Chat tries to convince Northernlion he has ADHD
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- "yeah but i watch movies"
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Game: Smilemo
Twitch: twitch.tv/northernlion
TH-cam: / @northernlion
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Stream date: 12-30-2022
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I lost it when someone said watching a movie is hyperfocusing on a movie.
They must’ve been trolling, cuz that was so good
My favorite twitch chat bit, gaslight the streamer about their health
My friends without adult onset ADHD be like “Just pick a Halloween costume”
My friends without adult onset ADHD be like "stop shitting your pants for no reason" like bro I literally can't focus long enough to walk to the bathroom
My friends without adult onset ADHD be like "Just breathe and stop passing out bro" I CANT DECIDE WHICH AIR MOLECULE I WANT TO CONSUME
my friends without adult ADHD be like "Picking a Halloween costume is literally so hard"
My friends without adult onset ADHD be like "oh, yes, I'll have the house red, thank you"
my friends without adult adhd be like "what do you mean you feel like you're gonna pass out from dehydration just go get a cup of water"
the bit was worth it but he wasn’t dedicating enough brain power to the game to realize that trail of coins was leading directly onto the spike
I don't know what your diagnosis is but the prescription is touching grass is an absolute banger of a line
That's Clint "I'll start streaming more regularly" Stevens, that's quality.
Some people seem to have forgotten what the "A" in ADHD stands for. The whole disorder is characterized by an inability to deliberately direct your attention. Either you can't focus on the thing you want to focus on, or you're hyperfocused and can't tear yourself away even when you want/need to. Most people experience some of both from time to time, but unless you're constantly struggling with it, there's no way you have ADHD.
Night owls got caught in heavy friendly fire there at the end. I'm sorry i work best between the hours of 10pm and 5am :(
NTA
i cannot sleep any sooner than 2:30 AM i feel like im wasting time if i sleep any sooner than that
working night shift makes u not a real person to most eyes, at least in my experience
I'll give every swing/grave shift type of person sloppy toppy if you would please come staff those schedules at my workplace fr
As someone who’s worked in multiple kitchens the washed spatula mentality is totally delusional. If you think whoever’s cooking your food is using a separate spatula to cook and plate you might never eat out again lol
"You know that thing that everyone thinks they have but some people actually have? Yeah, my child has it, I asked them."
Glad we have so many psychiatrists online giving away free diagnoses; warms my heart to see healthcare heading in the right direction!
Tell me you watched Sherlock without telling me you watched Sherlock.
Uhh im pretty sure you have ADHD or something. what does sherlock have to with anything. you just got diagnosed.
NLs house is keeping the Chocolate Egg business in healthy margins
Having watched this, I can confirm he is not at all ADHD.
Im tired as hell so who knows if im makin sense Ive got ADHD, I work with people with ADHD in an organisation but the people in the beginning are likely just complaining because thats what twitter is for, I dont doubt they got ADHD but its really not that big of a deal halloween is of all things, costumes give me social anxiety but its not like its like the thoughes day of the year.
Second, ADHD or Autism is a spectrum and it is large, it seems like Ryan doesnt know much about it and its fine not to but the chat also straight up gaslighting him isnt helping lmao. He fully could have ADHD but as people that peer into his routine parasocially for like 4 hours we arent qualified plus, his life is FINE he is doing GREAT even if he has it its not affecting his life in a serious manner, getting diagnosed is often a long and hard process that he has 0 benefit from the way he says it.
...well that was a lot idk maybe its the people just misdiagnosing him of off freaking watching a movie that did it for me lol.
Well anyway, unhinged rant aside, Happy New year my guys especially you Library!
@@chase-warwick yeh thats pretty correct but medication is definitely not always the answer or signifier like many people think, not saying you do but its a bit of a misconception, ive got clinically diagnosed anxiety and depression however I am not in need of medication, you feel, not saying meds are bad, but they arent for everyone :)
Although I will say there are a lot people that dont look for help but should but dont because of things like imposter sindrome or thinking everyone must be going through it so i should just suck it up or feeling undeserving, so yeh mental health and disorders/disability are tricky rope to walk.
Anyway just happy someone seems to understand it a bit :)
@@chase-warwick true, but people who succumb to stress over long periods as opposed to their co-worker who's able to regularly recharge might be facing additional stressors due to an undiagnosed mental condition and they just assume it's the same for everyone. These things can have life-altering consequences but the effects can be mitigated by knowing you have it early so that you can learn to structure your day-to-day life and forgive yourself for not having the same mental resources as everyone else. Which is another thing: Not all people with conditions need medication. That's only really when it's absolutely necessary. For most the knowledge that you have it is enough to navigate around it, and perhaps knowing a few coping strategies to get by.
@@chase-warwick "looking for help" and "affecting your life" are very different. It's really easy to be significantly negatively affected by a condition without realising it isn't the norm or can be helped
Maybe he’s just a little executive dysfunction coded.
"is the new path of exile patch bad? are people coming into this stream pre-tilted?" lmao
I have great focus!
Says the man with a severe glancing problem
I just caught a damn stray with that 4am comment.
He did almost die though... And chat is just making fun of it. People have died of less and him not getting the antibiotics just pisses me off to no end. What the fuck.
OMG He does
1:36 I did that with blue waffle and unlocked a fear
I do use 2 spatulas. I guess it's not so bad if the underside of the meat has really cooked because then at least the spatula shouldn't touch the raw part, but i like to play it safe too.
btw no shade on anyone, it does cost me extra time doing dishes which is a downside
You know you have adhd if you start fearing your own executive dysfunction, feel shame around and stop doing things with or for people because you might disappoint them eventhough you really dont want to but literally cant promise it
I've never seen a worse color palette for a game before lmao
I've never heard a worse soundtrack either
Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in and say I've got adhd and wasn't able to get a costume together 2 years ina row lol, I've definitely got choice paralysis or something and it takes up a decent portion of my time every October stressing about it. Not enough of a problem to cry about but why not draft up a tweet yk? Also Happy New Years everybody
Generally it's people who claim to speak for "the community" at large, or try to turn it into identity politics, that get on others' nerves.
@@Enuchful its with a lot of things that people want the status of something, not the thing itself. It happens with disorders like ADHD and autism, but I also know a lot of people that want to be known as DJs but dont actually wanna properly DJ, or people that wanna be known as psychedelic crusaders when they only tripped like twice.
@@thaDjMauz Problem with that is that it's an overused outsider perspective. Most people who have some neurodivergent condition like ADHD or autism or a diagnosed mental illness like anxiety or depression aren't trying to make it "a thing" or wear it like a badge but they do want to talk about their unique challenges, both when people without those conditions would be oblivious to them or when a piece of media has a good or bad portrayal of it. It is genuinely helpful to talk about instances where these things manifest and using specific situations that would be more relatable to people without those conditions - like picking a halloween costume - helps bridge the understanding. But when they do bring those issues up they're often accused of "trying to be special" for no reason and the conversation gets shut down. In my country we call it The Law of Jante and essentially is the embodiment of the collective impulse to tell anyone slightly diverging from the norm to keep their heads down and shut up. It's using the accusation of narcissism to kill any attempts at empathy.
@@gwen9939 I think where I live the pendulum has swung the other way where people seem to almost need a disability label to consider themselves a person, and most of them are not official. And I get it, because it gets you extra sympathy, extra license and makes you more interesting in your circles (like ADHD being a quirk, not a disability) that are all hyper-accepting. What I see as an issue there is that when your problem becomes your identity, sollutions become personal attacks. I have too many people around me, friend groups, that just get together to complain about their shit never actually helping themselves or eachother. We metaphorically call it "my cat is more dead than yours".
The way I see it is that we need to be realistic about different neurotypes and together strive for the best in each situation, which is not putting people down for being different or not being different, and allowing people to hopefully find ways of life in which their "worst" sides are not emphasized and their best sides are.
@@thaDjMauz The problem with your line of thinking is that neurodivergent people don't see their differences from neurotypicals as their "worst" side. That's a purely neurotypical perspective. My diagnoses of ADHD and autism doesn't make me worse than you. Personally I think it actually makes me more interesting, intelligent, and fun to be around than most people I've met (this is only my opinion and not a fact. I just have a deep and healthy love of my own existence developed after years of self-hatred). Obviously I don't go around acting superior or telling people I feel this way as I'm not an arrogant person.
I am better off for allowing my true personality to be emphasized by surrounding myself with accepting and loving friends and family. Some aspects of that personality are directly influenced by my neurodivergent traits and there's no reason to bother hiding that.
happy new year brother
Happy new year to you too
Happy new year to you two too
Happy new year to you fine gentlemen
stay pegged everyone
I study psychology, if I *had* to diagnose him, and I wouldn't because its insane to diagnose someone over the internet, but if I was forced to at gunpoint, I'd say its way more likely he's autistic than has ADHD based on his dislike of change in plans
hes probably just a dude tho
my husband and best friend both have ADHD and constantly try to tell me to get tested and I just. I don't have it. I don't get why they think I do. I'm the person who has to keep the schedules and focus on chores getting done since my husband has it (it's bad, and he does alright when medicated, but insurance + pharmacies run out so he'll go without sometimes) like I think it's clear I don't have it, I just have normal human "can't get motivated" sometimes. Its irritating when people just want everyone diagnosed. I don't have Crohn's because I get diarrhea sometimes.
I'm kind of the other way around where I know too many people saying they have it when they never got tested, so if they keep going on about it I ask them to get tested because they are stereotyping it all the time.
@@thaDjMauz it's the stereotyping that really bothers me. I understand not being able to receive an official diagnosis. My partner wants to get officially diagnosed and maybe get medication because her symptoms are really impacting her daily life. But the only people in our area that diagnose ADHD don't take our insurance and the out of pocket for even one appointment is more than we can afford.
Like, I get it, an official diagnosis is sometimes a privilege that not everyone has access to but self diagnosing ADHD because you procrastinate sometimes? That's just harmful stereotyping, bro. Come on.
NL Vehemently denying he has ADHD, just to cope by describing my autism symptoms, saying he's normal, has me sweating... was i misdiagnosed? cuz I kinda used the diagnosis to put to rest a lot of insecurity and frustration I'd experienced...
NL def watches movies with the subtitles on
Chat has no idea what ADHD is, and it shows
they're all self diagnosed former honors students and it shows
I was diagnosed with Adhd like a decade ago, and I don't really know what it is tbh
@@enotsnavdier6867 same, I think its because it isnt one thing, its not a single pathology it just has similar "issues" if you are trying to function normally. And the science around it keeps changing; ADD used to be a thing, now its just a subtype of ADHD.
@Momo It also feels like it's super over-diagnosed in my admittedly limited experience. Like, every guy I was friends with as a kid had Adhd.
@@enotsnavdier6867 i guess it depends on your location. Where I am it is over-self-diagnosed but the actual real diagnosis is not super common
5:03 😂💀
13:30 Sigma
What in the heck is "adult onset ADHD"? lmao
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain the only "onset" involved is actually being diagnosed after flying under the radar as a kid/teen. Either way relying on anecdotes for diagnosing is just silly. ADHD is complicated and, much like autism, can come across very different in different people in any number of mundane situations.
I think people are misunderstanding the term 'adult ADHD' which is just 'adults with ADHD' or 'ADHD diagnosed in adulthood' for the idea of 'adult onset ADHD' which isn't a thing. ADHD brains are structurally different to non ADHD brains and is evident from birth or early childhood (can be distinguished in special brain scans), but some people don't become 'disabled' by their symptoms until later in life when pressures are too much for coping mechanisms and strategies (e.g. high school, university or the workplace) or their symptoms dismissed or labelled as something else (laziness, depression).
The term 'adult ADHD' primarily exists to form community as ADHD was misunderstood to be a childhood disorder for a long time, and most information until recently was made for the parents of ADHD children.
Just hearing people talk about trypophobia makes me feel icky, I got it bad
I have ADD. NL has some traits (loads of people do), but not close to enough of them, I feel.
Says his wife would be the one who has adhd because when she adds something to his to-do list, he gets distracted from the current task and does the new task...
I think everybody got lost in the sauce of this nonsense lol
point that he doesn’t procrastinate lol that’s not getting distracted that’s prioritizing his wife
As a high functioning Adhd household it is more about avoiding responsibility. My brother didnt finish hoghschool, i do not take care of myself but have my MBA and a career at 23, and my dad avoided both of us his whole life
Ex, my glasses are broken and 2 years expired, i do not have a doctor either
I'm waiting for psychiatrist opinion.
waiting for him to hear about adhd autism combo cuz thats me and its exactly how he described
like ok mr “i played isaac for way too many years” lion
they updated the DSM with a new disorder called bald syndrome cause of him, he's the first ever case
@@ten-hx2xi nL hyper focused on Isaac for 10 years
Everybody putting their own diagnosis on the egg in the comments section and here I am just vibing.
+2 +2
I want to live happy go lucky but my brain said nope. Let's make it difficult 🙂
2:19 cicington on NL? huh??????????
The shit hes saying about his sleep, the hyper focus, and the need for routine/ lack of routine throwing him off are unironically all indicators of ADHD/Autism spectrum lul. ADHD isn't an issue of being unable to focus at all, its the brain lacking the ability to focus on anything that doesn't produce short term rewards and dopamine release.
ADHD actually allows for increased hyperfocus, just on the wrong things.
The current best understanding is its a failure of dopamine regulation in the brain, causing a failure in the brain's long-term reward system. This is why ADHD and addiction have such high comorbidity. A healthy brain can understand that forgoing short term dopamine release can actually reward it in the long term. Think of animals that would eat unripe fruit unaware of the fact that the ripe fruit will be better in the future.
Even if someone with ADHD knows logically that doing things in the present is better their brain produces no dopamine and is averse to the task.
This is why routine and planning are the best aids for ADHD, structuring a person's life so that they can rely on their own planning rather than the brain's dopamine reward system.
i obviously cant diagnose NL but man, whenever i watch him im like "this dude almost definitely has ADHD"
You're both making so much sense
As a egghead w/ adhd I came to the comments for the person writing an essay so they can make sure they communicate all they mean to. Totally have never done this myself
As someone with ADHD this was why being part of this chat was so funny. Like obviously we don't know if he has ADHD, but half the shit he said to defend himself can be part of ADHD. It just kept going and going lol
isnt walking on ur tip toes also related to autism/adhd
What game?
The ADHD community. Lmfao. Person in thumbnail needs to get real.
nerd
As someone who has it, i dont believe he has it.
I do believe however, that he should really consider not just essentially saying "stop displaying the symptoms of your learning disability 4head" every time ADHD is brought up in any stream.
I feel like normally hes a little more self-aware as to when hes ignorant about something but the topic of ADHD just seems to be a self-recognitive blindspot for him or something.
I think misinformation about ADHD is a really common thing nowadays, most likely due people like the person on the tweet who attribute absolutely non-ADHD things to their ADHD, alongside people misdiagnosing/over diagnosing themselves, leading to a general confusion about what having ADHD is like. Not to mention the fact that ADHD is just a whole load of symptoms that everybody does at some level, but ADHD does at a level in which it is impacting their ability to function.
All of this makes it pretty difficult for someone who doesn't know someone with ADHD or have ADHD themselves to really understand the what ADHD looks like.
Also to add to this, is that ADHD has different ways of manifesting in different people, and even in different genders.
Plus some of the most common symptoms are also symptoms of other issues like autism or depression, making it even more difficult to know 100% what ADHD looks like or whether you have it or not.
Side note: If you (whomever is reading this) think you might have ADHD, I would recommend talking to a therapist or psychologist, preferably one that has experience working with ADHD. If you do choose to get therapy, go into it with an open mind, you may or may not have ADHD, and the majority of therapy is dealing with the symptoms that you are experiencing, regardless of what diagnosis you may or may not have.
After seeing him fail and then quit Dredge. He 100% has ADHD.
maybe this is dumb but you should add a tiny outro with an audio blip or something. listening to these like a podcast can make the endings kind of jarring
Finish this clip and then suddenly, "I'M NOT A PEE GUY, I'M NOT!"
Personally I fuckin hate intros/outros that don't change, they turn into negative ASMR after long enough
As an OneyPlays fan who binges comps constantly, the outro of "alma smego here telling yall to subscribe" makes me wanna defenstrate my brain
@@idfrigginkman I agree, nothing crazy, more like you'd hear on a podcast or something just a little satisfying noise. I know one of the jerma editors just throws like the 1 second music cue at the end
Please don't listen to this guy
If you want a podcast why not just watch full NL vods?
This dude has more than 2000 Isaac videos. He's got 700 Super Auto Pets videos in about two years. He absolutely hyperfocuses.
That's just called having a job.
@@CZEFrank compared to the average twitch viewer, having a job is hyperfocusing
Hyperfocus is acute, you dont hyperfocus over 5 years, you do it in one sitting.
I'll say this, i do not believe nneurotypicals can be streamers
Wait are adults trick or treating for halloween?
The kinds of people who self-diagnose ADHD on the internet are also the sort that trick or treat well into their 20s.
Halloween parties exist
say you never get invited to parties without saying you never get invited to parties
As someone who was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, way too many people say they have it but they are actually just lazy
its dangerous to say though because its pretty common for people with depression/anxiety etc to not think they have it 'bad enough' and that they're faking it (even if they have a diagnosis), so we should be careful about saying things like that because it can do a lot of harm.
but i do agree, i think changes in societal thinking can often be akin to releasing a rubber band (releasing the idea into public discourse), it goes up and down and eventually finds its resting place - public thinking goes back and forth between spectrums of extremes, and eventually (after decades) the right ideas take hold.
Same but I could 100% see NL having it lol we seem to attract each other
Turns out when you make a disease a spectrum, everybody falls on the spectrum somewhere. So everyone has ADHD, even just a little tiny bit.
Which is infuriating if you want a diagnosis to mean something but is super cool if you want to be a lazy piece of shit and blame it on "neurodivergency".
@@JD-wu5pf mans trying to gatekeep having a mental deficiency 😂😂😂
@@JD-wu5pf If your life improves from Adderrall. Than you have ADHD.
lol he absolutely does not have adhd
No, NL has autism, JERMA has adhd. I have both. Honestly wouldnt recommend
What game is this
smilemo
More garbo mental health takes from the definitely not neurotypical egg
I'm nauseous from just him describing it
god, this game looks nauseatingly annoying. I’m glad it was a one-off.
ok ngl this is my problem with mental illnesses. Like what difference does it really have if ryab or anyone has ADHD (if it's mild)? like it's not dangerous, he's a good lad, what's the fucking point lol. like i might have ocd or autism based on some things i've read over many years and stuff and dated a girl with autism and it really just makes no difference whatsoever. in the mild cases it's either just personality traits that i don't think anybody should give a fuck about whatsoever. this is literally twitter behavior leaking into society
@@chase-warwick alright, touché. It still sounds complicated and i admit I'm ignorant but i don't feel quite satisfied with the answer either. thanks anyways haha.
my point kinda relates to where my ex with high functioning autism would've gotten extra bullied if she'd gotten put in the special kids class in her primary in the UK and would've actually destroyed her mentally since they naturally got picked on a lot and she got recommended to be there even though her symptoms were only mild.
Sometimes I worry he’s going to get hatefully conservative, especially the talk about what time is objectively the best to go to bed, and the lack of empathy at sleep anxiety
Look... I am neither a psychiatrist, nor a medical professional of any kind... but this man is NOT neurotypical.
This is the guy that is known to have trouble relating to mental illness and most always avoids talking about those issues because of it. It's great that there isn't some huge stigma around mental health anymore but you need to recognize that not everyone has to have a label attached to them. He has stated that he doesn't feel particularly distressed from things like this. Obviously everyone feels some level of discomfort from the occasional mental misfirings but what makes something a disorder is that it deeply affects someone's life. Most people are just "normal"
@@ratherdarkcorner1541 Yah I don't disagree with anything you said!
To be medically diagnosed with a condition like adhd, one of the criteria is that it is causing a serious and notable disruption to your life, so if its not causing any problems NL has no reason to get checked out! I was mostly just making a goof :)
BUT, to speak from my own experience here, until I had learned a bit about adhd, I didn't even UNDERSTAND half of the ways it was making my life difficult and was the culprit the whole time. And the beginning of that education started when I saw people talking about their experiences of it online.
I say all this btw, fully in the knowledge that the online adhd community is annoying as hell sometimes lmao. And it's existence as an online trend is heavily fueled by social media algorithms, but.. all the self-diagnosing and self-labelling, it does come from a genuine place of people reaching out for community and support that they don't get irl. People just want to understand themselves, ya know?
Christ sorry this comment was long as hell
that's cool you think that it's also literally none of our business, and super rude to sit and armchair diagnose people
@@Senjamin Yah I agree! :) The comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek, but I explicitly didn't say he had a specific condition for this reason.
But also, saying someone isn't neurotypical isn't an insult or anything. I may as well have said "this man is NOT a pisces" lmao
*Editors note: to spare the brains of the whiny children babies, who prob still won’t do shit w/ it, i’ve simplified this:
This man does not have this.
Hyperfocus by itself does not = ADHD. The sort of hyperfocus it tends to be is hyperfixating on things that r ridiculously trivial or mundane at the cost of things like eating or sleeping etc. where u will even do it for 5-6 hrs straight w/out interruption.
It’s diagnosed based off observations that extend beyond microbehaviors, like big life stuff.
It should go w/out saying, but u actually can just stop reading whenever. If you think that u can never say ppl have this when u rn’t an expert, then there’s certainly no resp for u to rd all. So i’ll hide it down @ the bottom so that it doesn’t offend thine eyes.
In addition to the macrobehavior, u often struggle w/ frequent miscommunication & don’t have or can’t maintain meaningful relationships, u r socially unaware, u r easily intimidated by important tasks, & thus unable 2 hold jobs for that long. Often referred to as being lazy, among other things.
I get the impression that someone will see they hve a really bad prob w/ 1 or 2 things on the list, & go on to imagine having the other things in order to fulfill the idea they have it.
On an unrelated note: i'll believe ur time is valuable when u don't abuse in order 2 write out insults that fulfil no purpose at all. But do what u gotta do. I can't claim to know what ur going thru.
sorry or congratulations or whatever, but I'm not gonna read all that
@@laureloneiros1500 then don't? that's the beauty of the internet
Adderall prescription clearly working as intended
@@emprox1 Don't know what that means friend. But Happy New Year.
@@chase-warwick It's exhausting.
At 1st, social media did help w/ awareness. But it's overcorrected & every1 thinks they have everything, making it even less legitimate 4 med profs.
On another note, i think i've spotted them. The only time ppl get nasty w/ my comments is when i've hit a nerve.
That’s OCD with the scheduling bit. I had the same thing
Brother, a desire for routine is not OCD that's just part of being human. He has clearly stated that he feels no sort of serious distress from these kinds of things
ocd is obsessive compulsive disorder.
formed habits and teneency for organization aren't a disorder.. thats ignoring what "disorder" means.
this is a lexical problem - people use descriptions of extreme forms of behaviour to describe milder variants of those same behaviours thus making the term inapplicable to its original context.
this isn't the first time NL has made me really uncomfortable with his mental health takes, especially since as far as we know he's completely nuerotypical
Which takes made you uncomfortable?
I don't want to sound rude or presumptuous, but is 'neurotypical' supposed to have this slightly negative connotation behind it or it's just me
@@oacmd282 I mean nah dude it's just the word for someone who's not neurodivergent
This whole mental health thing has gotten out of hand. I was properly diagnosed with ADHD when I was a kid, I cope with it by working out, having a routine and just general discipline. I know people who do and don’t have ADHD who don’t do anything of these things and they wonder why they can’t get shit done. NL is just keepin it real.
@@19mduffy To be fair, you might not have adult ADHD. It doesn't stick into adulthood for some people.