although the old bolt actions have a rather... "repetitive silhouette", i find them pretty endearing over modern rifles (well, 21st century ones). probably because they have the wood and the curves lol
I love integral suppressors and how they're design. They just blend into the given 'style' (for lack of a better word) of certain guns like the MP5SD and the Makarov PB. They just work.
@@paleoph6168 Don't worry we're 63 peoples to understand the intent of your comment, just that there is always that one guy that takes everything literally.
I think you're wrong. I have never heard of anyone pressing this button thinking it was the magazine release button. if you are stupid then you don’t have to think that everyone around you is stupid
@@paulketchupwitheverything767 Not well. And it wasn't required to. For an intelligence service replacing (a very limited number of) plastic grips due to practice wear is absolutely nothing compared to the cost of injecting an agent in a position where this weapon would be used.
@@andersjjensen But again imagine this very costly agent is doing his very costly wet field work overseas and his gun fails mid operation because its mainspring is housed in what i assume thin textolite grip. Big international yikes.
I've been waiting for this video since forever. I really love that gun. Something very interesting you forgot to mention is that even though it's integrally suppressed, it can still fire and function perfectly without the suppressor part (unlike several integrally suppressed guns). They even made holsters that would store the suppressor part separately so that it was less bulky. Love to finally see it!
Firearms are really incredible when you consider the engineering behind them. Sure some are total junk, but most are fully serviceable. I’m so grateful for this channel and the history that is being preserved.
Thank you very much, Ian! I'm always delighted whenever Soviet or late Cold-War era weaponry pops up here, because it's an area I find rather fascinating. Cheers!
A really cool take on an integrally suppressed handgun. What got my attention was the vertical recoil spring in the grip and the pivoting lever. Never put much thought into where the recoil spring would go in such a compact unit.
The German Luger pistols did something similar but worked in the opposite direction with an angle lever and an extension spring. The Toggle opens on firing which pulls a link connected to the angle lever....the angle lever then pulls on the spring until the action stops recoiling. The spring then pulls down the angle lever and the lever pulls the link on the toggle...Pushing the bolt forward and chambering a round ready to fire. This all happens in the grip.
The "Le Français" pocket pistols had the same system (way before the Makarov). It's the gun Beretta copied to make their line of tip up pocket pistols.
I remember first seeing this gun in mgs Peace Walker. It was my go-to weapon as it had a suppressor that would never wear down. Not to mention, I really liked the design of it.
@@Chastity_Belt Silenced PM would've been named PMB, and so if it's not - it's not. But I suppose you can't demand much from people who call Mosin a Mosin-Nagant
Ian, it's the first time I have to write that your data needs serious corrections right from the cover of the clip 😢 1. It's not a KGB wetwork tool. It was designed for Army, for field reconnaissance as a low-report weapon. Think of Val and Vintorez as its conceptual grandchildren. KGB had its own separate line of development, led by, among others, Stechkin. 2. Makarov has nothing to do with it except the magazine and some parts in the trigger mechanism, that was Army's requirements. Designer's name is Anatoly Deryagin. It's just PB (pistolet beschumny - silenced pistol) or 6П9 by army code. Despite it's rather weird look it's a well-balanced weapon, precise and very pleasant to shoot. Sits nice in the hand, points instinctively, notch and bead are quite readable. Those I held in my hands were very well made, much cleaner and precise than Mak.
watching this made me think of the military case atop two wooden crates in a mobile cabin near a dying rookie in cordon. damnit here we go again strelok..
I have tried Makarov PB in the Toman division traning site 10 years ago. It is much more silent than common pistol with attached silencer. Recoil is soft and operation is easy. Still my favorite pistol for all times.
Like the PM (Pistolet Makarova), the PB (Pistolet Besshumnyy) or "Silent Pistol" is still in production in small made-for-order numbers at Izhevsk until this day. Also, just like the PM, the PB was designed at Tula, but was never produced anywhere else besides Izhevsk. The entire trigger system, safety/decocker, and magazine are identical to that of the PM. Otherwise, it is a completely unique design.
I discovered this in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl back then but in Modern Warfare 2019 and COD Mobile, the barrel of Sykov a fictional name of Makarov (or Dobvra respectively) can be swapped with the PB type barrel, sort of conversion kit in fiction.
Ah! I thought I knew it from an old game! Haven't played STALKER in a looooong time. I have gotten to know it veeeeery well from spending a lot of time in World Of Guns: Gun Disassembly though
@@heffatheanimal2200 Ah, yes, WOG is a great app. Though they occasionally name various parts (especially suppressor parts) with odd/bizarre terms. Eg: calling the rear separation system on the VSS a "Gas Camera". I also love the app, but it's a weird little quirk.
“This is the silenced version of the Makarov…” “Virtually there are no parts that are interchange with Makarov” 🥸 Because it has nothing to do with Makarov other than the ammo and the hammer/safety lever! It was designed by another guy named Anatoly Deryagin.
Soviet engineers thought that baffles are needed to reduce the amount of wave reflections inside the silencer, so they just made simple partitions with angles between them
The PB pistol was not developed at the Tula Arsenal. It was created by designers Deryagin (pistol) and Neugodov (suppresor) at TsNIITochmash (rus: ЦНИИТочМаш - Central Scientific - Research Institute for Precision Machine Engineering)
The wire mesh can be impregnated with white lithium grease to further help with noise reduction. According to the old video of that guy in a hotel room shooting into his homemade bullet catch.
I remember when TFBtv visited Brügger and Thomet HQ in Swiss, and Karl Brügger in person made him test his Makarov PB. I was, and still am, astonished how the thing is silent for a 55 ish years old pistol. Even modern stuff isn't that silent.
The Makarov PB is a very exquisite variant of the regular Makarov, a classic Cold War-era pistol. The National Gendarmerie must have gone on quite the treasure hunt to increase their collection.
I would imagine it was at some point exported to Jugoslavia, Iraq or Afghanistan and then some French troops picked it and whoever was tasked with destruction of captured weapons thought "this is interesting"
This is one of my favorite Tarkov guns. I would use the suppressed stechkin more though. I do hope Brandon Herrera gets one of these and upgrades the suppressor like he did his VSS.
It is similar to a car muffler. It's just a matter of slowing the gas expansion and keeping most of it in the gun. The biggest problem is that the government will give you a long vacation if you try it. Some get an eternal nap.
Remember using that gun in Farcry 4 at Deplurs compound lol. Remember thinking that looks like a chunky PPK now in F4 it's sold without the 2nd stage suppressor on it for that you've gotta buy it and add it, but having seen a fair few integrally suppressed guns I knew that's what it's designed for even without the baffle tube. Great in game and I'd imagine irl too. Love to shoot one and see how quiet it is.
Glad to see you're back in Europe! You should get in touch with Alain Daubresse, he's the head of the Belgian gun collectors association and maintains the Littlegun website.
Contrary to common myths and a huge chunk of comments here, pb was designed for recon troops and spec ops units to silently take down guards and patrols. Basically, it fits the same role as vss/val, but it's 30 years older. Of course, it saw service in some spy operations, but the main user were the army special units
@@NotchFox you could say it is part of fudd lore in eastern europe where we consider Makarov so inaccurate you have better chance of hitting an enemy if you throw it at him.
Say what you will but there is something appealing about older Pistol designs regardless of where they came from.
although the old bolt actions have a rather... "repetitive silhouette", i find them pretty endearing over modern rifles (well, 21st century ones). probably because they have the wood and the curves lol
All kind of older guns are appealing, modern guns just seem kinda copy and paste
Tell that to the Linda
What’s interesting is that in 50 years the guns of now will be considered old designs, and people will say the same thing about our new stuff
@@clarkedawe3464 with how cars are evolving (I really hate the modern design some cars are going for) im scared of what modern guns will look like
I'm glad I found someone that understand suppressors and it's technology. Most people find the subject...baffling.
Oh how Droll!! 😊
...Silence fool!
Ba dum bum
You said it so quietly,may you say it louder?
Ba Dum Tss
Stalker classic along with vss vintorez
Cheeki Breeki Van Damke…😂
Hell yeaaah
MASLEEENOOO POIMAL
PB from the trailer cart in Kordon next to Tolik
@@sportyv1k1ng Cheeki Breeki Ee V Damki
I love integral suppressors and how they're design. They just blend into the given 'style' (for lack of a better word) of certain guns like the MP5SD and the Makarov PB.
They just work.
Yeah, they have a smooth transition from the body of the gun to the tube.
Though both suppressors you mentioned are actually a semi-integral designs.
@@vladcrow4225 Not integral, but derivative suppressors.
As val
@@romaliop Proportional i think
I got to see one of these demonstrated when I was in Marine Corps Intelligence School in 1988, I was amazed at how quiet it was
Love the old silencer stuff
what? I didn't see/hear anything
Suppressor
@@hellsinggaming1603no
@@hellsinggaming1603lol
@@hellsinggaming1603 Silencer
2:40
Many have been duped by that button. Not only is it deceptive, it also gives access to the recoil spring.
Truly advanced technology.
Hardly advanced . maybe for the 1960s
@@NotU-i9qI was being hyperbolic on that last bit but TBF, I really suck at conveying it. :(
@@paleoph6168 Don't worry we're 63 peoples to understand the intent of your comment, just that there is always that one guy that takes everything literally.
He did mention it was very like some of the Webley automatics, so rehashed old tech.
I think you're wrong. I have never heard of anyone pressing this button thinking it was the magazine release button. if you are stupid then you don’t have to think that everyone around you is stupid
The recoil spring setup is actually wild
I'm wondering how well the plastic housing for the spring within the grip holds up.
@@paulketchupwitheverything767 Not well. And it wasn't required to. For an intelligence service replacing (a very limited number of) plastic grips due to practice wear is absolutely nothing compared to the cost of injecting an agent in a position where this weapon would be used.
Same system as in the "Le Français" pocket pistol. The gun that Beretta copied for their line of tip up barrel pocket pistols.
@@andersjjensen But again imagine this very costly agent is doing his very costly wet field work overseas and his gun fails mid operation because its mainspring is housed in what i assume thin textolite grip. Big international yikes.
@@paulketchupwitheverything767 Yes. Very stupid idea. With so many aluminum based alloys they decided to employ plastic. Socialism in action...
I've been waiting for this video since forever. I really love that gun. Something very interesting you forgot to mention is that even though it's integrally suppressed, it can still fire and function perfectly without the suppressor part (unlike several integrally suppressed guns). They even made holsters that would store the suppressor part separately so that it was less bulky.
Love to finally see it!
I love the use of wire mesh in these older suppressors.
I wonder how the gendarmerie ended up this gun… probably a good story there.
just bought it from a weapons supplier that was based in Ukraine or Russia like Viktor Bout
Something related to Marseilles' underworld.
I would guess after the fall of communism that a KGB armory officer got light fingers and wanted some expensive nights out in Paris.
I was hoping for that story, oh well.
@@topcatcoast2coast579 You would be suprized how often that happens today.
Firearms are really incredible when you consider the engineering behind them. Sure some are total junk, but most are fully serviceable.
I’m so grateful for this channel and the history that is being preserved.
Ever since 2008 when i played far cry 2 this pistol has been close to my heart!
@nomad_boreal Cheeki breeki !
@@njones420 No, szto rozkazesh.
I just beat the game yesterday! That pistol is so satisfying to shoot, even when you get the suppressed MP5
@@garryghibli5993 I go back and play through it every few years.... I hope you were playing the latest Stalker:complete mod, makes it so much better.
@@njones420 Oh sorry, I was talking about Far Cry 2! Stalker is still a game I have to beat
I'm a big fan of that sight picture. Really clean and functional.
I can't wait for the silencer book to come out from headstamp.
I second that motion!!! 🤠👍
Thank you very much, Ian! I'm always delighted whenever Soviet or late Cold-War era weaponry pops up here, because it's an area I find rather fascinating. Cheers!
I love how his thumbnail and intro has never changed a bit for 7 whole years
A really cool take on an integrally suppressed handgun. What got my attention was the vertical recoil spring in the grip and the pivoting lever. Never put much thought into where the recoil spring would go in such a compact unit.
The German Luger pistols did something similar but worked in the opposite direction with an angle lever and an extension spring. The Toggle opens on firing which pulls a link connected to the angle lever....the angle lever then pulls on the spring until the action stops recoiling. The spring then pulls down the angle lever and the lever pulls the link on the toggle...Pushing the bolt forward and chambering a round ready to fire. This all happens in the grip.
The "Le Français" pocket pistols had the same system (way before the Makarov). It's the gun Beretta copied to make their line of tip up pocket pistols.
I remember first seeing this gun in mgs Peace Walker. It was my go-to weapon as it had a suppressor that would never wear down. Not to mention, I really liked the design of it.
Alright, admit it. This is the actual gun that inspired your logo, isn't it? Look at the proportions!
Lol. Good comparison indeed.
I think the gun that actually inspired the logo was the OSS dart gun
@@lennyjay8390 It was the oss dart gun
PM was designed by Makarov in 1948 in Tula - PB was designed by Deryagin in 1965 in Izhevsk
PB is as much a "silenced PM" as SVD is a "marksman AK"
But it is a silenced PM
It's based on PM design and shares some parts and ammo with it.
SVD literally have zero parts shared with AK
@@Chastity_Belt Silenced PM would've been named PMB, and so if it's not - it's not. But I suppose you can't demand much from people who call Mosin a Mosin-Nagant
@@Chastity_Belt modern vehicles are still based on a cart, but we don't call'em carts.
Ian, it's the first time I have to write that your data needs serious corrections right from the cover of the clip 😢
1. It's not a KGB wetwork tool. It was designed for Army, for field reconnaissance as a low-report weapon. Think of Val and Vintorez as its conceptual grandchildren. KGB had its own separate line of development, led by, among others, Stechkin.
2. Makarov has nothing to do with it except the magazine and some parts in the trigger mechanism, that was Army's requirements. Designer's name is Anatoly Deryagin. It's just PB (pistolet beschumny - silenced pistol) or 6П9 by army code.
Despite it's rather weird look it's a well-balanced weapon, precise and very pleasant to shoot. Sits nice in the hand, points instinctively, notch and bead are quite readable. Those I held in my hands were very well made, much cleaner and precise than Mak.
Всё верно сказал! Это пистолет для армейский спецназ старой школы
th-cam.com/users/shorts0pmQTRWzXf4?si=kX7qier3S2hlgHQ9
his video on RPG-7 was equally misinformed
Ian said 'covert', not 'KGB'.
@@klasodeth Title: 'Makarov PB: Silenced KGB "Wet Work" Pistol'
That may be true - but I bet Soviet intelligence agencies used this far more than any Soviet Army personnel. So, technically wrong but probably not.
watching this made me think of the military case atop two wooden crates in a mobile cabin near a dying rookie in cordon. damnit here we go again strelok..
I don't know why, but that thing is just beautiful.
Me To
It looks like it belongs in Star Wars.
It really is a beauty in it's own way!
I have tried Makarov PB in the Toman division traning site 10 years ago. It is much more silent than common pistol with attached silencer. Recoil is soft and operation is easy. Still my favorite pistol for all times.
"Take Makarov comrade, is now quieter than Soviet citizens at Billy Joel concert."
"Let me do my show for Christ's sake" lol
@@ZachHighwind It's not a true Russian concert unless someone kicks a piano over and someone is arrested for having too much fun.
"STOP LIGHTING THE AUDIENCE!"
Only when the spotlight is on them.
Is there a story behind this?
😆
putting the recoil spring in the grip is so clever, i love it
I have been waiting forever for a video on the PB. Easily one of the best looking silenced pistols.
Oh hey, it's my favorite pistol from S.T.A.L.K.E.R! Finally a FW video on it!
Like the PM (Pistolet Makarova), the PB (Pistolet Besshumnyy) or "Silent Pistol" is still in production in small made-for-order numbers at Izhevsk until this day. Also, just like the PM, the PB was designed at Tula, but was never produced anywhere else besides Izhevsk. The entire trigger system, safety/decocker, and magazine are identical to that of the PM. Otherwise, it is a completely unique design.
Your videos are awsome, it's really unique to find the unknown guns of history
I discovered this in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl back then but in Modern Warfare 2019 and COD Mobile, the barrel of Sykov a fictional name of Makarov (or Dobvra respectively) can be swapped with the PB type barrel, sort of conversion kit in fiction.
Ah! I thought I knew it from an old game! Haven't played STALKER in a looooong time.
I have gotten to know it veeeeery well from spending a lot of time in World Of Guns: Gun Disassembly though
@@heffatheanimal2200 Ah, yes, WOG is a great app. Though they occasionally name various parts (especially suppressor parts) with odd/bizarre terms. Eg: calling the rear separation system on the VSS a "Gas Camera". I also love the app, but it's a weird little quirk.
@@dark2023-1lovesoni lol yeah, I've seen a few of those and had a "dafuq??" moment. A tiny part in the FG42 (I think?) titled "Up boppin' down tab" 🤣
Эта пушка есть в Escape From Tarkov
my favorite channel talking about my favorite firearm!
thank you!
6П28 ПСС is now in production.
this would go hard as a star wars blaster
Maybe with a comically large scope on top
Defender Pistol MK 2. And it's just this thing.
Even without the suppressor it looks like it could make a mean hold out blaster.
@@cabnbeeschurgrand some greeble covered plastic grips
Interesting and very simplistic set up. Love the recoil spring placement.
Finally PB
Do never stop to make content about makarovs please 🙏
It is a nice gun isn't it
it really isn't worth any more content, because it has been beaten to death countless times
@@Elatenl hell yes
I'm also a sucker for integral suppressors. Great video Ian!
It’s an elegant design and looks well made
Really fascinating piece of engineering there, nothing overly complicated (as I expect from Soviet era designs) but effective.
😮 ...very nice..
Mom will love it.!!
Thanks, Ian.!!
🎉 Another great gift idea...
Hi, Ian. That design is one of my new "Favorites". Lots of clever ideas and a beautiful design. Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!
It's definitely cool.
The recoil system is a direct copy of the "Le Français" pocket pistols though.
“This is the silenced version of the Makarov…”
“Virtually there are no parts that are interchange with Makarov” 🥸
Because it has nothing to do with Makarov other than the ammo and the hammer/safety lever!
It was designed by another guy named Anatoly Deryagin.
Amazing that it manages to do so well with all of three flimsy baffles in the front supressor.
Soviet engineers thought that baffles are needed to reduce the amount of wave reflections inside the silencer, so they just made simple partitions with angles between them
here is the recipe: a weak cartridge and a rubber gasket seal
This is the Real Original!!
The only Makarov I have seen with a suppresor, had a .380ACP bbl swapped in place of the 9x18 bbl.
When the makarov pm liked the vss vintorez really much
The PB pistol was not developed at the Tula Arsenal. It was created by designers Deryagin (pistol) and Neugodov (suppresor) at TsNIITochmash (rus: ЦНИИТочМаш - Central Scientific - Research Institute for Precision Machine Engineering)
The wire mesh can be impregnated with white lithium grease to further help with noise reduction. According to the old video of that guy in a hotel room shooting into his homemade bullet catch.
Dude this is amazing
Thank you for not plugging your other platforms, i appreciate it. I know you can, and should, but that was tasteful.
Far Cry 2 flashbacks...
I had to mention this rare gem, great and very informative video as always
if it works very well and they can't really improve a whole ton on it, they probably still make it! The PSS pistol is also very fascinating.
Can always date a 50s-70s pistol by that purple bluing such a cool change to the pistol
What a cool piece! That thing is pretty much a Mak in name alone. I'd love a piece of cold war awesomeness like that!
this and the hush puppy have gotta be my favorite pistols
That was very cool. Thanks mate. Yet another, "I didn't know I wanted it until Ian showed me the gun," video.
I remember when TFBtv visited Brügger and Thomet HQ in Swiss, and Karl Brügger in person made him test his Makarov PB. I was, and still am, astonished how the thing is silent for a 55 ish years old pistol. Even modern stuff isn't that silent.
Now that is an interesting weapon! Thanks Ian.
Im embarresses to admit this, but, you just showed me how to take apart my polish p-64 "makorov". Thank you
Hope you know that p64 has little to do with PM, and trigger guard takedown is actually derived from walther PP
@@romannowak8830 ......okay
That's just neat! Probably my favorite take on a wet work pistol.👍🏼👍🏼
Fricking early gang coming in quietly
Early gang ftw. Also hail clan meth weasel
What you think this channel is aimed at Americans?......it's 13.46 in the UK .You know the afternoon!
Shhhhhh
@@nickjohnson710 yep
Shhhhhh
Quite a nifty design
Thank you, Ian! 👍
The Makarov PB is a very exquisite variant of the regular Makarov, a classic Cold War-era pistol. The National Gendarmerie must have gone on quite the treasure hunt to increase their collection.
Love to know how the Gendarmerie came by that...
I would imagine it was at some point exported to Jugoslavia, Iraq or Afghanistan and then some French troops picked it and whoever was tasked with destruction of captured weapons thought "this is interesting"
@@michalsoukup1021 That's unlikely that tool condition is too good.
I've had many starts with maks in Stalker games, most recently Anomaly. It sucks and I love it.
I thought I had a version of every Makarov there was. Now THIS! Sell me one Comrade.
looks really cool with just the rear suppresser section alone
I hade Heines Straight 8 sights on my old 1911 - I liked them 🙂
Holy cow. Droooool. Thank you Ian
Well this is cool! Definitely a educational channel ! Keep it up
It’s pretty brilliant. They built a gun throws ppl out of windows.
finally a video on my favorite pistol
This is one of my favorite Tarkov guns.
I would use the suppressed stechkin more though.
I do hope Brandon Herrera gets one of these and upgrades the suppressor like he did his VSS.
Welp, we're definitely on a watch list now.
One of my all time favourite guns, awesome, 😎👍👍
Awesome design 👌
I really appreciate how gun Jesus goes over all these weapons very informative
Well. I'm looking forward to Brandon Herrera showing his new suppressed makarov late this year.
Talk them into letting you shoot it a couple times in exchange for museum publicity and a cleaning of the fouled up mesh lol. Great vid as always👍🏻
Playing STALKER, getting headshots with this pistol worked pretty well in evading detection.
Thank you , appreciate it.
Since the hammer has it's own spring, I would call that the Mainspring, and call the one in the grip that powers the slid the recoil spring.
Interesting design indeed.
Awesome
I didn't know supressors were so easy to make! They are just hardware store parts
It is similar to a car muffler. It's just a matter of slowing the gas expansion and keeping most of it in the gun. The biggest problem is that the government will give you a long vacation if you try it. Some get an eternal nap.
It's easier than you think
You can take regular car oil filter, attach it to the gun using custom adapter, and it would work just fine
Remember using that gun in Farcry 4 at Deplurs compound lol. Remember thinking that looks like a chunky PPK now in F4 it's sold without the 2nd stage suppressor on it for that you've gotta buy it and add it, but having seen a fair few integrally suppressed guns I knew that's what it's designed for even without the baffle tube. Great in game and I'd imagine irl too. Love to shoot one and see how quiet it is.
Interesting adaptation.
Any more videos in collaboration with the Gendarmerie?
It's so interesting to see what they had/have in their arsenal.
If I ever get my hands on this, then years of muscle memory will leave me with a bakelite grip in one hand and an empty pistol on the floor...
Glad to see you're back in Europe!
You should get in touch with Alain Daubresse, he's the head of the Belgian gun collectors association and maintains the Littlegun website.
Integrally suppressed anythings just look neat
It's interesting to me that the later iterations, such as the post-2000 model don't integrate the enlarged magazines of the PMM.
That would require making something new: Something they haven't done in a while
I think he said that they started making these in 1967, so that is why this one still has the single stack magazine.
AWESOME!!! Such a cool pistol..
I love Makarovs. There's something cool about this gun, and those variants only made it cooler.
Thank you for your work.
Contrary to common myths and a huge chunk of comments here, pb was designed for recon troops and spec ops units to silently take down guards and patrols. Basically, it fits the same role as vss/val, but it's 30 years older. Of course, it saw service in some spy operations, but the main user were the army special units
I would have enjoyed a range demo of this.
Phil "Doc" Dater is a cool guy who knows many things...
Silenced Makarov. Because simply throwing it at enemy was too loud.
Your point being?
@@NotchFox humor
@@NotchFox you could say it is part of fudd lore in eastern europe where we consider Makarov so inaccurate you have better chance of hitting an enemy if you throw it at him.
@@WindHaze10Remember my father telling me the Makarov was so trash you could shoot an elephant at point blank and still miss.
Also, weak af 9x18.