was not a democratic person according to the definition of modern Western democracy, then it is not a defect, rather the great thing is that he took Pakistan from the mouths of the champions of this democracy, in which the injustices committed by the hypocritical democrats of this rotten democracy are undeniable. Pakistan should have been founded and was founded anyway - but the idea on which this country came into existence has not yet been put into practice. This country was founded in the name of Islam and it was definitely the Barelvi scholars and Shaykhs who supported this movement - but neither politicians, the establishment nor intellectuals are realizing this or perhaps they do not want to realize that the type of state and politics for which these groups are trying to popularize and function in Pakistan, this country was not built for this system, therefore democracy will never be successful here - Pakistan's roots extend not only to the history of the Pakistan Movement but beyond that, and no Western-style democracy has been established in the history of Islam, while the administrative structures of many islamic empires span hundreds of years.
REALLY? THEY WHY INDIA HAS DEMOCRACY SINCE 4947?
🕊Jinnah was a politician not a prophet… he wl be questioned for his wrongs…& Ishtiaq Shb is 💯 right in saying that he was not democratic in approach. Pak. need to adopt a realistic & critical thinking. Yeh pooja band karna chahiyeh.
Total nonsense…
yeah you are right. Your comment make no sense, Maqbool sb!!!
YA ALLAH TALA NAY PAKISTAN BANYA HY> QAID I AZAM Ki KISMAT MAIN THA> BAKI PAKISATNI QOOM KI ZIMA DARI HAY KAH WO AIK QOOM BUN KAY AGAY BAHRAIN> IMAND DARI, EDUCATION, UR INSAF KAY SATH AGAY BARHAYIN. QAID I AZAM JU BI THA> USKI MARZI USKI LIFE THI> PAKISTAN BANA SHUKAR ALHAM DU LILAH. AJ HAR BANDA PAKISTAN MAIN JOOJAN KAR RAHA HAY> APNA QANOON< APNA INSAF< APNI MARZI. MOOJA HI MOOJAN.
چریا 😅