what about an arcane spec 31/10/0? Arcane blast buffing Balefire is interesting. 2 Arcane blasts is not mana intense and buffs 30%. 2ab - balefire - Arcane barrage at zero stacks? I would include a fire mage in the grp for scorch buff. Most grps will have 1.
still not work with hotstreak as it should or 20% chance for missiles barrage in wotlk frostfire did and this is the arcane+fire bolt so it will make sense it works with hotstreak or missiles barrage ofc in SoD frostfire cannot work with them: same rune slot but also feel like a mistake frostfire bolt is on that rune slot (the dev. said that with a other rune for a other class i forgot what RN) it was a oversight : meanwhile head rune dont have a fire spec rune so could easy move frostfire there
Yeah I would LOVE for FFB and hot streaks to be on separate rune slots. Maybe they should add a flex slot where you can put any tune you like on, would be awesome!
I use FFB with a 0/10/31 build, so a frost build. The thought is that whatever I may lose in DPS our fire mage with FFB will gain and I think that people are sleeping a bit on frost. Since most gear is spell power rather than elemental damage I'm wondering if its worth having ice lance in my rotation or if I should stick with living bomb - in boss fights that is.
Living bomb mate, the frost 0/10/31 build isn’t too bad but you wouldn’t wanna waste FoF procs on ice lance when you can do mega huge FFB’s :) I think you’re right though it is slept on / secret tech. I have a frost mage guide in the works ;)
I assume BFB procs with arcane talents, arcane sub and arcane focus when mobs are more suseptable to arcane spells. I also like Clearcasting....so ill stick with BFB in raids.
Thanks, for sims use cheesehyvel for SoD. Right now don't go for hit, you're capped from talents so its a wasted stat. The best values I've found are: 1% crit = 9 SP = 56.25 int. Thanks
@@SeanoHere Ohhh yeah completely forgot about that , thanks for the info ! My addon did not include the talents when accounting for my hit chance , so i dont need any on my gear in order to hit the cap ?
@@lavahitpaok no, since these bosses are +2 you only need 5% to cap. You get 6% from talents and FFB actually double dips from that so we're way over hit cap from talents alone :)
New raid is fun but damn is it expensive on pots, about 50g on my server for a raid. Playing Mage seems less about how to do your rotation, ABC etc.. and literally managing your consumables which is really annoying since you kind of disengage with the encounters and are just focused on when to hit that next mana source.
Dude day they fixed balefire I was still using frostfire bolt and was hardly critting whilst the day before in ST I was critting nonstop did they shadow nerf frost fire while fixing balefire bolt??
FFB will go for the highest spell damage, it won’t double dip. That said having frost power will increase cone of cold and deep freeze, it has a lot more value as a frost mage
Hi mate, its hard to say without knowing your current gear. You basically want to get the biggest upgrade. That said Atal'ai Blood Ritual Charm and Drakestone of the Blood Prophet are very good choices.
Yeah, if you have a frost mage then FFB is best/safe. To min max in a very short fight or perfect scenario then BFB is better, popping combustion and icy veins at stack 4 and the boss dying at stack 9. I can only see BFB worth it for boss 1 at the moment.
@@lavahitpaok FFB would still be best for mage running Winters Chill I believe. One thing I would like to add on this is that the sims are based on NO mages running winters chill. Most guilds are running diversified groups now so its best to assume nobody is a frost mage so the sims are based on that.
No.. they haven’t put much effort into mage tbh. Even the STV event reward is a ring with 1SP more 😂 but that’s fine let’s see what happens in the future
Same old, not much has changed although recently I healed a dungeon using my fire spec with a combination of arcane blast + balefire bolt and it was totally possible. Pretty funny
The average duration of fights is hovering about 4:30-5:00 aside from first boss which is 2:00. FFB smokes balefire.
First boss you can smoke in 1min, I’ll test BFB in there later, rest I’d use FFB for now
Thanks for the vid. Gonna stick with FFB. Prob balefire on very short fights then switch back.
Thanks for your comment, yeah no worries I expect we will see more use of BFB when fights are much shorter
what about an arcane spec 31/10/0? Arcane blast buffing Balefire is interesting. 2 Arcane blasts is not mana intense and buffs 30%. 2ab - balefire - Arcane barrage at zero stacks? I would include a fire mage in the grp for scorch buff. Most grps will have 1.
Yeah I have a few ideas for it but the sims don’t support that at the moment so it’s impossible to say. We’d have to raid test it at some point
still not work with hotstreak as it should or 20% chance for missiles barrage
in wotlk frostfire did and this is the arcane+fire bolt so it will make sense it works with hotstreak or missiles barrage
ofc in SoD frostfire cannot work with them: same rune slot but also feel like a mistake frostfire bolt is on that rune slot (the dev. said that with a other rune for a other class i forgot what RN) it was a oversight : meanwhile head rune dont have a fire spec rune so could easy move frostfire there
Yeah I would LOVE for FFB and hot streaks to be on separate rune slots. Maybe they should add a flex slot where you can put any tune you like on, would be awesome!
I use FFB with a 0/10/31 build, so a frost build. The thought is that whatever I may lose in DPS our fire mage with FFB will gain and I think that people are sleeping a bit on frost. Since most gear is spell power rather than elemental damage I'm wondering if its worth having ice lance in my rotation or if I should stick with living bomb - in boss fights that is.
Living bomb mate, the frost 0/10/31 build isn’t too bad but you wouldn’t wanna waste FoF procs on ice lance when you can do mega huge FFB’s :) I think you’re right though it is slept on / secret tech. I have a frost mage guide in the works ;)
I assume BFB procs with arcane talents, arcane sub and arcane focus when mobs are more suseptable to arcane spells. I also like Clearcasting....so ill stick with BFB in raids.
Beautiful video as usual
Thanks
@@SeanoHere btw the roar of the dream ring procs a lot
Really nice content , straight to the point. What site are you using for sims ? Also how much sp do you think 1 hit chance would be equal to ?
Thanks, for sims use cheesehyvel for SoD. Right now don't go for hit, you're capped from talents so its a wasted stat. The best values I've found are: 1% crit = 9 SP = 56.25 int. Thanks
@@SeanoHere Ohhh yeah completely forgot about that , thanks for the info ! My addon did not include the talents when accounting for my hit chance , so i dont need any on my gear in order to hit the cap ?
@@lavahitpaok no, since these bosses are +2 you only need 5% to cap. You get 6% from talents and FFB actually double dips from that so we're way over hit cap from talents alone :)
New raid is fun but damn is it expensive on pots, about 50g on my server for a raid. Playing Mage seems less about how to do your rotation, ABC etc.. and literally managing your consumables which is really annoying since you kind of disengage with the encounters and are just focused on when to hit that next mana source.
Yeah I agree, consumes are so expensive at the moment. Hopefully in time the prices will come down!
Dude day they fixed balefire I was still using frostfire bolt and was hardly critting whilst the day before in ST I was critting nonstop did they shadow nerf frost fire while fixing balefire bolt??
nice update - what do you think about Roar of the Dream ring? not many mentioning it on BiS list but it's a standout
Need to test it properly but looks BiS on paper
@@SeanoHere let us know how you go with findings bro
Hi, thanks for the vid. Does stacking frost power and fire power actually works ? or is it completely useless
FFB will go for the highest spell damage, it won’t double dip. That said having frost power will increase cone of cold and deep freeze, it has a lot more value as a frost mage
Question for you Seano, i get to soft reserve two items from the raid excluding icons, tokens etc... which two items would you prioritise?
Hi mate, its hard to say without knowing your current gear. You basically want to get the biggest upgrade. That said Atal'ai Blood Ritual Charm and Drakestone of the Blood Prophet are very good choices.
@@SeanoHere Full P2 BiS, was thinking the same, trinket and off-hand.
i prefer 5% crit for molten
That would be running FFB and thats perfectly fine
@@SeanoHere Can you run Molten simulation too 😂
@@InsertYourself1 It is in this simulation, FFB has molten armor :)
@@SeanoHere idk how people figured you wernt simming w/ molten armor, what else would be in that slot boys? lmao
@@reesalas BFB lol
Where can I find your test UI please ?
so maybe beginning of phase we go FFB and once your raid team gears up you switch to bael?
Yeah that'd be the best way, once fights are shorter then BFB is very good
Cheers for this. I think i'm going to stick with FFB.
Thanks mate
FFB probably takes the cake if you have a frost mage applying Winters Chill, yeah?
Yeah, if you have a frost mage then FFB is best/safe. To min max in a very short fight or perfect scenario then BFB is better, popping combustion and icy veins at stack 4 and the boss dying at stack 9. I can only see BFB worth it for boss 1 at the moment.
Balefire is insane on Morphaz, unless you're LoSing the damage phase.
Good point, you can’t LoS the mechanic anymore though as we found out last night it’s been fixed
@@SeanoHere oh no
I’m trying to understand the purpose of BFB. Who is it for?
I like the fantasy of it. Not a min maxer
On the mage discord i think someone said its nice for the mage running winter's chill , cant confirm nor deny tho
Its a new fun ability, glass cannon of PvE
@@lavahitpaok FFB would still be best for mage running Winters Chill I believe. One thing I would like to add on this is that the sims are based on NO mages running winters chill. Most guilds are running diversified groups now so its best to assume nobody is a frost mage so the sims are based on that.
@@SeanoHerewhere’s the cannon though?
Do you agree that the Arathi Basin Rep. Belt is the BIS belt in the phase? Gives 9 spellpower and 1% crit
Yes - unless you can get hold of a +26 fire damage green belt, that sims higher
22seconds to get to 9 stack's of bale then what do u do ? Ty
Back to frostfire bolt until the debuff expires
@@SeanoHere Why not scorch to proc pyros?
casters seem to be falling really behind right now. melee are doing 30-50% more damage especially on single target encounters.
Yeah but mechanics are also ranged friendly, for the average player/guild mage can still top the meters if played well
Doesn't feel like they put much thought into the mage rotation this phase.
No.. they haven’t put much effort into mage tbh. Even the STV event reward is a ring with 1SP more 😂 but that’s fine let’s see what happens in the future
link of sim siteweb ?
Updated PvP guide when? :)
Done ;)
FFB gets 10% crit aswell from frost support
Yeah but whose lucky enough to have a mage running winters chill for them? Not my guild xD
whats with mage healer?
Same old, not much has changed although recently I healed a dungeon using my fire spec with a combination of arcane blast + balefire bolt and it was totally possible. Pretty funny
BFB is a useless rune, just like Spellfrost
No it’s nowhere near as bad as spellfrost
Frostfire bol and balefire bol
Spag Bol
BFB sucks. makes no real sense.
Glass cannon style ability, only the downside being mana regen
Mage ruined with no piro procs rune spit blizz