We needed the Ice Flower for NSMBU, Hammer Suit for SMB3, To be honest they are fan favorites and for the hammer suit we haven’t seen that for over 30 years the Ice Flower people have wanted since the first Mario maker come on Nintendo we need this for the next Mario maker.
The goomba mask (and maybe the red pow) can be used as "spikes" for levels with bullet bill masks and propeller masks because they dont allow you to do anything midair.
Now that I think about it, you could totally use it in an "Avoid the Powerups!" style level. Just put a challenge at the end that's impossible without a certain enemy type moving.
@@StalinkTz To be fair, that's kind of the entire purpose of the Rotten Mushroom. But yeah, it does kind of suck that one of its better uses is as a deterrent lol
@@roshibomb4247oh yeah i didn't think of the rotten mushroom lol. but i guess that with the rotten mushroom it makes sense because it's made so you have to avoid it, but with the goomba mask, you don't want to get it because it's just too bad lmao
8:13 Just thought I’d point out another key use for both the boomerang flower and the cannon box. They can travel through clear pipes. It’s a very useful mechanic for Kaizo levels as well as puzzles.
I really like the idea of a video of yours addressing how many of the power ups could be improved. I really think it's a shame what they did with the frog suit. There are quite a few changes they could make in order to make water levels actually fun to play. I've seen many levels that use underwater guimicks that i really feel it's a shame that they cannot work with better game mechanics. The ice flower and the Penguin suit, would be a really great addition to water levels. I'm a Metroid fan, and i gotta say, I'm really impressed how a world like maridia from so many years ago it's so much better and fun than many underwater levels, even when they're well designed. I think a power up like that weird squid from super Mario Odyssey would be a great addition to make water levels less boring. I do enjoy them, but i can't denny i have so many complains about them that just make me feel upset of how they could be improved. Btw, dry bones for smash.
You actually forgot about the fact that in the NSMBU and 3DW styles, the Super Mushroom allows Mario to ground pound a Question Block/Brick Block with a coin in it ten times consecutively, instead of only one coin at a time. 🤓
Another neat thing you can do with regular coins and certain power-ups like the fire flower or Master Sword is you swipe at them with other power-ups to move them and have them activate note blocks containing certain items. While not ideal for traditional levels, they're great for puzzle levels.
Another good video on this is "Which Super Mario Maker 2 Power-Up is the Absolute Worst One?" by Ceave Gaming. It's (at least on some items) a very different point of view, while still ranking how useful a power up is. Definitely worth checking out, it's made in a, in my opinion, very funny, creative and yet still interesting way.
I've seen some pretty cool levels using the Goomba mask like one where you have to keep the Guma mask in some situations so the thumps don't go down or get you killed While others you have to take it off so they can bring you closer to the goal
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Pretty agreeable list! Personally I've found Cannon Box and Boomerang Flower to be hard to use well in levels, as they just kill almost everything in one clean hit (3DW does not have many bosses either) while not being as finicky as the fireballs are.
Ultimate battle between Good and Evil: Dry Bones in the hammer suit vs Rosalina in the frog suit in a clown car at night. If you want me to make an animation of this Odyssey, I will.
Not only do I agree with #1 but it should also be mentioned that it's essential when doing progressive power-ups that can be used in many different ways
I would really like your “how smm2 power ups can be improved” video. You do those types of videos really well. Anyways, this list was pretty great! Can’t complain about any of the list tbh.
Not to mention you can't put it in the other game styles anymore either (I mean, it didn't really do anything in the other styles, but it was still kinda cool that you could basically place a dummy powerup in your levels).
I do find some of the items u ranked lower very useful for troll levels. Ive used so many frozen coins and frog suits for my levels over the past year.
The frog suit is amazing for tech, experimental platforming, trill levels, challenges and all underwater levels. It is amazing and I will die on that hill. Plus in nighttime ground it can be used to make perfect randomisers
For some reason, the koopa car is defined as an enemy, even though it should be a powerup/item. If it were in here, I'd rank it near the bottom. In theory, it's cool. It speeds mario up, can drive on dangerous surfaces, and can be jumped out of at any time, so it can be used to get a height boost. But it has SOOOOOO many problems. For one, it's an item you have to design the whole level around. This limits its scope but Mario Maker isn't really designed around it either. You can zip through long horizontal tracks in no time, so it's tough to build meaty challenges around it. That's also because, it's got the Sonic problem where it's just too fast. You have to give a fair amount of warning so that the player could reasonably expect what's coming up and that takes even more time. And something about its jump feels clunkier than Mario's regular jump. I can't explain it. Finally, just it's base use is difficult. It always spawns with a koopa inside, so you have to kill him in advance if you want to speed up the process. Even getting in the car and starting it takes relatively forever. And you can't even put them inside pipes/bullet bills to respawn infinitely, meaning if you want to build a course where you need a car and NOT have it be too punishing, you need a LOT of reset doors.
I think you were understating the usefullness of the red pow mask, the 3 use limit can be used for puzle levels and it can be used to make dint hit the celing levels.
I just realized how this entire list is based upon how fun they are in mechanic based levels whilst fire flower is higher because it’s one of the most simple items
Great video! I was expecting the coins to be top 10 knowing your level desing and I agree with pretty much all this ranking. Also, I was wondering if you are planning to make a new level soon.
Only 30 items? Also I think I speak for everyone on this channel when I say that the Dry Bones Shell is the best. (We’re totally biased with that though…)
I love the frog suit because I really like frogs, but I agree it's not great on land. I'd change it to be like the Frog capture in Odyssey, keeping the hop, but Mario doesn't stop every time he lands, making it faster.
For me, the best item in the SMM SERIES is the weird mushroom (because of funi) and in SMM 2 its super mushroom because without it there will not be weird mushroom
I wish they developed a full SMB2 theme like it seemed they planned to. Instead, we just got a SMB2 powerup and a couple SMB2 elements, which is cool but a whole new style would’ve been awesome
I think an employee said that they were actually making concepts and thinking about adding it until it got scrapped because of time or something like that.
Hi! This was an amazing video! This video and many others from your channel are helping me brainstorm levels for a super world. I think it would help me and others if you made a video on note block tips and tricks. Again, thanks for the amazing content!
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We needed the Ice Flower for NSMBU, Hammer Suit for SMB3, To be honest they are fan favorites and for the hammer suit we haven’t seen that for over 30 years the Ice Flower people have wanted since the first Mario maker come on Nintendo we need this for the next Mario maker.
True
Not ice flower penguin suit
we also need all colored Yoshis and Koopas with their abilities
This is super obvious, but I couldn’t agree more. We seriously need those along with the penguin suit maybe as an alternate to ice flower
Ice Flower for all styles, Penguin Suit for NSMBU, Power Suit for SMW, Hammer Suit for SMB3, and Amiibo Mushroom for SMB1
Odessy: I do think this is more useful than the other items we've talked about so far.
Me: Right, that's how a ranking list works...
Don’t correct the spelling mistake, it will remove the heart.
@@RedstoneItems64 What spelling mistake I don't see it
@@Alex-hg7ek You accidentally spelled Odyssey as Odessy. No big deal
@@RedstoneItems64 oop
@@Alex-hg7ek why didn't you say oof (edit) instead of oops
The goomba mask (and maybe the red pow) can be used as "spikes" for levels with bullet bill masks and propeller masks because they dont allow you to do anything midair.
Now that I think about it, you could totally use it in an "Avoid the Powerups!" style level. Just put a challenge at the end that's impossible without a certain enemy type moving.
an item which it's only good use is not to want it doesn't really sound like a good item though lol
@@StalinkTz To be fair, that's kind of the entire purpose of the Rotten Mushroom. But yeah, it does kind of suck that one of its better uses is as a deterrent lol
Great level idea! But we are talking about the abilities and that can kinda be done with alot of other stuff
@@roshibomb4247oh yeah i didn't think of the rotten mushroom lol. but i guess that with the rotten mushroom it makes sense because it's made so you have to avoid it, but with the goomba mask, you don't want to get it because it's just too bad lmao
8:13 Just thought I’d point out another key use for both the boomerang flower and the cannon box. They can travel through clear pipes. It’s a very useful mechanic for Kaizo levels as well as puzzles.
The Fire Flower's simplicity is what makes it so easy to use. Because it's so basic, it's not just for a specific level type.
17:24
Man just noclipped into the back rooms💀
Unless you were looking at Mario it's very hard to notice, which I love.
@@cutestcreeper569 agreed
he recorded/screenshotted an empty room and overlayed that and a previous clip
I really like the idea of a video of yours addressing how many of the power ups could be improved.
I really think it's a shame what they did with the frog suit. There are quite a few changes they could make in order to make water levels actually fun to play.
I've seen many levels that use underwater guimicks that i really feel it's a shame that they cannot work with better game mechanics.
The ice flower and the Penguin suit, would be a really great addition to water levels.
I'm a Metroid fan, and i gotta say, I'm really impressed how a world like maridia from so many years ago it's so much better and fun than many underwater levels, even when they're well designed.
I think a power up like that weird squid from super Mario Odyssey would be a great addition to make water levels less boring.
I do enjoy them, but i can't denny i have so many complains about them that just make me feel upset of how they could be improved.
Btw, dry bones for smash.
You mean the gushen?
False!
It doesnt matter how many complainse you have. The reason you cannot denny is because you dont have 4 mana!
Whos Denny?
13:08 i must admit this combo was cool
3 years from now: ranking every level of all time.
So about that
Yup basically
17:23 he groundpounded so hard he dug to the earths core
Now I'd love to see an all enemy ranking list
For the icy coin, why cant we incase any item in ice? I’d love to put enemies or powerups inside.
YES WE NEED THIS
Yes
yeeeesssss!
Ok, let's all agree that IF Dry Bones Shell was an item, there would be no doubt Odyssey would rank it #1
(Dry Bones for Smash)
I love all the video ideas. if you wanna make all of them eventually, I 100% approve
You actually forgot about the fact that in the NSMBU and 3DW styles, the Super Mushroom allows Mario to ground pound a Question Block/Brick Block with a coin in it ten times consecutively, instead of only one coin at a time. 🤓
Another neat thing you can do with regular coins and certain power-ups like the fire flower or Master Sword is you swipe at them with other power-ups to move them and have them activate note blocks containing certain items. While not ideal for traditional levels, they're great for puzzle levels.
The star should be #1
You can make little timmy / hot garbage levels with it.
It’s especially good if you put it in a hidden block so only the creator knows where it is!
@@Odyssey_Central yes best type of level
It’s not a “little timmy dev star”, it’s a secret rewarding exploration! (It just so happens to skip the entire super expert level)
@@Odyssey_Central oh boy I need to go on my switch now to post and upload some hot garbage! (jk)
Another good video on this is "Which Super Mario Maker 2 Power-Up is the Absolute Worst One?" by Ceave Gaming. It's (at least on some items) a very different point of view, while still ranking how useful a power up is. Definitely worth checking out, it's made in a, in my opinion, very funny, creative and yet still interesting way.
Congrats on the sponsor! Also idk, I have a lot of dumb fun with the frog suit.
17:21 Caught me off guard with Mario clipping into the backrooms.
Same. What happent?
I've seen some pretty cool levels using the Goomba mask like one where you have to keep the Guma mask in some situations so the thumps don't go down or get you killed While others you have to take it off so they can bring you closer to the goal
Saw the thumbnail, didn't realize it was new until I saw "38 minutes ago".
I like adding invisible blocks with Frog Suits at the beginning of my levels, as a gag basically. So i guess that's an use.
Two videos in a row with sponsors? Nice going Odyssey!
"How can I help you King Dedede?"
"I need somethin' to protect my privacy!"
"Thats what we do best at NME!"
"Look's like we get it with a money-back guarentee!"
Lmao I get the reference
😂
Pretty agreeable list! Personally I've found Cannon Box and Boomerang Flower to be hard to use well in levels, as they just kill almost everything in one clean hit (3DW does not have many bosses either) while not being as finicky as the fireballs are.
Boomerang against meowser be like ☹️
I said it once and I say it again: this dude is one of my fav youtubers
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@@kaw57_ L like ligma balls
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Ultimate battle between Good and Evil: Dry Bones in the hammer suit vs Rosalina in the frog suit in a clown car at night. If you want me to make an animation of this Odyssey, I will.
Ok then.
Not only do I agree with #1 but it should also be mentioned that it's essential when doing progressive power-ups that can be used in many different ways
Congrats on the sponsor, and it not being... *shudders* Raid Shadow Legends.
Yes, do the other tabs too, for some reason your tier lists are so much more fun than other youtubers.
Edit: grammer
I would really like your “how smm2 power ups can be improved” video. You do those types of videos really well.
Anyways, this list was pretty great! Can’t complain about any of the list tbh.
Let’s go odyssey central gettin that green 💰
It's sad how hard the Big Mushroom was nerfed in SMM2. I love how it could also break walls in SMM1, and I miss the filter giving enemies mustaches.
Not to mention you can't put it in the other game styles anymore either (I mean, it didn't really do anything in the other styles, but it was still kinda cool that you could basically place a dummy powerup in your levels).
I love your videos odyssey
Keep up the great work
i still haven’t beaten the story mode
I dont blame you. Some of those levels are pretty tough.
noob
I just completed all the levels without luigi's help, a little hard but possible and fun.
congrats!
I do find some of the items u ranked lower very useful for troll levels. Ive used so many frozen coins and frog suits for my levels over the past year.
Same pfp :DD
Troll levels are annoying
@@JustChllin *never played tutajkk level*
7:46 this caught me off guard 💀
The frog suit is amazing for tech, experimental platforming, trill levels, challenges and all underwater levels. It is amazing and I will die on that hill. Plus in nighttime ground it can be used to make perfect randomisers
For some reason, the koopa car is defined as an enemy, even though it should be a powerup/item. If it were in here, I'd rank it near the bottom.
In theory, it's cool. It speeds mario up, can drive on dangerous surfaces, and can be jumped out of at any time, so it can be used to get a height boost. But it has SOOOOOO many problems.
For one, it's an item you have to design the whole level around. This limits its scope but Mario Maker isn't really designed around it either. You can zip through long horizontal tracks in no time, so it's tough to build meaty challenges around it. That's also because, it's got the Sonic problem where it's just too fast. You have to give a fair amount of warning so that the player could reasonably expect what's coming up and that takes even more time. And something about its jump feels clunkier than Mario's regular jump. I can't explain it.
Finally, just it's base use is difficult. It always spawns with a koopa inside, so you have to kill him in advance if you want to speed up the process. Even getting in the car and starting it takes relatively forever. And you can't even put them inside pipes/bullet bills to respawn infinitely, meaning if you want to build a course where you need a car and NOT have it be too punishing, you need a LOT of reset doors.
Frog suit is the best because you are even slower on the night sky theme! And it will take forever to get anywhere!
17:23 is unironically the funniest edit that i have seen in a long time
13:39 perfect transition
I think you were understating the usefullness of the red pow mask, the 3 use limit can be used for puzle levels and it can be used to make dint hit the celing levels.
If we get a new NSMB gamestyle I feel we'd get mini mush and blue shell, and if we get 3rd power ups, then mega mushroom
Now thats nostalgia
@Big Jr He means the og DS one.
mega mushroom would be absolutely broken
Odyssey: the propeller mushroom is the most balanced flight power up
Literally everyone else: this is so op why does it exist
I just realized how this entire list is based upon how fun they are in mechanic based levels whilst fire flower is higher because it’s one of the most simple items
Odyssey: Protecting my privacy
Also Odyssey : So I live in the USA...
We NEED an ice flower stat, I was confused why it wasn't in Wii U mario maker
The biggest addition that's needed for a sequel imo is a way to give permanent power-ups, having them be lost upon taking damage is way too limiting.
I agree
Great video! I was expecting the coins to be top 10 knowing your level desing and I agree with pretty much all this ranking. Also, I was wondering if you are planning to make a new level soon.
Only 30 items? Also I think I speak for everyone on this channel when I say that the Dry Bones Shell is the best. (We’re totally biased with that though…)
Totally the best
ok
That’s completely objectively correct
anything that nullifies the frog suits viability is great in my eyes
Yup
Mario maker 2's final major update didn't fulfill fans expectations :d
23:03 Phew, I thought we were going to have a video without Dry Bones for smash OR cool bowser dancing to electrodome
You can place goomba shoes without a goomba with an instantly exploding bomb set-up
Our boi got a sponsor!!!
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It's still shocking that Nintendo didn't add the Ice Flower but instead added the Frog Suit
7:47 the snipe! 😯
You are awesome, and I couldn't disagree that much of the mushroom being the best lol. 🍄
i agree with the coin, the fire flower and the mushroom so much
5:37
Mario: hell ye i got the superstar now your all gonna die
Muncher: and i took that personally
Next, I would love to see a the enemy tab!
Obviously the weird mushroom is the best item
The weird mushroom isn't in SMM2
bro i’d like odyssey to rank every element in the periodic table
lets go!!! im a huge fan i cant wait to watch
13:40 This was trippy 😳
I love the frog suit because I really like frogs, but I agree it's not great on land. I'd change it to be like the Frog capture in Odyssey, keeping the hop, but Mario doesn't stop every time he lands, making it faster.
The second you said Super Mushroom, my heart was filled with an undescribable rage.
cant wait for ranking all of the terrain section items
17:22 Into the Backrooms you go
I’m surprised you of all people left out the Dry bones shell completely
Its not an item though
@@Hithere-uz6wd but the goomba shoes and Yoshi’s are?
@@jtothepmoreno1010 yeah? The dry bones shell is in the enemies tab
Da king is back baby he neva miss
This is your first sponsor! You've really grown odyssey!
It's not.
When was his last sponsor then cutest creeper
Raid shadow legends on his previous video
Enemies time
Also I have seen a level wherw you need to swap between goomba masks and no goomba mask to progress
Yeah your not wrong with the super mushroom being number 1 to be fair
crab, oddysey has sponsorships :OOO
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No Dry Bones for smash this time, huh?
For me, the best item in the SMM SERIES is the weird mushroom (because of funi) and in SMM 2 its super mushroom because without it there will not be weird mushroom
I wish they developed a full SMB2 theme like it seemed they planned to. Instead, we just got a SMB2 powerup and a couple SMB2 elements, which is cool but a whole new style would’ve been awesome
I think an employee said that they were actually making concepts and thinking about adding it until it got scrapped because of time or something like that.
I love the videos but I want to see more content btw I know it takes time to make them but makes me happy watching them
Ok so where is: Dry bones shell, Koopa car, and the clown kart and fire clown kart.
Not items
4:04 I thought your arch nemesis is Rosalina.
Why not both
Are you thinking about making a Odyssey Kingdom ranking?
He sort-of did that already.
Something you can’t unsee: dry bones their throwing bones when thrown have a little line to the right
Tbh I think the super mushroom is the top power up. Its simplicity allowing another hit makes it a classic item that can fit into almost every level.
17:24 Mario clipped out of reality
Hi! This was an amazing video! This video and many others from your channel are helping me brainstorm levels for a super world. I think it would help me and others if you made a video on note block tips and tricks. Again, thanks for the amazing content!
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Deadass my top two is coins and the super mushroom. Solid list imo
Honestly, I agree with your number 1 spot.
I can tell you what are my top favorite flying type power items of the whole Mario series. It’s Power Balloon, Super Crown, Super Leaf and Wing Cap.
6:17 Erm actually, you are able to break brick blocks as Super Mario in all of the game styles, so therefore, you are simply mistaken ☝️🤓
turdfart
He never says brick blocks, he says Hard blocks and Question Mark blocks
20:50 pink coins are the only thing in the entire game to save when hitting a checkpoint
For a creative use for the Goomba Mask try the level “Bean Burrito: Line at the DMV”
Yooo odyssey got sponsored lets gooo
Next do enemies.
Then terrain.
I really need the ice flower in game. It could be used for some much!