Boonedox Landing Gear Kayak Cart Review (First Impressions)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Boonedox is a sponsor for the MAKBF Mid Atlantic Kayak Bass Fishing series, and I'd like to thank them in my own special way! A video for their awesome product!
Well I haven't had this for very long, but I can tell you I truly do enjoy having this product. It has made the loading launching portion of kayaking a breeze. This is a very sturdy product.
There are already videos on how to install it and they are very good, so no need for me to recreate that wheel. I hope this helps answer some questions you may have. If not post them in the comments.
Boonedox Landing Gear Kayak Cart on the Native Watercraft Slayer Propel 13 Hidden Oak.
Filmed with JVC Adixxion
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Nice job on the review - very thorough. I just got my 3rd kayak, but the 1st with the landing gear. I will not own another kayak without it. As you demonstrated it's much easier than any cart, and using this eliminates the need to roll the yak up on it's side to put in a scupper cart, or dragging the keel on the ramp, etc., resulting in much less damage to the hull over time. It's worth the $180 I paid.
Awesome thanks...was a bit long but needed to get all the points across
Good video, you gave me an idea for unloading to avoid the front of the kayak from falling to the ground if you pull it to far , I'm going to try a rope with carabiners on each side and one end to the hook in the front of the truck bed and the other end to the yak's front handle. For unloading, just pull the kayak until the rope stops it. Make the rope size to be exactlly at the point where the rudder doesn't touch the ground but the landing gear does.
Happy fishing, cheers!
Will this work with the jackson big rig
ScoutMaddox G sure
Purchased for my Hobie PA12. They made my kayak about 10lbs heavier than it already is. The size of the holes needed for mounting into my kayak made me uncomfortable for potential problems--hull integrity and leaking. The bar just got in the way of everything especially the built in Hobie Rod holders. Once they are mounted, there is no going back--the holes are to big to fill--so I'm stuck with them. On the flip-side, they are great for moving a fully loaded kayak around without the need to flip on it's side to remove the wheels, but concern about the weight causing structural damage is always there.
From the video i cant tell how the frame the wheels are inserted in is installed on the kayak. Pretty snazzy cart but $250? Cmon! Ill keep using my home made PVC cart for my Slayer Propel 10...$40 and sturdier than any other retail market cart i have ever tried.Thanks for the video.
Those look awesome...nice review.
If I go with a Slayer next year, I will definitely grab this. Looks sweet!
Let me or Greg know! Answer any questions you have.
+BeyondTheBounds Will do. =)
this looks SO much easier than reaching under the boat in water and trying to find a latch ''pin'' to undo quicker more secure an no lousy straps to slip and slide
oh thats no joke!......trying to lift your heavy 120lb geared up yak on top of a stupid cart that wants to float is hard. Also helps me protect my rudder. but saves me TONS of time.
I paid $169 for the Native one like this, 15% off from my dealer. Ya turning the rudder out of the way sounds like an awesome idea I
I need to see it at the beach 🏖 to be sure its good enough 👍
Thanks for posting !
I'm thinking of getting a 10' Slayer and getting these. And then using the same size tubing and making some outriggers using the landing gear mount as an attachment point :-) Double duty :-D
Great vid, definitely validates my purchase decision. I should be receiving my landing gear this afternoon, I like how you've mounted it, do you think there would be an appreciable difference in weight distribution mounting a little further forward behind the seat? That was my plan since I don't see much of a use for the tiny access port back there.
I bet there would be. I chose my location based on three factors....I want it to contact the ground coming off my truck asap, and near the end is better for lifting when leaving, and out of the way during fishing.....easy access during installation as well
I've been messaging back and forth with another Slayer owner on Facebook, he said that Boonedox is developing a U-shaped cross bar to provide rear hatch access. I totally see wanting to have the wheels touch the ground sooner to avoid hitting the rudder. What about cranking the rudder to one side, would that give more clearance? I've also thought about removing the rudder for loading/unloading. Guess I'll just trial and error it until I get it mounted where I like. Thanks again and tight lines!
Looks like a great product for making things simple for transporting kayaks to and from the water. But I don't see where you could mount that on my kayak which is a nucanoe frontier 10. Would like to see some videos of it mounted on the frontiers.
There is still alot of weight in the front when having to lift to pull, you get fatigue. Be nice to have a 3rd wheel in front to ease the pull especially when pulling and having to go up hill and rougher terrain.
does anyone use this landing gear on the shearwater 125? been really wanting to get this landing gear, just wanna make sure it’s compatible with my kayak.
Is that the N rudder?
Great video, I have a 2016 slayer and ordered the landing gear but when it came in I could not mount it where yours is because of the rod holders they added for 2016. When I tried a little further back it was sitting on the gear track (not sure if native changed the mold, where the track is higher than the top edge of the boat) so the gear track would get mashed down a little if I tried it there. Sent it back and got the c-tug and finally took the yak out. I would much prefer the boonedox after using the C-tug. The landing gear might work because after using the yak I found out that my seat is almost all the way forward and there looks to be enough of a flat spot behind it to mount. So after all that, my question is, are you seeing any issues with the boat where you drilled your holes? On another note what do you wear on your feet and for pants when the weather gets much colder when launching the yak?
Man I'm sorry to hear that. I definitely will be adding this to every boat. Mine is just over the front of the back well. If it were me I'd cut the track off that portion and never think twice. For cold weather upper 40s I wear NRS boots. Anything lower than 45....I'm in the house!...if I'm in a tourney I'll wear hunting or snow boots.
For pants.... I just use layers and waterproof clothes like my under amour storm rain suit.....extra gloves too.
I've seen no issues with the boonedox warping the kayak...I keep it covered outside year round.
Thanks for the info I think I'm going to give it a shot. When backing the boat in with the landing gear how deep of water do you have to walk in before getting in the boat? I take it the NRS boots come up high enough to keep from getting too wet on cold days. I love fall fishing just want to be prepared. Thanks again for your help!
+H0rga8ns yup the boots come up to below your knee. I'm wearing them in the vid. I normally half to lift the yak a smidge. I'd say about 1' of water
Here is what makes me think they are worth the price and aggravation of putting them on. I was watching another video, the guy, that did it on his Hobie PA14, while in the water, ready to retrieve, he would reach around and put the Landing Gear in then paddle to the dock. He got out on the dock, did not get wet. Then pulled the kayak to him reached down, got the kayak and walked to the trailer. Did the same when launching, never got wet. Did it all from the kayak. Took no time at all.
One other thing he did, was to switch them from l-r and then r-l for rolling it around. When he put them in the up position, he put them proper one in the right slot. Says it rolls better.
Thank You!
do you have an install video? did you put the extra screw into the trak? that looks really difficult.
+yosemite scuba absolutely do not screw this in the way I did. They do have track mounts please go that route. This cracked my slayer....but it was the way they promoted mounting it when the product hit the market. Mount it to the tracks they are designed to support the weight....and likely will honor your warranty.
thank you for getting back to me. i did get the track mount package but wanted your input. thank you very much.
+yosemite scuba absolutely good luck bud. Awesome product and I love it.
I don’t know. Yesterday, I took my maiden kayak voyage using the Native Sidekick (like the BooneDox Landing Gear) . I had a bitch of a time. The problem was getting the wheels off and on with the boat in the water a bit, and I have the 10.5 boat. I had to try to lift the boat with one hand, and not the best grip, while trying to either remove, or insert the wheels - a pain in the ass. Next time I will not even use the Sidekick. I’ll just back my truck up to the water’s edge like I always did with my canoe. I am not seeing the big need for this Sidekick unless there is some distance to walk to the shoreline. I’d love to hear comments on how other guys insert and remove the wheel bars when launching, and landing. Thank you.
Wasnt ever an issue with the boonedox
Thanks for the review. I have a slayer 10 and my question is.... how much weight does the mounting hardware add to the hull weight? I load / unload (car top) by myself and my bare slayer is pretty much the max I can lift. I understand that the wheels come completely off of the boondox. Thanks! Very nice video!
Old Lady Angler first gotta say impressed you car top that bad boy yourself....I bought my slayer then ran out to buy a truck 2 days later! So the boonedox weighs about 14lbs. I imagine the wheels are roughly 2-3lbs each, so let's say 6-8lbs potentially added. I promise you worth the little extra weight, which is situated to the rear.
Thanks for the reply. Funny.... I'm researching used trucks right now. LOL. Car topping is getting harder for me. The extra weight probably won't matter much anymore. I think I may invest in the landing gear. Wonder if I can configure it to mount on my rear rail???
Old Lady Angler ...did u manage to mount it on your propel 10? I have a propel 10 and thinking about getting the boondox.
No I didn't. I was worried about the hull issues people have had. Warping near the installation point. I went with a CTug and put some pvc / pool noodle on it to make it work with my propel 10. So far, it's been just fine.
Old Lady Angler ..I may pull the trigger on this for my 10. awaiting some info from boonedox. I have a similar cart like the c tug and really dislike the straps and lifting all that weight on to the cart plus trying to negotiate the pool noodles with the hull balancing.
Another awesome video. Do you think there are any issues with a crate or blackpak not being secured with the mount in that location on the slayer?
None at all I put my crate behind it no problem!
+BeyondTheBounds Thanks for the quick reply!
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Just for you man I made the full batman version public!
I do have the Wheelez set up that I bought a couple years ago and HATE the way it mounts to a kayak !! Do I need to send a photo to Boonedox to buy just the accessories I need without the wheels !! This seems like a lot easier system of connecting !!! Thanks for the video !
Not sponsored by these guys....but this will be a purchase with each new kayak!
Their prices just keep on going up. Its around $400 now. I'm surprised that there isn't another company making these yet ,Time to DIY
Battousai C 400$$?? Just picked one up for around 180$$.
I'm gonna try it with birch ply, fiberglass and electrical conduit. Use the wheels off my table saw cart.
I just bought the slayer 10 and am wondering if this landing gear would fit on it as well. I know you have it on a 13. I am also interested in the rudder will it fit on a 10 or just the 13?
Both the rudder and landing gear will fit the 10.
Kelly Beck did you ever buy it for your propel 10? I'm interested for my 10 as well but like to know of others who have install it. so far I haven't found anyone installing on a 10.
Thank you for the video. Wondering how is it holding up after a couple of years? It looked a bit flimsy for a few moments in your video. Trying to select a gear for my heavy kayak (Predator PDL) and going back and forth between this one and CTug/Sandwheelz combo. Thanks!
It cracked my slayer because I drilled it. However it now mounts to the track and is much better. Only issue I had with it and my hobie was the tire got too close to the hull. So long as you don't drill the hull it will work fine but I think on the pdl you will lose some rear well space.
Wow, thanks for update. A bit confused by "as long as you don't drill the hull" - I thought you cannot install the main rails unless you drilled the kayak...
Ah...so for both my Slayer and Hobie I had to mount/drill the hull to mount the black end pieces that hold the wheel arms. I traded in my hobie, but after the first year and half it the piece inside the hull started pulling thru due to sharp edges on the corners. This cracked my slayer hull. Drilling likely will void your warranty as well. with the PDL I think you have plates you can mount the black pieces too, so drilling those shouldn't be a big issue at all. I would just caution you from attaching the black pieces directly to your hull. The boonedox now has track mounts and i wouldn't worry one bit about attaching the boonedox to the slayer tracks...they can hold up due to the double molding process of the screws holding the tracks on the kayak.
Thanks man, I think I'm gonna pass on BoonDox. Don't think I would want to apply the weight of loaded kayak on these black plates (each held by 4 screws..)
Hey, i talked with Beyondthebounds about your comment here..I had the PDL, and i think whats convenient is those plates in the back for the boonedox. Those plates are SUPER strong... they could hold the boonedox very well.. The kayak on those carts, really isnt all that heavy. Not a ton of stress is really going on those plates. What i do recommend is getting the Hobie Pro angler bar. This bar is longer .. the orange insert bar.. its longer allowing your black plates to reach the PDL plates and be more secured on there. Also... that longer bar allows your wheels to sit in a transport position better... the PDLs back end has a curved lip to it bc of how the hull is shaped.. getting those black plates on the boonedox farther to the edge of the PDL plates can keep your wheels and their shaft away from the side of the kayak and not hit that curved lip. Also keeps the tires away from the hull while transporting.. I highly recommend them.. the PDL and Boonedox is a combo made for perfection. I think you would be VERY pleased with that purchase
So if I already have a set of sand wheels will they fit the landing gear?
I bet they would, but I would contact boonedox to make sure
Thanks for the reply.
I did contact Boondex and got a lot of good info from them.
If you already have the sand wheels you will have to buy the sand legs which have larger and longer legs then the regular landing gear.
The sand legs will cost you $89.00
In my case I only launch from the beach so they let piece my landing gear kit for $266.00 for the beach version w/o any wheels, that's including shipping + they gave me an awesome 15% military discount.
If you already have the WheelEez 30u sand wheels you also need to buy a 1"bearing adapter kit for $25.00
located here:www.wheeleez.com/parts/WZ1-30PU-parts.php
If you don't have sand wheels, wheeleez.com has them with the 1"bearings already installed $88.00 ea and are offing a 15% discount on top of that.
Hope this helps any one out there. :)
Really thinking of getting this. I usually go by myself so handling a Slayer Propel 13 can be a problem. I was wondering if the plastic in the hull is holding up . Makes me little nervous to have all the weight hanging on the hull like that . any updates would be greatly appreciated .
Ed Ritchie thanks for the vid idea!......this product has performed flawlessly. Moreover I've seen it attached to rails.....each of the screws in the tracks of the native products are rated for 2500 lbs due to them being molded in. What's more is the cooling process of the mold is not rushed like with some other manufacturers. I store my native outside during the winter and everything works and fits perfectly and mine is a 2014. It is my favorite aftermarket product period.
BeyondTheBounds ,So it safe then to mount to the tracks? I'm going to look at mine tomorrow I beleive.capital it a 16 model.
Ed Ritchie absolutely safe for track mounting
The track won't start to bend?
Ed Ritchie nope
250 dollars is a little bit expensive...is half of a kafyak price....(Ascend sit on top kayak)
Worth every penny....I'm working on another video to compare it against other carts.....but most people have fishing rods and reels that are almost $350 combined...so this ain't nothing to them.
Fred Fable ascend you get what you pay for
What do you guys do when you fall in the f****** River with in big boots on and they fill up with water
Generally stand up boots wont sink you
Does this warp the Kayak where the brackets are mounted?
haven't had it on long enough to answer that but I highly doubt it
haven't had it on long enough to answer that but I highly doubt it
haven't had it on long enough to answer that but I highly doubt it
haven't had it on long enough to answer that but I highly doubt it
haven't had it on long enough to answer that but I highly doubt it
Is this bolted to the kayak??
+Ramiro Lopez mine is, but you can mount it to the tracks....native tracks have screw points rated for 1000lb pull strength
U in Maryland?
yup
Where is this?
Hey bud...I shot this at trap pond ind Delaware
250 is way to much for any wheels
+Joe P You know I feel the exact same way about a BlackPak!
I just looked at it on Amazon...they now want $409 for it...I could easily make this in my shop for pennies lol..its a great system but way to much money for it
How long is your truck bed? I notice you don’t have a bed extender and just slide it in. How do you strap it down for highway transport any tips are appreciated!
I believe it is 6.5' and then with the tailgate down 8. I've Never used the extender but it's a great product. For my hobie I used 2pieces of 2.5" PVC to keep the transducer off the bed of the truck the PVC was About 6' long an ran down the center.
I can't imagine this is good for surf fishing
Over 400 Canadian way to much
Easy enough to make your own. 100$
Not bad for short walks, but it still looks like your carrying 75 percent of the weight, not good for a half mile trip, unless mounted closer to center
Depending on the weight of the yak. Without the 100lbs of gear I added every trip...tackle cameras rods fish finder lead acid batteries...it would be no hassle to lug a longer distance
250 is a joke.
John Patterson it ain't cheap....but I love it....glad I won a second one I put it on the hobie. Thanks for watching
BeyondTheBounds sure. but, seriously. 250.
John Patterson haha man i know I don't set the prices...I'm not sponsored by them but they help us out with giveaways I paid full price for it and I truly love it. Just trying to represent it so people can make an informed decision...it actually damage both my boats and you can bet I'm gonna make a video about that!
BeyondTheBounds oh yeah. I have 0 problem with the review, but the manufacturer needs to hear. 😎
John Patterson word! I can't wait to do the review on how it has damaged two of my boats....lol and I'd still buy it!!! But that's just me. Hey man thanks for watching and commenting you are absolutely right they need to see this feedback! Both MTB and LTB commented and appreciated my video about them.
Useless at the beach. These type are a dime a dozen. Need new beach wheel designs.
No thanks 200 bucks made 1 that work great for 40 bucks