@Bunny Yeah people tend to underestimate our ancestors' capabilities and ingenuity, the whole "ancient aliens" thing was based on that tendency (apart from a huge lack of scientific knowledge of course).
I was thinking the same thing! When the explanation of how the chess player inside both saw the moves made on the exterior board.. and then could move his own pieces at will from within the cabinet I was grinding trying to figure out how a series of magnets could be assembled to make it work, and work so reliably. Incredible all by itself!
*Chess back then:* This machine is too smart, a human mind must be controlling it *Chess now:* This human is too smart, he must be using a Chess Engine
I dont care if it was a lie, the engineering that must have gone into it to allow the Turk to shadow the person controlling it and move the pieces with precision across the board must have been incredible.
I do think it would have been possible to create a automated chess machine that almost always won even back then. Off course it would be absolutely huge and entirely analog. Although I doubt anyone would have had the time, resources and knowledge needed to create something like this.
That's what I think too. The player must have been fantastic and terrified and that isn't a good combination for winning. Imagine if someone like Napoleon had decided to shove a sword through the bottom or some such thing.
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@@TheGauges420 being interesting has nothing to do with how long you live unless that is the interesting part. it has to do with what you do. most people have an uninteresting life with few good moments but alas none are interesting enough to be recorded in history. that "box" fooled a lot of important people for decades as being one of a kind and in the end it truly became one.
Anything capable of trolling Napoleon Bonaparte _and have him be happily amused about it_ surely has a history more compelling than 98% of us in YT. I don't feel inadequate. The odds were stacked against me from the start, lolz.
What if research into robotics had started as early as the middle of the 18th century, by the 19th century chattle slavery could have been abolished and thus no American civil war.
Because his voice is soothing, I decided to use Thoughty2's video to fall asleep. But the kind of characters that appeared in this video made me doubt whether I was trying to fall asleep or was already asleep
Using a pantograph, assuming all the joints were tight, the moves of turk would be identical to his own. I am more interested in how it tracked moves. Magnets only go so far and could not track lifted parts
@@justingrey6008 you know which piece was moved and to where it was moved, so you can infer the move. (for example you see A2 to A3, you know what to move.)
@@justingrey6008 (edit)tl;dr: as long as you know the full state of the board before, if you know from where to where a move is made, you know the full state of the board after. you'd know exactly where it lands, as you can't pick up multiple pieces at the same time. I'd imagine, you see where all the pieces are, and given that you know where they started, you can always know where all the pieces are as the game progresses even if you don't see which pieces are where, just where are all the pieces. and you can easily replicate the board, as you see a piece go out, you pick it up, and then when you see it reappear, you put it where it reappeared.
@@satibel that would imply some sort of visual system on the board. Which could be done with mirrors but mirrors work both ways. How would you track pieces so they could be blindly moves and tracked remotely? And to do it before modern (any) electronics.
What an utterly fascinating story. It's the sort of thing you'd see in a Hollywood adaptation and complain about all the liberties taken. _"Come on, Bonaparte, Franklin AND Poe? Get out of here with your fanfiction!"_ Reality can most definitely be stranger than fiction.
I immediately thought, there must have been several film adaptations of this story, historical dramas, or something. But I can’t find any. I’m confused. This really could be made into a fascinating movie. I thought the same thing when I saw a TH-cam documentary about the serial killer H.H.Holmes - Tim Burton / Johnny Depp haven’t done this yet?!?
The ability to see what pieces are on the board and to send that to a hidden board is impressive. Also moving pieces in the visible board via mechanical arm is impressive. They were fooling people through the use of very clever engineering.
@Graham Murphy this video says something at least. The other one is the whole time hinting a reveal of the way the turk worked, to then just take us to the house of an old dude that is supposedly an eminence in illusions and that knows how it functioned. Just to have him tell us he won't reveal shit. LOL. Not even conjectures, anything. At least this one contains the version of someone related to an owner.
“And like many depressed men, he turned to drink. He died from alcohol poisoning during the voyage” This man couldn’t even wait to get home, he must have been drinking by the literal bucket load
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at that time most people had to drink alchohol (mostly beer) on ships because it was much cleaner than the little "fresh" water they had on board.
@Forever Changed Alcohol withdrawal is the worst experience i have ever had in my life. The symptoms literally feel like you're dying, no exaggeration. Landed me in the hospital once, then I worked out the 2nd one on my own
@Forever Changed Same situation, im getting out of the habit slowly, I am still physically and mentally strong but its overtaking my ability to do my duties sober and efficiently.
I was told by a pharmacist who worked at the VA for several years (before going to the private sector) that standard treatment for alcoholics was to slowly diminish the amount of liquor they would consume. Because if the patient was cut off completely (going cold turkey) the strain on the patient's organism would be so great it would kill them.
Which was based on the original book "The Invention of Hugo Cabret" by Brian Selznick. The book is _far, far_ better the movie, you really should read it.
Very interesting story. One correction: Maria Tereza was, if I remember correctly, empress of Austria and queen of Hungary and Croatia, not Bulgaria (which was in that period a province of the Ottoman Empire)
It may have been an illusion that the Mechanical Turk possessed any true AI, but the engineering required to build such an automaton is truly impressive.
SCP-1875 is a Euclid class object and it was was a chess robot that was built by a Russian chess champion in 1875 but parts of the machine were built by by his then missing twin daughters with the chess pieces being made from their bones and when the SCP Foundation took it back to the foundation the machine would have later take over the wireless connection by corrupting files, changing reports, deleting files, and finally sending a disturbing picture of two twin girls with black hallow eyes
@@WaterVolt1917 well I mean you know what snuff boxes were right? most of the forefathers were using a bit of nose candy. also come on, those rebellious town hall meetings where they all worked to set up a new never tried before government, and never really tried since, maybe it's cause I'm lame, but I'd fucking call that one hell of a party that I wish I could have partaken in. also highly suggest you google image search snuff boxes, god I hope I'm spelling snuff right. those things are gorgeous. they really had some serious craftsmen back in the day.
@@caesertullo1824 I never said he didn't snort some lines I'm just saying I'd be surprised if he were to ever have some fun with hookers. I mean he was a Christian man after all.
"With the automaton destroyed, Mitchel's son, *Silly Ass*..." As someone with a friend called Silas, It's amazing I don't recall anyone ever calling him that in highschool. Also surprising you went and called the guy that here. Did he wrong you?
Dude, I just want to thank you for being one of the only channels that isn’t politically charged, self centered, a rip off, reactionary, or any of the other bullshit genres that makes up 99% of TH-cam. THIS is the type of content I come to TH-cam for. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I didnt expect they were doing it for money LMAO, if some dude came up to me and was like "Wanna prank Napoleon?" Id say "Do I?!?! IS THE SKY BLUE MY SIR???"
The gift of hindsight being what it is, I figured a human was involved somehow from the start, but what a fascinating story, presented flawlessly by you as always. Keep up the great work! You have an uncanny ability to entertain AND inform!!
Actually, even though it was a hoax, the Turk must have had some pretty smart mechanics inside of it to convincingly reproduce the movements of the chess master inside, and for him to be able to unerringly follow his opponent's moves. It's always a bit of a give-away, though, when a machine loses its temper. There was another automaton that could write pre-programmed texts - and it wasn't a hoax. It was a mechanical marvel of its time.
@@swiftfox3461 Clearly, it _wasn't_ impossible. Some mechanical inventor did it 200 years ago, at a time when many other fantastic automata were made - able to write a sentence, or the silver swan (Bowes museum) that swallows a fish. But my point was, that many people feel that there was nothing wonderful about it because there was a human chess player inside - so there was nothing clever about it. It was, nonetheless, a feat of design and fine mechanics. Fine mechanics goes back further than that, of course - but that doesn't mean it wasn't an admirable feat of ingenuity. Clocks are fine mechanical contrivances, and they have existed for quite a while, and the Antikythera mechanism has taught us that some technicians had detailed mechanical knowledge, even BC. But gearwheels were cut by hand, we believe, with a chisel. Try that some time. Just make a pair of meshing gearwheels without the aid of anything other than hand tools, and see if you don't think that fine mechanics without the advantage of machine tools is not "pretty smart mechanics".
Chess playing pianist here. It's still known as Maelzel's Metronome and if you've ever wondered why at the beginning of some pieces have the indication MM: crotchet = 88, now you know what the MM stands for.
There’s actually a short story this inspired called “The Automata,” about a similar machine, that also was an illusion. It’s an interesting story actually, with a mystery element involved.
There was also a novel written by a Roman author that was... basically Hitchhiker's Guide. I think it was called "The Most True Story" or something and the first line was "This story is all fake."
Amazing video as always! Just a tiny correction, Maria Theresa was a Queen of Hungary and Bohemia. Bulgaria was still fighting for independance of the Ottoman Empire during her rule.
I saw a movie where the "Turk" actually was a clear system of gears and levers and was controlled by a midget that was hidden inside the box at the bottom.
@@fernandojuarez4499 - sorry that was a translated - dubbed over from some other language movie from way back in the 70 - 80`s. I think it was German made, I could be wrong.
This is, by far, among the most interesting videos I've lately seen. We will really have to work out if many the information that was said to be true is true indeed. But again is undeniably, a fantastic video. Thank you, keep on!!!
An amazing story made to be incredibly enjoyable and entertaining only for it being masterfully narrated. You could definitely be a professional narrator for historical documentaries and such.
I love the idea of Poe being so upset at this illusion being sold as a real robot that he publishes a whole paper on it and he finally thinks it's out of his life and later his physician is like "yo edgar, look at what I just bought!"
This would be one of those things to go back in time and rescue someday just before it was destroyed. Wouldn't change the past, but it would be an incredible historical artifact.
@@MarioMarioBW one would imagine that if we have the technology to time travel, we might also have the ability to scan and perfectly replicate things. So maybe the time traveller replicates it and leaves the copy
In our language, which is also Kempelen's mother tongue, the inventor's name is correctly Kempelen Farkas. At that time, the names of the people entering the royal court were automatically changed to the German / Austrian name system, hence the "von". That man was a mechanical genius anyway, a separate video could be made of all his machines
Why waste 5 minutes everyday with a boring repetitive task, if I can put some extra effort in and not have to deal with it ever again? (Also automating things is fun, doing repetitive mindless tasks is not ....)
So a random European guy in the 1700s indirectly created the computer, predicted mass paranoia on machines taking over jobs, and inspired Sherlock Holmes, just to impress a girl
The fear of automation is baselessly founded. As a person who lost his job twice to robotic automation, I was inspired to return to school and now I am on my way towards my registered nursing degree. In most first world countries, this is an assisted process.
Key word being "Most." Not so here in the states, as far as I know. My countrymen need to realize that bringing back factories won't bring back their jobs, because why would a company pay a person to stand there and weld the same exact line on car after car when they can have a machine do it for zero pay and with greater precision than even the steadiest human welder?
@@masonsykes2240 well they wouldn't unless they are forced to , wouldn't surprise me that much that they are forced to hire and pay people as if they didn't have those machines only keeping the efficiency bonus of AI and machines , but most probably governments will go the ubi route instead if they want to keep their heads anyway.
This is what I tell a lot of people who get upset over new technology 'taking their jobs'. It may take the ONE SPECIFIC JOB, but it also generates more (think of programmers, engineers, technicians, who have to work on/with these robots to make them perform properly). Most often the jobs are generated in other fields, but I look at it more as a 'shifting' of jobs then a deletion. If you get yourself retrained (and aren't a lazy ass falling into the competency trap that's brought down whole companies) you can switch over to one of those shifted or created jobs.
@BrazilianFlow It's because this channel is known for changing the Titles of his videos constantly. People should comment every single change of name here, complete with timestamps, if they want.
"Thats gonna give me nightmares" LOL you have great humor. I read about the chess playing Turk when i was a boy, in Readers Digest i think, even then they said it had a lot of empty space in the cabinet where a small chess player could sit. Still i thought at the time, how many small chess grand masters are there? Your research is very thorough and informative, and very funny, like the robot thinking 'please leave me alone', i think AI will actually reach that stage, where it will no longer want, or need, humans. Now THAT is a nightmare :D
This story is amazing, it's a sideline to a best-of in eighteenth and ninteenth century historical figures and situations, while also representing values and innovations of the time.
Prediction before i see the answer to how the turk actually worked in this video: 1. Either it was all a trick and a chess pro was controling its moves somehow. 2. Or the chessboards all 64 tiles were pressureplates, and all chess pieces had diffrent weight, depending on their type and color. And depending on how the pieces were all placed on the chessboard it would act as diffrent combinations (similar to how a combination lock on a safe can trigger it to unlock, only this would be million times more complex to build) and depending on what combination the pieces are in that would "unlock" a very specific counter move by the turk. I am not very knowledgeable in mechanics so i dont know if would be realistic or not to build this, but as for now this will be my prediction. I really hope it's revealed in the end how it was done! :P
My prediction is, since the turk is always white, it might be 'programmed' to do an opening and predicted the next moves just like some opening traps. But of course thats impossible that time. So the only answer to his undefeated record is a human controlling it.
So, You decided to comment before watching the video to show off your amazing thought process of the outcome? OK. And if this was the late 17 early 1800s, Would your prediction be the same? Just watch like everyone else then give your feedback rather than being pedantic for likes lol
@@danimayb It's called having fun you party pooper. And i never do things for likes. And it's called projection when you judge others based on your own personality. So you must've commented that for likes.
This reminds me of the episode of Flapjack where the villain has a whole bunch of “automated machines” and robots that are all just secretly run by orphan children
Quick fact correction: Maria Theresa was not the queen of Bulgaria. Bulgaria was under Othoman rule/slavery/colonization at that time and didn’t have kings or queens.
Man this story has the biggest character crossover I've ever seen
I was thinking the same thing, first time so many giants experienced the same thing
Aye.
And biggest simp of the centuryies
beethoven, edgar allen poe, been franklin, napolean bonnaparte, another guy named ludwig, this is bigger than endgame
Is... is this a crossover episode?
Ok sure it was a hoax, but even the mechanics of moving the pieces from inside the box is still pretty smart for 1770.
I agree
Agreed.
Not really. The pantograph was invented long before this. Magic tricks were nothing new either.
@Bunny Yeah people tend to underestimate our ancestors' capabilities and ingenuity, the whole "ancient aliens" thing was based on that tendency (apart from a huge lack of scientific knowledge of course).
I was thinking the same thing! When the explanation of how the chess player inside both saw the moves made on the exterior board.. and then could move his own pieces at will from within the cabinet I was grinding trying to figure out how a series of magnets could be assembled to make it work, and work so reliably. Incredible all by itself!
*Chess back then:* This machine is too smart, a human mind must be controlling it
*Chess now:* This human is too smart, he must be using a Chess Engine
That pretty much describes the future path of AI - integrating it into humans as Intelligence Amplification.
Technology is crazy
@@zane13232 Encouraging people to visit your channel is considered self-promo.
"Hax n00b lol needs chess b0t 2 win gg no re" - Timmy aged 9 vs world chess champion
.... i got a online chess game ad.....
I dont care if it was a lie, the engineering that must have gone into it to allow the Turk to shadow the person controlling it and move the pieces with precision across the board must have been incredible.
Yes as well as the way it was designed to specifically fool people that would inspect it there was a lot of thinking involved when this thing was made
Not to mention it literally inspired the creator of the first computer this is lowkey one of the most important things in human history
I do think it would have been possible to create a automated chess machine that almost always won even back then. Off course it would be absolutely huge and entirely analog. Although I doubt anyone would have had the time, resources and knowledge needed to create something like this.
Agreed.
That's what I think too. The player must have been fantastic and terrified and that isn't a good combination for winning. Imagine if someone like Napoleon had decided to shove a sword through the bottom or some such thing.
I’ve always found this hoax delightful just for how well it was pulled off, how long it lasted, and how many notable historical figures were involved.
The fact that it inspired the invention of the very device we are using right now is so astounding
Can you imagine how terrifying it would be to be the guy playing inside the machine and hearing NAPOLeON BONAPARTE challenge you?
sweats tactically
And then have the guts to smack his pieces off the chest board lmao
Yes nepolian bonaparte
@@owogamingchannel850 Emperor of Fronze.
@@owogamingchannel850 just like Egdar Alan Poe
Edgar Allan Poe really was like "I've never seen you and the Turk in the same place at the same time" and the guy just starts sweating.
Among us games in a nutshell
I see you are an unus
@@YahNation And I see you are an Annus.
Yes
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Imagine making a wrong move and then you hear a mumbled
"Wow what an idiot!"
Napoleon sneezes
"oh dear..bless you..i..i mean check!"
"THERE IS A HALFLING INSIDE!" - average d&d player
Gideon Mwaura is such a doubting Thomas🤦
That has 250 years of history, most likely you only have 15
@@shrigmian well even over the average of 75 we still wont be even 1/4 as interesting. Although I'm already at 30 and feel the same way so.
@@TheGauges420 being interesting has nothing to do with how long you live unless that is the interesting part. it has to do with what you do. most people have an uninteresting life with few good moments but alas none are interesting enough to be recorded in history. that "box" fooled a lot of important people for decades as being one of a kind and in the end it truly became one.
@@lucasbiermann257 living for centuries definitely helps my guy
Anything capable of trolling Napoleon Bonaparte _and have him be happily amused about it_ surely has a history more compelling than 98% of us in YT.
I don't feel inadequate. The odds were stacked against me from the start, lolz.
Napoleon and Benjamin Franklin both died fully believing in A.I. Think about that for a moment.
Why?
@Daniel McCoy it's a rhetorical statement 😂
Elliott Carson I think it was a joke
What if research into robotics had started as early as the middle of the 18th century,
by the 19th century chattle slavery could have been abolished and thus no American civil war.
@Daniel McCoy robot
I forget about Thoughty2 for a couple years and he's stalin when I come back lol
Username checks out.
Small world, huh?
Joe Steele
Bill Stalin the working class chap from Birmingham?
Think you got commies on the brain.
Same
Because his voice is soothing, I decided to use Thoughty2's video to fall asleep. But the kind of characters that appeared in this video made me doubt whether I was trying to fall asleep or was already asleep
I use MST3K 😴
i wake up knowing so much more lmao!
That’s pretty damn cool! So you have discovered how to learn while you sleep, kinda like Dr Strange did.
Dude same
It's still extremely impressive that the turk would've had enough dexterity for the hidden player to accurately select and move pieces.
Using a pantograph, assuming all the joints were tight, the moves of turk would be identical to his own.
I am more interested in how it tracked moves. Magnets only go so far and could not track lifted parts
@@justingrey6008 you know which piece was moved and to where it was moved, so you can infer the move. (for example you see A2 to A3, you know what to move.)
@@satibel pick up a rook, you have 4 points that piece could land.
@@justingrey6008
(edit)tl;dr: as long as you know the full state of the board before, if you know from where to where a move is made, you know the full state of the board after.
you'd know exactly where it lands, as you can't pick up multiple pieces at the same time.
I'd imagine, you see where all the pieces are, and given that you know where they started, you can always know where all the pieces are as the game progresses even if you don't see which pieces are where, just where are all the pieces.
and you can easily replicate the board, as you see a piece go out, you pick it up, and then when you see it reappear, you put it where it reappeared.
@@satibel that would imply some sort of visual system on the board. Which could be done with mirrors but mirrors work both ways.
How would you track pieces so they could be blindly moves and tracked remotely? And to do it before modern (any) electronics.
IBM Computer: nervously makes a random move.
Kasparov: "This utter brilliance could have never been done by a mere machine!"
It's amazing. Dumb fucking luck
"He claims to have been able to hear the automaton's last desperate words above the roaring flames:
'gg'."
EZ
“What are you going to do? Burn me?”
Get Rekt
"I'll always come back"
gg ez
What an utterly fascinating story. It's the sort of thing you'd see in a Hollywood adaptation and complain about all the liberties taken. _"Come on, Bonaparte, Franklin AND Poe? Get out of here with your fanfiction!"_ Reality can most definitely be stranger than fiction.
Damn Jaws over there has got it a true kind Wise soul
I immediately thought, there must have been several film adaptations of this story, historical dramas, or something. But I can’t find any. I’m confused. This really could be made into a fascinating movie. I thought the same thing when I saw a TH-cam documentary about the serial killer H.H.Holmes - Tim Burton / Johnny Depp haven’t done this yet?!?
Even without the man inside, the turk would still beat me at chess
How was this 2 hours ago for me it says the vid was released 14mins ago
Ethan Toft he joined the channel and one of the perks is early access to videos
@@tortistortis it cld also just be a glitch. Ive seen a comment say 2 days old and the vid said 10 mins ago
to be honest most humans would lose at chess if they had a man inside them.
Same😂
This robot beat Ben Franklin & Napoleon, inspired computers & Sherlock Holmes
All that and the princess STILL turned him down.
Yet this robot wasn't a robot at all, just a ruse.
Too bad it wasn’t actually a robot.
The ability to see what pieces are on the board and to send that to a hidden board is impressive. Also moving pieces in the visible board via mechanical arm is impressive. They were fooling people through the use of very clever engineering.
The amount of historical figure name dropping in this entire story is so amazing to me hahaha
Right?! Maria Theresa of Austria, Paul of Russia, Napoleon Bonaparte, Benjamin Franklin, Edgar Allan Poe…!!
@@lexigrimhaive It's so wild!
This just shows that almost all great people of the past were fans of chess.
@@SRMS26especially leaders of armies!
“His son, Silly-ass...”
I’m dead.
I'm so glad someone else noticed! Cheers!
timestamp pleaseee
@@tongs1073 17:36 Enjoy
@Graham Murphy that video is cheap sensationalism lol
@Graham Murphy this video says something at least. The other one is the whole time hinting a reveal of the way the turk worked, to then just take us to the house of an old dude that is supposedly an eminence in illusions and that knows how it functioned. Just to have him tell us he won't reveal shit. LOL. Not even conjectures, anything. At least this one contains the version of someone related to an owner.
I love how even though it was a hoax, it was super significant, even inspiring the first computer.
I mean Jesus was a bigger hoax and also significant
@@vlaandhael here we go with this shit again
@@vlaandhael ah shit here we go again
@@vlaandhael get educated
that's alwayshow it goes, most of things are inspired by fiction logically
“And like many depressed men, he turned to drink. He died from alcohol poisoning during the voyage” This man couldn’t even wait to get home, he must have been drinking by the literal bucket load
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at that time most people had to drink alchohol (mostly beer) on ships because it was much cleaner than the little "fresh" water they had on board.
@@Puppies03b3eleyyMichaelJackson wasn’t just ships just pretty much in general it was much safer to drink beer
@Forever Changed Alcohol withdrawal is the worst experience i have ever had in my life. The symptoms literally feel like you're dying, no exaggeration. Landed me in the hospital once, then I worked out the 2nd one on my own
@Forever Changed Same situation, im getting out of the habit slowly, I am still physically and mentally strong but its overtaking my ability to do my duties sober and efficiently.
I was told by a pharmacist who worked at the VA for several years (before going to the private sector) that standard treatment for alcoholics was to slowly diminish the amount of liquor they would consume.
Because if the patient was cut off completely (going cold turkey) the strain on the patient's organism would be so great it would kill them.
Just in case u are wondering, the robot in the thumbnail is from a film called Hugo, it’s about this kid who builds a robot in a train station.
Which was based on the original book "The Invention of Hugo Cabret" by Brian Selznick.
The book is _far, far_ better the movie, you really should read it.
@@braelinmichelus which in turn, is oddly similar to Alita Battle Angel
@@eatonkuntz Which in turn was based on Battle Angel Alita (a.k.a., Gunnm)
Thank you!! 🎉
“How an unstoppable 200 year old robot fooled the world”
*You mean Queen Elizabeth II?*
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Very interesting story. One correction: Maria Tereza was, if I remember correctly, empress of Austria and queen of Hungary and Croatia, not Bulgaria (which was in that period a province of the Ottoman Empire)
Yes you're right - Bulgaria was meant to be Croatia here, I'm sorry for the oversight. Thanks for pointing that out :)
OMG UR SMART
@John Nelson who would bother lol
@@Thoughty2 how can you forget Croatia. I LIVE HERE. We are the best!
Bulgarians getting triggered rn.
This machine met to many historical figures you’d swear he was in a time travel information.
Lol
Did you have a stroke whike typing or some ish?
uhh am I having a stroke
This almost made sense
I kept feeling like I was getting it then I didn’t
I’m stupid:
“This machine met so many historical figures you’d swear he was in a time travel movie.”
Great video - got a lot more insights about this story that i did not know before including the link with Sherlock Holmes. Thanks very much. Cheers, K
Yooo verified with 7 likes
Also you are the reason my brother keeps beating at chess
Honestly, I can't wait to be verified. It's gonna be hard, but once I make enough content and become popular enough, It's probably gonna happen.
This is unbelievable
Yes
Fascinating story. I can’t believe that I never heard of the “Turk” before, but am thankful for knowing it’s story now.
Same, for an automaton who defeated many well known people it doesn't seem well known
@@dawey8897 , exactly. It's terrifying!
Probably showing my age but I read about this 50+ years ago in the How & Why Wonder Book Robots and Electronic Brains
Just wait until we find out that Queen Elizabeth is a robot too
Ha exactly
in 2050: The 120 Year Old Robot That Eliminated Europe
Sounds like Dr Who
The big reveal will be when we find out who ISN'T a robot.
Everyone get this man a meme
I still find it interesting how a machine of that time could move a arm and a hand acurate enough to move chess pieces.
It may have been an illusion that the Mechanical Turk possessed any true AI, but the engineering required to build such an automaton is truly impressive.
This entire concept honestly sounds like an SCP.
Ah yes, artificial intelligence must be anomalous. Kill it with fire!
@@smolglitch containment first, I am sure it's in some anomalous artifact storage site with a few D class for company.
You mean SCP-1875
Slap some evil sentience on it and it will be a full-fledged SCP
SCP-1875 is a Euclid class object and it was was a chess robot that was built by a Russian chess champion in 1875 but parts of the machine were built by by his then missing twin daughters with the chess pieces being made from their bones and when the SCP Foundation took it back to the foundation the machine would have later take over the wireless connection by corrupting files, changing reports, deleting files, and finally sending a disturbing picture of two twin girls with black hallow eyes
I like the title of "french ambassador" better than "American who liked parties and hookers" even though it's like the same thing.
But he was married though. But your right about the parties only if the're in Boston and involve tea.
@@WaterVolt1917 well I mean you know what snuff boxes were right? most of the forefathers were using a bit of nose candy. also come on, those rebellious town hall meetings where they all worked to set up a new never tried before government, and never really tried since, maybe it's cause I'm lame, but I'd fucking call that one hell of a party that I wish I could have partaken in.
also highly suggest you google image search snuff boxes, god I hope I'm spelling snuff right. those things are gorgeous.
they really had some serious craftsmen back in the day.
@@caesertullo1824 I never said he didn't snort some lines I'm just saying I'd be surprised if he were to ever have some fun with hookers. I mean he was a Christian man after all.
@@dr.floridaman4805 Ever heard of lust?
If that's really the case then why does it allow hookers? Seems a little sus.
Fraud or not, this is still insanely impressive.
17:35 "With the automaton destroyed, Mitchell's son: Silas-"
TH-cam automated captions: *Silly ass*
That's what he called him. And he called Edgar Allen poe, egdar
I loled
I think the most amazing thing about this is that Kasparov was able to detect unusual behaviour from Deep Blue based on one move in the endgame.
I love how Thoughty2 frequently uploads this year!
Thoughty is securing the bag 💰💰
Ikr
I like your howl pfp
VITTXRIO same
@Graham Murphy That's also what Wikipedia says.
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
Huh. I wonder if the Turk was the inspiration for The Wizard.
@@ShinSeikiEvan I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibility. The answer is probably on the internet somewhere.
This Story Deserves a Movie for *Real*
The Turk: Behold! I was superior to any human.
Arnold: You won't be back.
Agreed. Thought the same.
“All the famous people in history knew each other “
All the famous people of modern time know each other
@@letsbehonest4221 we all know all the famous people. But you are right ^^
Michael jackson knew Abraham Lincoln
All the famous people if modern time give plane rides to their private islands :^)
@@omikron6218 to one specific private island owned by a man that did not kill himself*
"With the automaton destroyed, Mitchel's son, *Silly Ass*..."
As someone with a friend called Silas, It's amazing I don't recall anyone ever calling him that in highschool. Also surprising you went and called the guy that here. Did he wrong you?
Lol, I did a double take when I heard that, then a second later he showed his name. A calculated move, I'm sure...
He also says "Eggdar Allen Poe."
Talk about taking it personally on behalf of someone else.
Dude, I just want to thank you for being one of the only channels that isn’t politically charged, self centered, a rip off, reactionary, or any of the other bullshit genres that makes up 99% of TH-cam. THIS is the type of content I come to TH-cam for. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
So true, totally agree with you 100%, almost impossible to find interesting content
Try out MrBallen. He does supernatural stuff but majority does real murder mysterys strange occurances and stuff along those lines
I second that statement.
@@sharonking574
Yes.
@@ClingyCrab yes
I didnt expect they were doing it for money LMAO, if some dude came up to me and was like "Wanna prank Napoleon?" Id say "Do I?!?! IS THE SKY BLUE MY SIR???"
“There was another common reaction people had to the turk-“
*Air force ad plays*
Potentially lol
Same happened to me lol
TH-cam's getting a little too comfortable with double-ads.
Omg no 😂
I got energizer
The chess player in The Turk who faced Napoleon must have been like: THIS IS MY CHANCE.
*maniacle laughter*
How is that not ok, it's a hypothetical joke about a man from ages ago??? Wtf TH-cam
What?
“Napoleon Bonaparte”
Plays British Grenadiers
@kakyoin the milf hunter He is you but with more quality
Should have the onion song
The gift of hindsight being what it is, I figured a human was involved somehow from the start, but what a fascinating story, presented flawlessly by you as always.
Keep up the great work! You have an uncanny ability to entertain AND inform!!
I love how the Habsburg's chin has become an inside joke of this channel
A chin like a SLEDGHAMMER !!!
I have a chin like that. It sucks...
The Habsburg jaw is well known outside this channel.
The Dutchess was spared that chin, so she made up for it with a double-chin later on in life... Thoughty2 says.... ha ha ha...
@@mitaskeledzija6269 Same, and I have the thumbs too!
Actually, even though it was a hoax, the Turk must have had some pretty smart mechanics inside of it to convincingly reproduce the movements of the chess master inside, and for him to be able to unerringly follow his opponent's moves.
It's always a bit of a give-away, though, when a machine loses its temper.
There was another automaton that could write pre-programmed texts - and it wasn't a hoax. It was a mechanical marvel of its time.
yeah which impressed me the most
IDK. A mechanical counter and an arm-sweep mechanism wouldn't be impossible to implement.
@@swiftfox3461 Clearly, it _wasn't_ impossible. Some mechanical inventor did it 200 years ago, at a time when many other fantastic automata were made - able to write a sentence, or the silver swan (Bowes museum) that swallows a fish. But my point was, that many people feel that there was nothing wonderful about it because there was a human chess player inside - so there was nothing clever about it. It was, nonetheless, a feat of design and fine mechanics. Fine mechanics goes back further than that, of course - but that doesn't mean it wasn't an admirable feat of ingenuity.
Clocks are fine mechanical contrivances, and they have existed for quite a while, and the Antikythera mechanism has taught us that some technicians had detailed mechanical knowledge, even BC. But gearwheels were cut by hand, we believe, with a chisel. Try that some time. Just make a pair of meshing gearwheels without the aid of anything other than hand tools, and see if you don't think that fine mechanics without the advantage of machine tools is not "pretty smart mechanics".
@@DownhillAllTheWay heal yourself bro
Chess playing pianist here. It's still known as Maelzel's Metronome and if you've ever wondered why at the beginning of some pieces have the indication MM: crotchet = 88, now you know what the MM stands for.
Edgar Allen poe pops up a lot more than I ever thought he would, I always knew of him as just a writer, but he did much more
There’s actually a short story this inspired called “The Automata,” about a similar machine, that also was an illusion. It’s an interesting story actually, with a mystery element involved.
Makes me think of wizard of oz
So, you're telling me that Sherlock Holmes was essentially created by some 250 year old simp with a wrench and a chess board?
wellcyes but atually no, it was the cause not the reason for its creation, directly anyways what do I know
Why sherlock holmes?
@@AbdulWahab-cy2wc watch the video
Absolutely. Vittxrio. My only concern is I hope he keeps the pace when COVID is over. 🤔
I may be wrong, but the chess playing automaton burning alive may be the inspiration for "The Invention of Hugo Cabret"
"I like to be called by my goth name... Night Pain."
-Edgar Allan Poe
Oh god
Is this a direct quote from Poe?
If so, from where?
@@rickjames7253 South Park season 17 episode 4.
@@Hardrockkiller777 lol 🤣 fuckin southpark. I love tht show
I love the goth kids episodes xD
"Frankenstein" the First science fiction? What about Cyrano de Bergerac "Comical History of the States and Empires of the Moon" from mid 1650?
There was also a novel written by a Roman author that was... basically Hitchhiker's Guide. I think it was called "The Most True Story" or something and the first line was "This story is all fake."
Even Wikipedia doesn't think it was the first sci-fi novel.
@@gagesherman8826 Lucian's "True History"?
@@jacobfahmy5724 science fiction is a category of non fiction you emoji spamming 4head
@@narrahian9713 Are you kidding? It’s literally in the name. Science fiction is fiction.
BEST ONE EVER!!!!! Wow, but you can tell a story! My goal is to be a roving storyteller as I hit my late 60s. Youn are my inspiration!
Right?!? Amazing storytelling
You're at the perfect age for storytelling :)
Lindy Beige is GREATER then this litle kid
@@kukulroukul4698 little kid? Your opinion became invalid after the patronising comment.
Imagine fucking around with one of the world's most ambitious and ruthless conquerors with a fake chess machine.
Why was the robot arrested?
He was charged with battery.
🙁
this is giving off major dad vibes
I am totally going to tell that one to my son. He will seriously love it! 😂😂
Ha! You did the funny!
The cooking robot was charged with a salt AND battery 🥁
Turk: Can I play white?
Napoleon: Hmm, can I be this time?
Turk: REEEE LET ME BE WHITE I WANT TO BE WHITE!!!!!!
Lol
@Graham Murphy okay, how are a series of gears able to calculate moves that are able to match the best players at the time?
@@sumvs5992 it’s much more complicated than a couple of gears
It's a woman
@@Sandwich13455 hey Siri. Find me a big. Beautiful. WOMAN
finally we have found him, history's biggest simp
A very smart simp
@@Gambler4067 a simp nonetheless
Wasn't Maria Theresa a... I don't know, lunatic?
Pretty sure this guy was compensated well for entertaining the court.
Scholars have found that he sent hundreds of dollars to Belle Delphine.
Amazing video as always! Just a tiny correction, Maria Theresa was a Queen of Hungary and Bohemia. Bulgaria was still fighting for independance of the Ottoman Empire during her rule.
“There was another reaction people had to the Turk- RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!!”
Nice one man XD
I imagined someone saying that, then being raided by vikings.
Vikings with guns.
*Gun vikings*
@@Burn_Angel
Ooo joajajis
I know what I'm going to draw today.
We're doomed.
I got AFK Arena, the new Raid shadow legends
I saw a movie where the "Turk" actually was a clear system of gears and levers and was controlled by a midget that was hidden inside the box at the bottom.
whats it called
@@fernandojuarez4499 - sorry that was a translated - dubbed over from some other language movie from way back in the 70 - 80`s. I think it was German made, I could be wrong.
@@masteryoda2918 For some reason I thought you were referring to that one episode of Doctor Who lol
This robot may be able to beat me in chess.
But I’d like to see how it fares against my sledgehammer.
Garry Kasparov after losing to Deep Blue
This isn't a joke, he started carrying a crowbar to chess matches from then on for explicitly that purpose
@@agisuru We started learning about Garry Kasparov in our degree studies recently. Didn't took long for his name to show up here.
It's all fun and games till the automaton catches the sledgehammer with its hand and starts laughing mechanically.
@@Geheimnis-c2e HAAAANS. GET ZE FLAMMENWERFER
Thats actually impressive. Would be nice if someone could make a replicate of it.
Someone did. 21:34
What a great story, thanks for sharing.
Go back to Marrocos Islam skum
Ninja Wizard lol what
What a great share, thanks for story
@@ninjawizard7021 What has he done to you? Why are you saying that to him if he literally hasn't done anything wrong?
@@CasualArthur maybe he is Taliban? You dont know that
This is, by far, among the most interesting videos I've lately seen. We will really have to work out if many the information that was said to be true is true indeed. But again is undeniably, a fantastic video. Thank you, keep on!!!
When faced of a machine that could think for itself...
They called bullshit...
Had me laughing 🤣
Omg me too
Me too!
"Mitchell's son, 'Silly ass.'" Lol
Why did everyone in history meet or know each other 😲
Way fewer people alive
Just like all the super rich famous people of today know each other .
Birds of a feather stick together
The population was a tenth if that of today's and the ruling elite often didn't intermingle with the general public
@@basedmod2139 just like todays famous people they dont mix with the public
Much fewer people and a hell of a lot less famous people.
the ultimate "he had us in the first half, not gonna lie"
An amazing story made to be incredibly enjoyable and entertaining only for it being masterfully narrated.
You could definitely be a professional narrator for historical documentaries and such.
I believe he already is...
Every time you say "Egdar" instead of Edgar i wanna stuff myself into a wooden chess robot
If he was "a KNOWN member of the Illuminati" why then would it hold ANY appeal for the Conspiracy theorist??
I love the idea of Poe being so upset at this illusion being sold as a real robot that he publishes a whole paper on it and he finally thinks it's out of his life and later his physician is like "yo edgar, look at what I just bought!"
About Napoleon: "A quick thinker. Capable of turning any situation to his advantage".
Waterloo: Am I a joke to you?
No one compares to Napoleons victories in history lmao
Dschinghis Khan the man who lost a battle cause his ass hurt
Actually it’s believe Napoleon wasn’t actually able to lead his men at Waterloo as he had fallen ill the night prior
He won Waterloo but didn’t bring nails to disable enemy artillery. They ended up getting turned on him
I knew almost everything in this video and still enjoyed watching... that's the power of great storytelling.
11:07 “There was another common reaction people had to the Turk” LET’S PLAY RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!
😂 The unwanted Ad had impeccable timing.
I got "unemployment is skyrocketing" 😂
@@goatz4u I got Adblock Plus.
Could be worse, some welsh git ranting about the funeral industry
This would be one of those things to go back in time and rescue someday just before it was destroyed. Wouldn't change the past, but it would be an incredible historical artifact.
Would change the past slightly if something wasn't left behind though, the chessboard was salvaged at least.
@@MarioMarioBW yeah but slightly....
The fire would be a good way to decieve the traveler from taking the turk
@@MarioMarioBW one would imagine that if we have the technology to time travel, we might also have the ability to scan and perfectly replicate things. So maybe the time traveller replicates it and leaves the copy
Maybe that's what happened, it was stolen by time traveler fire was distraction
I like how they included a pillow inside the compartment. You know, for naps.
In our language, which is also Kempelen's mother tongue, the inventor's name is correctly Kempelen Farkas. At that time, the names of the people entering the royal court were automatically changed to the German / Austrian name system, hence the "von". That man was a mechanical genius anyway, a separate video could be made of all his machines
Last time I was this early, the Neolithic Revolution was in its infancy.
Last time I was this early I had to beat a Neanderthal with a bone to take his ipad
@@lamowkachow4597 last time i was this early, i had to feed my dunkleosteus
@@heccinparagon6633 they aren't picky eaters, mine like cows for a treat
I thinks Kepler's 1608 book "Somnium" (Latin for "The Dream"), about a trip to the moon, is the first credited Science Fiction novel.
Programmers be like: *_Why solve a problem in 5 minutes when we can spend 5 hours automating it?_*
why solve 100 similar problems in 8 hours 20 minutes, when you can spend 5 hours automating them and never having to deal with it again?
Why waste 5 minutes everyday with a boring repetitive task, if I can put some extra effort in and not have to deal with it ever again?
(Also automating things is fun, doing repetitive mindless tasks is not ....)
Programmers be triggered by this joke.
@@TheJunky228 because maybe you only need to do it once? why spend 5 hours automating something youll use once?
@@justinc2633 Because you never know when you will need it again, and at that time, you will be thankfull
So a random European guy in the 1700s indirectly created the computer, predicted mass paranoia on machines taking over jobs, and inspired Sherlock Holmes, just to impress a girl
“There was another common reaction people had to the turk-“
-hemorrhoid ad plays
Do you have hemorrhoids?
@@damionkibler3493 Yeah, but how the Hell does my phone know that? I swear it's listening to me while I'm taking a dump.
You should watch the movie social dilemma
The fear of automation is baselessly founded. As a person who lost his job twice to robotic automation, I was inspired to return to school and now I am on my way towards my registered nursing degree. In most first world countries, this is an assisted process.
Key word being "Most." Not so here in the states, as far as I know. My countrymen need to realize that bringing back factories won't bring back their jobs, because why would a company pay a person to stand there and weld the same exact line on car after car when they can have a machine do it for zero pay and with greater precision than even the steadiest human welder?
Sigh
@@masonsykes2240 well they wouldn't unless they are forced to , wouldn't surprise me that much that they are forced to hire and pay people as if they didn't have those machines only keeping the efficiency bonus of AI and machines , but most probably governments will go the ubi route instead if they want to keep their heads anyway.
Id rather spend my life pretending to be a robot than as a nurse tho
This is what I tell a lot of people who get upset over new technology 'taking their jobs'. It may take the ONE SPECIFIC JOB, but it also generates more (think of programmers, engineers, technicians, who have to work on/with these robots to make them perform properly). Most often the jobs are generated in other fields, but I look at it more as a 'shifting' of jobs then a deletion. If you get yourself retrained (and aren't a lazy ass falling into the competency trap that's brought down whole companies) you can switch over to one of those shifted or created jobs.
Love this, and knowing Poe doggedly debunked him was icing on the cake.
This is one of the best and most comprehensive docs on the Mechanical Turk I've ever seen. Thanks, you did it really well.
title as of AD2020: How a 250-Year-Old Robot Fooled the World
@BrazilianFlow It's because this channel is known for changing the Titles of his videos constantly.
People should comment every single change of name here, complete with timestamps, if they want.
he changed it to 200 instead of 250.... lol
"Thats gonna give me nightmares" LOL you have great humor. I read about the chess playing Turk when i was a boy, in Readers Digest i think, even then they said it had a lot of empty space in the cabinet where a small chess player could sit. Still i thought at the time, how many small chess grand masters are there? Your research is very thorough and informative, and very funny, like the robot thinking 'please leave me alone', i think AI will actually reach that stage, where it will no longer want, or need, humans. Now THAT is a nightmare :D
"But there was another reaction people had to the turk--"
*Deodorant ad*
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TH-cam ... only you could make me spray morning coffee through my nose at mid-afternoon.
Oof...
I got GCU
That's messed up 💀
Both Dupin and Sherlock Holmes were inspired by a REAL LIFE super sleuth named Eugene Francois Vidocq who lived in the 18th century.
This story is amazing, it's a sideline to a best-of in eighteenth and ninteenth century historical figures and situations, while also representing values and innovations of the time.
Prediction before i see the answer to how the turk actually worked in this video:
1. Either it was all a trick and a chess pro was controling its moves somehow.
2. Or the chessboards all 64 tiles were pressureplates, and all chess pieces had diffrent weight, depending on their type and color. And depending on how the pieces were all placed on the chessboard it would act as diffrent combinations (similar to how a combination lock on a safe can trigger it to unlock, only this would be million times more complex to build) and depending on what combination the pieces are in that would "unlock" a very specific counter move by the turk.
I am not very knowledgeable in mechanics so i dont know if would be realistic or not to build this, but as for now this will be my prediction. I really hope it's revealed in the end how it was done! :P
My prediction is, since the turk is always white, it might be 'programmed' to do an opening and predicted the next moves just like some opening traps. But of course thats impossible that time. So the only answer to his undefeated record is a human controlling it.
So, You decided to comment before watching the video to show off your amazing thought process of the outcome? OK. And if this was the late 17 early 1800s, Would your prediction be the same? Just watch like everyone else then give your feedback rather than being pedantic for likes lol
@@danimayb It's called having fun you party pooper. And i never do things for likes. And it's called projection when you judge others based on your own personality. So you must've commented that for likes.
This reminds me of the episode of Flapjack where the villain has a whole bunch of “automated machines” and robots that are all just secretly run by orphan children
Quick fact correction: Maria Theresa was not the queen of Bulgaria. Bulgaria was under Othoman rule/slavery/colonization at that time and didn’t have kings or queens.