Yamaha P125 vs Roland FP30 vs Kawai ES110 - Portable Piano Test

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  • @hidan125
    @hidan125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +617

    Im using this to help myself compare each style in all 3 pianos better.
    Classic Style
    Yamaha: 2:16
    Kawai: 2:49
    Roland: 3:15
    Ballad Style
    Yamaha 3:45
    Kawai 4:21
    Roland 4:55
    Jazz Style
    Yamaha 5:33
    Kawai 5:53
    Roland 6:12
    Popular Style
    Yamaha 6:36
    Kawai 6:58
    Roland 7:20

    • @anhleviet2972
      @anhleviet2972 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fexin Fierce a

    • @yusings
      @yusings 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thanks...what piano you like n choose ?

    • @xXDeltaCAXx
      @xXDeltaCAXx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      To me I feel like the Yamaha sounds really good for Jazz which is what Im trying to learn atm!

    • @hidan125
      @hidan125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hi. I chose the Yamaha p125 because in my opinion it sounds more authentic to a Concert Grand. Of course I tried them in person before picking, because in when you actually play them they definitely sound and feel different.

    • @LazarevDenisBalakovo
      @LazarevDenisBalakovo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I choose Kawai Es-110, because it is the clearest sound and minimum self-noise.

  • @RDMNC
    @RDMNC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I played both yamaha and roland on the store and decided to go for yamaha. It felt much smoother. And i really liked the feeling of the keys. Now i cant wait to get it! waiting for birthday... uh

  • @jarbasgoulartdecastro9104
    @jarbasgoulartdecastro9104 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The P 125 sounds like a real grand piano. I identified the P 125 only listening (keeping my eyes closed) to you playing 3 times the entire video.Much better for me.A real deal.

  • @zairemrenthlei9478
    @zairemrenthlei9478 6 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I love the kawai's warm tone

  • @stijnremels5887
    @stijnremels5887 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I bought the Roland and couldn't be happier. I went to the store with my mind set on the Yamaha P125, but I changed my mind quickly when I tried them next to each other. The touch of the keys of the Roland feel so much more dynamic and expressive in comparison to the Yamaha. It really inspires you, even as a beginner like me, to play with much more feeling and expression. One thing the Yamaha does better in my opinion are the organ sounds, but then again, I don't really use them.

    • @DoubleGauss
      @DoubleGauss 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed !

    • @AT1Tan
      @AT1Tan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wanted to like the Roland over the Yamaha as I testet both today. I like the yamaha more so I didnt buy any of them. Thinking of getting a Roland fp60 instead.

    • @davidmagemluque4780
      @davidmagemluque4780 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stijn Remels I bought a Roland years ago and I felt the same when I played them at the shop.

    • @ajwallace381
      @ajwallace381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I purchased the new Roland FP10, will be delivered tomorrow.

    • @jortepap
      @jortepap 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tried them all too.
      imo the the keys of the P125 feel waay better. I like the sounds much better too

  • @fairfour2852
    @fairfour2852 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My recommendation.
    These are all incredible. After trying them all I found the KAWAI to be the most perfect for me. I felt the keys didnt grip on it if your hands are moist, and the depth of which the keys go down is perfect, allowing for easier access for your fingers if they are stretched and transitioning to other keys. It has Bluetooth on it, and I found there to be a better selection of other sounds on the KAWAI.

    • @arnav4253
      @arnav4253 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice Choice Mate ! I Went For The RP -102 .
      Wish Me Luck :-) !

  • @davidbaez8442
    @davidbaez8442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The sound of the Kawai is much more detailed and the dynamics change with the finger power just like a real piano

  • @robertstrong8966
    @robertstrong8966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Tone is a matter of taste. All three are good, and each brand's voice will appeal to some. Roland is my preferred choice for BOTH closest sound to fine, acoustic grand realism--and the best action [for me]. Proof: I bought and thoroughly enjoy my Roland FP-30. While Yamaha & Kawai have good actions, only Roland keeps up with playing speeds which demand rapid repetition (Examples; Chopin_Fantasy Impromtu and Debussy_Dr, Gradus Ad Parnassum.) For slower & median speeds (ballad & easy pop), any of these 3 do well. ONLY Roland meets more advanced, critical fingering demands without failure to sound the notes struck. Kudos to the Gent for his excellent, impartial demonstration!

    • @vibhupandit3221
      @vibhupandit3221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly tone is a matter of taste , one has to find his own tone

    • @amalksuresh286
      @amalksuresh286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's harder to play fast passages on roland

  • @Avedis-G
    @Avedis-G 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I just picked up the Roland and could not be happier. To my ear it easily beats the other two.

    • @marcusaurelius2988
      @marcusaurelius2988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it have the background Hiss noise as in the video?

    • @ahmedeldardeery2529
      @ahmedeldardeery2529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How does it fit classical music?

    • @Avedis-G
      @Avedis-G 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      E. No it doesn’t. It sounds incredible. I love it.

    • @Avedis-G
      @Avedis-G 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahmed Eldardeery it has many grand pianos to choose from.

    • @ahmedeldardeery2529
      @ahmedeldardeery2529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gavin Simmons im sorry can you elaborate more ? What do you mean by it has many grand pianos to choose from. Im still new to the piano and trying to make a decision but its overwhelming :/

  • @mattaki
    @mattaki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    They all sound good in a different way. They all feel good in a different way. Having played them all, the Roland was overall the best feel and sound together in my opinion, but all of them are good options.

  • @MoreliaIInvestigator
    @MoreliaIInvestigator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I bought my kawai es110 over a year ago and never look back! They sound the best out of the three!

  • @wpelfeta
    @wpelfeta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have to say, I was extremely impressed by the Roland. I've always used Yamaha since I was a kid, but I have to admit out of the three Roland sounds the best.

    • @ernaldo1848
      @ernaldo1848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah that white noise background was really cool, with those random audio distortions even better. Not saying it was the piano's fault, maybe something about the recording or the editing, but still you really can't say it sounds the best from this video

    • @ernaldo1848
      @ernaldo1848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually the yamaha too had that white noise in the background but quieter than roland

  • @mgshow8596
    @mgshow8596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Why its soo hard to choose between this three..😪

  • @sirnigelcogs
    @sirnigelcogs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    They all sound nice. You can tell they're modeled on three different pianos. The Kawai has a certain charm to it, but I think I prefer the Yamaha overall.

  • @infozoet3952
    @infozoet3952 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Everybody speaks about the sound alone...how about the touch? Way more important, especially when you're starting to play, to get the right feel in your fingers!
    Personally, I think the Roland has by far the best touch.

    • @arnav4253
      @arnav4253 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro i am going for the rp 102 in 65000 inr ....
      Plese tell me is it good :-)

    • @Mnkmnkmnk
      @Mnkmnkmnk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@arnav4253 I did exactly that. Waiting for the delivery.
      From my research, RP 102 is basically the FP 30 in a console form. It turns out cheaper compared to getting the FP 30 with separate stand and separate triple pedals.

    • @ught2304
      @ught2304 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yamaha

    • @shitalvaishnav192
      @shitalvaishnav192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arnav4253 korg

  • @jimaldon
    @jimaldon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Kawai's bass and lower notes are unparalleled

  • @martian-sunset
    @martian-sunset 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After watching a lot of comparison videos the Yamaha P125 always sounds the truest to an acoustic grand to my ears. The Roland would be #2 and the Kawai #3. I've heard the action on the Yamaha is not quite as good as the others...but the quality of sound for live gigs is most important to me.

  • @dmitrystanik3483
    @dmitrystanik3483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think that soundwise the KAWAI sounds the best.
    I did love more some details from the yamaha and some from the Roland as well.
    The problem with Roland in general is that the sound of their instruments tends to be too metallic sometimes. And I did play a lot on Rolland in the past.
    As for Yamaha it doesn't sound as much accurate as the KAWAI.
    In most of the cases Kawai sounded more realistic to me.
    One thing that you have to remember, that the speakers sound is not the sound that you will get when you connect the instrument to the PA system.
    That is by the way to me as a keyboardist and a sound engineer the most important thing to check. So it's good to have these videos around, so you'll know more or less the sound of the instruments.

    • @ido1061
      @ido1061 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dmitry Stanik
      Totally agree

  • @patricj951
    @patricj951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So many different opinions here! And yes, there are different opinions about acoustic pianos too.
    I have no possibility to compare these 3 side by side and I have seen several video reviews and read a lot of opinions regarding P125 and ES110 in a significant favor to ES110, so I ordered it yesterday. I am pretty sure I had been satisfied with anyone of these 3 digital pianos, though.

  • @Elopierek
    @Elopierek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I listened for a long time and think that they all have great sound

    • @Elopierek
      @Elopierek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in blind test win kawai :)

  • @mistereasy2587
    @mistereasy2587 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It is a personal preference. I prefer Yamaha because I grew up playing their pianos. I find the Kawai has more weight in the speakers thus managing a fatter sound. Roland is a preference but just as reliable in quality and expectation. Choose what you like after trying them and not for comments or specs.

  • @angelogarcia4220
    @angelogarcia4220 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Kawai ES110 is the best. It mostly resembles grand piano sound. Its vibration and acoustic sound is superb!

  • @yakubkamaran2492
    @yakubkamaran2492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For those of you guys who are experienced with Roland fp 30, have you had any issues with the clunky/rattling noise the keys make? I’ve heard some people complain about this issue and I’m really looking forward to buying the fp30 but this is my only concern.

    • @briansun6336
      @briansun6336 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No matter which one you buy, it is always going to be clunky. dadadadadadadadadadada when you play. acoustic pianos have the clunky sound as well. Have you ever tried Yamaha's Avant Grand? The key noise is like cutting veggies on a kitchen board.

  • @DynamteKid316
    @DynamteKid316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got the Roland FP30 & we love it! Even though I used to work for Yamaha but sells Roland products too! Thanks!

  • @v3xman
    @v3xman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I actually got to try these three on separate occasions. Here are my opinions of them:
    The Roland FP30 sounds clean: bassy and bright but felt lacking in midrange. The strings sounds the best out of the three but I hate the fact that it doesn't have a line out. The functions are also hidden and can be unintuitive to use.
    The Kawai ES110 feels good to the hand, if not a bit too heavy. The string sounds is 2nd place and piano sounds good too. My only complaint is its speakers are not too loud as I'd like.
    The Yamaha P125 piano feels full though feels a bit muffled when listening through its speakers. The string sound is serviceable. Being able to use it as an audio interface is a plus for me.
    Personally I picked the Yamaha because out of all the three, I enjoy playing it with it's more responsive keys and fuller piano sound which I liked. Not everyone would agree though, and it's really just a matter of taste and preference.

    • @MontagoDK
      @MontagoDK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Roland was upgraded with Lineout in an update: FN+F7

    • @Mnkmnkmnk
      @Mnkmnkmnk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't get why lineout is such a huge drawback, when the headphone out can be used instead. Everyone argues that the sound quality of headphone out is not good compared to the line out, but I have never witnessed any difference whatsoever in multiple devices which have both ports.

    • @v3xman
      @v3xman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mnkmnkmnk true, sound quality might not be that different but as a performer, having a line out means you can plug it to the venue PA system AND also hear what you're playing through the built-in speakers.
      You can't do that with just headphone jacks because it shuts off the built-in speaker if something is plugged in (there are exception to this, with DGX660 having a software setting to keep the speakers on even with something plugged to headphone jack)

    • @Mnkmnkmnk
      @Mnkmnkmnk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@v3xman the FP30 does allow the speaker to work while the headphone is plugged in. It's a setting in the updated firmware.

    • @jpnz
      @jpnz ปีที่แล้ว

      Kawai ES110 feels a bit too heavy? This confusing to me since i read many comments about it that it's one of the lightest action out there?

  • @VincentPride1986
    @VincentPride1986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Kawai sounds more subtle, Yamaha sounds more grand, Roland sounds more digital. I personally like Yamaha's grandness, but I'm playing exclusively romantic and ballad pieces, so checking out Yamaha's mellow piano variation would be also great. Not sure if Kawai has mellow variation, it probably shoud. Also, comparing touch and feel is also important before choosing one.

  • @An1MuS
    @An1MuS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nobody mentions aesthetics but... the Yamaha is best looking of the 3 :))
    This would be my review for those interested:
    Sound: Yamaha - 4.5 - sounds slightly better than Kawai, more lively ; Kawai - 4.5 - great sound, a bit more melancholic than Yamaha, has a much better dynamic response than Yamaha though; Roland 3.5 - a mixture of being the most artificial / realistic. Difficult to pin point, but sounds the worst.
    Key Action/Feeling: Roland - 4.5 - most realistic, although a bit on the heavy side, key material is the best; Kawai - 4 - realistic, but spacing between keys are uneven, a bit bouncy, the noisiest; Yamaha - 3 - Feels way less realistic and more like a toy than the other 2 not only because of the action but also because of the plastic surface.
    Rest: Yamaha - 4.5 - Looks the best, good connectivity, best speakers position (the only one with them facing upwards), good functionality of buttons, very little complaints of manufacturing problems, most recognizable brand which helps the piano hold value if you're looking for resale in the future; Kawai- 3.5 - Ok looking, good functionality of buttons, ok connectivity, least recognizable brand; Roland - 3.5 - Ok looking, functionality of buttons is not handy, ok connectivity, the one with most complains of issues (clicking noises mainly).
    Final points:
    Roland: 11.5
    Yamaha: 12
    Kawai: 12

  • @MorganWallaceMusic
    @MorganWallaceMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yamaha P125 hands down.
    My 1st pick/recommendation for piano students who need a keyboard!
    Thanks so much for reviewing them side-by-side, Bonners Music!

    • @bonnersmusic
      @bonnersmusic  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks Morgan!

    • @Jike.
      @Jike. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but if you're looking for a PIANO then get the FP-30. Yamaha sounds better to the untrained ear. I know this because every beginner usually prefers the sound of the Yamaha but every trained professional I've seen on youtube and asked IRL prefers the Roland FP-30.

    • @doctor1alex
      @doctor1alex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't really care about sound, I just would like the most realistic key action to a proper piano.. any ideas for under £1000?

    • @Jike.
      @Jike. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alex Jackson FP30 ALL THE WAY! the best action in that budget hands down. I got mine last week and I promise you it's the best. Look no further

    • @risingdawn5788
      @risingdawn5788 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jike. Thanks for the reply, I'm not actually getting one anymore (or right now at least)!

  • @Eggs_is_eggs
    @Eggs_is_eggs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    They all sound good and whichever one you buy, you will get used to the sound in ~5 min and be satisfied with it. However, in a back to back comparison I think the Kawai sounds the best, 2nd is Roland and Yamaha 3rd.
    If I was going to buy one of these pianos, I would definitely choose the Yamaha though. It has the most features of the three, has support for a great app and is the cheapest.

    • @alicaramba7680
      @alicaramba7680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All of them sound ugly. You should buy one of these: th-cam.com/video/gldvU8sv924/w-d-xo.html

    • @FuzzyLogicxxx
      @FuzzyLogicxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alicaramba7680 At least twice the price of these models.

  • @alexmisterpianoman
    @alexmisterpianoman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I bought an Kawai ES110 from you because I love the natural and yet positive feel of the Kawai keyboards and it performs superbly for me. I had a Roland FP7 which was nice and smoother action, but after getting acclimatised I much prefer the positivity of the Kawai action which feels very precise though perhaps initially it felt a bit clicky till I got used to it. For the piano sound of the Kawai I most often remember to go to the warmer tones of piano 4 or 5 particularly for the higher register. You only have to hit the button four or five times to go there. Most of all I love the ES110 for its lightness to carry so I no longer have to feel afraid to take my own instrument instead of using one at the gig. Possibly all three are a similar weight?

    • @noahbenzing1485
      @noahbenzing1485 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because you're a cheap self-centered homophobic old man and can't figure out how to flush your toilet?

  • @davidcunningham7432
    @davidcunningham7432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just rented a Roland FP10 for a month. Compared to my 30 year old Yamaha Clavinova, it is a dream with acoustic piano action and sound. The FP30 in this video has the same very bright tone. I’m looking to purchase eventually but will rent a couple of more times before buying. The Roland FP30X has added some extra features making it a strong candidate. Connectivity and compatible apps is also a major consideration for me as well. It’s hard to find good reviews on the apps so I’m trying them out myself.

  • @playonkorg
    @playonkorg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I play piano in a pop fusion jazz band with a separate Hammond on a leslie and in the studio for commercials. I tried the Yamaha p125 and FP30 (thanks dealer)in a band .More expensiver piano's has no function when you play together in rehearsal rooms,the hammeraction feel are both good.One special point for me to choose is : when I practise with the band I dont want my piano over a PA with ugly speakers ,so it must be loud enough by its own.The P125 has a bit more attack in the piano sound and its combines nice in a uptempo song (rock and roll) .Sometimes I wave to the drummer to stop play louder.(enthousiasm)because i didnt hear myself.The P125 has that nice bite in the Fender when you attack the key hard,for the ritme in the song is that nice (Supertramp).The FP30 sounds commercial with a common faster accepted sound and when pratice with the band,it can play louder because nice speakers,specialy in the mid mid/high soundcollor(thats what you hear when you play together).I went to the dealer and he show me the ES110 and when I play on it,the world didnt exists for a moment.If you are pianist and you are learning and teaching and you play allone,the Kawai is the best,If you play together and other sounds are mixed like drums bas guitars(with 1000 distortionspedals) and you want to be a part of the mess,the P125 and FP30.If you want to use only the pianosound with hammeraction in that band(with standalone synths),use the FP30.If you want to play over the PA and use your own speakers,the P125.If you want to play over the PA and your own speakers are no issue,FP30..If you want to play overall commercials.FP30.If you want to play solo classic with more piano feeling(better keyaction) and piano is the lead without other sounds,ES110.Thats my experiance. NOTE: there is no 1 solution for every situation,Rolls Royes is a beauty but not for the cross in mud.

  • @yamamoto8921
    @yamamoto8921 6 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I judged these 3 pianos in the music store, played them side by side then took off my credit card and purchased the roland f30 in white right away

    • @CornyChalky
      @CornyChalky 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Well done! Best choice! Curious what made you decide on FP30?

    • @yamamoto8921
      @yamamoto8921 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      the progressive hammer action of the fp30 is unmatched compared to those two, the way it feels when you're playing it is closer to that of a grand piano also the tones are richer and crisp

    • @vp2465
      @vp2465 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me Nature Hi!
      Friend, I’m trying to choose between these 3 but didn’t have the oportunity to play the side by side.. What can you tell me about their speakers?

    • @khwamrak8880
      @khwamrak8880 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I played side by side some hours ago and FP 30 is astonishing concerning the quality of the speakers compared to Yamaha. No way you can compare. Yamaha is way behind. With headphones same result ! Astonishing ! I did not focus on the power of the speakers but you can buy directly if you want quality.

    • @vp2465
      @vp2465 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pacôme Paranormal Thank you very much!! I think I will buy the Roland today. I don’t know why, but I have sympathy for the brand ahauhuua. Again: Thank you a lot, friend

  • @georgegiblin
    @georgegiblin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought a Yamaha P-125. But as many have noted, the decision must be a subjective one. Get what you find sounds best to your ear, and plays best to your feel/touch. I do have to say I am also influenced by the fact that Yamaha has a long track record building top-line acoustic pianos.

  • @samwang5831
    @samwang5831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent review. The dynamic range seems best on the Kawai, you can hear the subtle difference in strength, the Yamaha does not do so well in this department, however, the bass is best in the Yamaha and worst in the Kawai. Roland has 3 sensors, in theory it should detect the key position more accurately than the other two and so provide a better response, especially when playing fast. You need to find out for yourself if this is true.

  • @donhowardii1626
    @donhowardii1626 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great review using the NEW Yamaha P-125. I really like the sound of the Kawai but love that ios app for the Yamaha. Really makes it user friendly and easy to change sounds and settings IMO. I had my mind set on the Kawai ES110 but now reconsidering the Yamaha with the NEW P-125. Thanks again for your awesome review.

    • @bonnersmusic
      @bonnersmusic  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for your comments Don!

  • @PilatomahawK
    @PilatomahawK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    the quality of the speakers is another point, I think they must be compared using the same headphones for each digital piano

  • @MaccGaz
    @MaccGaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yamaha and Roland sounded much better on my setup compared to the Kawai. The Roland had a background hiss from the microphone though too, which was a slight disadvantage - or was it plugged straight in? I thought the Yamaha was the most "full" sounding which edged it for me.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @tigerex777
    @tigerex777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At the end of the day, they're all pretty much similar and you can always change the sound after you plug it to your laptop of PC; so I would chose the one with the best key action. So yeah, I got the Roland and I love it.

    • @DynamteKid316
      @DynamteKid316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, got the Roland FP30 love it!

    • @gramirez72
      @gramirez72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dan L
      That’s a really good point, we can change the sound easily. I’ve tried the Roland in-store and it feels really good to play on! It also sounds really good for live playing, and would be great as a midi keyboard. I’ll be using it for both live gigs and orchestration/scoring projects.

  • @dilsonmaffei3273
    @dilsonmaffei3273 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    O melhor é o P 125 da Yamaha. Gostei tb do FP30 da Roland.

  • @34jared
    @34jared 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video. I think it would be even more helpful if you played the EXACT same piece of music the same way in all of the clips for a direct comparison.

  • @NordKeyboardGuy
    @NordKeyboardGuy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    These comments aren't helping me. I'm just going to go to the store, and check them out for myself!!!

    • @ximaxwellix
      @ximaxwellix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MarkSomosoMusic
      The Sound to USB thing is a good point...
      I will go to a store tomorrow and test both of them so I can be more clear about my choice.
      Until then my choice would be the FP-30. I like the sound a liiittle bit better than the Yamaha.
      The + point for the Yamaha would be what you just mentioned. That the FP-30 has no Sound to USB, is the only concerning thing for me. I'll have to buy a new Headset / Headphones just for the piano. While that would not be that huge of a problem, I am wondering how that will play out when using software like eg. Synthesia.
      As I understood, the FP-30 can't stream sound through USB, but MIDI. Which would mean, that eg. Synthesia would detect the keys that are played, but could not play the pianos sound? D: (Ok... rethinking that: ... When using Headphones at the same time, I'd hear the notes through that...)

    • @anthonyme00
      @anthonyme00 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ximaxwellix I think you got it wrong, Synthesia would use whatever synthesizer is available, and that includes sending MIDI messages to your Roland or a built in synthesizer available on most modern OS, so the sound can come out of your DP, PC, or both. However, you can't output sounds directly to your FP-30, only MIDI messages, which means you're relying on your FP-30's synth.

    • @AlexRoseGames
      @AlexRoseGames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anthonyme00 synthesia uses microsoft's gs wavetable synth anyway which sounds garbo so you wouldn't want that to come out of your piano. If you want realtime zero latency play, you want to plug the midi from your keyboard into an audio interface that supports ASIO (e.g. a cheap one would be behringer 204hd), take the midi input from your keyboard, download loopMIDI, output to its virtual midi channel, boot up FL Studio or similar, turn on the ASIO driver and audio input, then put in Fruity LSD in the mixer, and route the midi channel into there.
      That way it can output your playing directly into the GS wavetable like synthesia, or you can use any VST or midi sounds you want.

    • @artwizardsam3238
      @artwizardsam3238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm new to this, I'm thinking about the FP10 (Which is very similar to FP30) as my first Digital Piano. I still don't get it, are you all saying that I can't record FP10s built in sounds by connecting it to a DAW? And is the MIDI available Only through bluetooth or can I also connect MIDI through some sort of USB output? Please reply.

    • @sammysoon3727
      @sammysoon3727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hahhahahahahahhahahhahahahahhahhahahahhahahha... i laughed 50 trucks for this,,,, so funny comment ive ever read so far...youre so cute dude!

  • @wilfriedangekoffi2910
    @wilfriedangekoffi2910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for helping us to make a choice. 🤗😊

  • @xueyitan
    @xueyitan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What is the name of the ballad piece? I really like it :)

  • @cihad2003
    @cihad2003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dont fall for the specs as I did. In bought a roland FP30 because it has better specs on the paper but while the specs of the kawai es110 seem inferior the sound is incredible more natural. And keep in mind Kawai is making just pianos - so there much more focused on this topic than the other companies.

  • @yiensnotsofabulousjournal3526
    @yiensnotsofabulousjournal3526 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    2:22 sound test

  • @princejackson1985
    @princejackson1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First thing my Advise is go to music shop and try playing all three yourself and you will have different opinions, I have play all three. For the most, Yamaha has a lot more tone, functionality and keys are heavy like a real piano,
    Yamaha has two advantages, bigger in size, more like a keyboard and more fun to play with.

  • @anhpham6506
    @anhpham6506 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I really prefer the warmth of the Roland to the brightness of the Yamaha. I went to a musical instrument store in my area recently, but they wouldn't turn on the Roland for me to try 😢

  • @kaustabhalder
    @kaustabhalder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even before seeing this video I got the Yamaha P125 - which is awesome in terms of sound and feel ... 100%... :)

  • @fernandezramon21
    @fernandezramon21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kawai ES110 for me. Yamaha also sounds good but there is that twinkly overtone which I fear would be more pronounced and annoying as the instrument ages. I have also tried both and the touch of kawai ES110 is better.

  • @abath07
    @abath07 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The ES110 has the better key action, the most important factor for a pro. The piano sample sounds of the three are debatable.

  • @txuscostalago
    @txuscostalago 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you ear the grey noise in the roland sound? I think this is because this keyboard hasn't L/R output, only has phone output

    • @CornyChalky
      @CornyChalky 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not the issue here, for sure some recording settings were the problem... I personally recorded with FP30 and the recording was without that noise. They just united both headphones and line outs in one port. Here is another guy's recording with the FP30. Check the great recording quality.

    • @drubenw
      @drubenw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CornyChalky and what would L/R do anyway? These aren't stereo instruments. They're mono...

    • @CornyChalky
      @CornyChalky 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drubenw Well, the line outs from some keyboards can be selected as mono or stereo. Fp30 has only stereo line outs.

  • @StarCraftNoobTrainer
    @StarCraftNoobTrainer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When is he showing the movie?

  • @itsspirit9053
    @itsspirit9053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I like the sound of the Kawai keyboard.

  • @AustinCasey
    @AustinCasey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Notice how the Roland has a touch of decay on the staccato notes/chords making it sound more like a real piano. The others don't really have this and it takes away the realism. Sure, the others sound good alone, but comparatively the Roland is TOPS. 💯

    • @pianoman1347
      @pianoman1347 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      and quite Chorus-y

    • @iota8732
      @iota8732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bright and natural.

    • @openmind2161
      @openmind2161 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a Guitarist who is searching for his first piano ,noticed that .

    • @MacXpert74
      @MacXpert74 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fuad Efendi [2] I'm pretty sure they recorded the line-outs on all of them, not the speakers with a microphone. That would not have given you this sound quality.

    • @MacXpert74
      @MacXpert74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Fuad Efendi [2} Yeah the recording here is in stereo. I always listen with my headphones, and it's clearly in stereo.

  • @davidr3246
    @davidr3246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bonner’s Music Superstore: Great video and comparison. Perfectly edited!

  • @DemiDemiGlace
    @DemiDemiGlace 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    So hard to choose I love all three

  • @Jimepaaaage
    @Jimepaaaage 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had planned on buying the Roland but fell in love with the Yamaha when I played them side by side. I didnt like the bounciness of the Roland keys. The Yamaha feels and sounds great, brought it home last night and I couldn’t be happier!

  • @delcorporation-qmsvideos5140
    @delcorporation-qmsvideos5140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can't go wrong with any of them. I just fell in love with the Yamaha. I went to the store with the intent of buying the roland, but when I got there the combination of the feel and sound changed my mind. After the fact... the addition of the app made the purchase even better. Again you cant go wrong, but I highly recommend the Yamaha.

  • @namakudamono
    @namakudamono 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great job Tony! There's really not much in it between these three...I guess it depends on an individual's personal preference.

  • @calbackk
    @calbackk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was very helpful. Thanks a lot. Over all Iiked the Yamaha best, but for pure piano sound I preferred the Kawai.

  • @robertbushell7125
    @robertbushell7125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What is the first classical piece he played called?

    • @loremipsum4095
      @loremipsum4095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayyo, im still looking for it. Damn its been 2 years.

  • @jackgulibertapazaruiton3185
    @jackgulibertapazaruiton3185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the video, what's the name of the classic style theme?

  • @ednewmy
    @ednewmy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To my ears this is split between the Yamaha and the Roland. I find the Roland's clearer sound works great for the first and last test, and the 'warmer' sound of the Yamaha worked better on the middle two.
    I remain as undecided as before lol

    • @lazvegaz
      @lazvegaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me, too. But I'm a hard core Yamaha fan, so I most likely would go for that one.

  • @empireentertainmentevents1353
    @empireentertainmentevents1353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Yamaha is the clear winner for me. Sounds the most natural!

  • @coonalisa230
    @coonalisa230 6 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    This comment section couldn't be more polarizing. I was hoping to order one of these online, I guess I gotta go to the store and try each my damn self.

    • @DV7Dave
      @DV7Dave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I did the exactly that. FP-30 wins by a country mile. The action and feel of the Roland was the most premium of all of them, the three trigger sensors and the extra sound modeling that you don't get with the others sold me.
      I wanted a keyboard to learn on, but also a midi input board. My FP-30 will be running piano VSTs 99% of the time, so the onboard sound was not nearly as much of an issue for me as other people.

    • @alxcross1850
      @alxcross1850 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DV7Dave I saw your comment and went to try it at the store. You are spot on in your assessment. Waaay better than P125

    • @coolgamerman
      @coolgamerman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DV7Dave compared to the es110?

    • @DV7Dave
      @DV7Dave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@coolgamerman The ES110 feels very good (as good if not better). But I think the Roland is better over all.

    • @coolgamerman
      @coolgamerman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      DV7Dave what about for like stage performances?

  • @kusheater86
    @kusheater86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best content hands down! Thank you Bonners sold me my Casio 560m. most underrated reviews on the tube.

  • @ludovichergott325
    @ludovichergott325 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What is the name of the classical song ?

  • @edgyyjaden9949
    @edgyyjaden9949 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What is the name of the first piece you played?

  • @aitorjara100
    @aitorjara100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can I put the roland keys on the P125 to have the perfect piano? :'D

  • @hansenvspredator7812
    @hansenvspredator7812 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got my P-125 last week and I love it. From this video Kawai sounds the best of all three.

    • @remixowlz
      @remixowlz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you guess who I am? Im getting mine on Wednesday!!

  • @Frank-in-NY
    @Frank-in-NY 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Terrific comparison! Enjoyed your playing as well. Was the audio recorded from each keyboard's internal speaker, or fed directly into the camera? I thought the Yamaha sounded the best, you should sell a lot of these!

  • @paoloco412
    @paoloco412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the name of the song used for the ballad part? I want to learn it thanks! :)

  • @theol8137
    @theol8137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have tried P115 , ES110, FP30
    FP 30 is best for self pratice at home got the best key action but you need a better speaker or headphone for that sound
    For the stage performance the P125 is definately a winner by the features

    • @sorucha8249
      @sorucha8249 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you I was looking for someone to compare ES110 and FP30

  • @billfroug
    @billfroug 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I recently bought a P-125 and I like it so far. To me it has the most natural piano sound. Roland sounds very sterile to me. Lots of bass and trebble but poor midrange. Might be suitable for a band but not if you play alone. Well, it's a matter of taste. After all the touch of the Roland keyboads is very good indeed.

  • @levistephens8256
    @levistephens8256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m torn I own a Kawai es110 and I really like the sound but over time it’s developed a clacking like sticking sound with the keys and I’ve heard the key action with the Roland fp30 is really good and I’m thinking of switching to it but I don’t think I like the sound as much. What should I do? Pleas help!

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch the comparison video and reviews made by ThePianoforever channel. He's a real reviewer, not a piano shop employee. He may convince you that you made the right choice after all. Also might be a good idea if you tried the pianos in a shop.

  • @007silverwings
    @007silverwings 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tempted by the ES110 over the P125. I see a lot of the first batches of ES110 had a lot of random gaps between keys. Has this been resolved in recent years?

  • @paonicgem
    @paonicgem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kawai has the best sound for me, it speaks to me more, just bought one

  • @fathulbari2010
    @fathulbari2010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A month ago I was buying a new roland fp 30, i'm so happy & no regrets.....😁

    • @Name-jw4sj
      @Name-jw4sj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought too last week! The only thing I don't like is that the speakers are on the bottom so it sounds deeper than it should. I wished they placed the speaker on top.

    • @johnbisp
      @johnbisp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny that you still need to compare :-)

  • @howardbull9001
    @howardbull9001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There seemed to be a great deal more line noise from the Roland?

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes because they have to use a headphone output with lower quality than the line outs of the others.

  • @andyzhou7928
    @andyzhou7928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the background noise is much more higher in FP30 than the other two? Is that due to the limitation from its headphone jack or it's simply because the recording setting is different?

  • @PlayRiteProductions
    @PlayRiteProductions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What was the first song you played? It's amazing!

  • @scrapemailscrapemail1384
    @scrapemailscrapemail1384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful comparison, thank you for comparing them side by side with the same songs.

  • @alfred.clement
    @alfred.clement 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @Bonners Music Superstore What is the name of the piece played in the 'classical style' section (beginning part) ?

  • @Arczii1337
    @Arczii1337 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one is more [du]riable I mean generally does not break faster/earlier?

  • @safetyofficer7759
    @safetyofficer7759 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yamaha and roland on this review stood out... Yamaha being more natural sounding while the roland a bit vibrant... Kawai in my opinion is a bit muddy but i guess the price tag would justify it... Great review and comparison, Bonners!

  • @AhmadThabet-qw1kc
    @AhmadThabet-qw1kc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Regardless of the feel and touch of the keyboard fingers, whether weighted or touch response, the Yamaha P-125 sounds like a real Grand Piano, when compared to the two other models !

    • @Nico-rw2tl
      @Nico-rw2tl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Malheureusement non, aucun des trois pianos ne sonne de près ou de loin comme un vrai piano... Par contre, vous pouvez utliiser des vst très crédibles avec votre P-125.

    • @aitorjara100
      @aitorjara100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The typical french guy answering you in French XD

    • @ron88303
      @ron88303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aitorjara100 Let me translate it for you: "Blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah P-125." (No offense intended to either of you; just having fun.)

  • @osbornmansu6467
    @osbornmansu6467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to get the title of the classical piece you played first?

  • @BuckstarrZ
    @BuckstarrZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How was this recorded? All three of them sound nothing like in this demonstration, there had to be some additional processing or something.
    It's not just a mic recording their onboard speakers, right?

  • @AngelPlayStar
    @AngelPlayStar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yamaha half volume :) , love the sound and feeling

  • @sfomann
    @sfomann 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I clearly prefer the sound of P125 over the Roland FP30 through my computer feeding the Arcam rPAC dac and my Grado headphones. Now to the question, which one is better keyboard feel? In the past, about 8 years ago, I had preferred the Roland (RD 700GX) Progressive hammer with escapement and ivory feel over the GHS of Yamaha. I am not sure if they have improved on it now.

  • @ayrtoninchejanampa6874
    @ayrtoninchejanampa6874 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In the manual, in both English and Spanish, the Yamaha P125 says: "Even the tonal changes produced by the damper pedal and the subtle sounds of releasing a key are reproduced. The sympathetic vibration (string resonance) that occurs among the strings of an acoustic piano has also been simulated", I would like to know if this is true or not, especially the samples of the keys when releasing them and the resonance of strings, are characteristics that should be reviewed because that could be the difference with the P115

    • @CIRCADES
      @CIRCADES 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayrton Яxt88 Roland also has it, don't know about the Kawai

    • @bonnersmusic
      @bonnersmusic  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is indeed true, but this technology is also available on the Yamaha Clavinovas. Yamaha have been able to improve the sound of their digital pianos by incorporating these features in more recent years. So it only makes sense to include this in the newest P125. That being said, these additions are subtle and designed to make the Piano sound as close as possible to an acoustic piano within the limitations of the portable piano design. I would recommend playing them yourself to really appreciate how these new features compare to previous models.

    • @CIRCADES
      @CIRCADES 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bonners Music Superstore Also, the ability to enable or djsable these 'features' would be nice. On the Roland, they are always enabled...

    • @ayrtoninchejanampa6874
      @ayrtoninchejanampa6874 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Henri V That's what I wonder, nowhere in the manual I find how to modify or activate / deactivate those features, the description that I put is in the final part of the manual as the description of the GrandPiano1. In any case, it must be a fixed characteristic

    • @VincentPride1986
      @VincentPride1986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sympathetic string resonance is a huge deal if true

  • @johns1844
    @johns1844 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Listening with headphones while looking away from screen, I definitely think the Yamaha sounds most like an acoustic piano in this comparison.

    • @jortepap
      @jortepap 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah the P125 is the best.
      tried them all many times. I was thinking of buying a Kawai but I bought the P125

    • @nezkeys79
      @nezkeys79 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The kawai really does sound terrible and i can actually vouch for that as recently bought one and was disgusted with its sounds even through headphones once home. The UI is terrible as well as there is no screen and the buttons arent marked with anything other than just piano so its hard to know how to get to the kne you like the best quickly. Cant expect much for 400 quid tho.
      Im looking at buying either the yamaha cp4, yamaha cp88, or yamaha p515 now which i believe to contain the most authentic acoustic piano sounds. i used to have my heart set on the kawai ES8 and kawai mp11 se but after playing the es110 id never buy them. Nord casio roland dont really do anything for me. That just leaves korg grandstage which is probably my third fave

    • @EfratEliahu
      @EfratEliahu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jortepap hi, trying them all what did you feel has the best action, dynamics & pressure as a real piano?

  • @PlusEVpush
    @PlusEVpush 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    best piano comparison video.... loves this kind of comparing.
    Thank you for your hard work and passion for sharing this video.

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best comparison video is definitely the one from ThePianoforever channel. He's a real reviewer, not from a piano shop and he really highlights the differences between these keyboards.

  • @omvativerma6930
    @omvativerma6930 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which song was the classical

  • @julioramirez330
    @julioramirez330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the Roland fp30 last weekend, but now i think Kawai es110 sounds better, what do you think?

    • @stenaldomehilli8809
      @stenaldomehilli8809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a piano student for my entire childhood I think that among the three compared here the FP 30's Pianos sound closer to the real thing. Don't you worry one bit, you've made the best choice. Yamaha does better in the E-piano department, and the three products presented here offer good organ sounds, yet I'd say that ES-110 has slightly better jazz organs. Again, in the piano section, when it comes to authenticity, Kawai's model is the worst sounding and I guess most people who have experience with real pianos would agree with me. Yamaha is somewhere in the middle and it took me a while to decide on the FP-30 which will arrive in a few weeks.
      Enjoy your Roland and I wish you well!.

  • @hoangm.lawrencenguyen106
    @hoangm.lawrencenguyen106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It appears that you are using the same stand and pedal for all three pianos. Is that a universal stand and pedal?

  • @emmanuelebenesar
    @emmanuelebenesar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    no two yamaha aquoustic piano sound the same.. so sound is not a big deal for choosing a digital piano every model has its own unique sounds
    The main thing is Hammer action and key feel ...i personally tried all three instruments.. Rolands key feel and its progressive hammer action is really the best in segment... I am goind to buy Roland

  • @lewis1285
    @lewis1285 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Yamaha P125 costs about 150 bucks less than the Roland FP30 where I live. The on-board sound is not really an issue for me, as I plan to use it as a MIDI controller anyways. I'm just wondering if I should spend the extra 150 for the better keys that the FP30 offers. Would it be worth it?

    • @drkekenstein5750
      @drkekenstein5750 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im in the same exact boat myself. I guess our only option is to try them out at the store

    • @lewis1285
      @lewis1285 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drkekenstein5750 I wish I could. But the nearest store is just too far away from where I live, so I have to make my decision (relying on other people's opinions) and order online.
      By the way, I also have a third option in mind, Casio's PX-160. This is actually the least expensive option, but I do have some concerns since I've seen quite a few people complain about the key action (keys get noisy and loose after a while, etc).

  • @milagrosrodriguez8169
    @milagrosrodriguez8169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video, performance and very clear in the ears monitors 1.kawai 2. yamaha 3. Roland at least in this category,, somehow.. the warmer piano from Kawai deliver the perfect taste for me. in the jazz sample was very difficult..but I believe I would buy the Kawai, obviously there are other features to be consider as a plus in this kind of portable boards, but so far the video showed, I would choose Kawai. personal taste of course. TXS for posting such good demo video!