I think the logic is that if Grey was able to get a key, then anyone must be able to get one if they ask. There are lots of places that you can't just waltz into but are still "open to the public", like movie theaters, or paid amusement parks, etc.
I am the funniest TH-camr of all time I watched my latest video and laughed for 69 minutes straight I am extremely funny I am dangerously funny and I have two girlfriends who think I am extremely dangerously funny and they watch all of my videos thanks for listening dear will
Best director's commentary I've seen was by Frankenheimer for the movie Ronin. The things he taught about the craft, the movement, transitions, bringing the audience along... I can't stop seeing behind the curtain a bit in every film I watch now. It's been years but remembering that commentary makes me want to watch it yet again.
@@dehanwiraputra2241 if you see specifically them everywhere then someone probably programmed it as a bot, if it's not specifically them, then it's just a bad meme
As interesting as Tekoi is, seeing the pictures of the Russians humanizes the place or topic very much. I remember growing up during the last years of the Cold War. Yes, there was genuine fear about nuclear war and invasions from the Soviets, but at the same time there was this exciting awe to meet Russians and Soviets in person. In my hometown, which is also a college town, a ballet company from the USSR performed, and both the host and the guests had a blast meeting one another. Before they left, they gave the hosts Ushanka hats, and the hosts gave cowboy hats to them in return. The humanizing experience kept the town abuzz after the ballet company left to continue the tour. So, seeing these pictures in the videos makes me wonder, "Who are these men? What are their names? What did they think coming to Tekoi? What were they feeling once the inspections were done? Did they have parties or picnics with the Americans?" The story can go on forever.
this was made public intentionally as a "historical archive", since the original Tekoi video was taken down cuz of an error. (watch "cgp grey was wrong")
Being a college student that's still not allowed to be a part of your members--I greatly appreciate being able to see this (even if you released it because you claim to have made an error)
Wait... Your college won't allow you to be a member of Grey's patreon? Or patreon in general? What college is it? And how can they possibly police that? And what is their reasoning? I'm so curious
I was in my first year of high school when the Russian inspectors came to UT. I was attending school in Magna UT. A few memories I have of that time was the Russians would be visiting our high school one day during their time in UT. We were giving things we could and could not say to them, due to security reasons. We could talk about American school and life, but not where things were located in the community, state, county, etc. I remember city boundaries were changed in Salt Lake City, West Valley City, and Magna do facility proper security. I had many friends that had parents that worked for Hercules during the 80's and 90's. Thank you for the commentary. It has been interesting.
@cgpgrey and others wondering at 53:11. The Alliant Techsystems (ATK) "sporting goods" business was a collection of outdoor/sporting brands that mostly sold items related to shooting. That division spun off and became Vista Outdoor, which is still a publicly traded company today. Examples of those brands include Federal Ammunition, Hoppe's gun oil, Bushnell optics, Blackhawk holsters and accessories, and Savage Arms rifles and shotguns. The sporting division was actually a major revenue stream for ATK.
The line that got me from this commentary is the guy that said "we are going to keep peace even if we have have to start a nuclear war to do it." The famous big stick diplomacy always makes me chuckle
I think I might be able to shed some light on the bankruptcy of Hercules. When the Cold War ended, there was a massive political push for "the peace dividend" which basically entailed massive cuts to the military, which, as the logic went, didn't need to be as large now that the war was over. This is very likely the source of these cancelled contracts. If I had to conjecture, I'd say that a number of large, poorly timed, DOD contracts being cancelled in combination with plateauing profits is what killed the company. As for a bit of a backstory, when my father was in the airforce, pretty much everyone he knew was leaving the military around that point (mid nineties). I think there was a general sentiment of "hey let's move on from this" or "there's no future here". I'd imagine this could also be taken with the context of the rapid growth of the economy and the rise of the tech industry. As for Hercules, another thing I'd like to point out is that the origins of Hercules as a smokeless gunpowder manufacturer still live on under the Alliant brand. To be honest I don't know if the company has any relation to Alliant Tech Systems, but hopefully this completes a little more of the picture for anyone who is interested (hopefully CPG grey sees this lol)
I think a good topic for a gray video would be "what does classified mean"/ "how exactly does that work?" obviously it would spiral off into the difference between classification schemas and different countries and the infinite rabbit hole. It seems to be one of the interesting artifacts of the modern information age is that some countries have automatic declassification schema and automatic archival process that just makes all of their information become public at some point kind of like a patent expiring. So they are a frequent treasure trove of historical footage and documents and all kinds of things and there are other countries that their default rule is it stays classified until somebody bothers to declassify it and their country stays a giant mystery forever. people talk about history is being eurocentric or things like that but history has written in the 2020s seems to be centric on those countries that publicly allow historians and people in general to research their information and far less centered on countries worthy burden of accessing the information is higher.
It's amazing to see your chat, actually. Half of them seem worldly, which is refreshing. It isn't all filled with idiocy. Some of them were funny and refreshing. Kudos to the community. 100%!
Wow, the last chat message (from "rabblerouser") at 43:00 is foreshadowing. 🙃 Thanks for setting this commentary to public, I always wondered what these are like! :)
New comment on an old but still amazing video: A Hercules powder factory near where I used to live suffered from 3 separate explosions over the years. One in 1934, then 1940, and finally, 1989. The land that the factory is/was on is still fenced off, barbed wire included, but it's crazy to drive by there and know what happened just over the hills that surround it. You can actually see it from Google Earth and some of the buildings are still standing.
1:09:54 writing on a grey board - "Documentation" 1:10:11 Upper board: title "Types of vehicles that can contain cargo (L>=3.5 meters, D>=1.02 meters) (enter only through a checkpoint)"; labels "vans", "special vehicles" Lower board: title "Types of vehicles that have the right to exit through a checkpoint or exits", labels "vehicles to which measurement procedures are not applied", "special vehicles to which measurement procedures are applied", "special vehicles containing explosives including vehicles with nitroglycerin", "vehicles with open platforms that enter through a checkpoint depending on the cargo", "forklifts that go through checkpoints or exits, depending on the size of the cargo" 1:10:19 Writing on a box: "Accessories for battery maintenance" This is the best I could. UPD: small timestamp mistake
You will get more radiation flying to Kiev than you will walking around Pripyat and Chernobyl itself. It’s honestly one of the coolest places I’ve been to both from a science and historical perspective.
The key was definitely a clear indication. I remember watching the video and being confused as to why you would have a key for that specific gate if you'd never been there before. The only possible explanation was that someone knew you were there, and wanted you to be there. On the other hand, you know how people are with browser tabs. I bet a lot of people didn't even notice.
11:29 Is it just me or is the background behind the range totally different in the archival footage then it is in present day? Maybe its a slight angle which puts the rocky outcropping totally behind the building?
Yeah, it totally appears that big mound behind the building in present-day was not there at all in the archival footage. Wonder why that was put there?? The angle is different between the two recordings, but I don't think it's that big of a difference to cause such an optical illusion with that mound. It's too close to the building-on-rails.
I can watch anything you produce and/or with your narration...including Grey takes out the trash! Looking forward to “Tekoi scenes that didn’t make the cut” and “Tekoi Director’s cut corrected with BTS secrets”. Love your videos!!!
6:36 I think the thought process probably is "If Grey was able to get a key, then anybody can get one if they ask." Not a totally absurd line of reasoning, especially considering that people who've only watched the main video aren't privy to how you got the key. After all, the mere fact of needing a key doesn't really indicate anything. Some businesses require a key to use the bathroom, and yet most people will be given one if they ask. In the absence of any indication to the contrary, it's not unreasonable to assume that this key might be easy to get.
At one point in the 50s, the U.S. filmed a group of bombers flying in a staggered formation. The groups would fly back and pass the camera again to make it look like the U.S. bomber fleet was huge. The ussr believed it and built a huge fleet of their own that ended up being much bigger than the American fleet.
That was a great video Grey, amazing to see all of the behind the scenes work that went into making a video for your channel. The amount of value placed on the 'look' of a graph or feeling evoked by an image is extraordinary to hear from the creators perspective. So much content is taken in relatively passively and it is very meaningful to hear about the parts you kept and unfortunately made the hard decision to cut.
Others may have already mentioned it, but in reference to Chernobyl and safety: Unless you are licking things, or go to some very specific hot spots, its mostly safe now if you stay on the roads or other hard surfaces that have been repeatedly washed down by the weather. Deep in the forests its a few % "hotter" because the cleanup crew couldn't get everything, and there are a few waste dumps where equipment is piled up that are places you dont want to hang around, but in general its basically equivalent to a couple of international flights at most. Obviously inside the sarcophagus or the hospital basement (where all the clothing of the firefighters was dumped) is not a wise place to go, but the rest, is just a deserted city. There are plenty of videos of tours showing the rad levels of various places, and its all just fractionally above regular background level.
56:55 Hooray, I feel smart! Although before that moment in the video I would have guessed it spun off your tumbleweed research because of the mess you had to tank through at the beginning of the first video.
Its heartening to know that researching anything to do with ballistic missiles takes forever. Everything is so fractured and disconnected that even trying to find the details paints a blurry picture. But every once and a while you get a cool clear view of history, like the history of TEKOI.
31:00 It's interesting but certainly not unusual, that a lot of these silos as seen from Google Earth, look exactly the same, down to the slight angle of the buildings and precise placement of utility poles, fences and other features.
I looked up the Alliance Tech Systems sporting goods and it's still firearms based; stuff like optics, ammo, and more civilian based guns (like shotguns and rifles used for skeet and target shooting). Just for anyone who was curious
38:10 "Russia, in the meantime, not hampered by having to police the world..." Wow what a quote. Does anyone have the full video from the clip Grey plays here?
Confound it, CGP Grey! When I first saw the video, I thought to myself "Hey, that would be a fun place to go to; the scenery *kindof* familiar, but I'm sure it's too far away." Now that I know it's in my neck of the woods er, desert, it's all that much more tempting! (I'm not sure if I'll work up the courage to ask for permission, though, so my shyness, and being able to find the time, are the only obstacles now....)
Pretty sure the $640 fine discussed around 47:00 would only have been part of the company's costs for the worker that died. The OSHA fine would have been paid to the government for violating some kind of employee safety rules. It may not have been a severe violation, some jobs are just inherently dangerous, so small issues can be deadly. A settlement to the heirs of the injured worker would be a separate thing. I think somebody mentioned this in the on-screen discord chat log, but it didn't get picked up for further conversation.
Some might remember the Hercules graphics card of the 1980s which was developed by Hercules Computer Technology, a company founded at Hercules/California, the town founded by the explosives manufacturer. So that's the connection.
Holy cow, I am so happy to see my money going not just to fund excellent edutainment but to supporting the extensive research and conservation work that make it possible.
"Lucky accident from 30 years ago" -- riiiiight. I'm betting Future Grey invents a time machine, travels back 30 years ago knowing Current Grey would need the footage, and then stopped by 2020 to leave the footage somewhere he knew would be found....
@Grey - Radiation in Chernobyl's exclusion zone is the same as elsewhere on the planet. Inside the coffin (the concrete structure that covers the reactors), it's high. I'd recommend visiting, it's very interesting.
30:44 This is called the "Nuclear Sponge". Basically, the idea is to have actual nuke silos out in the open so the enemy knows they're there and that way they draw fire there in case of a nuclear attack, in the process drawing fire away from more important places. At least that's the theory. The question that arises then is why have these silos at all in populated areas. Anyways, the internet has more info on the matter.
You probably put them in populated areas to lend them credibility.If you've gotten to the point that you are planning the execution of a nuclear war, then civilian causalities aren't really going to bother you.
@@roguishpaladin I mean, if the intention is for them to be destroyed so they divert fire away from other more important stuff, why not put them in the middle of the Nevada desert or similarly uninhabited places? Even more, why have a nuclear sponge at all? Personally I think having a dozen subs is enough, and if that isn't enough, then nothing will be. Because the subs are essentially invisible, they are the real strategic US part of an MAD scenario. They can't really be targeted by an enemy, so no need to divert fire away from those. By having the subs you are already saying "if someone attacks us, we will nonetheless be able to destroy your country and maybe all life on Earth". You don't need a nuke sponge IMO, to me it does not do anything really. In fact, my very cynical opinion is that the nuke sponge is just a boondoggle. Money for corporate special interests and nothing more. But that's just my opinion, you almost surely have more faith in government and the state than I do, so.
Fun fact: in the Soviet Union they did the exact same thing regarding war propaganda, saying they were the good guys fighting imperialism. Not sure about the hues, but actually red is the color which represent Russia nowadays and the SSSR back in the day, so I suppose they portrayed USA in shades of gray (most Soviet TV sets were black and white, by the way.)
Now that I'm here, I'd like to make a recommendation. Put some sort of filter on the audio for the video so it sounds distinct from your commentary voice. Maybe pan it, or make put a high pass filter on it, so it sounds like it's coming from a different place than the commentary. I'd go into a long explanation of why it helps, but I know you like shorter comments.
“This Tekoi project turned out to be a whole thing” poor Grey didn’t even know what was about to hit him.
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CPG Grey: opens with key
Everyone else: Ahhh it must be open for the public!
@CommandoDude You'd think we'd be smarter about it given that's how you get fucking SHOT here.
CPG
My experience tells me the only way to acquire a key is to walk up behind somebody, press CTRL and pick it from their pocket.
SCOTLAND HAS THREE ARMS!!!!!1!!!!!!!!
I think the logic is that if Grey was able to get a key, then anyone must be able to get one if they ask. There are lots of places that you can't just waltz into but are still "open to the public", like movie theaters, or paid amusement parks, etc.
“If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter.”
Author-the gaping maw of the what is true dimension.
vell fuck
Actually that’s mark twain ,or pascal (Easter egg, go to the end of the tekoi correction )
it was Agatha all along
Like every good directors commentary, it's way longer than the actual show
I am the funniest TH-camr of all time I watched my latest video and laughed for 69 minutes straight I am extremely funny I am dangerously funny and I have two girlfriends who think I am extremely dangerously funny and they watch all of my videos thanks for listening dear will
Best director's commentary I've seen was by Frankenheimer for the movie Ronin. The things he taught about the craft, the movement, transitions, bringing the audience along... I can't stop seeing behind the curtain a bit in every film I watch now. It's been years but remembering that commentary makes me want to watch it yet again.
Way longer. Like, damn, m8!
@AxxL shut up just shut up I see you everywhere and it’s always just to comment this type of garbage
@@dehanwiraputra2241 if you see specifically them everywhere then someone probably programmed it as a bot, if it's not specifically them, then it's just a bad meme
Cgp grey is what you get when you find a university student who actually likes doing the research
Combined with a buttery smooth voice
You're describing a graduate student
He was a teacher
@@freddie9705 I believe he still teaches.
@@amehak1922 He actually hasn't taught since the late 2000's, he admitted it in a Q and A.
Grey is clearly very happy about the minuteman animation, but the corrected trident animation is even more impressive.
As interesting as Tekoi is, seeing the pictures of the Russians humanizes the place or topic very much. I remember growing up during the last years of the Cold War. Yes, there was genuine fear about nuclear war and invasions from the Soviets, but at the same time there was this exciting awe to meet Russians and Soviets in person. In my hometown, which is also a college town, a ballet company from the USSR performed, and both the host and the guests had a blast meeting one another. Before they left, they gave the hosts Ushanka hats, and the hosts gave cowboy hats to them in return. The humanizing experience kept the town abuzz after the ballet company left to continue the tour. So, seeing these pictures in the videos makes me wonder, "Who are these men? What are their names? What did they think coming to Tekoi? What were they feeling once the inspections were done? Did they have parties or picnics with the Americans?" The story can go on forever.
With most situations there's two stories... The "thing" story and the "people" story. Both are equally interesting and equally dense
this was made public intentionally as a "historical archive", since the original Tekoi video was taken down cuz of an error. (watch "cgp grey was wrong")
It wasn’t taken down, it was just unlisted
Got a link?
@@thebigdawgj check the descriptions in 'cgp grey was wrong' video. The unlisted video URL is there
*_minuteman III = error catastrophagus_*
Being a college student that's still not allowed to be a part of your members--I greatly appreciate being able to see this (even if you released it because you claim to have made an error)
Wait... Your college won't allow you to be a member of Grey's patreon? Or patreon in general? What college is it? And how can they possibly police that? And what is their reasoning? I'm so curious
@@monicap8561 Grey has insisted that students not be members, it was in his video when he started patreon
@@runnersshade6612 oh really? Lol I missed that
@@monicap8561 I think he was trying to say not to spend money they need on him.
Grey: You know what? I should go outside.
World: No.
The sun is a deadly lazer.
I was in my first year of high school when the Russian inspectors came to UT. I was attending school in Magna UT. A few memories I have of that time was the Russians would be visiting our high school one day during their time in UT. We were giving things we could and could not say to them, due to security reasons. We could talk about American school and life, but not where things were located in the community, state, county, etc. I remember city boundaries were changed in Salt Lake City, West Valley City, and Magna do facility proper security. I had many friends that had parents that worked for Hercules during the 80's and 90's. Thank you for the commentary. It has been interesting.
Cyprus?
PIRATES!!!!!! Class of 2010
@candyland wait, 2008. We would have overlapped by a year...
@@genisseoliphant2074 yes, I went to Cyprus for my sophomore year
@@eviive8496 ok, next question, do we know each other?
It’s so awesome to get such a direct insight into your creative process, thanks for making these
@cgpgrey and others wondering at 53:11. The Alliant Techsystems (ATK) "sporting goods" business was a collection of outdoor/sporting brands that mostly sold items related to shooting. That division spun off and became Vista Outdoor, which is still a publicly traded company today. Examples of those brands include Federal Ammunition, Hoppe's gun oil, Bushnell optics, Blackhawk holsters and accessories, and Savage Arms rifles and shotguns. The sporting division was actually a major revenue stream for ATK.
Thank you, I was racking my brain with where I knew Alliant Techsystems from. I didn't expect a TGC, CGP Grey connection.
This just in: this was made public on purpose, no need to feel guilty!
This video.
but the playlist of other commentaries in the desscription?
Cameron Avvampato the playlist is on his TH-cam page so I think hes making them available but not releasing them like other videos maybe.
@@Cami555555Sheep The other commentaries are locked behind members paywall. So no worries there.
The line that got me from this commentary is the guy that said "we are going to keep peace even if we have have to start a nuclear war to do it." The famous big stick diplomacy always makes me chuckle
I think I might be able to shed some light on the bankruptcy of Hercules. When the Cold War ended, there was a massive political push for "the peace dividend" which basically entailed massive cuts to the military, which, as the logic went, didn't need to be as large now that the war was over. This is very likely the source of these cancelled contracts. If I had to conjecture, I'd say that a number of large, poorly timed, DOD contracts being cancelled in combination with plateauing profits is what killed the company.
As for a bit of a backstory, when my father was in the airforce, pretty much everyone he knew was leaving the military around that point (mid nineties). I think there was a general sentiment of "hey let's move on from this" or "there's no future here". I'd imagine this could also be taken with the context of the rapid growth of the economy and the rise of the tech industry.
As for Hercules, another thing I'd like to point out is that the origins of Hercules as a smokeless gunpowder manufacturer still live on under the Alliant brand. To be honest I don't know if the company has any relation to Alliant Tech Systems, but hopefully this completes a little more of the picture for anyone who is interested (hopefully CPG grey sees this lol)
I got that little lightbulb moment when you mentioned the reservation. Thank you for validating me.
I think a good topic for a gray video would be "what does classified mean"/ "how exactly does that work?" obviously it would spiral off into the difference between classification schemas and different countries and the infinite rabbit hole. It seems to be one of the interesting artifacts of the modern information age is that some countries have automatic declassification schema and automatic archival process that just makes all of their information become public at some point kind of like a patent expiring. So they are a frequent treasure trove of historical footage and documents and all kinds of things and there are other countries that their default rule is it stays classified until somebody bothers to declassify it and their country stays a giant mystery forever. people talk about history is being eurocentric or things like that but history has written in the 2020s seems to be centric on those countries that publicly allow historians and people in general to research their information and far less centered on countries worthy burden of accessing the information is higher.
well freedom of information makes it ripe for academics to research
I remember being a kid and feeling and hearing Hercules doing their rocket testing. I lived on the west side of the Salt Lake Valley during the 80's.
It's amazing to see your chat, actually. Half of them seem worldly, which is refreshing. It isn't all filled with idiocy.
Some of them were funny and refreshing. Kudos to the community. 100%!
Wow, the last chat message (from "rabblerouser") at 43:00 is foreshadowing. 🙃
Thanks for setting this commentary to public, I always wondered what these are like! :)
New comment on an old but still amazing video:
A Hercules powder factory near where I used to live suffered from 3 separate explosions over the years. One in 1934, then 1940, and finally, 1989. The land that the factory is/was on is still fenced off, barbed wire included, but it's crazy to drive by there and know what happened just over the hills that surround it.
You can actually see it from Google Earth and some of the buildings are still standing.
1:09:54 writing on a grey board - "Documentation"
1:10:11 Upper board: title "Types of vehicles that can contain cargo (L>=3.5 meters, D>=1.02 meters) (enter only through a checkpoint)"; labels "vans", "special vehicles"
Lower board: title "Types of vehicles that have the right to exit through a checkpoint or exits", labels "vehicles to which measurement procedures are not applied", "special vehicles to which measurement procedures are applied", "special vehicles containing explosives including vehicles with nitroglycerin", "vehicles with open platforms that enter through a checkpoint depending on the cargo", "forklifts that go through checkpoints or exits, depending on the size of the cargo"
1:10:19 Writing on a box: "Accessories for battery maintenance"
This is the best I could.
UPD: small timestamp mistake
You will get more radiation flying to Kiev than you will walking around Pripyat and Chernobyl itself. It’s honestly one of the coolest places I’ve been to both from a science and historical perspective.
First time I got a rare Grey video with "x seconds ago" on my recommended section! So happy to be quarantined!
The key was definitely a clear indication. I remember watching the video and being confused as to why you would have a key for that specific gate if you'd never been there before. The only possible explanation was that someone knew you were there, and wanted you to be there. On the other hand, you know how people are with browser tabs. I bet a lot of people didn't even notice.
11:29 Is it just me or is the background behind the range totally different in the archival footage then it is in present day? Maybe its a slight angle which puts the rocky outcropping totally behind the building?
Yeah, it totally appears that big mound behind the building in present-day was not there at all in the archival footage. Wonder why that was put there?? The angle is different between the two recordings, but I don't think it's that big of a difference to cause such an optical illusion with that mound. It's too close to the building-on-rails.
Congrats CGP Grey, I can't believe I watched this entire thing, you are an engagement wizard!
I can watch anything you produce and/or with your narration...including Grey takes out the trash! Looking forward to “Tekoi scenes that didn’t make the cut” and “Tekoi Director’s cut corrected with BTS secrets”. Love your videos!!!
You can totally go to Chernobyl, it's totally safe. There are guided tours. I could be your expert when you make a video about nuclear power.
Are you working in the field or is it a hobby of you?
@@hanzfranz7739 Nice try Russia.
well looky who it is
"safe"
hootis8...the man, the myth, the Legend!
Love the update. My dad was on Polaris submarine and I studied Ohio class subs while in the Navy.
I love that by watching this now I want to support the patreon to watch all of the commentaries, it's like a sample for us to know how patreon is like
Ten minutes in: "I wanna see if I can do a relatively short one of these"
One hour later:
Look at Grey's playlists, this is the shortest directors commentary
A true man of culture includes his Discord in the commentary
hi again
Just hope vc fund doesn't dry up!
It’s members only
I love this kind of urbex and cold war exploration stuff. Recent classified history is so cool.
10:53 - still want to know where the hill came from.
6:36 I think the thought process probably is "If Grey was able to get a key, then anybody can get one if they ask." Not a totally absurd line of reasoning, especially considering that people who've only watched the main video aren't privy to how you got the key. After all, the mere fact of needing a key doesn't really indicate anything. Some businesses require a key to use the bathroom, and yet most people will be given one if they ask. In the absence of any indication to the contrary, it's not unreasonable to assume that this key might be easy to get.
Getting to see this makes me want to be a member now just to get these behind the scenes looks, now that I know what these are like
Hi poor innocent grey who didnt know what was coming
At one point in the 50s, the U.S. filmed a group of bombers flying in a staggered formation. The groups would fly back and pass the camera again to make it look like the U.S. bomber fleet was huge. The ussr believed it and built a huge fleet of their own that ended up being much bigger than the American fleet.
That was a great video Grey, amazing to see all of the behind the scenes work that went into making a video for your channel. The amount of value placed on the 'look' of a graph or feeling evoked by an image is extraordinary to hear from the creators perspective. So much content is taken in relatively passively and it is very meaningful to hear about the parts you kept and unfortunately made the hard decision to cut.
Others may have already mentioned it, but in reference to Chernobyl and safety: Unless you are licking things, or go to some very specific hot spots, its mostly safe now if you stay on the roads or other hard surfaces that have been repeatedly washed down by the weather. Deep in the forests its a few % "hotter" because the cleanup crew couldn't get everything, and there are a few waste dumps where equipment is piled up that are places you dont want to hang around, but in general its basically equivalent to a couple of international flights at most.
Obviously inside the sarcophagus or the hospital basement (where all the clothing of the firefighters was dumped) is not a wise place to go, but the rest, is just a deserted city.
There are plenty of videos of tours showing the rad levels of various places, and its all just fractionally above regular background level.
I noticed and appreciated the fade into the old footage
56:55 Hooray, I feel smart! Although before that moment in the video I would have guessed it spun off your tumbleweed research because of the mess you had to tank through at the beginning of the first video.
Its heartening to know that researching anything to do with ballistic missiles takes forever. Everything is so fractured and disconnected that even trying to find the details paints a blurry picture. But every once and a while you get a cool clear view of history, like the history of TEKOI.
It took me a while to watch this. Much enjoyed.
Light Grey? Will there eventually be 50 shades? I'll show myself out...
GTFO
Animators man, that's some next level visual. Super impressive
I really like listening to videos like this! I'd love to see more!
Yes yes yes
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Yes yes yes
I see checkmark I like
I've rewatched the tekoi video more than a few times because there's something mysterious about the tone Idk why.
glad you put is out
31:00 It's interesting but certainly not unusual, that a lot of these silos as seen from Google Earth, look exactly the same, down to the slight angle of the buildings and precise placement of utility poles, fences and other features.
I looked up the Alliance Tech Systems sporting goods and it's still firearms based; stuff like optics, ammo, and more civilian based guns (like shotguns and rifles used for skeet and target shooting). Just for anyone who was curious
38:10 "Russia, in the meantime, not hampered by having to police the world..." Wow what a quote. Does anyone have the full video from the clip Grey plays here?
51:49 If only he had typed "SLBM" into Google while editing...
Grey is one of the few TH-camrs that could talk about anything and we would listen. The others I know of are Mark Rober, Tom Scott, and Jay Foreman.
When grey uploads when premier is premiering in 12 minutes so we can't watch it all in time. D:
Confound it, CGP Grey! When I first saw the video, I thought to myself "Hey, that would be a fun place to go to; the scenery *kindof* familiar, but I'm sure it's too far away." Now that I know it's in my neck of the woods er, desert, it's all that much more tempting!
(I'm not sure if I'll work up the courage to ask for permission, though, so my shyness, and being able to find the time, are the only obstacles now....)
I just got back from Tekoi. I took my family and my daughter's friend. They loved it.
Looks like Grey gave us this commentary for free and not by accident, as 'penance' for his error.
He also gave us the playlist.
Woo in before realized it's meant to be locked? Dunno. Watching anyway
Shhhhhhhhhhh
Idk maybe he decided to make em all public
DELETE THIS COMMENT
Grey freeboots himself
I went ahead and downloaded it using TH-cam-do just in case it was a mistake and gets made private later >_>
Pretty sure the $640 fine discussed around 47:00 would only have been part of the company's costs for the worker that died. The OSHA fine would have been paid to the government for violating some kind of employee safety rules. It may not have been a severe violation, some jobs are just inherently dangerous, so small issues can be deadly. A settlement to the heirs of the injured worker would be a separate thing. I think somebody mentioned this in the on-screen discord chat log, but it didn't get picked up for further conversation.
Some might remember the Hercules graphics card of the 1980s which was developed by Hercules Computer Technology, a company founded at Hercules/California, the town founded by the explosives manufacturer. So that's the connection.
"My theory is I want to do a relatively short one of these to prove that I can." You failed.
Holy cow, I am so happy to see my money going not just to fund excellent edutainment but to supporting the extensive research and conservation work that make it possible.
It's genuinely heartwarming to hear the awe in your voice at the end when you showed the pictures
"Lucky accident from 30 years ago" -- riiiiight. I'm betting Future Grey invents a time machine, travels back 30 years ago knowing Current Grey would need the footage, and then stopped by 2020 to leave the footage somewhere he knew would be found....
@Grey - Radiation in Chernobyl's exclusion zone is the same as elsewhere on the planet. Inside the coffin (the concrete structure that covers the reactors), it's high.
I'd recommend visiting, it's very interesting.
Grey is such a great person, I thought these were going to stay patreon only.
@@lloydcoe9680 I don't think many people pay a creator for extra content. Most of them do it to support. Creators just add things to show apreciation.
I think that they will be but this wasn't because Grey Was Wrong
@@lloydcoe9680 How did he screw them over? They got all the content they paid for.
I have no idea how I ended up watching this. :D But that was intriguing.
Thank you for making this video public!
I like how the first thing that came out of this huge trip for multiple projects was the thing on tumbleweeds
Can... can we get a video playlist of ALL of these old school vids????? I am loving this directors commentary!!!!
you can if you join his patreon
@@scottmarshall456 In his Patreon pitch, he said dont join if you are still student though.... I listen to papa grey XD
This is great. Thank you for steaming this.
9:30 the background radiation you receve flying from London to Kiev is more than the amount in the safe areas of Priyat
I like that he didn't want to even mention tooele valley (basically pronounced Toe-ill-uh), the middle valley between salt lake and skull valleys.
Thank you for making this public!
It is public now, without membership?
Hercules definitely reminds me of Half Life companies and would easily fit in the lore, along side Aperture and Black Mesa.
Guys - you're totally allowed to watch this. Watch the other video that just got released, "CGP Grey was WRONG"
One hour of solo conversation.
Grey has transcended Hello Internet
Why did you post this twice?
I saw the transition 'live', and it was beautiful.
So ALL this started because of the indian reservation? i thought this was ALL about tumbleweed :(
I think the tumbleweeds came from the Indian reservations
@@karatraimpawe636 OR the indian reservation came from the tumbleweed.
30:44 This is called the "Nuclear Sponge". Basically, the idea is to have actual nuke silos out in the open so the enemy knows they're there and that way they draw fire there in case of a nuclear attack, in the process drawing fire away from more important places. At least that's the theory. The question that arises then is why have these silos at all in populated areas. Anyways, the internet has more info on the matter.
You probably put them in populated areas to lend them credibility.If you've gotten to the point that you are planning the execution of a nuclear war, then civilian causalities aren't really going to bother you.
@@roguishpaladin I mean, if the intention is for them to be destroyed so they divert fire away from other more important stuff, why not put them in the middle of the Nevada desert or similarly uninhabited places? Even more, why have a nuclear sponge at all? Personally I think having a dozen subs is enough, and if that isn't enough, then nothing will be. Because the subs are essentially invisible, they are the real strategic US part of an MAD scenario. They can't really be targeted by an enemy, so no need to divert fire away from those. By having the subs you are already saying "if someone attacks us, we will nonetheless be able to destroy your country and maybe all life on Earth". You don't need a nuke sponge IMO, to me it does not do anything really.
In fact, my very cynical opinion is that the nuke sponge is just a boondoggle. Money for corporate special interests and nothing more. But that's just my opinion, you almost surely have more faith in government and the state than I do, so.
Fun fact: in the Soviet Union they did the exact same thing regarding war propaganda, saying they were the good guys fighting imperialism. Not sure about the hues, but actually red is the color which represent Russia nowadays and the SSSR back in the day, so I suppose they portrayed USA in shades of gray (most Soviet TV sets were black and white, by the way.)
10:21 I want to do a relatively short one.
1.25 hours long.
wait, people thought he took the badge? like
Grey, the guy who hates mementos of all kinds, hates souvenirs, etc... that guy... took a badge?
I REALLY appreciate the little insight you gave us ty!
Watching the entirety of the video to feed the algorithm.
Everyone knows that the best way to keep the peace is to have the biggest gun.
No if you ask nicely
Min 49:45 the footage of cranes dropping huge steel cleavers to chop off the planes is incredible.
Now that I'm here, I'd like to make a recommendation. Put some sort of filter on the audio for the video so it sounds distinct from your commentary voice. Maybe pan it, or make put a high pass filter on it, so it sounds like it's coming from a different place than the commentary.
I'd go into a long explanation of why it helps, but I know you like shorter comments.
In before Grey realises this was supposed to be locked
It wasn’t
Its Not wie supposed to be locked
It's never too late for COFFEE!
coffee?
IN THE UK!?!?
*BARBARIAN*
He's still american I guess.
The U.S. clearly is a bad influence on other countries... I'm ashamed.
THE QUEEN DOES NOT APROVE
@@oracleofdelphi4533 I may trigger some people, but the u.s is a bad country in general. They can't even follow basic rules. (I'm american btw)
idk, I've seen another british youtuber drink coffee everytime so much it turned into a joke on itself
here after grey said 'my video about the supreme court'
RBG is dead thooo so that's a whole new thing
lol
Grey: in a good mood
Grey's phone: how bout no
Welp, adding Wendover UT to my bucket travel list now Grey.
This shall temporarily hold off my need for Hello Internet