THANKS VOID! Now that I know how to up air properly my wife gives me eye contact, the kids call me dad and not my first name, and my friends put me back in the group chat! Thx!
Learning Slowfall Up Air has changed my reality. I got a girlfriend after my first SFUA. I feel more confident in my everyday life. I got a promotion at work and now make over 500k. Guys, seriously learn SFUA if u want to make a change to your life!!!
I’ve been doing this tech with Joker for a while now. It helps specifically with fair one up air combos since you can reliably get all four hits of it more consistently imo. I’m not really sure about Sheik, but I think you can replace almost all of your short hop up airs with this method for more consistent combos in general
1:53 It appears like the slow-fall up-air still makes use of fast-falling, but the difference is the short dash forward, at least to catch di-away, as well as the earlier start-time of the up-air.
For anyone that’s needs tips. Make sure you buffer dash and short hop after a down tilt or f tilt. It is possible with buffered up air but it’s less reliable
Been wanting to play Sheik for a while but always struggled with using both jab and up air, up air especially coming from a character like Joker, so this explained a lot and I instantly was able to joop in training mode after watching
VOID TRY THIS I WAS LABBING: On 80% (did this on ROB) Dtilt > slow Uair dd > joop (repeat 3 times) ON THE THIRD JOOP of the third Upair just do RAW down air up into down air up smash, I tried it and it might actually be legit
I was practicing sheik today and I didn't even realize I was doing this when practicing ftilt upair loops lol. Definitely gonna try to utilize it more with these different combos if I commit to the character!
Not sure if it’s new tech but I just figured out you can use grab to dair out of footstool giving you a buffered air dodge if you miss or the dair if you hit.
not sure how applicable it is with di and defensive options, but i did some messing around with it. i was able to hit f tilt/d tilt > slow fall up air > up smash on characters with similar fall speed to steve at about 90%. again, i didn't test with mashing jump or air dodge or any di so it might not be true at all, but i thought it would be a fun idea to entertain
You are correct, it is essentially fast-falling after the third hit. Now let me explain why that wasn't obvious for a long time. If you'd try to let them fall down slowly from a dragdown at low percent you simply will not be able to combo because they can act before they hit the ground. Because of this, the reliable method for dragdowns for years has been to get them down to the ground as quickly as possible and for all dragdown applications this method has always done it's job. There was never really a reason to look anywhere else, and since letting them fall early was known to be "bad" from labbing at early percent, no one bothered to experiment with it. What makes this inventive is that it defies the basic intuitions you pick up when you first experiment with dragdowns. Kudos to Void!
Btw this is also applicable with Joker, but you need to get the 4th hit, not the 3rd, and it only helps on certain characters, or when doing the infinite. It’s not something you need to know with him unlike Sheik, but it can definitely be useful!
Nice. This is basically a compilation video of tech from the Sheik discord. I'm glad somebody finally made this, cuz folks in the Discord aren't really content creators, thus causing things like this to be known only by active members. Thanks for doing this Void 👍🏾 everything was clear, concise, and demonstrated well
Even though this might not seem like muvh of a difference from a first glance as a shiek player I can tell that this is insanely big for consistency and making combos stupid long
You found a new Sheik tech using up air! That is siiiick! Love the videos, Void! I found potential Marth ladder combos with Up Air, too. It's quite silly.
I assume in this case, the upair will combo at slightly later percents compared to ffua? Since they don’t necessarily have the landing lag, they need enough hitstun to allow you to throw something new out. Or, is the hitstun consistent with regular ffua?
What could be possible if you do this from under a plat, then drag them onto the plat? I wonder if you could do the other half of a raindrop. Or U-tilt, or f-tilt, or rar backair, etc... I have no idea, but it seems like an interesting and odd situation you force your opponent into, and imo unfamiliar
Just to confirm that I understand it, is the difference from standard ffua that you start the up air before the peak of your jump, versus delaying until the peak of your jump for a normal one? So you’re still fast falling before the 4th hit, but you’re just higher in the air because the aerial started sooner?
The key difference is fast-falling after the third hit, rather than after the second. You can start the up-air sooner because you don't have to fast-fall as early (you can only FF once you reached the apex of your jump).
@@MicrowavedFurby The "slowfall" happens because you hit the up air on the opponent sooner and drag them down for less of its hits. It's only called the slowfall because that's what it does to opponents but in effect its a faster drag down.
You mean this isn't how it was always supposed to be performed? I guess I had misunderstood then. Edit: I'm not a Sheik main or anything, but whenever I did play Sheik this is what I would always attempt (and usually fail) to do.
Yeah the usual tech has been to input the uair at the peak of your shorthop. Now it seems it's actually way better to input the uair as you're rising, but not buffered with shorthop.
Note that both the usual fast falling up air and slow fall up air have their uses - the usual fast fall up air has much more frame advantage so only that one will ever combo into fsmash, or upsmash on a platform without rage. But at higher percents or with more rage when you dont need the extra hitstun then slow fall up air lets you hit dragdowns in more scenarios and keep them in the air which is sometimes better
THANKS VOID! Now that I know how to up air properly my wife gives me eye contact, the kids call me dad and not my first name, and my friends put me back in the group chat! Thx!
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Legend
Inspiring
Beautiful
Lol, I love thay you chose Sephiroth specifically to demonstrate the combos 😂
Well you know, he got all that practice cooking nairo
optimal
He’s also pretty tall as well. Which makes the Uair easier to land.
Learning Slowfall Up Air has changed my reality. I got a girlfriend after my first SFUA. I feel more confident in my everyday life. I got a promotion at work and now make over 500k. Guys, seriously learn SFUA if u want to make a change to your life!!!
Crops are thriving, pores are clearing, bills are paid 🙌
Never in my life have I expected to see more new sheik tech after peak sheik was seemingly already reached.
Welcome to fighting games. In a year there will be more probably
Oh god there's so much more to sheik
So the advantage of this UAir is that you can start it earlier and the enemy falls slower meaning you can get more follow ups? Thats sick!
Igotchu folks, How to do it: 1:40
I’ve been doing this tech with Joker for a while now. It helps specifically with fair one up air combos since you can reliably get all four hits of it more consistently imo. I’m not really sure about Sheik, but I think you can replace almost all of your short hop up airs with this method for more consistent combos in general
Joker’s up air does this sort of thing more easily. I always struggled with sheik drag down combos but never with Joker
1:53 It appears like the slow-fall up-air still makes use of fast-falling, but the difference is the short dash forward, at least to catch di-away, as well as the earlier start-time of the up-air.
For anyone that’s needs tips. Make sure you buffer dash and short hop after a down tilt or f tilt. It is possible with buffered up air but it’s less reliable
3:20 WoW
Love how this sounds like an old 2000s tv commercial.
Been wanting to play Sheik for a while but always struggled with using both jab and up air, up air especially coming from a character like Joker, so this explained a lot and I instantly was able to joop in training mode after watching
Use the C stick to easily drag down up air. It’s not as hard as it seems
@@Mindgaminguremember when u got bodied by ganon?
@@Mindgamingu it’s not difficult, I do that already, it’s more that I wasn’t aware of why the up air would combo sometimes but not others
I was wondering how you were hitting that against nairo so consistently
VOID TRY THIS I WAS LABBING:
On 80% (did this on ROB)
Dtilt > slow Uair dd > joop (repeat 3 times)
ON THE THIRD JOOP of the third Upair just do RAW down air up into down air up smash, I tried it and it might actually be legit
I was practicing sheik today and I didn't even realize I was doing this when practicing ftilt upair loops lol. Definitely gonna try to utilize it more with these different combos if I commit to the character!
Not sure if it’s new tech but I just figured out you can use grab to dair out of footstool giving you a buffered air dodge if you miss or the dair if you hit.
Cool! Can't wait to see you pull off those jab shenanigans on someone! Also hype you uploaded!!!! Lets go Void!!
WebbJP did some last weekend at LMMM
Good stuff, you significantly improved this (imo bad) char's # of positive interactions to take a stock! Sheik might be up a whole tier now.
I thought this was found out a LOOOONG time ago? Am i tripping? lmao
Combos showcased on Seph specificly to tilt Nairo
not sure how applicable it is with di and defensive options, but i did some messing around with it. i was able to hit f tilt/d tilt > slow fall up air > up smash on characters with similar fall speed to steve at about 90%. again, i didn't test with mashing jump or air dodge or any di so it might not be true at all, but i thought it would be a fun idea to entertain
VoiD creating modern Sheik content??? WE ARE SOOO BACK!!!! 👑
tldr: fast fall after the third hit to prevent the dragdown using fastfall momentum
You are correct, it is essentially fast-falling after the third hit. Now let me explain why that wasn't obvious for a long time.
If you'd try to let them fall down slowly from a dragdown at low percent you simply will not be able to combo because they can act before they hit the ground. Because of this, the reliable method for dragdowns for years has been to get them down to the ground as quickly as possible and for all dragdown applications this method has always done it's job. There was never really a reason to look anywhere else, and since letting them fall early was known to be "bad" from labbing at early percent, no one bothered to experiment with it.
What makes this inventive is that it defies the basic intuitions you pick up when you first experiment with dragdowns. Kudos to Void!
they've unlocked the joker drag down game everybody hide
This makes a lot of sense since its mechanically really similar to pikachu lightning loops
Nairo be fuming secretly on his alt accounts
The way u say the combo names is killing me lmao “JOOPS!”
Will you do a video on the up air kill confirms you have been labbing some days ago?
Yes I will :)
This videos explains why I died to a sheik by a non sweet spot up air in a combo yesterday. LOL I thought he just got….. “Lucky!”
Btw this is also applicable with Joker, but you need to get the 4th hit, not the 3rd, and it only helps on certain characters, or when doing the infinite. It’s not something you need to know with him unlike Sheik, but it can definitely be useful!
All that with one sleeve rolled up, man's only at 50% power.
Nice. This is basically a compilation video of tech from the Sheik discord. I'm glad somebody finally made this, cuz folks in the Discord aren't really content creators, thus causing things like this to be known only by active members. Thanks for doing this Void 👍🏾 everything was clear, concise, and demonstrated well
This is the "Be float" of sheik tech
Yeah, pretty sure you and webbjp were doing that recently and I was like "wow, is this New?.."
void entered the light zone with the one sleeve up lol
thats classic and almost the only way to do upper-dragdown with greninja
I like how void's arm has somehow shifted to Light's
To honor Nairo we should call them Marvel Up Airs
Every time I drop this character cuz online a burst of inspiration comes from somewhere. This is so cool
Wouldn’t this Uair tech also apply to Joker as well? Both him and Sheik essentially have the same exact Uair attack.
The time has come. Sheik mains will rule
Is it weird that this is how I've been U-airing with Shiek already? lol
This is sick! Also what’s up with the one sleeve up and one sleeve down near the end of the video?
Watching you use this in person to beat lammers last contender was kinda crazy lol
Thank you Void! You are very inspiring to all the Sheik mains out there
Imagine this flipping the Steve MU
You're telling me this isn't how y'all have been doing drag downs?
I feel the same way. Maybe it wasn't declared, but some people already (myself included) may have used it unintentionally
this seems like it has some real promise
Alright void you got me
I'm a sheik believer now
Even though this might not seem like muvh of a difference from a first glance as a shiek player I can tell that this is insanely big for consistency and making combos stupid long
I been doing this, just thought of it as delaying a combo sequence
You found a new Sheik tech using up air! That is siiiick! Love the videos, Void!
I found potential Marth ladder combos with Up Air, too. It's quite silly.
Marth has a 0-death with fast fall up air
Nairo: the bullshi keeps piling up
Remember when they nerfed Palu because her combos were a entire Cut Scene…..😭😭
No nerfs this time 😅
I hope marss can find something for himself too.
Does anyone know if Greninja can do something similar with his up air?
*Switches from being a joker main to a sheik main*
I assume in this case, the upair will combo at slightly later percents compared to ffua? Since they don’t necessarily have the landing lag, they need enough hitstun to allow you to throw something new out. Or, is the hitstun consistent with regular ffua?
What could be possible if you do this from under a plat, then drag them onto the plat? I wonder if you could do the other half of a raindrop. Or U-tilt, or f-tilt, or rar backair, etc... I have no idea, but it seems like an interesting and odd situation you force your opponent into, and imo unfamiliar
Just to confirm that I understand it, is the difference from standard ffua that you start the up air before the peak of your jump, versus delaying until the peak of your jump for a normal one? So you’re still fast falling before the 4th hit, but you’re just higher in the air because the aerial started sooner?
The key difference is fast-falling after the third hit, rather than after the second. You can start the up-air sooner because you don't have to fast-fall as early (you can only FF once you reached the apex of your jump).
Does this mean that wiil you attend to ultimate tournament more often?
"Wow!" 😁
Great video! Great Content!
does it work with a buffered UA (is it that already?) or would it be too ealry?
Share this with WebbJP before Watch the Throne happens
can u find pichu tech now pls
Thank you so much crack 🙏🏼🔥🙏🏼🔥
Ah the greninja tech
now that i really know how this works, I got no excuses as a Sheik player!!
is there every any reason to do an up air drag down the old way now? or is this just better?
I don't play Sheik. Is this a rising up-air but input slightly after short-hop input?
Are you able to auto short hop into this? Or does this only work with a timed input?
So you’re still fast falling, but not starting the fall until later?
what will you unlock if you do this with Joker? Since they are having similar up-air
So just uair earlier?
the Year of the Sheik..... yes......... good...............
Congrats void, this is a great find
Is it a rising up air or a landing up air ?
here I was doing this every time I picked up shiek in friendlies because I thought this was just how you do it (I do not play shiek)
Sheik CAN kill?!! ( ﾟдﾟ)
Just a difference in delay with upair
Back to the lab again
Void, how applicable would you say is this tech?
ong i was labbing raindrop earlier this week and found slowfall uair being useful. i thought it was cool. when void finds it?? bro. will. cook.
Can Joker do this too?
Man you're the best
Why is he covering only one shoulder
Is it itchy
I still don't understand why/how this makes it possible to hit DI away
Since you can start the up air sooner, you have more time to dash up to catch the di
@@silica142 but what does slow falling have to do with the startup time?
@@MicrowavedFurby The "slowfall" happens because you hit the up air on the opponent sooner and drag them down for less of its hits. It's only called the slowfall because that's what it does to opponents but in effect its a faster drag down.
ayoooo new tech? 👀
...so just time your fast fall rather than doing it for the whole move. That's fundies afaik.
Not me playing sheik bc she is fine asf
You mean this isn't how it was always supposed to be performed? I guess I had misunderstood then.
Edit: I'm not a Sheik main or anything, but whenever I did play Sheik this is what I would always attempt (and usually fail) to do.
Yeah the usual tech has been to input the uair at the peak of your shorthop. Now it seems it's actually way better to input the uair as you're rising, but not buffered with shorthop.
Note that both the usual fast falling up air and slow fall up air have their uses - the usual fast fall up air has much more frame advantage so only that one will ever combo into fsmash, or upsmash on a platform without rage. But at higher percents or with more rage when you dont need the extra hitstun then slow fall up air lets you hit dragdowns in more scenarios and keep them in the air which is sometimes better
lego void 🐐
So sick
You’re da 🐐
let's go void!! ♥
🐐🐐🐐🐐
Hype!
Goat 🐐
sheik mains need to stop coping and just use a top tier.
ive been doing this forever i dont get it LMAO is this a joke
Smash has the worst names for moves ever. Why you call it slowfall when you’re fastfalling?