Switch Pro: Monkey's Paw Edition | Switch OLED Model Discussion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2021
- So we got our new Switch model, and it's...not quite what we expected.
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First
Arlo I love you
WHAT?
Totally fine man
It's fine man
I still have my 2017 Switch working just fine and as someone who plays exclusively docked I don't feel the need to upgrade.
On one hand it's nice that I don't have to spend upwards of 500$ (in my country) for a new Switch model just to get better performance for games... but on the other hand it would be really nice and I'd totally do the trade for a stronger Switch.
Which by this point it's probably just going to be the Switch 2 a few years from now, as in, the next Nintendo console. And I pray that it's backwards compatible with enhanced performance for base Switch games.
The only people would buy this is die hard Nintendo fans
As someone who plays exclusively handheld with my 2017 Switch. I also don't feel the need to "upgrade".
@@BillPinkNye Good point, it's really not much of an upgrade lol
Absolutely agree with you
Make your words mine... Greetings from Brasil.
Hey Arlo, I know where the 4K increased performance rumours came from: the people that knew anything other than that wouldn't generate the clicks. :)
Yes XD
I think that switch will still happen just not this year
That is likely true and the more liable sources said the hardware specs where still the same since even if you make a powerful switch the developer will more likely focus on the main switch since the bigger size of the consumer base and I'm not surprised the specs where the same a switch pro is more likely a switch 2 with likely 4K and find a way to run 4K with a reliable battery since more powerful hardware drains the battery
@@bradaloop Na, if that happens its going to be on nintendos next big console jump (wii to switch type of jump)
@@Kelpic don't think so
As someone who bought a switch this may I’m glad mine isn’t immediately obsolete.
@@SantiagoNasrax Switch hardware was lacking when it came out. I'm sure if there wasn't a part shortage they could make it significantly better and use DLSS for upscaling. Arlo seems like he just wants to fix the framerate and hardware issues and I 100% respect that. It just isn't worth it for me since I just bought one.
I'm on the same boat. Glad it's not obsolete. Hated that about the New 3DS.
Saaame here.
@@SantiagoNasrax no, it's actually declining in sales
Alternative names:
Switch Semi-Pro
Switch Part-Time
This is that 2-3% raise you get every year to keep up with inflation. But a console. And not every year.
Switch release for the 2,000th time
=new= ish
NINTENDO
SWITCH
I'm calling it the SwOLED
Switch Prosumer
Can’t wait to get home and play Pokémon in my hallway
For real, can't this dude just find a nice sofa or something?
@@mikau1585 Someone's probably using the bathroom and he's waiting for them to finish.
OP isn't a real pokeman player if they haven't played it in the hallway, at the dinner table, while driving, during the birth of their first born.
Tbf I play my switch in handheld on the floor
LMAOOOOO
There are so many little things that would make me upgrade. The big one I can think of is Bluetooth Audio.
Bluetooth, alternative charging port to charge in handheld...
There is a lot of things to fix with switch
Hey good news in the newest update from this week all switches can do that now!
They put out an update so all Switches can hook up to bluetooth audio devices.
Find It funny that people don't know the difference between hardware update and software update... No wonder why the people where confused by the Wii U being a completly new hardware
This should ONLY appeal to someone like me who doesn’t already have a switch and intend on playing mostly in handheld mode because really, for everyone else, this thing is a completely pointless buy!
Exactly. My current Switch is 15 times smaller than my TV. Why the heck would I buy a newer Switch that is simply 14 times smaller than my TV?
(Especially since both will likely drift the same.)
I think they should have just waited another year and focus on a pro model that could actually impress people.
I mean, I play mostly handheld and was thus tempted to buy a newer model switch just for the better battery life. This one has better battery than my current one, a bigger better screen and better audio. I'mma buy one and give my old one to my niece and nephew who are more likely to play primarily at home together anyway.
@@ILuvMoogles Same here. My 10-year-old and I have taken turns with our Switch for nearly 4 years now, and my 5-year-old has just started entering the mix (she loves Untitled Goose Game). They're fans of handheld though, so I'm almost tempted to get this one at some point for portable use and just leave the original in the dock until two people want to play at once.
Tbh
Couldn't you just get the switch mini which is cheaper?
I was really hoping for a better performance
Me too
Im tiring of playing games in 30 FPS!
@@panuru9175 play splatoon 2
@@panuru9175 Then complain to the developers who don't optimize their games properly.
Yeah, I would probably buy it if it had better performance, but since this is such a bare-bones upgrade, I think I'm fine with my base switch.
@@projectpitchfork860 Someone doesn't know what they are talking about...
Now I know what my mom says that "she's not mad, just disappointed". I get i ma, I finally get it.
It's more like she's disappointed because a friend of hers told her that you were gonna do something when you had no intention of doing it in the first place. It's not your fault, it's her friend's.
@@nujevad28 Excuses excuses.
That's why people shouldn't get their hopes up and believe in all these "Ultimate Switch Pro" rumors
You end up disapointed
@@Link-Link oh I pretty much figured that it'd be a disappointment. I just didn't think it'd be this big of a disappointment 😕.
@@nujevad28 What you don't seem to get is it isn't about the rumors. People don't want a hardware upgrade just for the hell of it, the Switch actually *needs* one, and its low performance has been bugging people since launch.
OLEDs are ideal for horror, especially because it offers darker darks, which is the setting of most horror games, like metroid dread. So them trying to bundle metroid dread and an OLED switch would be a no brainer.
I see what you’re saying but that only really applies to games that get real dark. Dread might have horror aspects but from what we’ve seen it doesn’t look like it’ll be one of those games.
Oh I'm 100% sure that sometime after this and Dread hit the market, a special Dread edition will be announced.
@@SomeTH-camTraveler maybe they’ll announce it before so people who want the new switch and dread can get the special edition on launch day and people who only want dread can get it on launch day and people who only want the new switch can get it on launch day, it’s a win win everyone gets what they want on October 8th. Well except for people who wanted a “switch pro”
Hopefully Nintendo has put some things in place to prevent burn in.
I dont think dread is a horror game. Just a 2d sidescroller with some horror aspects.
That ending hahaha. I gotta get it right? Yah know. For the channel.
I have a feeling he doesn’t have to get it tbh lol
Hi Tyler!
For the channel....
How many TRG members and friends watch Arlo?
He really doesn't
I'm glad I don't have to feel early adopter's remorse. My Switch is still good, and as a one-console-per-generation gamer who never plays her Switch in handheld mode, I'm not missing out.
Man, those who have the original 2017 Switch (such as me) will feel particoular when the Switch life cycle will end.
At least that's what I think... Cuz I remember looking at the original DS and 3DS when they were dying and thinking those were so cool, but not sold anymore.
It's sad that there is fundamentally no difference in performance. A nicer screen but still 720p? pass.
Same here!
As someone else who plays mostly in dock I agree with this sentiment, honestly I'm kinda relieved that I no longer feel the need to shell out $350 for a new Switch lol
@@pit2992 Particoular?
I look forward to when it comes out and we get reports confirming that, yes, joycon drift is still a thing
Yeah they already said same joy one no fixes. I honestly would have bought it if they fixed drift
@@thebatpig8424 Same. As far as hardware goes that's all I really care about
@@squiddler7731 yeah the only real hardware improvement is the screen but I have yet to really have a problem with the screen in handheld with my OG switch
They never replaced the controllers for an upgraded system
Monkey's paw edition is the PERFECT name for this, yeah
panda edition
it really is
Nintendo should've put the OLED screen on the Lite.
exactly my thoughts... they focus on the handheld side of the switch way more than on the docked side, anyway, might as well ditch the dock completely (I'm probably in the minority, I don't care about handheld, I want a docked/TV-only switch)
That's probably coming in a year or two.
then the point of a cheap lite switch would be gone
@@mariomason95 oled screens are actually cheaper now though right?
@@StopLegoLord yes they are much cheaper now so nintendo buy the old ones on discount
This seems to be just another option for someone who doesn't have a Switch and wants one to get. Not necessarily meant to be an upgrade for current Switch owners.
EXACTLY!!!!
True but I do want to upgrade if I can
True, the only reason people seem disappointed is because they were expecting a new switch with tons of new options even though nintendo didn't say anything like that. For an extra 50 dollars, this is pretty cool for people who don't already have a switch.
EXACTLY.... I don't need it I'm good with what I have
Don't lie to yourself you know it's both
These always start with him just rolling out of bed lol
As do all the best stories in life.
That's the charm that keeps me coming
that’s because the Nintendo directs are always shown really early for him
Because Link does too.
The alternative is Cookie-Monster Royalty being kidnapped.
Did anyone else find it funny that Nintendo thinks including a LAN port is a selling point worthy enough to emphatically advertise in their commercial instead of acknowledging that a LAN port is pretty standard and would normally only be mentioned under technical specifications? Because I thought it was hilarious.
and I've notice people "cry" about the Switch not having a bluetooth (supposedly for audio or something)... like from no bluetooth to bluetooth is somehow a big step >:D
@@ArinJager1 I’m from the future, and I can def. confirm🤣😭
LOL Yeah I will probably never even use the LAN port. Wifi works just fine for what I need it for.
It’s clearly just for people who were considering buying a switch after e3
Then they would shown this sooner after E3, 4 weeks is more than enough time for people to get around to buying one
@@Ggyhhggtyyy ye if they decide no this might win them over besides they might be buying it to play games shown at e3 which launch around the same time as the OLED
Yeah they're absolutely gonna be bundling this with the newer games rather than the original too
might as well wait for a "switch 2" if that's ever gonna happen (or a next nintendo machine/console)
@@Ggyhhggtyyy they wanted people to focus on games
As soon as I saw the reveal I burst out laughing because it was the most Nintendo thing ever seeing all the hype for Switch Pro just for them to do this back-handed model
@@Chris-vs6ll I love how they ran out of new features halfway through a 2-minute trailer and just went, "well, here are some games you can play on the Switch. Any old Switch, mind you."
I mean, Nintendo is not obligated to respond to hype that comes from baseless rumors, this upgrade makes more sense than a more powerful switch, considering even when it happened to the 3ds it didn't meant a lot at the end of the day
@@meikaishi even if you had never heard a single switch pro rumor in your life, when you think of a new switch “upgrade” your mind doesn’t go to new stand and better audio, Bc obviously the switch is underpowered and so many games would run so much better with a more powerful switch so of course a switch upgrade would be more powerful, but that makes too much sense so how about a nicer screen instead
@@feelsweirdman_1823 If you never heard a single switch pro rumor then you had no reason to even be expecting and much less hyped about a incoming switch upgrade, literally everyone who's disappointed set them up by hyping up years old baseless rumors
@@feelsweirdman_1823 And you'll be fine with them making you buy a new system add a nub to the cartridges so they can't be used on the older model. As for me I have my diet switch not because there was no regular ones, but because it's cheaper and I don't even own a TV last year I had to sell everything but my diet switch and 4 games just to pay rent. Sorry if it sounds like complaining not my intention you have a good day
This is really cool for people who use their Switch in handheld mode. It's also really disappointing for those of us who never use their Switch in handheld mode.
Except the LAN port. Thats a good thing.
Exactly this!
Frankly I don't think it's worth it unless the person doesn't have any Nintendo Switch yet. It's just a slightly bigger, slightly nicer screen. Not enough to get a second one.
It has 64gb though
My switch is almost exclusively used in handheld
I don’t think there’s really anything a “switch pro” could’ve done to make me shell out $300+ more dollars when my original switch still works just fine… but it is crazy to me that’s it’s MORE than 300 just for the screen!! This would’ve been the perfect opportunity to slightly lower the switch price to $250 (or even like $280!!!) and keep the OLED at $300… just seems very pricey to me.
LOL. Why on earth would they do that when the current model still sells incredibly well
It's crazy how Nintendo always never drops the prices of there products like where I live, Breath of the Wild is still 70$, keep in mind, every other 1st party Nintendo game is 60$ and BOTW is four years old ! PlayStation and Xbox drops there prices to 30$~40$ by the time a game is that old.
This will probably get a price drop in a year or 2 when the OG Switch is completely phased out.
That's how it is in the UK. The regular Switch is £280 and this model is £310. I know dollars are worth less than pounds, but that's not really how it works in terms of salaries.
@@oinkers4314
BotW is like 55 on Amazon.
Hey, at least it's not called "New Switch", Arlo, it's the OL'D Switch... XD
That’s very witty lmao
Cring
From the perspective of Nintendo handhelds this makes sense. This is like going from the GBA to the GBA SP, or the original DS to the DS Lite. It's not a big hardware upgrade, but it adds various QOL improvements. At this rate, a "pro" model of the Switch might end up just being Nintendo's next gen system instead of half step upgrade.
Even more so now that the 3ds isnt their focus.
@@quoll4961 The 3DS wasn't an upgrade to the DS, it was a completely different console, the New 3ds is more in line to what people were expecting
Wasn't the SP more like the DSi or New 3DS than this? At any rate, this late into the console's life cycle people were expecting a DSi/New 3DS type of upgrade. This is more like a 3DS XL upgrade. That's why it's disappointing.
@@boltstrike2787 No, the SP was the exact same hardware on a different form factor
Yeah the new 3ds was confusing to consumers, made development on the platform more difficult as devs now had 2 systems to make the game for, and all of its exclusive games failed to meet sales expectations. I'm kinda surprised that there isnt a spec upgrade, but it makes sense. I wasnt gonna spend hundreds of dollars to upgrade anyways even if it had 4k and stuff
"You'll be able to walk in and buy the new Switch along with the new Metroid"
Oh Arlo you're adorable.
"We been spending most our lives, livin' in a scalpers' paradise"
@@JorbyTinky
“Sell stuff for twice their price living in a scalpers paradise”
I hope scalpers fail with this one because the demand isn't that high
@@reelbytes6447 “Don’t care if your daughter cries, livin’ in a scalpers’ paradise.
Fanboys say I’m cold as ice, livin’ in a scalpers’ paradise.”
@@CurtTheHero Depending on store policy, there really is no failing for them. That’s part of the reason why it’s so infuriating. They can hang on to this stuff for months on end and still return it. Worst-case scenario, they get store credit that they can use to try again next time.
“And the monkey’s paw curls one long finger”
I don’t think this whole thing could be put any more short and sweet than that.
I’m in the “won’t believe it when I see it boat”. I never allowed myself to believe the rumors, so I’m not disappointed that we didn’t get a switch pro. That being said, I’m disappointed that we didn’t get Bluetooth and it’s an extra 50 dollars. I won’t buy it, but I know it will sell off the shelves, sending the message to Nintendo this works, and they will keep doing it *sigh*
Your saying it like it's a bad thing
Considering that a data mine Switch update actually confirmed some sort of Bluetooth improvement, this announcement of nothing new is highly disappointing
@@maplemiles3381 Yes, because it will send the message that this is okay (charging 50 extra bucks), which I don't think it is.
wait wait wait Wait WAIT a second... no bluetooth? (I don't have a switch, obviously), how, in the name of Narf, Zort, Poit, and Troz, does the controllers work, they're wireless, ain't they? (probably wifi, that's my guess)
@@ArinJager1 It's a kind of custom Bluetooth configuration that Nintendo uses. The controllers connect by Bluetooth but it doesn't allow Bluetooth audio connection with certain third party devices. It sucks
I feel like generally this would be a revision that would come with a price drop. Problem is supply chains are so screwed up right now that it probably isn’t cheaper to make a switch today.
Also there is literally no incentive for them to lower the price. It's still selling pretty much as fast as they can produce them.
Not to mention that Nintendo doesn't subsidise their own hardware unlike their competitors. So comparatively it looks like a bad proposition compared to something like the Xbox Series S.
I'm pretty confident that a Switch console is worth no more than $170 to physically build. Nintendo has been milking old technology since the very first day. And I've been asking myself all these 4 years "Why people keep buying it? Don't they realize they're making it worse?"
@@soullessSiIence I mean, do you see any other major portable, let alone a hybrid? They are not competing with ms, sony and pc, just like they said. Not even against an android or iphone.
@@soullessSiIence 170 to build sold for 300 would mean retailers and nintendo would be making 80 bucks per console
“Before there were shoes...”
On a side note, does Arlo even wear shoes?
@@catwpants It has been confirmed already... He doesn’t...
Pikmin 4 anyone?
does arlo even have feet?
@@catwpants So your saying Arlo doesn't wear underwear.
Does Arlo even have a lower body?
Has anyone noticed how dedicated he is with just waking up at the butt crack of dawn and making a video when he could just wait until later
Some people are morning people. Couldn’t be me.
I think this quote summarizes it best: "We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close!"
To be fair, it really did look like the logo was lighting up.
Camera/lighting tricks bro
Honestly, I think at this point, the version of the Switch Pro that everybody wants with improved performance is just going to be a new video game console. Maybe it will be a sequel to the Nintendo Switch like how the 3DS and Wii U were to the DS and Wii. Maybe it will even be backwards compatible with Switch games. But I say they will just make a new console at that point with it's own line of games.
Nah. New console is a two screener.
4k switch is coming just not this year
@@Matanumi You know, you'd think something like this would humble people and make them be a little more realistic, but I guess not
exactly! might as well wait for the next thing ("switch 2")
I feel like it’s best to treat this as the equivalent of a DS XL model
I think with all the rumours, everybody expected to much.
Leakers: "Anyway, switch pro coming 2022, I swears it!"
"4K60FPS in handheld mode, I swear. I have a friend on the inside that told me this"
I'm so happy I never have to hear about this ever again
@@duncanblue124 Prepare for disappointment
@@duncanblue124 at least until next year lol.
leakers/game 'journalists' say its pro because its what people want and they word things and say things that people want to hear
but if you pay attention and look only at what's actually been mentioned or revealed, never once did Nintendo promise a Switch Pro, the leaks only said improved stuff like LED screen and maybe larger screen. And that was literally just it. The only lies was from the leakers/journalists with their clickbait articles.
I'd give it another 1-2 years past 2021 or 2022 for news of a Pro release to come and such news won't come till 2023+, but tha'ts just my prediction/theory/expectation considering the release of the Switch OLED is basically 3DS XL to the 3DS, they're trying to milk the heck out of the Switch console sales.
I like how the new dock looks.
That’s pretty much everything I have to say about the model, though.
That might even be compatible with the old Switch if Nintendo sells that model separately.
@@weaverquest That’d be interesting, I might actually pick it up. I wonder what the price would be, probably too much considering the original dock costs around $80 with nothing else.
@@weaverquest The new dock is compatible with the old Switch. The old dock is also compatible with this new model.
@@Nachtflut yeah you right
@@reelbytes6447 the lite lacks the hardware and anyway it wouldn’t make sense to Nintendo from a business point of view
It kinda seems like Nintendo hates people who play on the tv. Since it’s launch in 2017, the switch has got a better battery, better screen, better kickstand, and better speakers. For people playing on the tv there hasn’t really been a big upgrade since 2012:/
IKR?! just give us a docked-only "switch" (switchless switch, lol... a "nintendo bait" or whatever), pack it with a pro-controller, make it cheaper... Nintendo is just another corporation, it too "hates" (disrespects) its own customers... handheld/gimmick focused consolue = no buy from me... Why can't they just make another NES or SNES, just for the current times?!
Marketing it towards TV users instead of on it being a portable puts it in direct competition with the far more competitive home consoles.
By focusing on it being a handheld first, they can justify the lack of processing specs. As soon as they focus on the TV experience, it shines a light on how far behind they are.
@@ArinJager1 they wont give you deck only siwtch japen like hand hold more so there ntyo gonig piss japne off dude japen coem fist that is how it works
I personally think the docked mode doesn’t really need an upgrade, it’s already better.
@@caramelzappa If they put it on the tv only, there is no excuse to not make a super powerful console. They could do it if they wanted to.
Spawnwave made a really good point about the 4k rumours. This revision of the switch has a new dock. Which probably has an improved hdmi port that could support 4k as the current dock doesnt support it. Also the new dock has a new vent that would help a more powerful revision later.
I wonder if the "new dock" (=a piece of plastic) also scratches the screen as did the old one (to some people, anyway)
@@ArinJager1 it does not scateh the srtene sotp with lies my old siwthc never get scatehd form the dock so bull shit
On the website it said it doesn't support 4k
A new dock cant magically make it support 4k
@@jackburns6403 no but should a later new switch model support 4k it would need a new dock because the current dock simply doesnt have a good enough hdmi port for it
As a college student now, not always having access to a tv screen, the new stand is definitely a massive selling point for me unlike the old switch, i think i could comfortably play this in handheld with my pro controller and with friends. the slightly bigger screen might be a big enough change that people would be comfortable gathering around it and playing, especially with better angles and lighting.
Ever since I got my new (normal) switch I never had the chance to hook my switch up to the T.V. because well I dont have a T.V. however I am still okay with not getting the new switch cause the size of the screen on my normal switch works just fine and the new kickstand while it is cool not enough for me to buy it because my switches current kickstand works just fine I only use it when I am playing with friends and for that it works just fine but hey I am glad this exists so people like you can enjoy it.
I agree, I might try to sell my cousin my Switch for half the price of the Oled model with a few accessories so I can get the benefits and not have to pay full price
As a college student I’m less lenient with spending and not willing to pay an extra 50 for more or less quality of life features to me
couldn't you just buy a lightweight case with a sturdier stand instead of paying $350 for a plastic kickstand? the nintendo fanboys are out in full force today
@@Figsyy fr lmao they rlly be out here defending it so hard. also “as a college student” you’d want to save and make the most out of the current switch you have but ok sure
I just realized the colors this switch comes out in match Samus’s Color scheme for Metroid dread. This Switch also launces same day as Metroid dread
A day one purchase for me :)
And the ps5... Wonder why...
Yep, obviously the white one is the E.M.M.I switch, but look at samuses colors?
Its like Neon Red / Neon Blue Joycons...
@@ShadeKirby500 samus has white red and blue as her color scheme for dread
It's METROID dear imbecile
10:44 because most, not all, of the people talking about a switch pro said there would be DLSS inside the dock. That could still happen, since the new dock can be used by both switches why couldn’t they make a “Pro Dock” later on with DLSS in it for 4K.
And that will be the 4K product if and when that actually happens, not what we currently know we have at the present moment with these things.
the dock (as is) does absolutely nothing, it's just a piece of plastic/glorified charging stand
That’s 100 something dollars if I’m not mistaken
It's like Nintendo made a list of consumer complaints with the Switch hardware, ranked them by severity, and then yeeted the top half of the list off New Donk City Hall.
Lol, kinda seems that way though
I’m on the V1 Switch and honestly, if one of the bigger retailers does some kind of “trade-in” promotion for the new OLED Switch at a discount for trading in an older Switch then I’ll jump on this new one.
Same here.
Agreed
I’d absolutely trade my old one for the new one, but im not wasting $350 for oled
Yeah that's not happening, ever.
@@thisisfyne GameStop did it for the V2. Don’t be such a downer.
The name of this console is equivalent to "The Sequel To The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild"
Switch OLED baby
@@Matanumi Breath Of The Wild 2 BABY!
Nintendo fans: This is the same thing!
Nintendo: This makes perfect sense!
This release just makes me baffled that Nintendo released a game that runs as poorly as Hyrule Warrior 2 and had no plans to address it.
Me too, Arlo. Only thing I hoped for was improved performance hahaha.
Right? Why the fuck Would they improve everything except the part that was already lacking
@@lilstinovevo9839
Because that alone wouldn't help. You still need optimization and most producers won't optimize their games for 2 consoles.
@@fluffynator6222 Optimization has nothing to do with it in this instance. The Switch is VERY underperforming due to its dated hardware.
I don’t think this is the “Pro” switch everyone wants. It’s similar to that of an XL console.
thats what it always was. people expecting 4K and better hardware performance were just wishful thinking but what people really want is the next gen console.
It’s Baaarrely even “XL”
literally every nintendo console ever what did you expect. the only difference of dsi and dsi xl is the screen size, yet people still bought it. By doing the bare minimum and calling it an "XL" model they still make money off of it cause nintendos done it before. not saying its good im saying its a scam that most nintendo fans except
Super fair point. I just wish the dock wasn't a flat out downgrade.
They removed one of the USB ports for a port most users won't even use and they did this to try and fix a problem that doesn't exist.
For clarification:
_The problem being bad american wifi. . . when that isn't even the issue. Nintendo games use bad netcode that wouldn't show on an island like japan but would show in on a continent like Europe or America. This is strictly on a per-game basis, meaning you won't have this problem with Third Party online games on nintendo switch. Those games have not stupid netcode. It's specifically the way first party games are coded that's the issue. But nintendo refuses to touch their netcode. This is why you don't need an Ethernet port on your phone. Because phone games have good netcode. Good netcode is what it looks like when 1 bad apple doesn't spoil the bunch. Bad netcode is when if one person lags, and then that means everyone has to lag, no matter how good their connection is, no exceptions That's how nintendo codes their online games._
To put it blatantly, _you don't need everyone to have an ethernet connection or even amazing connection to have a good online game. You just need that game's netcode to not be made by morons. Again, you don't need ethernet._ *It's strictly on the coding side. Software side. Not hardware side.*
THAT'S why it's so annoying that we are losing a port that's actually useful >_>
Yeah he went from the 3ds to the new 3ds but he didn’t talk about the time between just the 3ds to the 3dsXL
I think you actually brought up a really good point!
Cannot wait to see the switch OLED trailer looped 50 times with Arlo audio in the background!
This is not the switch OLED, this is the switch E.M.M.I. edition
Finally. No more talking about the Switch Pro.
We’re still gonna talk about a true Switch Pro
@@horseonabeachball5996 You can talk about it, but it's not going to happen.
@@johnmarstall knowing how shitty Nintendo is as a company, your probably right.
@@horseonabeachball5996 they arent shitty
@@Egood_ty Whether or not you believe a Switch Pro should exist, you have to admit Nintendo’s a shitty company. Most tech companies are. Doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy their products but selling a bigger screen Switch for $60 more is pretty shitty. They could easily position this at $300 and lower the prices of the OG and lite.
My first thought when I saw the reveal was, “Man, Arlo’s gonna be so disappointed.” My second thought was…”and so am I.”
When you look back at Nintendo's history, you realize they haven't been matching their competition since the Super Nintendo.
The Nintendo 64 used cartridges when the industry switched to CDs, vastly reducing the size of their games despite being more powerful than the PS1.
The GameCube was more powerful than the PS2, but it made the same mistake as the N64 and used mini DVDs, resulting in limited space for software.
The Wii, Wii U, and now the Switch have hardware that's just nowhere near as powerful as the other consoles.
They really like to hold themselves back.
also the wii, wii u, and now the switch are "gimmick-oriented", even though a gimmick, if done right, can work (they succeeded with the wii and the motion control, where others like xbox with the kinect, or playstation with move failed quite miserably)... but dang, would it hurt them to make a "classic" home console (no gimmick, no handheld hybrid, no bull$hit), something like a NES/SNES, just for the current year?! Who at the nintendo HQ makes these marketing decisions? They should be fired, asap... People don't care about handheld, they have smarphones and/or tablets, ffs! No need for a separate device... Even nintendo kinda acknowledged that and made a nintendo game not on a nintendo console/handheld (=mario run)... Like, are they stupid, or stupid? -_-
you can have hand hold be ps5 level dude it wood cost 2000 dolers and withc woont slel then do think ntiendo is domb
@@ssjgotenks2009 Oh wow I have not seen you in a very long time...
And yeah, I'm sure it's entirely possible to have a portable gaming device on par with PS5 specs (from what I hear the current iPad Pro is on par with an Xbox One X though I don't know how true that is), but with current technologies and chip shortages, it's a safe bet the market value of such a device will be pretty absurd.
@Arin your argument really doesn’t match the current state of the market. The switch can be a “normal home console” if you simply don’t remove it from the dock. That’s the beauty of it.
Nintendo doesn’t have any reason to “match the performance” of other home consoles because those consoles are only trying to (and often failing) to match the performance of PCs. It WOULD HURT for Nintendo to enter this market: They already eat into each other’s market and it’s a duopoly that Nintendo has no reason to enter. This is even more true considering the designs of Nintendo’s characters and worlds always being more fantasy/cartoon oriented: they would need a total redesign and increased development time to capture an audience.
On the other hand, Nintendo’s success in the 2010s came from their portable 3DS. The 3DS was most Nintendo fans’ way of accessing Nintendo. From 2014-2017 most games of any relevance by Nintendo were released on the device. Why not capitalize on this immense success by continuing to provide to that market while also giving an option of using the Switch as a home console?
The “gimmick” of the switch is honestly genius from a marketing standpoint. With a relatively cheap entry point and a variety of proprietary games, they have captured casual audiences like children and their parents along with hardcore Nintendo fans. They have sold 85 MILLION UNITS, it is one of Nintendo’s best selling consoles and they literally can’t make enough of them to keep up with demand. Nobody “should be fired” for making a handheld, that is honestly ridiculous.
The music in this video is perfect for the tone
“Is it the switch pro?”
“Well yes, but actually no”
Nice copy paste bro. I swear I've seen this comment at least 20 times today 😔
V1 OG switch
V2 switch V2 mariko/switch lite
V2.5 switch OLED.
V3 Switch 4k. Coming next year after the chip shortage
@@theorangecandle its probably not copy and paste its just an easy joke to make
memes do not belong in comments.
"No"
Wondering if your, “Switch becoming the Nintendo’s iPhone” theory is becoming real.
The Switch is basically a tablet. How has no one noticed that? Modders and hackers even went out of their way to put Android into the Switch.
@@ElectroBlastLuigi Huh? Literally everyone knows it's a tablet. Don't think there's even one person who doesn't know that.
This "upgrade" doesn't seem to point towards that. I'd say the only part of this to support it is the new speakers if anything.
Say goodbye to the headphone jack next update 👋
Switch becoming iphone...
iphones are tiny as hell compared to samsung smartphones. So the closest nintendo example would be the GBA, GBA SP, or the gameboy micro you can fit in your mouth, and its smaller than the zelda anniversary game n watch 'console' i think.
All of the leaks suggested the model we got, all of the rumours suggested features we didn't get. Seems pretty clear to me. While it would have been nice to have a new chip in the switch, maybe something with DLSS to support higher frame rates that way, I think this is fine. The last thing we want is another rush on bigger, more powerful models for Christmas and wait literal years for stock to recover. I am a little wary on how long this model will last. I am reminded of the Gameboy design refresh in 1995 when the gameboy pocket released a year later, and the Gameboy colour two years after that. I think this is to bring in all the remaining non-switch owners before Nintendo makes a real upgrade in another 2-3 years.
I love that the editor left in the part where Arlo thinks the dock's logo lights up.
“On this day... this new system will now be known as “Nintendo Icecream Sandwich”
"SandSwitch"
The Nintendo Switch with PS5 type color scheme and design.
@@ZamiyonnGaming 🤯
slang term for the the oled model should be the "Switch Bright" because of the white color and enhanced display as well as to go with the switch lite
this is genius
I love this! I will call it a Switch Bright from now on
It also comes in black with original blue/red controllers, so that name won’t fit.
I like you
@@csjcsj2906 still applies to the brighter screen at least
It definitely is a bummer that we’re not getting a truly upgraded switch, but there really wouldn’t be much disappointment if we hadn’t convinced ourselves there would be. It’s still a substantial upgrade and the obvious choice for anybody buying a new switch.
Here’s my drop in the ocean, I never bought my own switch, I was that person who played all the games on friends switched (they lent it to me, so nice) and I’ve been saying I’ll wait for the “switch pro” to buy my own (and the hundreds of games) I’ve waited THIS long. And now my plan has changed. I’m most likely gonna get this OLED model when legends arceus comes out. (Maybeeee unique switch skin? Maybeee not?)
Just to see what the reviews are like and make sure I’m going into it with alllll the possible info I can so that it’s not too late or too early.
I'll upgrade if I can find one in stores, if not I won't bother. I've had my Switch since launch, mainly play in handheld anyway. A nicer and larger screen will definitely be a plus for me.
My opinion is this, if they launched this as the new base-model at the same price, they'd get plenty of angry fans who just purchased a Switch and would be frustrated they didn't know a better one would be releasing soon for the same price. I'd imagine a Price-drop on both models will come along further into the Switch's lifespan, before this model completely replaces the base-model.
Finally, the Switch is a handheld console. More power = More heat in hands, worse battery life, bigger and more uncomfortable console. Adding more power would take designing a brand new console, which, at this point, they're probably waiting for a Switch 2 to do, considering it usually takes at least half a decade to design, test, manufacture and ready a console for launch. It's easy for us to ask for 4K, better graphics that more power -- But this is a device that is expected to be held in your hand. The PS5 can barley run 4K, and look at the size of the thing. Most of its size comes from keeping the thermals in check so it doesn't run like a jet-engine in your living room. Yes, the PS4 had a Pro-Console, but the console had the advantage of being able to be much larger than the original or slim models. A Switch Pro would not have that luxury.
Why not make a dock-only console then? That would only be an under-powered home console at that point. Nintendo has always dominated the Handheld market, but they've struggled in the Home console market since the SNES days. They clearly have no interest in competing in the home console market anymore.
They could make a far more powerful handheld, that doesn't compromise on power, weight or size. But, it would cost significantly more than the Switch currently costs. I can assure you, only a niche audience would pay for a $400-$500 Nintendo console that doesn't match the power of competitors. People who want power, already have a PlayStation, Xbox or PC, they'd be unwilling to pay for a console with a Next-Gen price tag and Last-Gen specs. Furthermore, Nintendo might be unwilling to utilize that power to its fullest, so not to alienate the nearly 70-80 Million Switch users.
A Switch 2 is most certainly in the works, a pro console wouldn't be wise at this point.
Such a short comment
@@austins.2495 it's far shorter than what I would have written if I didn't have to leave for work lol
To add to your comment:
Games for Play Station/Xbox were often optimized for their respective Pro-Versions, making the base consoles severely underpowered. Imagine this scenario on the Switch, where third-party developers already struggle to provide stable performance. It would be 15fps hell
Personally, I'm not generally a person who cares about "graphics", I don't have any strong interest in 4k or even big feelings on 60fps. Similar to Arlo, I just think the switch needs a little bit more power to run some of the games it already has.
It's not so much a new 3ds scenario where new games are developed for the new system, and run badly on the original. It's that we have games running badly ALREADY, and it would be nice to make them more "playable" at least in some form.
I'm not especially technical, so maybe it's 100% down to bad game optimisation which couldn't be fixed from hardware, but it just FEELS really possible to go "here's a switch that's slightly more powerful, your current games won't struggle so much on it", y'know?
@@Whitepawprint I personally agree with you, as I said however, these things are easy to ask for, but not so easy to implement without cutting corners.
However, if Nintendo were to implement a CPU boost while in docked, I could imagine they could pull out more power from the console. Modders have done it, and proven the chip set has more power than Nintendo utilizes. I personally believe Nintendo refuses to implement this officially, because they want all games to run about the same in portable as they do in docked. However, there are ways to pull more power from the console just through software changes.
I would love a "Pro" Switch myself, but I also don't think it would be a good idea from a marketing perspective, especially if a Switch 2 is nearing the end of its development cycle. We'll probably see one release in 2023, making the Switch OLED our mid-gen upgrade.
People who play mostly in docked: "Alright everybody move along nothing to see here."
I play exclusively handheld and even I don't see anything worth about it.
Not entirely, 64gigabyte internal storage, and included lan adapter, made up the $50 extra bucks, then again, it's not even marketed as an upgrade but as an alternative, it shouldn't appeal to anyone who owns a switch already. The only people talking about it being an "upgrade" are those who started the Switch "pro" rumors, because, why not, it brings tons of clicks.
I got the switch the same month it came out but my brother lost it a couple months ago so it’s kinda cool to know that I can get a new and improved one rather than the same old original model that I was going to replace.
What was the music used in this video? The one with the guitar toward the beginning?
pay $50 for a model that just look nicer.
Apple be like: hold my beer
At least it's $50 for SOME QOL improvements (wider stand, bigger screen, double the internal storage, etc.), whereas Apple charges like $100 dollars more for barely anything new that's useful.
Android master race lol
@@paperluigi6132 1 worse wrong doesn't make a right
@@eberramirez4876 100% dude
The Nintendo and Apple comparison is apt. They are both companies that you love one day, and hate the next.
You remember that old adage that says "Twitter is 90% someone imagining a guy, tricking themselves into believing that guy exists and then getting mad about it?"
Well anyways...
Basically 💀💀
As everyone is pointing out, people are mad because a switch pro is NEEDED not because a switch pro was rumored.
@@jesse1086 citation needed sweetheart. It's a fucking video game console. You don't """need""" a new one. What you need is food and water maybe even shelter and hecking clothes. Get a life and touch some damn grass
@@legendarylucario283 citation needed for what? Them having an opinion?? Also, this is just my own personal note, but it’s funny to me how you use the f word and then use “hecking” in the same sentence haha
@@cordasolis they said "everyone" I'm asking for a citation where they collected the data from everyone since they dared to say that this is 100% needed and everyone feels the same. This isn't merely an opinion anymore. Since we want to bring in everyone. Unfortunately I'm apart of everyone and I'll tell you rn I don't want a shitty switch pro. If you want 4K 60 FPS get a PC or some other console. I for one play PC
Do u think the switch pro will be a more of a home consol thing instead of both with the oled being the new
What's the name/game of the song that kicks in at 5:10? It hits haaaard, imagine it with those improved speakers
The most interesting part of the switch OLED reveal is that the Pokémon Diamond and Pearl remakes are looking better
This is good news
And a clip of Splatoon 3, since we haven't had news for months.
Are they?
SMT 5 > BDSP
In every conceivable way.
@@IkanaMaskedMan Search up the new footage video on TH-cam and try to play spot the difference
So I only have a Switch Lite for myself, but admittedly I still play a lot of 3ds. My husband and I had wanted to get a full size Switch to have for like the house, we could just play it exclusively docked. So I might honestly want one of these. I know my husband and he always wants top of the line tech, so even if OG Switch prices drop (big maybe) we might just spring for this. If I already had a full size Switch, there's no way I'd be "upgrading" to this.
Imagine if the logo really did light up... I'm just saying that would be pretty cool. Plop your switch in it's dock then it'll just have a luminescent white glow on the logo in the front so that you know you did it right. **Satisfaction**
Honestly, the most exciting part of the reveal was seeing how much the graphics of Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl were improved.
they look the same to me
@@michaelk639 there are some comparison screenshots on twitter and i think the background and models look much nicer texture wise
battles were always sword/shield style while over world is the chibish style
@WhinyDogFish Lighting and colors were improved as well as a bunch of effects added. The game looks much more pleasant as a result.
Serious question, how is Pokemon a best selling series? The games look horrible and the gameplay is so barebones
Yeah I'm one of those people who is just laughing at the fallout of this one.
Same
Same. That’s what you get for believing rumours. Don’t blame Nintendo, they never promised a switch pro.
Yeah me too. After all of the constant rumor mongering from TH-camrs. Milking the supposed "pro" speculation for all it's worth. All of their "insider information" and "connections". Eat some crow bitches.
@@jagkopp The rumors are legit. This Switch OLED version is the DSi before the 3DS.
Me too
Didnt one of the switch dock updates have the option to have 4K as well, im thinking they might still let it happen, im just not sure why they have that in the update but not have it for OLED
my theory is that this is going to be like the gameboy light - it’s a slight upgrade, but not the real one.
@@stolenshortsword i think that things will play out the same, just with lengthened time periods
Should name it the Switch Bro. It does the same as the original Switch but a little better and it's bigger.
It's the Switch Bruh
It isn’t bigger. Only the screen is slightly larger.
Community: "Could you fix the online service, and maybe make it free again."
Nintendo: "We had a bunch of these screens lying around."
They very shiny screens
They added an Ethernet port at least
@@quincius8638 There was never an issue with the local connection, the issues are with their servers which they refuse to spend the money necessary to maintain.
@@PlatinumAltaria oh right I got confused sorry
why would we do that?
it makes M O N E Y..
someone take me back to the wii u era
Theory: The performance upgrades were planned, but the global chip shortage ultimately led to their removal.
If that was the case they should of just not release anything because now they have bad po/pr. I wanted the pro and had 400 set aside for it if it was a thing... now even if it comes out next year I will not get it because this is a slap in the face... 50 bucks more for a screen that is barely better... ya ok ima head out.
I think it's more likely the performance upgrades were never planned in the first place.
The whole idea of the new model having better performance came from one article, which speculated that the chip MIGHT be able to handle 4K resolution, and the fans just ran with it.
@@Tycy2014 Nintendo never promised any of the stuff people wanted from the Pro.
If anyone slapped you, it was the gaming journalists who started the rumour mill, and the overexcited fans who fed it.
I understand why your angry, but at best you're pointing it in the wrong direction.
The thing with upgrading the internals is that the only way that can be done is by improving energy efficiency. And I guess there is not so much leeway in that regard where they could make a significant upgrade...
To be honest, I'm happy that the switch OLED isn't getting an internal improvement. I see mid-generation console upgrades to be frustrating and FOMO-ey, especially for those who may have gotten the old model just a few months or a year before the announcement of the new one (animal crossing switch, I'm talking about you). Plus, better performance on the upgraded model will most likely lead to exclusive games which will alienate the incredibly large switch install base.
Also because I'm selfish and I don't want others playing 4k breath of the wild while I'm sitting here with my 2017 switch with 720p
I agree 100%
Meanwhile, PC users with Cemu play BOTW at 4K 120fps lol
(Just poking fun)
This was my sentiment exactly. People who got the hardware early on would be getting fucked, and developers would have to consider both types of Switch when developing games instead of just a catch-all set of specs.
@@saxoman1 till Nintendo finds your IP adress and sues you
Jk lol
At least you admit that you're selfish lol
I'm a just copy/paste my other comment so y'all realize why we want a better switch
It'll only get worse performance-wise. Most developers are focused on the next gen consoles or PC, so the Switch will get left behind no matter what. I'd rather have a Switch that can run games moderately well at like 1080p 30/60 fps (or 4K 30fps with DLSS), than have to suffer at 360p 20fps land that we're in right now.
I “laughed in sad” as the announcement trailer went on and on
Saw that logo led feature on the Nintendo Patent document a few months ago, seems like they did consider a Switch Pro with different controller features as well. Guess we have this for now.
Is an OLED scrren more durable ? Will it survice a fall without apply a tempered glass protection on it ?
I was so tired of hearing about the "Switch Pro". Everyone annoyingly kept going on about it as though it was a real thing, but with that being said, the Switch Oled is pretty disappointing. If my regular 5yo musty dusty crusty Switch will run the same way this "updated" model will, then honestly what is the point?
You bought a Switch in 2016?
@@ArcViper It was a hyperbole. I don't know how long the switch has been out and I'm too lazy to look it up, but yes I bought it in 2011.
@@gallaghercrocodile6136 The switch released in march of 2017
@@tbhandrew5857 That's weird because I got one in 2006.
@@gallaghercrocodile6136 you're not funny dude, no one's laughing
Maybe the "Switch Pro" will be the next generation of console for Nintendo instead of just an upgrade and hopefully it will be retro compatible with Switch games and enhance them. Because honestly I always tought that going 4K was too big of a leap for just a mid-generation upgrade and maybe Nintendo realized that too. Like this they will be able to make games exclusive to the "Switch Pro" but since it's a new generation it won't feel as much like a slap on the face for people who still have regular Switch.
Yeah, I'd much rather have a new generation like the DS to 3DS. That is, backward compatibility and similar form factor, but still a new system and not a half step. At over four years old, the Switch is still going strong, so assuming it can keep chugging along for another two, that's a full generation.
Think you’re right on the money 💯
I think this is what Nintendo is doing. And it’s likely due to silicon shortages that they pushed back the switch 1.5 and will likely announce 2nd gen switch to launch holiday 2022 (burning everyone who bought this OLED switch) and that Breath of the Wild 2 will run with “next gen enhancements” on the next gen switch.
And if the silicon shortages drag the switch 2 to 2023 well then you’ll see aumora ask for more time as to avoid crunch.
@@yaboilettuce7394 2023 is much better time frame for switch 2 then 2022.
Perfect bgm choice. Matches the mood. 🎶😝
oled, great screen but will it like phone when the screen durability was not so great because of ghosting on the screen?
I actually completely expected this, because it happens everytime. People make stuff up, and then when it turns out that something similar was real, everyone is like " :0 we were deceived"
Yup.
Yeah to many people falling for rumors as if it was fact. Then they hate on the company for not delivering on a rumor.
hell yeah, all those rumors about an OLED screen and wired LAN port were totally made up
@@shodancat1000 yeah and why don't you add on all the other rumors they mentioned? Why you picking and choosing what they said? They were wrong. Don't just cherry pick what they ended up being right about.
@@Speedether lol, i can say THE EXACT SAME THING about you. why are you ignoring that some of the rumors were 100% correct?
Just think about this. If the Switch ends up having a 7 year life cycle, that means the current hardware has to last until 2024. 😬
UGH
I think that is likely. I mean, 2017 release of the switch, 2019 new model & switch lite, 2021 OLED model
Maybe they announce the switch 2 or whatever fall 2023 and release early 2024?
@@davidmares388 Yeah I could definitely see that happening.
No way in hell people are still going to support this hardware that long. The sooner 4K DLSS comes, the better.
Yeah you remember when they were talking about how the Switch gonna have a ten year lifespan… let’s hope they don’t follow through
One extra note about the dock.. It has rounded edges now to try and reduce switch scratching a bit. Barely anything, but thought I should note
I still have the first model, so getting this will be a massive improvement, no matter what.
I can always count on you to be critical of Nintendo's shortcomings and not dismiss everyone's complaints because, "WeLL iT's BeTtEr ThAn NoThiNg!!!", you summed all my thoughts up perfectly. For those who're excited for this, that's great, more power to ya, but I'm not spending 350 dollars on an "upgrade" that doesn't even improve performance.
Yep I’ll keep the 2017 switch until I get a better performance
i wanted to get the "switch pro" since i’ve had the same switch since launch day and i really want that increased battery life and i was hoping for some upgrades to performance and stuff, but this…. this aint enough for me to put that much money on the table.
We got the increased battery life with the V2, I guess you'll have to wait longer for the rest of the features you want.
I was one of the few pro sceptics laughing so hard right now. I love it
i'm still rocking my original switch, no joycon issues, no battery issues, and it's still running beautifully (though severely lacking folders)!
on your point about monster hunter stories 2 having framerate issues, i've seen it help a lot to turn off the tracking camera!
Before we needed to worry about joycon drift, now we have to worry about our screen burning images because OLED and just to be clear, yeah they kept the same type of joycons so you'll have drift too