I used to get amused, back in the 80s & 90s, by friends buying surplus Mausers in my shop. And soon afterward, tell me of launching the firing pin through a wall.
Nothing is more gut wrenching then when I bought a surplus Yugoslavian police pistol and on the same day had the tiny hammer plunger go flying. Normally I take things like hammer assemblies apart in a container so if something goes flying, it'll be contained, but I let my arrogance get the better of me and did the "I know what I'm doing," mistake. By shear luck I found it.
In terms of a system, especially small machines like firearms, you are just about at the lowest tier of engineering you can get. You don’t have to be a genius to understand how they work.
@@haveaday1812 perhaps but Ian is a really good popularizer knowing how to translate technical terms into mundane explanations without taking shortcuts.
@@DC2022 ... Sooo... He captures the 3D object from multiple angles and in focus. I can mute this video and know how it's logic circuits work, and where it stores energy. You can't close your eyes for it and get the same result. Stevie may be impressed, but nothing after that is True.
Makes sense they did it, that takes mass out of the firing pin which makes it able to get away with a weaker firing pin rebound spring and still be drop safe regardless of the firing pin blocking mechanism that is disengaged by the trigger. No manual safety, but this looks to me to be a very safe pistol. Just follow the number one rule of firearms, aka "Don't put your finger on the trigger unless you wish to fire".
I've had one of these a little over a year. It's the lone duck among Glocks, Sigs, HKs and Berettas in my collection. I have shot this thing a great deal, hitting the 19K mark in a year (it's unreal....how brass flies...). During the first 1000 rounds it malfunctioned semi-regularly. It went from 5 per box of 50 to 1 per box of 50 to 1 per 100 and so on until I don't even remember when it happened, but it stopped being a problem. The other striker fired polymer competition guns I have are a Sig P320 X5 Legion, HK VP9 Match, Glock 17L with a Timney Alpha trigger and a KKM barrel, Shadow Systems DP920L with a Timney Alpha trigger. My Strike One Speed (from here on referred to as SOS) is fully competitive with the above mentioned pistols I own. It's a long sear engagement, like a Sig P320, but it's smooth and 3 lbs. It does have adjustable overtravel. This pistol has modular construction where the FCU can be removed from the polymer grip. It is not as turnkey as a P320, but it can be done. When it's removed the overtravel can be adjusted which also shortens reset. This pistol has excellent accuracy potential, shooting groups close to an inch at 25 yds with some ammo. The sights are nice. I really like it and probably will never part with it. SOME NOTES: I did have to replace the recoil spring and I purchased a "recoil reducing" captive spring made by DPM. It functions fine and it does as promised; it does slightly reduce recoil. -This pistol likes to run a bit on the wet side. -I measured the chamber and barrel, and this pistol is a true Match barrel. The chamber is SAAMI MATCH spec. The majority of ammo will chamber fine. I have mainly had issues with Fiocchi not wanting to fully chamber. -It seems like the people that have problems have not broke them in. There is a lot of machining inside of these. They are simple, but they do need to break in. -Lastly, I have (don't laugh) shot bullseye with this pistol! I and it did very, very well. Using a 124 grain handload this pistol can group at an inch, even less. The trigger lends itself to being managed well. Nice sights (they are adjustable on the Speed). At the $1K mark it's fully competitive with similar guns of similar value in my collection. No part breakages.
@@chevyvet69Lol you’ve never shot one! It has a flared magwell. I reduced the trigger to 2 pounds 5 ounces. I run a steel guide rod from Toni with a15 pound spring. Milled for an sro, slide window cut by SAI. My trigger has a sorta long very light take up with a clean crisp break and very little over travel. The trigger is as close to a 2011 as a striker gets. Also I find this pistol shoots really tight groups.
@@chevyvet69 It's not a MATCH grade gun, true, but it's surprising how good it can shoot. It is fantastic for it's purpose of being a rapid fire competition pistol with a very low bore axis for less muzzle rise. It does very well.
the way the Russian and Italian flags meet up and intersect in the thumbnail is super satisfying and it is actually kind of a cool lag design on its own
As a Brit and not gun aware, apart from a period of my life in the British Army, 30 odd years ago. It astonishes me the amount of knowledge you have on so many different arms. Love all your videos, always very informative.
Cool to see all the striker safety features you'd expect on a Glock executed a little differently here. Everything's there, but unlike a lot of striker-fired pistols on the market, it's not just a clone of a Glock.
I used a Strike One Speed in IPSC competition for a couple of years. It was a nice, pleasant shooting gun. Because of the similarity to the Bergmann, I knew that it would end up in the hands of Ian one day! The gun sometimes had problems extracting the case completely, but it was solved by filing away 0,2mm of material from under the extractor hook, so that the extractor could grab the case rim better. I ended up swapping the Strike One out for a CZ Shadow 2 that I won in a price draw, because I felt like the steel frame of the CZ gave me a bigger benefit that the low bore axis of the Strike One.
If you want to mitigate recoil by moving away from the Browning tilt-barrel design, you can also go with a rotating barrel Beretta Px4 (especially the Langdon Tactical G-SD model with the compensator) or the Grand Power X Calibur. I think the Taurus TS-9 also has a non tilt barrel design, too, albeit it isn’t as nice as the other two.
@@wheelguns4wheelmen802 For me at least it'd be largely for "it's not another tilting barrel" aspect, rather than any real performance gains. I like unusual designs (as long as they still work, hehe). =) Before anyone reads to far into this, none of this is meant to imply there's anything wrong with the tilting barrel system, there's a reason it's by far the most common. But it's a hobby after all and you don't need to always make your decisions on practical reasons. =)
Ian, I would like to thank you for having the best channel, not only on TH-cam but in the media in general. I suffered an injury that has left me with a disability and your show brings me much enjoyment. I learn so much from watching your content. I own a 1942 Longbranch SMLE so you can guess my favourite series 😉. Keep up the great work. GG Australia
Forgotten Weapons Ian rocks. That breakdown is a lot of tiny parts to remember for a working knowledge of inter-functionality. My hats off to you sir, and humble thanks!
@@wraithwyvern528 I live in Italy. We have been forced to register our guns since the 1930s, but we don't pay every year. And we can sell our guns freely among licensed individuals, we just need to report the sale.
@@TraTranc sinceramente è meglio così, che non il mercato incasinato degli USA. Preferisco il ns (imperfetto) sistema di porti d'armi che filtra via la maggior parte dei matti che vorrebbero fare disastri, a differenza degli stati uniti
The speed is a more competition model. Adjustable sight and better trigger. The trigger is really nice. But we have had problems with light strikes on suplus military ammo. Never had that problem with any other gun with that ammo. We have one of those floating around in the family. Were really cheap compared to other pistols and what you got.
From Canada I had one ten plus years ago when they were all hype. Mine was a complete turd. Shot great when it shot which was not very often. The feed ramp to barrel ramp were cut at two differnt angles and had a gap just big enough to cause several bullet noses per mag to bite and get stuck. There was not enough material to grind/hone/polish the only fix would be to weld and that wasn't happening so I sold it.
The corruption story is both kinda wrong and true at the same time. The catch is that the tests were done by TsNIITochMash, who, at the time, presented their own pistol, the SR-1. Guess how that turned out. The official story is that the Strizh has failed the dust test. Though, the joke's on them. Most of the pistols(SR-1, PYa, GSh-18) presented were accepted into service, but never bought in large quantities. Nothing really replaced the Makarov as of yet.
If I had to guess, I'd say that is where the palm-greasing part slots in: pay us some money and we'll accept it for service, but ehh we're not really going to buy large amounts because we already have another under the table deal with TsNITochMash and they are the bigger dog so they get first dibs.
@@DiggingForFacts That's the catch, though - neither of the pistols presented made it in significant quantities. PYas were mostly converted into rubber bullet pistols for the civilian market, the rest didn't go anywhere.
the fact that this pistol with such constructive solutions reached the tests at TSNIITOCHMASH is already an achievement and, apparently, a considerable bribe. An ordinary weapons engineer would only take a look at the device of the Strike pistol, immediately reject it for adoption, without any tests.
There are so much BS about the Nambu Type 94 all based on myths and tall stories from murican soldiers. It was a fully serviceble side arm for military service. Most of the negative info about japanese gear during WW2 is BS. It is like the myth that M1 Carbine and it´s cartridge .30 was so weak that it bounces of people. Pure BS.
@@RiderOftheNorth1968it can be induced to fire without touching the trigger. Acceptable, perhaps, at the time and for the application. Absolutely NOT acceptable today
@@michalsoukup1021 Several VERY modern pistols is knowned for firing when dropped. But they are still in use. Fire when dropped is MUCH worse than fire when pushed on a specific spot, on the side of the pistol, when chambered, cocked and safety off. The reputation is so exaggerated over a, in practice, non issue.
They should have called it Speed Lock A.F. You mentioned a Russian and an Italian. By the looks of it a Swiss watch designer was also involved. Hopefully other companies answer the challenge and start drowning Ian in free cool stuff.
For some reason this pistol lives rent free in my head from around 2012-2013, when I first read about it in Special Ops magazine. Just wanted to add one info - the early production models already on the market (if I recall correctly russian made) had an issue of locking block's arms breaking. And not even on +P+ ammo, just straight off the shelf ammo.
>"It first got really public notice in 2013 when Larry Vickers did a video in Russia . . . " It was in 2014, and it was one of the items that the DOJ charged Vickers for (knowingly violating sanctions).
@@somersethuscarl2938 yeah, the timeline says that the former CZ employees that started Laugo probably saw this gun in 2012 and also the Mateba/Chiappa revolvers and the low bore axis hype, to create an upside down P7 on a CZ75 frame for the lowest possible bore axis.
I honestly would not have even given this thing a look. Glad you were able to share it today. Also, I wonder what other goodies Ian keeps laying around beside him and out of view if he just happen to have both a Bergmann and a Nambu in easy reach.
I never saw a "Strike" disassembled before. Ian talked me out of ever buying one, it's too busy. And, doesn't that tuning fork extractor remind you of the Jennings .22 extractor? Yes, Jennings was my first, almost turned me into an anti-gunner.
It's intriguing to me how elegant the main operating system is, but then how fiddly and almost cumbersome the striker group is. It clearly works, but the contrast is really striking.
It probably wouldn't be widely adopted anyway. And for russian police Makarov is a perfectly fine pistol since russian police rarely ever uses guns and when they do Makarov is fine for it's role as an emergency weapon. If the police knows they could face armed suspect they usually use AK 74u instead of Makarov.
@@wraithwyvern528 it is not better. It is much more complex = more expensive and harder to maintain. It is also bigger. It is probably a better shooting gun but as a service pistol I'll take Makarov over this boutique contraption any day.
@@tutzdesYT man, you must think everyone should just carry a Hi point because it's simpler than a Glock. And you've never shot and maintained a Makarov. The hammer system is way more complex than the striker system on the arsenal, and the sights are way too small to be used quickly. Also the capacity advantage of a double stack and not having a heel release makes shooting way better. And the Makarov is also heavier than the Arsenal, even though it's smaller.
I'm Italian and here it is a quite popular gun, I shooted it, both an early version and a late version, and every time I really tempted to buy one. Even in the base model the trigger is really good, the recoil is really flat, the only flaw is that you have to be sure not to touch the slide with the thumb, otherwise you will cause a failure to feed.
Agreed; I can't shake the feeling that there's a lot of stuff in there which works great when new, but isn't going to tolerate age and/or wear very well.
as I know Arsenal Trade Mark already had been registered on the U.S. territory that is why they had to register another TM like Archon to move on US market
I'm surprised that no one has copied the trigger linkage system from the Hi-Power, it's quite simple and compact, and was originally designed for a striker fired system in the early model Grand Rendement.
@@fmlymn1 It's not amazing, but it's at least better than a glock trigger. And the main point would be in compactness, not trying to get the absolute best trigger.
I shoot this pistol in USPSA carry optics division. I use a 15 pound Toni recoil spring with a steel Toni guide rod. I have my own trigger springs that make the trigger 2 pounds 5 ounces, take up is light wall is crisp and over travel is as short as a very good 2011 trigger. The frame is flared like a mag well, the controls are excellent and the gun is very accurate with good ammo. I recommend getting the speed variant or above as the base version’s trigger is very mushy. I’ve got 8k on mine with zero issues. The ejector looks fragile but so far mine hasn’t broken. The complex trigger design is what makes it so good and even with such a light trigger the safeties all still work. Also the recoil system is shorter making the slide return quicker, it shoots very fast and flat.
I remember when these hit the market, seemed like they made a huge but short-lived splash. When canik's were cheap, they seemed to follow right after this one and I'd not seen anything about them (Arsenal Strikes that is) again until today. Definitely had not seen the internals to them, which were worth the watch alone.
Anddd it is not suitable for duty carry anyway. Later Russia jailed the police general and now they issue polive with Mp443, same with military standard pistol. The whole project to replace Makarov was a corruption scheme in the first place. In reality, it make no sense for Russia police to contract the company outside of Russia to manufacture firearms for their police...
Weird interpretation. Arsenal partnered with the Russian because he could use his connections to get Russian police to buy it. That is corruption. The failure of their original plan and shifting to the commercial market created all the current advances in the design.
Hum, striker assembly seems complicated at first, but when I think about it, it is just that most systems you do not fully take everything apart like that. This just gives you more access to all the parts then most. Maybe...2 parts more then average. I have not fired THIS version but I have fired other versions of this gun and, seems okay. I was worried the little hump at the web of your hand would be uncomfortable, but seems to be fine. Seems like a good pistol. Shame everyone involved seems to have had a rough time of it.
Fun fact. For some weird reason it another, if you got an archon type B or a strike one and something goes wrong with them, for some bizarre reason, they still honor each other's warranties.
I never hold first mag malfunctions against a new pistol. For example, when Lipsey's partnered with Glock for their Gen1 P80/G17 reproductions, I ordered a few (wanted to shoot a couple and keep another couple mint). The G17 failed twice in the first mag in a similar fashion as this video, and this is Glock we're talking about. Flawless function afterward. I've had other pistols with first mag or needing even longer break-in periods, but that G17 was the most egregious.
I have two first gen Strike Ones. The hot ammo is more appropriate as that is close to the Russian ammo. With the adjustable spring kit, you can up the recoil a bit and get smoother feed with regular 9mm ammo.
The muzzle flip seemed to be different from conventional Browning systems. That is the most unique modern pistol you've shown since the Alien. Goes to show there's more than one way to skin a cat.
Ian, pull the barrel fwd with your other hand to demonstrate the locking profiles better. The bullet forcing out the barrel is what locks the mechanism. See suppressor booster assemblies
I have shot couple hundred rounds through one of these and i have to say i was... unimpressed. To me it felt significantly worse to shoot compared to a Glock 17. I have a hard time saying why exactly, i suspect the heavier slide in combination with the rather slippery grip texture just made the gun feel just jumpier than the Glock. The trigger is also not a straight improvement, it's certainly lighter than a Glock but felt more mushy to me.
I would love to see how that performs side by side vs a Glock 17 or some such. Lots of companies make lots of claims of improvement but I have personally found very few that can actually deliver unless what they actually did was make the gun VERY heavy
That low bore axis would work well as a compact 30 super carry pistol. Especially if the company is working with small production volumes, they could basically own a big chunk of a niche category and build a reputation.
The Arsenal Strike One is just a very exquisite pistol to look at, it looks very ergonomic and elegant. I'm glad it was both Italian and Russian even though the designers had a falling out and decided to make their own variations.
On the Russian internet, it's generally described as an excellent sporting gun but not really a military/police gun. In fact, I've seen a report-I don't know how true-that in official tests, it only showed two defects. One was the apparition of cracks in the handle (I guess a solveable problem from a new gun), and that the reliability dropped hard when dirty/dry/etc, which was unacceptable to the military. This last sounds believable, and it seems reasonable it could be rejected on that ground.
18:35 "The kind of internal safety all modern firearms have." That's really throwing some shade on the 2011's, especially Staccatos, given Ben Stoeger's recent videos.
Wow I can see why this would be a police weapon and not military; you'd want a well lit indoor table with a blanket over it when you stripped and cleaned it.
Another great video as always. I’ve been a fan of the strike one since the Larry vickers video. I currently have the gen 1 archon type b. You’re more than welcome to borrow it to do a vs video. Also. There is a relatively new strike 2 out. 4” barrel aimed for conceal carry. I plan on getting the strike two soon and saving for the strike one ergal pro. Keep up the great content!
Good engineer: makes machine that works well. Great engineer: makes machine that works well with half as many parts. It really looks like this pistol needs a great engineer to look at its striker and firing mechanism.
When this first came out I was completely obsessed with it. Was number 1 on my list. I wish it did better. I hear the weird spine under the tang/beavertail is awkward and annoying. Maybe it was hype but I would still love to try one some day. I hope it gets continued support and improvements.
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The amount of flex just causally whipping out a Bergmann and a Nambu
After the Infamous Month, we should all know that Ian is never far from an obscure Bergmann.
💯🎯
@davidhansen5067 my favourite month
Funny I was just thinking that exact thing
Ian keeps those on him just for rebuttal purposes
I always love when Ian says "or it *will* go flying across the room", because you know you're hearing the voice of experience.
I used to get amused, back in the 80s & 90s, by friends buying surplus Mausers in my shop. And soon afterward, tell me of launching the firing pin through a wall.
"Across the room" is still much better than "across the meadow".
But we did get the bushing back.
And he always says nice when he sees a captive recoil spring
Nothing is more gut wrenching then when I bought a surplus Yugoslavian police pistol and on the same day had the tiny hammer plunger go flying. Normally I take things like hammer assemblies apart in a container so if something goes flying, it'll be contained, but I let my arrogance get the better of me and did the "I know what I'm doing," mistake.
By shear luck I found it.
@xxAntiOtakuxx missed a chance for a seer luck joke
Just so we're clear, the Bermann and Nambu weren't under the table: Ian just self-actualised them into existence on demand.
Video game characters have Hammer Space.
Gun Jesus has Gun Space.
Duh 🙄
Gun Jesus giveth and Gun Jesus, he taketh away
I was under the impression Ian could only will French arms and ammo into existence. I guess I should have known better. 😁
He is the GUN MATERIALIZER
"Mr. McCollum, we'd like to make a video about our modern competition pistol."
"Eeeeehn"
"It's a Bergmann."
Nien, Hugo Borschardt's toggle lock mien Herr. Ian's favorite toggle lock? I believe it's a ginormous panzerbüchse 39.
I'm impressed how Ian can explain a complicated system, to make it understandable to a layman.
In terms of a system, especially small machines like firearms, you are just about at the lowest tier of engineering you can get. You don’t have to be a genius to understand how they work.
@@haveaday1812 perhaps but Ian is a really good popularizer knowing how to translate technical terms into mundane explanations without taking shortcuts.
@@DC2022 ... Sooo...
He captures the 3D object from multiple angles and in focus.
I can mute this video and know how it's logic circuits work, and where it stores energy.
You can't close your eyes for it and get the same result.
Stevie may be impressed, but nothing after that is True.
That's one of the wonders of Gun Jesus.
@@haveaday1812 Simplicity is the highest form of sophistication. Now, back down...
Love how Ian just casually pulls other guns from under the table 😂
I wouldn't try and rob a Kwik-E-Mart Ian is working at, you never know what he's gonna pull out from under the counter...
Gun Jesus sh*t
@@rztrzt what about the panzerbusch in his pants!
C'mon he can turn water into guns.
Good, but not quite, Paul Harrell pulling out half a dozen guns or more from his pockets.
I’m impressed with the fact they fluted the firing pin/ striker assembly. To do that machining says something overall.
They wanted to make the lightest possible firing for a very short trigger-to-primer time.
That the entire carriage was a leftover from a previous iteration and they had to compensate by adding speed holes.
Makes sense they did it, that takes mass out of the firing pin which makes it able to get away with a weaker firing pin rebound spring and still be drop safe regardless of the firing pin blocking mechanism that is disengaged by the trigger.
No manual safety, but this looks to me to be a very safe pistol. Just follow the number one rule of firearms, aka "Don't put your finger on the trigger unless you wish to fire".
I've had one of these a little over a year. It's the lone duck among Glocks, Sigs, HKs and Berettas in my collection. I have shot this thing a great deal, hitting the 19K mark in a year (it's unreal....how brass flies...). During the first 1000 rounds it malfunctioned semi-regularly. It went from 5 per box of 50 to 1 per box of 50 to 1 per 100 and so on until I don't even remember when it happened, but it stopped being a problem. The other striker fired polymer competition guns I have are a Sig P320 X5 Legion, HK VP9 Match, Glock 17L with a Timney Alpha trigger and a KKM barrel, Shadow Systems DP920L with a Timney Alpha trigger.
My Strike One Speed (from here on referred to as SOS) is fully competitive with the above mentioned pistols I own. It's a long sear engagement, like a Sig P320, but it's smooth and 3 lbs. It does have adjustable overtravel. This pistol has modular construction where the FCU can be removed from the polymer grip. It is not as turnkey as a P320, but it can be done. When it's removed the overtravel can be adjusted which also shortens reset. This pistol has excellent accuracy potential, shooting groups close to an inch at 25 yds with some ammo. The sights are nice. I really like it and probably will never part with it.
SOME NOTES: I did have to replace the recoil spring and I purchased a "recoil reducing" captive spring made by DPM. It functions fine and it does as promised; it does slightly reduce recoil.
-This pistol likes to run a bit on the wet side.
-I measured the chamber and barrel, and this pistol is a true Match barrel. The chamber is SAAMI MATCH spec. The majority of ammo will chamber fine. I have mainly had issues with Fiocchi not wanting to fully chamber.
-It seems like the people that have problems have not broke them in. There is a lot of machining inside of these. They are simple, but they do need to break in.
-Lastly, I have (don't laugh) shot bullseye with this pistol! I and it did very, very well. Using a 124 grain handload this pistol can group at an inch, even less. The trigger lends itself to being managed well. Nice sights (they are adjustable on the Speed). At the $1K mark it's fully competitive with similar guns of similar value in my collection. No part breakages.
That's a lot of great information you have at the end of the day. This pistol is not a match grade gun. It's a service pistol
@@chevyvet69Lol you’ve never shot one! It has a flared magwell. I reduced the trigger to 2 pounds 5 ounces. I run a steel guide rod from Toni with a15 pound spring. Milled for an sro, slide window cut by SAI. My trigger has a sorta long very light take up with a clean crisp break and very little over travel. The trigger is as close to a 2011 as a striker gets. Also I find this pistol shoots really tight groups.
@@chevyvet69 It's not a MATCH grade gun, true, but it's surprising how good it can shoot. It is fantastic for it's purpose of being a rapid fire competition pistol with a very low bore axis for less muzzle rise. It does very well.
I had one of these years ago. Loved it. Wish I still had it.
Then move over there
@@chiapets2594 what a bonehead thing to say 😂
what happened? sold it?
@kju520 I guess he doesn't enjoy some of the best AK content on the TH-cam. Different strokes, or maybe just a stroke 🤔
@@chiapets2594it's a commercial product and available in the United States. No need to move. Cry more.
the way the Russian and Italian flags meet up and intersect in the thumbnail is super satisfying and it is actually kind of a cool lag design on its own
I saw an Italian fighter fighting for Russia in Ukraine with such a flag on his shoulder
Maybe Putin will make it the flag of one of his breakaway republics if that guy does really good
@@nurnburgring3102he wasn't making a political statement, dumb ass.
@@nurnburgring3102 80% of the comments on this comments section are low key anti-russian
@01-uy3of well the author of the video itself is obviously brainlessly anti-Russian. He kinda prides himself of being a bot. So no surprise there.
As a Brit and not gun aware, apart from a period of my life in the British Army, 30 odd years ago. It astonishes me the amount of knowledge you have on so many different arms. Love all your videos, always very informative.
Cool to see all the striker safety features you'd expect on a Glock executed a little differently here. Everything's there, but unlike a lot of striker-fired pistols on the market, it's not just a clone of a Glock.
I have never tripped across a FW video so fast before.
Me neither
Why? Is just a Russian pistol, there not remarkable or special.
@@Theiron2142 - I just happened to open youtube when the video said "10 seconds ago." I was only mildly interested in the pistol. It was neat.
@@Verbose_Mode It does look cool, i wonder why more Russian pistols arnt sold in the states, you would think they would want the extra bank.
@@Theiron2142 All the more reason not to buy one atm...
American Precision Firearms: “But you HAVE heard of me!”
They have got to be the worst importer I have ever heard of.
Half expected their inventory to be made of wood.
I have a Strike One and find it to be a nice pistol. Trigger pull is light and smooth and the low bore axis make for little muzzle flip.
Wow, a striker fired plastic fantastic with an actually original and cool design. Awesome! Glad you decided to make this video
Finally, more Bergmann content!
I used a Strike One Speed in IPSC competition for a couple of years. It was a nice, pleasant shooting gun.
Because of the similarity to the Bergmann, I knew that it would end up in the hands of Ian one day!
The gun sometimes had problems extracting the case completely, but it was solved by filing away 0,2mm of material from under the extractor hook, so that the extractor could grab the case rim better.
I ended up swapping the Strike One out for a CZ Shadow 2 that I won in a price draw, because I felt like the steel frame of the CZ gave me a bigger benefit that the low bore axis of the Strike One.
I love the Browning tilting barrel system but, this just seems so simple and elegant.
Agreed.
Fortunately they put all the complexity in the trigger/striker system instead. :P
@nextlifeonearth not really any more complicated than a glock. . . And a way better trigger than the glock
Sone people never learned to NOT plaster text all over the firearm. 🤦♂️
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Text on gun = smaller & cheaper paper manual?
@xxxlonewolf49 òr is it that technical branch does not use manuals, they just look at the "gun", sometimes straight down the barrel like a cartoon.
@@JohnMoses1897 very possible
GRIP ZONE!!!
Want a low bore axis pistol with a nice trigger, that's mechanically interesting, but can't afford the Laugo? This seems like a legit option. Nice!
My LGS has them for $1500 - $2500. The trigger is nice, but fit and finish is not really different than a Glock.
@@WindowsXP-SP3 I'm seeing the base models go for 780 USD in online shops, 1500-2500 sounds like too much if it isn't a tricked out version.
If you want to mitigate recoil by moving away from the Browning tilt-barrel design, you can also go with a rotating barrel Beretta Px4 (especially the Langdon Tactical G-SD model with the compensator) or the Grand Power X Calibur. I think the Taurus TS-9 also has a non tilt barrel design, too, albeit it isn’t as nice as the other two.
@@wheelguns4wheelmen802 For me at least it'd be largely for "it's not another tilting barrel" aspect, rather than any real performance gains. I like unusual designs (as long as they still work, hehe). =)
Before anyone reads to far into this, none of this is meant to imply there's anything wrong with the tilting barrel system, there's a reason it's by far the most common. But it's a hobby after all and you don't need to always make your decisions on practical reasons. =)
Don't forget the Rock Island Armory 5.0...
I wouldn't try and rob a Kwik-E-Mart Ian is working at, you never know what he's gonna pull out from under the counter...
Yep, anything from a Zip22 to a fricking rocket grenade launcher. He even has field artillery if you make it to the parking lot.
Probably something French.
@@jeff7.629Surely not his baguette, though! 😮 mon dieu...
You lost me.
There is something at your favorite store worth Stealing or Defending, with Lethal Force?
It might even be operated by a lanyard 😅
Ian, I would like to thank you for having the best channel, not only on TH-cam but in the media in general. I suffered an injury that has left me with a disability and your show brings me much enjoyment. I learn so much from watching your content. I own a 1942 Longbranch SMLE so you can guess my favourite series 😉. Keep up the great work. GG Australia
That Bergmann is in beautiful shape.
Arsenal also makes the only variant of the AK-47 and AK-74 that is legal to own for private gun owners in Norway.
You mean a Bulgarian Arsenal aren't you?
@@vig237 What do you mean 'a' Arsenal, I'm talking about 'the' Arsenal, as in the company Arsenal out of Las Vegas
Forgotten Weapons Ian rocks. That breakdown is a lot of tiny parts to remember for a working knowledge of inter-functionality. My hats off to you sir, and humble thanks!
whatching Ian describing the history and functioning of the pistol i own... awesome
I had to go back and rewatch the entire Bergmann series. Thanks Ian.
I shot the Archon version a while back. All I remember is that the grip texture reminded me of what it's like to step on Legos.
😂 definitely needs talon grips
Ian actually has a portal under the desk that goes directly to the British Armory
Jonathan Ferguson is on the other side handing them to Ian
Owned one for ten years. Had to give it away early this year out of need for cash. Great gun.
How many rounds did you put through it? Just wondering how durable it is with all the tiny bits in there 🤔
@@ducembarr7057 I've owned it for a decade. The round count was in the thousands. And I am in touch with the new owner who's still using it.
Do you live somewhere where you have to pay for firearm registration every year or was it actually more like, you know, a sale?
@@wraithwyvern528 I live in Italy. We have been forced to register our guns since the 1930s, but we don't pay every year. And we can sell our guns freely among licensed individuals, we just need to report the sale.
@@TraTranc sinceramente è meglio così, che non il mercato incasinato degli USA.
Preferisco il ns (imperfetto) sistema di porti d'armi che filtra via la maggior parte dei matti che vorrebbero fare disastri, a differenza degli stati uniti
The speed is a more competition model. Adjustable sight and better trigger. The trigger is really nice. But we have had problems with light strikes on suplus military ammo. Never had that problem with any other gun with that ammo.
We have one of those floating around in the family. Were really cheap compared to other pistols and what you got.
Those tiny little tabs make me nervous, but the sideways pivot is neat.
From Canada I had one ten plus years ago when they were all hype.
Mine was a complete turd. Shot great when it shot which was not very often. The feed ramp to barrel ramp were cut at two differnt angles and had a gap just big enough to cause several bullet noses per mag to bite and get stuck. There was not enough material to grind/hone/polish the only fix would be to weld and that wasn't happening so I sold it.
Used the Archon Type B as my duty sidearm for awhile. Fantastic design. Wish more people knew about these guns.
they're just pricey compared to a Glock and it's knock-offs
@@Jessersadler That’s because it’s not a Glock. You get more out of an Archon than a Glock. Better features. Better accuracy and shoot-ability.
@@Jessersadler That’s because they’re not Glocks. They’re better
@darklyripley6138 Completely agree. . . plus there's a ton of Glock fan boys out there
The corruption story is both kinda wrong and true at the same time.
The catch is that the tests were done by TsNIITochMash, who, at the time, presented their own pistol, the SR-1. Guess how that turned out. The official story is that the Strizh has failed the dust test.
Though, the joke's on them. Most of the pistols(SR-1, PYa, GSh-18) presented were accepted into service, but never bought in large quantities. Nothing really replaced the Makarov as of yet.
If I had to guess, I'd say that is where the palm-greasing part slots in: pay us some money and we'll accept it for service, but ehh we're not really going to buy large amounts because we already have another under the table deal with TsNITochMash and they are the bigger dog so they get first dibs.
@@DiggingForFacts That's the catch, though - neither of the pistols presented made it in significant quantities. PYas were mostly converted into rubber bullet pistols for the civilian market, the rest didn't go anywhere.
the fact that this pistol with such constructive solutions reached the tests at TSNIITOCHMASH is already an achievement and, apparently, a considerable bribe. An ordinary weapons engineer would only take a look at the device of the Strike pistol, immediately reject it for adoption, without any tests.
"It's fairly reminiscent of a system like the Bergmann 1910"
Oh! :O
"Or, perhaps even the Nambu Type 94"
Oh... :(
Pretty cool how he pulls out both though.
Then again, what more should I have expected from Ian?
@@gonzodemon2087@gonzodemon2087 To be fair, they were very convincing, and I was very drunk, BUT I kept my socks on, so it was ok.
There are so much BS about the Nambu Type 94 all based on myths and tall stories from murican soldiers. It was a fully serviceble side arm for military service. Most of the negative info about japanese gear during WW2 is BS. It is like the myth that M1 Carbine and it´s cartridge .30 was so weak that it bounces of people. Pure BS.
@@RiderOftheNorth1968it can be induced to fire without touching the trigger. Acceptable, perhaps, at the time and for the application. Absolutely NOT acceptable today
@@michalsoukup1021 Several VERY modern pistols is knowned for firing when dropped. But they are still in use. Fire when dropped is MUCH worse than fire when pushed on a specific spot, on the side of the pistol, when chambered, cocked and safety off. The reputation is so exaggerated over a, in practice, non issue.
That striker system IS rather fussy, while the barrel lockup is elegantly simple. Dual personality.
The strike system actually makes the trigger phenomenal. So while maybe it’s fussy, it keeps it from being Glock like.
Ian’s lap never ceases to surprise me
That's what she said
They should have called it Speed Lock A.F.
You mentioned a Russian and an Italian.
By the looks of it a Swiss watch designer was also involved.
Hopefully other companies answer the challenge and start drowning Ian in free cool stuff.
For some reason this pistol lives rent free in my head from around 2012-2013, when I first read about it in Special Ops magazine.
Just wanted to add one info - the early production models already on the market (if I recall correctly russian made) had an issue of locking block's arms breaking. And not even on +P+ ammo, just straight off the shelf ammo.
The internals to the back end of the slide look remarkably like the parts in the back end of an ERMA .22LR Luger copy I just got.
>"It first got really public notice in 2013 when Larry Vickers did a video in Russia . . . "
It was in 2014, and it was one of the items that the DOJ charged Vickers for (knowingly violating sanctions).
You a /k/ or /fit/ guy?
@@D00dmandefinetly /pol/
Has a bit of that Laugo Alien pistol vibe going on.
Yep ... or as this is a tiny bit earlier, the other way around?
@@somersethuscarl2938 yeah, the timeline says that the former CZ employees that started Laugo probably saw this gun in 2012 and also the Mateba/Chiappa revolvers and the low bore axis hype, to create an upside down P7 on a CZ75 frame for the lowest possible bore axis.
@@texasranger24 Never knew that. Cheers
and "cheaper"
I honestly would not have even given this thing a look. Glad you were able to share it today. Also, I wonder what other goodies Ian keeps laying around beside him and out of view if he just happen to have both a Bergmann and a Nambu in easy reach.
The cogniceti should always inquire of Ian, "what's in your pocket? sir"
Probably something French
He's actually recording in that "guns, lots of guns" room from _The Matrix._
Finally. A modern locked breach pistol that is not a Browning tilting barrel. Very cool.
Now i want a comparison video between this, the new gen 2 Archon Type B / D, and maybe even the new gun by Nicola Bandini who now has the XDB Rapax.
4:00 The same goes everywhere, even in the US. And maybe especially in the US.
I never saw a "Strike" disassembled before. Ian talked me out of ever buying one, it's too busy. And, doesn't that tuning fork extractor remind you of the Jennings .22 extractor? Yes, Jennings was my first, almost turned me into an anti-gunner.
It's intriguing to me how elegant the main operating system is, but then how fiddly and almost cumbersome the striker group is. It clearly works, but the contrast is really striking.
I still have my FDE strike one I purchased in 2014 when they were first offered. Great shooter and no issues.
That's a really cool pistol. Love to see some other design, yet it's kept simple and that low profile slide
It probably wouldn't be widely adopted anyway. And for russian police Makarov is a perfectly fine pistol since russian police rarely ever uses guns and when they do Makarov is fine for it's role as an emergency weapon. If the police knows they could face armed suspect they usually use AK 74u instead of Makarov.
Yeah, the Russian police weapon of choice is a rubber hose, AFTER the suspect has been arrested.
There's nothing wrong with just getting something better than you have now. Preferably if you can afford it.
@@wraithwyvern528 it is not better. It is much more complex = more expensive and harder to maintain. It is also bigger. It is probably a better shooting gun but as a service pistol I'll take Makarov over this boutique contraption any day.
@@wraithwyvern528it's not better
@@tutzdesYT man, you must think everyone should just carry a Hi point because it's simpler than a Glock. And you've never shot and maintained a Makarov. The hammer system is way more complex than the striker system on the arsenal, and the sights are way too small to be used quickly. Also the capacity advantage of a double stack and not having a heel release makes shooting way better. And the Makarov is also heavier than the Arsenal, even though it's smaller.
I'm Italian and here it is a quite popular gun, I shooted it, both an early version and a late version, and every time I really tempted to buy one. Even in the base model the trigger is really good, the recoil is really flat, the only flaw is that you have to be sure not to touch the slide with the thumb, otherwise you will cause a failure to feed.
Im not sure if i like the striker mechanism. Seems overcomplicated and a bit underbuilt in my opinion. But the idea is great
Agreed; I can't shake the feeling that there's a lot of stuff in there which works great when new, but isn't going to tolerate age and/or wear very well.
Great work Ian.
Fiddiley bits. Maxed
Way too many hiccups. Fail.!!!
23:08 and the price doubles on GB!
as I know Arsenal Trade Mark already had been registered on the U.S. territory that is why they had to register another TM like Archon to move on US market
I have 2 of them. Love this gun
Well I wanted to see how much fun it was going to be to get all those striker and extractor bits back into the pistol with only two hands.
I'm surprised that no one has copied the trigger linkage system from the Hi-Power, it's quite simple and compact, and was originally designed for a striker fired system in the early model Grand Rendement.
BHP is not exactly known for being a great trigger even after the magazine disconnect is removed
@@fmlymn1 It's not amazing, but it's at least better than a glock trigger. And the main point would be in compactness, not trying to get the absolute best trigger.
I shoot this pistol in USPSA carry optics division. I use a 15 pound Toni recoil spring with a steel Toni guide rod. I have my own trigger springs that make the trigger 2 pounds 5 ounces, take up is light wall is crisp and over travel is as short as a very good 2011 trigger. The frame is flared like a mag well, the controls are excellent and the gun is very accurate with good ammo. I recommend getting the speed variant or above as the base version’s trigger is very mushy. I’ve got 8k on mine with zero issues. The ejector looks fragile but so far mine hasn’t broken. The complex trigger design is what makes it so good and even with such a light trigger the safeties all still work. Also the recoil system is shorter making the slide return quicker, it shoots very fast and flat.
You can see the slide speed in the video.
I remember when these hit the market, seemed like they made a huge but short-lived splash. When canik's were cheap, they seemed to follow right after this one and I'd not seen anything about them (Arsenal Strikes that is) again until today. Definitely had not seen the internals to them, which were worth the watch alone.
Kahr pistols all need several rounds to begin with. This pistol might be just like a Kahr, requiring a break in to run 100 percent.
Mine didn't run more reliably after breaking it in. It had extraction issues that was solved by modifying the extractor slightly.
That does look like a complicated and delicate system.
How corruption gets in the way of advancement.
Anddd it is not suitable for duty carry anyway. Later Russia jailed the police general and now they issue polive with Mp443, same with military standard pistol.
The whole project to replace Makarov was a corruption scheme in the first place.
In reality, it make no sense for Russia police to contract the company outside of Russia to manufacture firearms for their police...
Weird interpretation. Arsenal partnered with the Russian because he could use his connections to get Russian police to buy it. That is corruption. The failure of their original plan and shifting to the commercial market created all the current advances in the design.
ok that's actually quite a slick "little" (figuratively) number
Hum, striker assembly seems complicated at first, but when I think about it, it is just that most systems you do not fully take everything apart like that. This just gives you more access to all the parts then most. Maybe...2 parts more then average.
I have not fired THIS version but I have fired other versions of this gun and, seems okay. I was worried the little hump at the web of your hand would be uncomfortable, but seems to be fine. Seems like a good pistol. Shame everyone involved seems to have had a rough time of it.
Fun fact. For some weird reason it another, if you got an archon type B or a strike one and something goes wrong with them, for some bizarre reason, they still honor each other's warranties.
I never hold first mag malfunctions against a new pistol. For example, when Lipsey's partnered with Glock for their Gen1 P80/G17 reproductions, I ordered a few (wanted to shoot a couple and keep another couple mint). The G17 failed twice in the first mag in a similar fashion as this video, and this is Glock we're talking about. Flawless function afterward. I've had other pistols with first mag or needing even longer break-in periods, but that G17 was the most egregious.
3:58 Its not just Russia... if you dont want to grind the gears, you gotta lubricate...
Yup just like how sig sauer won the recent army pistol and rifle bid
That is a fascinating design. I wonder what a major arms manufacturer could do if they licensed the design.
I have two first gen Strike Ones. The hot ammo is more appropriate as that is close to the Russian ammo. With the adjustable spring kit, you can up the recoil a bit and get smoother feed with regular 9mm ammo.
The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
Priceless
The muzzle flip seemed to be different from conventional Browning systems. That is the most unique modern pistol you've shown since the Alien. Goes to show there's more than one way to skin a cat.
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Ian, pull the barrel fwd with your other hand to demonstrate the locking profiles better. The bullet forcing out the barrel is what locks the mechanism.
See suppressor booster assemblies
I have shot couple hundred rounds through one of these and i have to say i was... unimpressed. To me it felt significantly worse to shoot compared to a Glock 17. I have a hard time saying why exactly, i suspect the heavier slide in combination with the rather slippery grip texture just made the gun feel just jumpier than the Glock. The trigger is also not a straight improvement, it's certainly lighter than a Glock but felt more mushy to me.
I wouldn't want to reassemble that striker mechanism.
I would love to see how that performs side by side vs a Glock 17 or some such. Lots of companies make lots of claims of improvement but I have personally found very few that can actually deliver unless what they actually did was make the gun VERY heavy
Thanks for the presentation
How much extra to have one not covered in fifty different and corny names and logos?
"Strike One Power Speed Ultimate Pro Elite Mega S Turbo"
Its not even Tactical?
It would be great if there was a short, concise series of videos on the Bergmann pistols :)
That low bore axis would work well as a compact 30 super carry pistol. Especially if the company is working with small production volumes, they could basically own a big chunk of a niche category and build a reputation.
The Arsenal Strike One is just a very exquisite pistol to look at, it looks very ergonomic and elegant. I'm glad it was both Italian and Russian even though the designers had a falling out and decided to make their own variations.
On the Russian internet, it's generally described as an excellent sporting gun but not really a military/police gun. In fact, I've seen a report-I don't know how true-that in official tests, it only showed two defects. One was the apparition of cracks in the handle (I guess a solveable problem from a new gun), and that the reliability dropped hard when dirty/dry/etc, which was unacceptable to the military. This last sounds believable, and it seems reasonable it could be rejected on that ground.
That's an elegant locking mechanism; a lot of advantages with no obvious disadvantages. I wonder why it hasn't been used by another manufacturer.
I like to think Ian keeps the Bergmann and Nambu on him at all times
Everyday carry. :3
Interesting! I remember seeing these a long time ago, but never seen a deep dive.
I owe one of this. Neat gun.
18:35 "The kind of internal safety all modern firearms have."
That's really throwing some shade on the 2011's, especially Staccatos, given Ben Stoeger's recent videos.
Wow I can see why this would be a police weapon and not military; you'd want a well lit indoor table with a blanket over it when you stripped and cleaned it.
Can you make a Video about Colt Goverment Model Competition Series 5" ??
As cool as the mechanical breakdowns are, I'm here for the production/ development intrigue. Keep that backroom tea coming Ian.
That flag in the thumbnail is cool as hell
Another great video as always. I’ve been a fan of the strike one since the Larry vickers video. I currently have the gen 1 archon type b. You’re more than welcome to borrow it to do a vs video. Also. There is a relatively new strike 2 out. 4” barrel aimed for conceal carry. I plan on getting the strike two soon and saving for the strike one ergal pro. Keep up the great content!
Is this handgun a solution in search of a problem? Opinions?
Good engineer: makes machine that works well. Great engineer: makes machine that works well with half as many parts. It really looks like this pistol needs a great engineer to look at its striker and firing mechanism.
When this first came out I was completely obsessed with it. Was number 1 on my list. I wish it did better. I hear the weird spine under the tang/beavertail is awkward and annoying. Maybe it was hype but I would still love to try one some day. I hope it gets continued support and improvements.
I don't notice it all.