I bristled when he suggested a claim of ADHD was an attempt to shirk responsibility. The most likely reason he would be talking to someone about it would be that they were trying to take responsibility for their clutter. I believe people with ADHD are a significant portion of people with decluttering issues. I was relieved that he did acknowledge that there are tools and strategies to help people with Neuro divergences.
He didn't say people diagnosed with ADHD by a medical professional were attempting to shirk responsibility, he said most people who were self diagnosing themselves with ADHD may be trying to shirk responsibility. In answer to Leslie's question of what about people who DO have an official diagnosis Peter answered that he developed strategies to work around their neurodivergence. He gave the example of a person with a bad back, you wouldn't have them lifting or bending. People who have been diagnosed with ADHD by a medical professional would also have a care plan by their dr tailored to them and he said he tailors his strategies to fit with their neurodivergence.
@@stefs3460I heard what he said. The fact that someone hasn't been diagnosed by a doctor or other specialist also doesn't mean the person is wrong. Adults often go undiagnosed. He was awfully fast to label someone who said they had ADHD as irresponsible.
I suspected I had something wrong with me. I was diagnosed ADHD at 49 years old. I am relieved to have a 'label'. It helps me understand why I am struggling and it helps me not be so hard on myself. My label used to be 'lazy'. Picked up by my family and it was my inside voice. Now I don't have to listen to it. Now instead of feeling guilt and shame, I can shrug it off and find solutions. Being buried under bad labels made it really hard to move forward, having the one label ADHD is so much easier to push forward. I also didn't like when he said it was an excuse. A lot of people have issues that are undiagnosed. It took me suspecting something was wrong with me and talking to a counselor to get a diagnosis.
I think it’s fair to discuss the way people do take a label on bc of social contagion and how some truly define and limit themselves by it; and I’m ND myself and work in Mental Health, many do use it to not change, I used it to figure out how to change and utilise my strengths AND develop my weaknesses into better life habits. Empathy needs to be balanced with logical analysis and a non-limiting attitude and approach. Otherwise we disempower people and leave them with a low bar and no hope for improvement.
Watching you guys for the first time & absolutely enjoying it! This is awesome! I just processed it as “the circle of life”, I used the items, they served a purpose for that place and time & now prepare to enjoy the elder years. Let go! Yessss!!
How is he saying that people "diagnosing" themselves as ADHD do that to eccuse themselves for not doing the job a better "diagnos" than those who believe themselves having ADHD?! Most people don't put such a stamp on themselves easily as it is so misunderstood. He really fell in my estimation by showing such lack of understanding. Having said that, yes of course there are those with ADHD not wilöing to put in the work, as with everyone else, but having many in my family with ADHD, diagnosed and un-diagnosed, I know how hard it can be.
There a lot of ADHD people particularly women that didn't get diagnosed as kids because they were not presenting with the typical hyperactive boy view of what ADHD is. And as an adult there is definitely barriers that prevent people from getting diagnosis and or treatment. They're also are a lot of people particularly women who were misdiagnosed with things like depression anxiety or bipolar disorder but they actually had ADHD and were being treated for other things for years. I will say that there is more knowledge around it now then there was a decade before. And since it was considered a child hood condition even psych doctors who are treating adults had minimal knowledge/ training on it unless they worked with pediatric patients. Most parents aren't diagnosed until their children are and genetically it is very common for there to be others in the family with it. I love Peter Walsh but I do think that if someone suspects they have ADHD it isn't an excuse and they are probably shaming themselves far more than anyone else over their failure of not being able to keep house and why it is such a struggle. K owing and learning about ADHD when you have it is such a huge help to understand why certain things don't work well for brains and how we can pivot to something that does work for it. 🙂 Regardless of if someone suspects they have it or has an official diagnosis.
@findingaway5512 Thank you for your story! Being open is so important for the misunderstanding to ever get away from people's minds. I have four daiughters with ADHD, two with a diagnos, one who knows she has it and the last one who's been told she can't have it because she "functions too well" and therefor don't know what to think. They tell me of their struggles all the time, it being worse for the two oldest as they have children. It's real alright!
Really? Ménage à trois in Québec, Canada?!!! We are ALL so blessed to have you Mr. Walsh! I read your book ¨Let it Go¨ (a few...hum...times 🤣) ; you help SO MUCH! May I ask if your book has been translated in French? (for my relatives who do not read English) Happy Year to you Mr. Walsh....keep doing your quintessence work the way you always do...with your heart! helene :)
"Retirement" is a good word. It's not always connected to work, but even if it is, that's fine. If you retire from your job or occupation to spend your "retirement from work" doing things you enjoy more than working, in my book, that's a good thing. I would like to "retire from decluttering" which seems to take many hours I could use doing something more interesting and entertaining. I would also like to retire from doing unpleasant household chores, etc., etc.
I liked the video because I like Peter Walsh, but thought the interviewer talked way too much about themselves. I wanted to hear what HE has to say, since he's the interviewee.
Me too. I almost just skipped the rest of the episode, but I hung in there. Peter is an intelligent man so hopefully he'll come to the realization that no one is asking him for medication, so does he really need a doctor note??? If someone tells him they have self-diagnosed, even if he doesn't believe in it, it's so easy to say "Ok, well here are some methods that tend to help people with adhd, let's give them a try"
@@declutterhub yes, still a great podcast as always! I appreciate that you both are very empathetic to all people and their struggles, neurodivergent or not.
I bristled when he suggested a claim of ADHD was an attempt to shirk responsibility. The most likely reason he would be talking to someone about it would be that they were trying to take responsibility for their clutter. I believe people with ADHD are a significant portion of people with decluttering issues. I was relieved that he did acknowledge that there are tools and strategies to help people with Neuro divergences.
He didn't say people diagnosed with ADHD by a medical professional were attempting to shirk responsibility, he said most people who were self diagnosing themselves with ADHD may be trying to shirk responsibility. In answer to Leslie's question of what about people who DO have an official diagnosis Peter answered that he developed strategies to work around their neurodivergence. He gave the example of a person with a bad back, you wouldn't have them lifting or bending. People who have been diagnosed with ADHD by a medical professional would also have a care plan by their dr tailored to them and he said he tailors his strategies to fit with their neurodivergence.
@@stefs3460I heard what he said. The fact that someone hasn't been diagnosed by a doctor or other specialist also doesn't mean the person is wrong. Adults often go undiagnosed. He was awfully fast to label someone who said they had ADHD as irresponsible.
Thanks for listening!
I suspected I had something wrong with me. I was diagnosed ADHD at 49 years old. I am relieved to have a 'label'. It helps me understand why I am struggling and it helps me not be so hard on myself. My label used to be 'lazy'. Picked up by my family and it was my inside voice. Now I don't have to listen to it. Now instead of feeling guilt and shame, I can shrug it off and find solutions. Being buried under bad labels made it really hard to move forward, having the one label ADHD is so much easier to push forward. I also didn't like when he said it was an excuse. A lot of people have issues that are undiagnosed. It took me suspecting something was wrong with me and talking to a counselor to get a diagnosis.
@@laurahatch7677 thanks for sharing Laura - I'm so glad you got what you needed
well said on downsizing
thanks again
I think it’s fair to discuss the way people do take a label on bc of social contagion and how some truly define and limit themselves by it; and I’m ND myself and work in Mental Health, many do use it to not change, I used it to figure out how to change and utilise my strengths AND develop my weaknesses into better life habits.
Empathy needs to be balanced with logical analysis and a non-limiting attitude and approach.
Otherwise we disempower people and leave them with a low bar and no hope for improvement.
Thank you for sharing Alex.
Watching you guys for the first time & absolutely enjoying it! This is awesome! I just processed it as “the circle of life”, I used the items, they served a purpose for that place and time & now prepare to enjoy the elder years. Let go! Yessss!!
Thank you for watching and listening! We appreciate you!
How is he saying that people "diagnosing" themselves as ADHD do that to eccuse themselves for not doing the job a better "diagnos" than those who believe themselves having ADHD?! Most people don't put such a stamp on themselves easily as it is so misunderstood. He really fell in my estimation by showing such lack of understanding. Having said that, yes of course there are those with ADHD not wilöing to put in the work, as with everyone else, but having many in my family with ADHD, diagnosed and un-diagnosed, I know how hard it can be.
It's such a complex area and with adult ADHD diagnoses only 10 years old or so, there's a lot still to learn that's for sure
There a lot of ADHD people particularly women that didn't get diagnosed as kids because they were not presenting with the typical hyperactive boy view of what ADHD is. And as an adult there is definitely barriers that prevent people from getting diagnosis and or treatment. They're also are a lot of people particularly women who were misdiagnosed with things like depression anxiety or bipolar disorder but they actually had ADHD and were being treated for other things for years. I will say that there is more knowledge around it now then there was a decade before. And since it was considered a child hood condition even psych doctors who are treating adults had minimal knowledge/ training on it unless they worked with pediatric patients. Most parents aren't diagnosed until their children are and genetically it is very common for there to be others in the family with it. I love Peter Walsh but I do think that if someone suspects they have ADHD it isn't an excuse and they are probably shaming themselves far more than anyone else over their failure of not being able to keep house and why it is such a struggle. K owing and learning about ADHD when you have it is such a huge help to understand why certain things don't work well for brains and how we can pivot to something that does work for it. 🙂 Regardless of if someone suspects they have it or has an official diagnosis.
@findingaway5512 Thank you for your story! Being open is so important for the misunderstanding to ever get away from people's minds. I have four daiughters with ADHD, two with a diagnos, one who knows she has it and the last one who's been told she can't have it because she "functions too well" and therefor don't know what to think. They tell me of their struggles all the time, it being worse for the two oldest as they have children. It's real alright!
@@findingaway5512 Yes we are just finding our way with adult ADHD. Thanks for commenting
100% real @@monicacreates
Really? Ménage à trois in Québec, Canada?!!!
We are ALL so blessed to have you Mr. Walsh!
I read your book ¨Let it Go¨ (a few...hum...times 🤣) ; you help SO MUCH!
May I ask if your book has been translated in French? (for my relatives who do not read English)
Happy Year to you Mr. Walsh....keep doing your quintessence work the way you always do...with your heart!
helene :)
I can't immediately find a translation. Why don't you go to his support team and asking them directly. I believe he's at Peter Walsh design
"Retirement" is a good word. It's not always connected to work, but even if it is, that's fine. If you retire from your job or occupation to spend your "retirement from work" doing things you enjoy more than working, in my book, that's a good thing. I would like to "retire from decluttering" which seems to take many hours I could use doing something more interesting and entertaining. I would also like to retire from doing unpleasant household chores, etc., etc.
There are a few things I'd like to retire from too ;)
I liked the video because I like Peter Walsh, but thought the interviewer talked way too much about themselves. I wanted to hear what HE has to say, since he's the interviewee.
Yes she talks way too much about herself.I want to hear Peter.
I winced at his comments re ADHD, but other than that I loved this conversation!
Thanks Alison. Hope you're well x
Me too. I almost just skipped the rest of the episode, but I hung in there. Peter is an intelligent man so hopefully he'll come to the realization that no one is asking him for medication, so does he really need a doctor note??? If someone tells him they have self-diagnosed, even if he doesn't believe in it, it's so easy to say "Ok, well here are some methods that tend to help people with adhd, let's give them a try"
There were some great gems in the podcast, that's for sure.@@cvelasquez8041
@@declutterhub yes, still a great podcast as always! I appreciate that you both are very empathetic to all people and their struggles, neurodivergent or not.
@@cvelasquez8041 Thank you so much - it means alot
🙂
On Horders they pay for a year of therapy when they agree to do the show
That's interesting, thanks for letting us know