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- Dr. Shabir Ally explains 24:30 and 24:60, which bracket (and provide context to) 24:31. 24:30 instructs men to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, which shows that the Quran is concerned with decency and modesty for men too. 24:60 tells older women there is no harm if they remove their outer garment, and this demonstrates there is a gradation in terms of dress and leeway for some parts of the body to be exposed.
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Subhan'Allah, I love these father and daughter conversations.... they are so honest, inspiring and realistic. I really appreciate how open they are with each other... not only for the benefit for the Ummah but because they speak directly to the hearts of those listening to them who are "teetering on the brink" of Islam. I am a revert since 2017 and am pretty much on my own on my journey in Islam... my chosen faith. Listening to these youtube videos ALWAYS bring me back to the wholesomeness of Islam, the realness of my faith and encourage me to continue to believe, continue to strive and continue to "keep on keeping on". Alhamdulillah
As always, an amazing session from Dr Shabir Ally. Thanks for talking about verse 60 of Surah An Nur, because this verse is often ignored in hijab related discussions
In this verse too it says don't display your adornment. But what's the adornment??
I'm not getting it
@@sherinham Here's the full commentary of Muhammad Asad on verse 31 of Surah An Nur. Read it, hopefully it'll help you understand:
And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and to be mindful of their chastity, and not to display their charms [in public] beyond what may [decently] be apparent thereof; hence, let them draw their head-coverings over their bosoms. And let them not display [more of] their charms to any but their husbands, or their fathers, or their husbands’ fathers, or their sons, or their husbands’ sons, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their womenfolk, or those whom they rightfully possess, or such male attendants as are beyond all sexual desire, or children that are as yet unaware of women’s nakedness; and let them not swing their legs [in walking] so as to draw attention to their hidden charms.
And [always], O you believers - all of you - turn unto God in repentance, so that you might attain to a happy state!
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* v.31 : My interpolation of the word “decently” reflects the interpretation of the phrase illā mā zahara minhā by several of the earliest Islamic scholars, and particularly by Al-Qiffāl (quoted by Rāzī), as “that which a human being may openly show in accordance with prevailing custom (al-‘ādah al-jāriyah).” Although the traditional exponents of Islamic Law have for centuries been inclined to restrict the definition of “what may [decently] be apparent” to a woman’s face, hands, and feet - and sometimes even less than that - we may safely assume that the meaning of illā mā zahara minhā is much wider, and that the deliberate vagueness of this phrase is meant to allow for all the time-bound changes that are necessary for man’s moral and social growth. The pivotal clause in the above injunction is the demand, addressed in identical terms to men as well as to women, to “lower their gaze and be mindful of their chastity”: and this determines the extent of what, at any given time, may legitimately - i.e., in consonance with the Qur’anic principles of social morality - be considered “decent” or “indecent” in a person’s outward appearance.
* The noun khimār (of which khumur is the plural) denotes the head-covering customarily used by Arabian women before and after the advent of Islam. According to most of the classical commentators, it was worn in pre-Islamic times more or less as an ornament and was let down loosely over the wearer’s back; and since, in accordance with the fashion prevalent at the time, the upper part of a woman’s tunic had a wide opening in the front, her breasts were left bare. Hence, the injunction to cover the bosom by means of a khimār (a term so familiar to the contemporaries of the Prophet) does not necessarily relate to the use of khimār as such but is, rather, meant to make it clear that a woman’s breasts are not included in the concept of “what may decently be apparent” of her body and should not, therefore, be displayed.
* I.e., very old men. The preceding phrase “those whom they rightfully possess” (lit., “whom their right hands possess”) denotes slaves; but see also note 78.
* Lit., “so that those of their charms which they keep hidden may become known.” The phrase yadribna bi-arfulihinna is idiomatically similar to the phrase daraba bi-yadayhi fī mishyatihi, “he swung his arms in walking” (quoted in this context in Tāj al-‘Arūs). and alludes to a deliberately provocative gait.
* The implication of this general call to repentance is that since “man has been created weak” (4:28), no one is ever free of faults and temptations - so much so that even the Prophet used to say, “Verily, I turn unto Him in repentance a hundred times every day” (Ibn Hanbal, Bukhārī, and Bayhaqī, all of them on the authority of ‘Abd Allāh ibn ‘Umar).
@@jubairahmed6386
Thank you brother I have read this before. But still have confusion what's the adornment ( charm) and the what's the hidden charm. I just want to know the exact meaning or word for it . If u are saying charm means breasts then what's the hidden charms between the legs ( as the verse says) Is it referring to women's genitals or buttocks? Because the verse says provocative gait
If Quran is referring this then it's so problematic and objectifying women Hope you can help🙏
The context clearly refers to Adornment as the shape of the breasts and cleavage
@@sherinham I'm not surprised your still confused. You should try a reliable credible sources.
The problem with Muhammad Asad if you dont know his book has ALOT of errors in terms of aqeedah due to this the muslim world league has banned its publication and printing and the Lajnah Al Daaimah wrote a fatwa saying it has fatal errors.
(ref check no 2190). Mo
The last few minutes clarifies about the ruling on covering of bosom as a guidance to the women, not hair. This helps. Thank you for this.
"Head covering is not mandatory." This is part of Dr. Shabir Ally's interpretation of 24:31 is incorrect . The Quran is a perfect revelation into the meaning of which only the purified can penetrate. The purified are the Mujtahid Imams who analysed and deduced which rulings applied to only a specific time and place, and which are universal. This is not done by considering their own personal interpretation, but rather weighing up all the evidences, material, opinions and actions of the Companions. The work of the Mujtahid Imams was amongst the greatest and gravest undertakings in the religion, and this was a responsibility they bore with God-fearingness and great caution.
Allah Most High says, ‘Ask the people of knowledge if you do not know’ [16:43] and the Prophet ﷺ said, ‘The Scholars are the inheritors of the Prophets’. The reality is that the Mujtahid Imams and their students were far too God-fearing to bring personal preferences into matters of the religion. Rather they deduced their rulings from clear proofs from the Quran, Sunna, sound principles, and then laid out their findings for others to analyse and refine. Anyone who studies such works will see how objective and brilliant such works are. A doctorate in Islamic studies do not make one Mujtahid who can research and give rulings.
@@Nulmay24 I was talking about rulings in Deen Islam based on The Qur'an.
You are correct in terms of Sectarian Sunni view on the issue, that's not my point of interest. I'm a Muslim not a Sunni or any kind of Sectarian.
@@Conscious_and_InspiredThey’re told to use their khimars to cover their chests, khimar is a head covering. The Quran could be just said to cover their chests plain and simple, yet Allah specified to use their head coverings obviously for a reason.
@@burrito2526 Because Allah does not want any hardship on them by adding an additional piece of clothe. He is just asking them to use the same in-use garment to cover over their opening of clothe.
I come from a culture where our women usually use a shawl or a chadar, for them they might just use the same to cover any exposing opening around their beauties. It's all about decency and modesty. System of Peace is not an Arab-confined social system which does not find common appearance of cults like Christianity, Zoroastrianism and Judaism. It's universal for all culture across the globe. Muhammad and his followers were using their own traditions and culture excluding the shirk part of it, the same should we do. My humble understanding. 🙂
We we should hand over the correct Qur'an-based knowledge of our Deen to our future generations, or else we will suffer the same demise as of Christianity and Judaism. Over the generations Allah's Sunnah (trend) remains unchangeable. Will we not pay heed?
Cheers! 🙂
Lowering the gaze does not have to be physically......controlling how you think also can be lowering the gaze. When you see someone or speak with them see a human not man or woman. Lowering the gaze physically can interfere with communications such as body language (ie: look in eyes and expression on face) can tell if someone means what they say.
I am close to 80, don't wear a headcover anymore (it is an outer covering is it not?), often wear an outer abaya and lower my gaze. Also, I'm just not interested in men at all. I'm married 35 years. No one is interested in me and I seldom go out. My husband would like me to wear a headcover, but I don't know why. It's obvious how old I am. I'm open to being convinced otherwise, but I have no intention of changing right now. To me Surah 24, Ayah 60 is a mercy from Allah, and I intend to take advantage of it, especially because of the hot climate I live in. If Allah has said something is permissible, no one can say it's not.
Yeah ur husband needs to be quiet headscarf is not mandatory for you
"Head covering is not mandatory." This is part of Dr. Shabir Ally's interpretation of 24:31 is incorrect . The Quran is a perfect revelation into the meaning of which only the purified can penetrate. The purified are the Mujtahid Imams who analysed and deduced which rulings applied to only a specific time and place, and which are universal. This is not done by considering their own personal interpretation, but rather weighing up all the evidences, material, opinions and actions of the Companions. The work of the Mujtahid Imams was amongst the greatest and gravest undertakings in the religion, and this was a responsibility they bore with God-fearingness and great caution.
Allah Most High says, ‘Ask the people of knowledge if you do not know’ [16:43] and the Prophet ﷺ said, ‘The Scholars are the inheritors of the Prophets’. The reality is that the Mujtahid Imams and their students were far too God-fearing to bring personal preferences into matters of the religion. Rather they deduced their rulings from clear proofs from the Quran, Sunna, sound principles, and then laid out their findings for others to analyse and refine. Anyone who studies such works will see how objective and brilliant such works are. A doctorate in Islamic studies do not make one Mujtahid who can research and give rulings.
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Brother, the head covering, like the housedress, is something a woman does not wear inside among her brothers, husband, sons, etc. It's something she puts on when she goes outside or when a non-mahram man comes into the house and may see her. So, the headcovering, for an older woman, is an outer garment, which may be dispensed with. I've researched this myself and no matter how I slice it, this is what I come up with. If I'm wrong, please let me know why. Thank you for bringing this up. It used to be rarely talked about, which is a shame and doesn't thank Allah for this consideration and common sense.
It would be fair if it was enough for both the women and the men to lower their gaze/work on self-control and cover their sexual parts, but forcing the women to cover themselves outside of their sexual parts, in order to avoid sexual provocation/abuse, when this rule doesn't apply to the men, is treating the women as primarily sexual objects, a huge problem with the Islamic mentality.
Men have no preserve modesty too!
Your perspective is rather pessimistic, rather the Quran acknowledges that societally most of the time when someone’s being assaulted, the victim is almost always a woman. In all societies today, whether Muslim or not, women are the ones more scared of being outside or receiving unwanted attention than men.
To sum up, does it mean women over childbearing age (=menopausal) can stop wearing headscarf and there’s no sin for them? Please clarify. Jazak Allah Khair.
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According to Surah Nur is to cover bossom. The original meaning of khimar is piece of cloth. Which is made to cover head for some people so Hadith concluded in such a way that it was automatically assumed it’s a head cover. Surah Ahzab came before surah Nur but put in a different order by Allah in Quran.. People have assumed the meaning of khimar according to there needs and control by commentators.
In Quran...... days mentioned 365 times as months 12 times...we can understand its cause ......but I'm not getting why Men and women are mentioned exactly 24 times only ....can anyone say the real reason behind it????
Wait...should that mean that Muslims should abandon the lunar calendar and instead follow the Gregorian 365 day calendar?
So why men wear shorts that is till there thigh when the aura length is till knees
I wonder 😃
But they go nuts seeing a strand of female hair out
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There is NO mandate to cover the hair...no matter how they try to mislead folks...Allah has the fnal say
Is there anyone who can DM Nouman Ali Khan to give his interpretation on this as he is very well versed in the Arabic dialect. Please please. I'm confused as this is the first time I'm hearing this that we dont need to cover our hair entirely!
This is the first time you are hearing this? Then I would suggest you to listen to Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl’s 4 part lecture on hijab and watch his recent video on Surah An Nur.
NAK in fact said that both Men and women used to wear the khimaar.
This makes khimaar compulsory for the men too :)
Nouman Ali Khan's logic of head covering being mandatory got refuted by Mufti Abu Layth
@@kalib2769 I dont accept the refutation by Abu layth, I wouldn't follow his fatawa
@@cooking1st There isn't a lot of difference between Mufti Abu Layth & Dr Shabir Ally's views. Both of them believe & preach almost exactly the same thing, the only difference is that Mufti Abu Layth laughs a lot and makes jokes while Dr Shabir Ally explains in a professional way.
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In case you don't know, CP is challenging Shabir Ally & Yasir Qadhi & Zakir Naik for a moderated debate on muslim channel... check CP channel
@@SuperJijja haha.. muzlim always claim victory
We are waiting for formal reply from your sheiks... most likely a refusal with funny reason, or they pretend not to know the challenge
I'm really shocked by this verse it's like older women can take off their outer garments because they are not sexually desirable!!!!
As a Muslim woman I feel like I'm completely sexualised by the Quran 😔
Taking off outer garments doesn’t mean they strip naked.
The thiyab was like a cloak, like a raincoat or jacket. When you go out in a rainy day you wear the raincoat, or the jacket if it's snowing outside; and when you come back inside you take off that coat. The used the thiyab like that
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I'm not saying about being naked. Any way it is saying that women should cover if they are desirable for marriage and sex that's what the verse says and if you are not then don't cover
And I'm not only saying this verse but also the verse 24 : 31,this verse indicates women's breasts, legs and even private part as a hidden adornment ( you will come to know when you clearly look at the verse)
Again Quran is objectifying and sexualizing women leading to rape culture, just think about it if women's body parts even genitals are considered as an adornment this would excite the perverts for sure right?! And they will take advantage of her but if we normalize women's body just as men's nothing will happen we can save many women from getting raped. I am a Muslim woman but i have lost my respect to my religion due to this
@@hindmalik7861
Thank you for your comment ☺
But the verse itself says that " Older women who have no desire for marriage "
I am not a scholar, but I interpret "older women who do not want to get marry" as those who no longer need to beautify themselves with outer garments.
Long time a go a local ustadz taught me that this verse means that older women can go out naked, but I intuitively refused to accept that.
@@Simarodra
I'm saying the same thing. This verse indicates - A women only beautify herself in order to attract other males or seeking attention when we clearly look at the verse we can see the hidden intention. This verse mean older women who are not desirable for marriage but what about other females THEY ALL ARE DESIRABLE FOR MARRIAGE SO THEY SHOULD COVER!!!!
The scholars explain like this too
I'm totally fed up now 😔
"Head covering is not mandatory." This is part of Dr. Shabir Ally's interpretation of 24:31 is incorrect . The Quran is a perfect revelation into the meaning of which only the purified can penetrate. The purified are the Mujtahid Imams who analysed and deduced which rulings applied to only a specific time and place, and which are universal. This is not done by considering their own personal interpretation, but rather weighing up all the evidences, material, opinions and actions of the Companions. The work of the Mujtahid Imams was amongst the greatest and gravest undertakings in the religion, and this was a responsibility they bore with God-fearingness and great caution.
Allah Most High says, ‘Ask the people of knowledge if you do not know’ [16:43] and the Prophet ﷺ said, ‘The Scholars are the inheritors of the Prophets’. The reality is that the Mujtahid Imams and their students were far too God-fearing to bring personal preferences into matters of the religion. Rather they deduced their rulings from clear proofs from the Quran, Sunna, sound principles, and then laid out their findings for others to analyse and refine. Anyone who studies such works will see how objective and brilliant such works are. A doctorate in Islamic studies do not make one Mujtahid who can research and give rulings.
Allah also says that there are clear and vague messages in the Quran and only They know the true meaning of it all. We can only try our best but we'll never truly know what it all means while we're still alive
@@avis_world Everything is made clear by the prophet pbuh to his companions. And those teachings have been made clear by Ibn Abbas, Ibn
Jarir, Other Great Scholars. May Allah be pleased with them. People like Shabir Ally suspect in its authenticity so as to turn things towards their convenience.
The whole setting is contradicting to the verses discussed here . However, This is not the correct interpretation , sadly. Please check Tafseer Ibn Katheer if you really want to know.
Dr Shabir did NOT explain the conditions of hijāb, the correct meaning of khimar, jilbab... This is why the ummah is confused !
What are you even saying?
Khimaar, jilbaab and siyyab or Thaub.
When each is worn. He is making things more confusing.
Looks like he has all intentions to prolong the series instead of clearing the confusion.
Can’t all be clarified in one or two episodes??
You can never trust the scholars.
Not at all, Dr. Shabir is just being honest explaining the verse of the Quran. You don’t need to be a sheikh, alim, imam or to have a phd degree in deen to understand the verse itself. Go read for yourself, It’s clearly saying: cover your chest not a head with hkhimar period. According the verse the older women may expose the chest, I suppose as well as the hands, legs (half part or what ever customs was back then) for the reasons that’s been mentioned.
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