Big Or Smaller Boat, What Should We Choose? - Ep. 175:2 RAN Sailing
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- A road trip to the island of Orust! This is the epicenter for yacht building in Sweden and we take a look at two very different boats, a Forgus 52 and a Najad 391. This is part 2!
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We are a Swedish couple who wanted a different kind of life. So we moved aboard our sailboat Ran, a custom built Beason 40 in aluminium and untied the lines in the middle of the Swedish winter in January 2016. There is no set route and we will go where the wind and our minds take us.
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One thing for sure, you have to love the Swedish craftsmanship. The Najad owner is fanatical in keeping his boat like new.
The 39 footer has my vote. The shape it is in might be more cost saving then getting a cheaper one would be. The "board meeting" is another great presentation of how we should be as married couples. Looking forward to viewing others and the final decision.
Greetings from Seattle. I agree 100% with your findings even before watching the end. IMO something in-between those two size wise (42'-48'). The 39' had beautiful finish work and attention to detail but agree, too small for what your plans are. Be patient, keep looking, you will find the right one, you have some time with the baby coming & all that comes with it. When it's the right one, you will know the feeling. Exciting times ahead, the baby will provide you will more happiness than you can ever imagine. Good hunting!
Both boats are beautiful, but neither seemed practical for your needs.
Thank you for letting us vicariously boat shop with you! I can’t wait for the next episode!
I am not a sailor but I am thinking go bigger as when your baby gets bigger and more mobile you will need so much more space than you can imagine at this stage. The stuff you need for little ones is vast. Why sell your old boat for one similar in size? You would have been better keeping Ran surely. Hoping you find the perfect home soon so you can be settled once your baby arrives. I am thoroughly enjoying seeing the boats, I love seeing the different layouts. Thanks for bringing us along. Xx
85,000 subscribers, lets each give these kids $10, which is nothing to us, everything to them. They buy the boat of their dreams and they continue inspiring us along the way?? Sounds so simple. I'll start by visiting their patreon account.
Let's do it!
My favorite was the Najad. I love hearing the Swedish being spoken. Thanks for the subtitles. :)
It was fun to hear you work through a difference of opinion on the importance of condition. Great video.
Jag tycker om de talar svenska :-) .. somevenglish terms I have to translate as well .. upholstery .. Klädsel .. bekleding. Förlåt.
Consider to look for boats in Greece, there they are much cheaper than in the north and you get the same brands. there are stored thousands of boats just on the ionian side, I think about 10% are available.
I appreciate the maturity of your conversation and the discernment process generally. It is clear that the choice process is complex given the many factors at play. Such a relaxed and ultimately humble and sincere presentation. A most interesting process. Thank you for sharing it so openly.
Did anyone else see that Johan was rooting for a fixer upper.. he loves to make it his own😁
The same boat, same condition, same price, only in 15 meters---- perfect. Be patient, she’s out there waiting on you to discover her. All the best. You two make “ the best “ couple I’ve seen in years. I’m sure your baby will be gorgeous. 👍
I had a 55 ft boat with teak decks purchased new back in 1985. If I were buying again I would try to avoid teak decks, maybe just the cockpit. They look beautiful and feel great underfoot but require a lot of cleaning and elbow grease to keep them looking clean. After trying many different solutions to keep them clean I eventually came to the conclusion you could not go wrong with plain old Tide soap. I would also avoid any on deck wood varnishes. There are always more than enough other maintenance chores to keep up with without adding on deck teak and varnish. Just my two cents on my preferences and wishing I was still young enough to be contending with these decisions again myself. Really enjoy your videos and by far one of my favorites.
The split bed, nope.
I do watch sailing videos since many years. From all the interiors i have seen, the layout of SV Delos seems to be the best, also the cockpit.
I agree, but those are like hens teeth to find... Now if you had upward of 600K to play with you can definitely find one...
Good conditions Super Maramu from the nineneties can be found for less than 200 000€, slightly over their budget! But they are the safest boats, with the steering well protected.
Amel Super Maramu, perfect!
So many cool things for you two to think about and plan for. From what the two of you have shown us, your child will be starting boat projects, climbing the mast, planning passages and delighting in Nature in just a few short years. One other very important thing: someone very close to you will probably give the baby a very noisy toy, or some music that is cute at first but you will want to throw overboard when you hear it the 1,001st time. A bigger boat helps with this.
I think both had there pro's & con's, but as you both agreed to, to small. It is so nice to watch 2 people, that work as one, you can see the love & the soul mates you are.
Cheers Swany
The Najad 441 would be perfect .... fast forward a few episodes and whoa - look what we have here! Thanks!
The Najd was hands down the winner. The other boat was way too claustrophobic.
This is great. Really interested in learning more about the lineup of affordable Swedish yachts.
Bigger boats = Bigger expenses :)
One should go for a small as possible boat that is big Enough (sailing comfort and living comfort).
Boats are the the perfect concept that displays compromise :)
If it was me... I would choose this Najad 391 if we had the money. Such a beautifull boat, and what a condition ! (for a 20 year old), and spacious for the size.
In search for something bigger... You might also want to check out the older Trintella 44 (if you can live with an older boat = more work and expenses in maintenence/restoration)
Or the Hallberg Rassy 42 (i personally think the 42E is more pretty than the 42F, even though the Freers model is known to be faster and more modern) 42F is Maybe a better purchase, even though the price is higher.
We are looking at 35-38 foot(max) but we are newbies (we look at the HR Rasmus 35 or the more expensive 352) And we are 3 (two plus a little babygirl)
Good luck to all 3 of you.
Najad was in awesome condition! Great boat at a great price!
Timing is everything! You will find that perfect vessel!!
The Najad 391 is my dream boat. If I were there, I'd buy it in a New York minute.
I understand your pride in Sweden's ship building history and I agree you should be proud. However, have you considered an Amel. Wonderful access for maintenance and fairly well protected sailing position. The watertight compartments might come in handy also.
Amel’s are pricey and they hold their value
Interior layout not the best out there..
There are other boats that don't resemble busses..
Sorry..
Mooi dat overleg, gesprek, en jullie overwegingen. Thx. for sharing: your talk, and considering moments afterwards.
Thank you for sharing this, I enjoyed it a LOT! S/Y Malin is a beautiful and truly fantastic boat and the owners gem. I would know, he named it after his daughter which is me. :)
Haha! That’s so cool! 😂 It’s a small world. Very nice boat indeed and name 😉. Cheers!
Sweet! And it is a beautiful boat.
That is so cool, she is a fantastic boat!
That's what a proper couple does!
We just went through the same sort of search on our trip from Canada to the Bahamas and back again. We realized early on that our 32 footer was too small. We settled on a Bristol 41.1. I would encourage you to have a look at these boats. At 41, 43 and 47 feet there will be a size and layout to suit you. We did look at Swedish built boats like Najad and Hallberg Rassy. We decided not to pursue these boats because the headroom was too low in all the ones we viewed. The Bristols have very good headroom throughout and all have the flexibility of a centerboard. You can see the boat we bought on our TH-cam channel. Whatever you decide on, remember that the search is the fun part. We hope you enjoy your journey. Chris and Debbie.
I'd go for an up to 50-foot wooden boat - nothing larger. A yacht has no soul if it's not wood. Besides aesthetics, there are many advantages to wood. It's durability for one.
Definitely a cutter. Winching in two smaller sails is easier than handling one big sail. A Marconi rig as it's better for sailing on the wind. I'm in two minds about a ketch or sloop. A ketch allows more sail and more combinations going downwind.
I liked the idea of having a steering station out of the weather.
Consider lithium batteries; they allow you to install every safety device, including a radar, you'll ever need.
And I agree with Malin. Many boats are gloomy below deck. Brown varnished wood is used apparently to make the craft look more authentic. Lighten it up. Paint the bulkheads and cabin ceilings white. Carpet the sole, especially when you're sailing up North and install a heater.
A workbench for Johan would be a boon as would a more spacious engine compartment.
Good luck!
It's really impressive to see how much more attention to detail there is in the Swedish built boats. The joinery and woodwork was stunning in both boats. I understand clearly now why you've directed your search there. Keep at it! Best of luck...
Keep looking and be happy. Your boat is closer than you think. When you see it you will know very quickly.
Thanks for sharing your boat hunting!
My opinions - 1)time is on your side, look at MANY, and don't feel rushed or sign up to something that you already KNOW there are significant things that are not right for you;
2)"smaller is better" because although the feeling of bigger and more room is nice when boat hunting, all of this needs A LOT MORE time, effort and $$$'s to run, maintain, extra fee's for length, etc, etc. which will all come home to roost especially in the harshness of sea life.
This is, of course, if your plans will STILL be to continue your global sailing adventures,.... which you may find change significantly once you have a young mum and baby onboard.
All the very best with your decisions and the birth of your baby! 🙂🥂
The right boat will appear moments from now... All 3 of you will love it
hello Ran. I am french and excuse me for my english. I have travel with my family during 2 years and live in board during 6 years. I think that you must choice a new boat whit 3 cabins. 1 for you, 1 for your baby, and 1 for your family or friends. my boat 41 feet. and in board: my wife and 2 children. 3 cabins. but I think, the best is 45 feet. I said no for forgus52 and naiad 391. thank you for your videos.
That was a good conversation about the boats. Malin knows what she wants, and, she will get it. Just don't rush into a hurried decision. With the baby on it's way, you will have time to continue shopping around.before you're ready to set sail again. Good luck.
13:58 "Najad 441 would have been perfect" congrats Malin & Johan on finding Ran 2~!! =D so happy for you guys
For the new boat: if you liked the najad you should also look at the designs by van de Stadt and Koopmans. For example the van de stadt 44 design with the center cockpit or the Koopmans 46. Maybe not all the glamour and beauty of the Najad but designed with emphasis on seaworthiness and pracrticality
Look int a southerly 49 or even one of the 480’s. They have retractable keels and they seem to fit your style of cruising quite well. The southerly’s also have an enclosed cockpit if you want.
So impressed with how thorough you are. The first boat was really cramped. Especially the galley.
If it had to be one of these two, I vote for the Najad 391 for sure. Interior volume is not only a function of length but beam and fullness of hull shape as you surely know. I just looked at a Bianca Aphrodite 101 at 33' which had far less interior space than my previous Olson 30, so there you go. Best wishes for the baby and finding your next boat!
I have my self a Najad, very happy with my boat, can recommend!
For what it's worth, I'm really enjoying coming along on this boat shopping journey with you! Thanks for sharing.
Great time of year to be shopping. Good luck you guys !
I was watching an interview of a yacht broker by another youtuber and he had some really interesting info.
One of the things he mentioned is that on the East Coast of the USA and in the Caribbean, the best time to look is in the Spring, believe it or not. The reason is because that's when the sailing season starts to wind down. Everyone has to have their boat out of the Caribbean before hurricane season starts in June or July (for insurance purposes) and many boats go on the market at that time because of it. Combine that with the fact that there aren't many buyers, because the sailing season is almost over and you get a buyer's market. That's not gonna be the same for the Baltic, of course. I'm sure the sailing seasons correspond more with warm weather in the Baltic, than it does in the Caribbean.
I agree with most commenters, the najad is the better boat.
But also a few feet more will make all the difference for you as liveaboards
I enjoy jou vids hugely, greets and good luck!
Might I suggest looking for an Island Packet 420 or 440. Well designed and built boats. Fair winds.
Not an easy choice, I hope you are under no pressure to commit and are able to give yourself the time to search. You know it will come. Thinking of you chaps, good luck.
Like youve said theres alot of boat builders and places to see there. Dont be in a hurry take your time and find the boat thats just right for your family. I liked the Malin it just seemed the most comfy so far. Y'all be safe
I liked the 39...but yes...you need to be able to grow in it. Of course families go around on much smaller boats...buts time for you to go bigger. But maybe something 44 or 46 will be big enough. Enjoy the search! -Rebecca
The Najad is very well built and is in such good shape to just too small for a family. The boat I like best so far was Deerfoot, but at 68 feet she will be a problem getting into some marinas. And of course, the cost of docking and hull maintenance is going to be substantial. One boat I think you might want to look at is an SC52. Well these were very expensive boats when new there are some available and well maybe just over your price range, they would take good care of you. Well they are not heavy they are extremely well built and fast and easy to sail. No one should ever underestimate speed as a safety factor. Plus if you buy one maybe you can come back to the US West Coast and spend a bit more time here. I know a lot of your West Coast fan would enjoy meeting you.
I wonder whether you've anchored (no pun intended, really) on the larger boats since Ran was longer and you've been looking at boats upward of 50 feet. I really liked the Najad (Malin.) Maintenance and marina costs would be so much lower than for some of the other boats you've looked at. Good luck. I can't wait to see where this goes...
I spent most of five years cruising, mostly Central America and the Caribbean. I'd suggest you consider whether the boat you have could be handled by the minimum number of people you reliably will have onboard. I picked a 30' cruiser rather than a larger boat because my initial sailing experience was on a 65' boat (built in 1928 for the King of Denmark) and it took a crew of seven to race it. It took three people to get a headsail out of the cabin and on the foredeck. I knew that I was likely to be solo often and wanted to make sure I could handle the boat under bad conditions.
While cruising I made friends with a couple on a 50 foot boat and a couple with a 54' boat. Both couples needed extra crew when doing a passage. That meant leaning on family and friends to take time out from their lives, travel to the boat, and then make a big jump. Or hiring crew which is not necessarily easy or enjoyable.
What I saw a lot of in the Sea of Cortez was couples on 40' boats who seldom hung a sail but would motor from place to place, especially if it wasn't a run.
Perhaps roller reefing is better than it was when I was cruising but back then one saw a fair number of destroyed jibs after a big blow. The couple on the 50' boat I knew did the Tehuantepec Gulf passage, had their roller reefing snag, and came close to losing their boat. Just a thought....
Hi guys we have just bought our 2nd yacht this year and we did look at 2 Najad 390s. Love the quality but ultimately felt there wasn’t enough light below and with a heads and separate shower they just eat up to much internal space leaving it felling to us cramped below. We ended up buy a Finngulf 391. It’s perfect for us very fast but blue water capable excellent Finish build quality two large berths and one heads means saloon feels very large and has much more light. Not many Finngulfs in U.K. but where you are looking could be a few about.
Najad is a very good choice! We are so satisfied with our 405! Good Luck with the boat hunt!
We recently bought Najad 391 Intrepid Bear (search on TH-cam for her sales video) We love her, slightly different aft cabin than the one you looked at. One fabulous feature is that I can get a great view from my bunk due to the hull portlights. I understand you probably want to go a little bigger but if you’d like to sail a Najad you’d be welcome to pop across to the U.K. to sail with us. Good luck in your search.....
We looked at Intrepid Bear, sitting beside a Najad 400. We went for the 400. The slight increase in length makes a huge different... probably addressing RAN's issue with the bed in the back. I.e. The 400's can take one big mattress and one small. Also, there's a space ahead of the bed allowing you infill the little cut-out between the beds.... one giant bed!!
A big pro for us...We sailed a lot of aft cockpit wide and narrow transoms. The CC Najad is a world of difference in sea-kindlyness.
Another plus with a Najad of the right age.... The deck is foam (not balsa) cored. It doesn't swell when it gets wet.... so if Johan can turn his hand to a bit of teakolgy you can get an absolute bargain.
The 3 you've shown are all impressive. If I was to pick a favorite, #2, so far. Can't wait to see what you uncover in your search.
The boat search is great! Keep looking!
Hello Malin & Johan
Questions you could answer for yourselves are what you want and what would be nice to have. Make a list/lists.
1. Cruising costs, how much to get from on place to another, Marina services/abilities, price structure for going across Panama canal and routine PM/maintenance costs. From What I understand Panama canal is big difference in sizes (LxW) and weight. Ask for Insurance quotes to see where you stand before buying.
2. How long do you want to own the boat?
Forever
For future family of 4 or 5, what do you think you want for family size or paying guests and family visits.
Place to install gambrel type crib or baby hammock.
3. What activities you want to do from the boat while cruising or at anchor.
4. What kind of amenities refrigerator/freezer, hvac, storage, work area/space, galley area convenience and dinghy/paddle boards.
5. water-maker and tanks, how long can you sail or want to sail before having to make a stop.
6. How modern are the electronics/communications and easy of single hand sailing.
7. Power plant drive commonality, ease of getting parts and service world-wide, reliability reports. Generator same as above.
8. anchors, rigging, ropes sails (all these cost cash out pf pocket if not already there)
9. sailing area set-up for manned/womened use.
10. Cost of a complete survey.
11. Take shopping list with you.
Just some ideas, think of it like house shopping, which usually take 2-6 months before finding something. Talk to other owners about how they like their boat when you have your final choices. Don't let broker's pressure you all and get some of their reference of buying experiences.
JAM Good Luck
Even though I couldn't understand you, it was lovely hearing you speek in your language it has a beautiful song to it 😊
You will find the right boat. Keep talking about it and describing what you want. Keep looking. It is yours already. 😊👍⛵️⚓️
It’s all about personal preference, for me room and comfort as a full time live-a-board with a child would over rule the cost of maintaining a bigger boat. Personally I didn’t like nether one of those. Another great episode guys, looking forward the next!
Congratulations on starting your family; it’s a wonderful journey.
Everyone underestimates the efforts and hands-on responsibilities that are over the horizon for you as parents to a newborn.
Your instincts that you will need more social area space are spot-on. Perhaps other parents will offer their views on the advisability of actually having direct hands-on parenting experience before you purchase your next boat.
By matching your sailing experience with direct parenting experience, your formula for what you’ll want for your next boat might change.
A catamaran is a social area platform atop 2 hulls. This might work for you better than a monohull for the first few years; you wouldn’t be the first parents to compromise in order to raise their family.
You might want to look into how this is working for another famous sailing channel who are raising their family on TH-cam before you make a major financial commitment.
I wish you all the best. Thank you for bringing us along with you.
Great videos.
You are correct, what a change in layout and design can make comparing two boats or houses given the same space. But the Najad was a beautiful boat a very nice condition........Good luck!!!!
Love the name - indeed definitely a “sign”, love the engine room. So well looked after and great condition . Must be tempting even only at 39’ but early days in your search.
I like the second one better....I love these videos, it gives us different ideas on what we can look for. I don’t have any sailing experience so I’m going to probably start out with something a little smaller, I found a 31’ here in Florida at a very good price I think would be ideal for me to learn on and not have a huge overhead maintenance fee. Anyhow, I enjoy watching your videos and look forward to seeing more. Stay safe and may the winds forever be in your favor.
Well done ! Your views on space and "liveability" are so familiar to us (liveaboards for 16 years) Focus on the practical qualities of a future family cruiser. I'm sure you know what you want and we can't wait to see your coming family adventures.
You can handle a larger boat. You’ll need the space. When the right boat comes along, you’ll know it. We certainly enjoy boat shopping with you!
Loving the boat search series!
Najad should sponsor you with the new 395, that boat has everything. A 50/50 deal has got to be worth a portion of their marketing budget!
It had malins name all over it. You should of made her sit in the car 🤭. Looks like a nice clean boat. Maybe you should just have a look at a brand new boat just for reference. The 52' seemed amazing except for the below deck layout. I'm with you spacious and roomy. Maybe you can track down a sister ship with better quarters. Don't settle for nothing less than your heart's desire. 👍💕
Thanks for taking us along on your search.
I love Hallberg Rassy boats, for me the best cruising boat on the market.
Exactly!
Some years ago in Scotland we chartered a Jeanneau Trinidad 48. In all the years and all the boats we’ve chartered all over the place since, I’ve rarely seen better boats. We loved the large pilothouse saloon with the galley up at that level also and three cabins with a fourth adequate for kids or crew. Cutter rigged, it sailed like a dream, especially upwind. Occasionally on the market, usually for €100’000 or less. The only thing that would stack up would be a similarly sized centre cockpit boat with a galley in one of the tunnels beside the underside of the cockpit.
This is the boat for the two of you, buy it!
Definitely Malin was the better of the two for a small family. Could the beds be modified to fill the split and reapply a wooden edge rail straight across to hold a more rectangular mattress and thereby extend the length. Hard to find a boat so clean and well cared for if a couple of small carpentry jobs could solve a problem.
All these boats look great...
if you love the look of wood everywhere...
Yeah, I'm completely with you on those reviews. These are rather unusual and, if I might say, 'oddly' designed boats that would suit rather specific needs. I agree that somewhere between a 42- 48 ft would be right in your happy zone. I'll be following your every move with interest (and following you in a purchase)!
Wow what an engine room! I do agree that as nice as SV Malin is, you really need more space. Exciting times for you both, can’t wait to see what you find next. Cheers
Johan: Ddi you get to review the surveyors report on the Najad 391? If it was priced in your budget and you didn't need a larger boat would you have invested in this design.
Thanks for the updated on your new journey.
Nice video guys, bit of a quick tour but Najad are nice boats. Was my favourite boat at Southampton show this year. The more you look at the more focused you will become on what you need/want. Good luck with the search. Andy 🇬🇧
I’m not a boat person but I love watching sailing channels. I’ve just heard that catamarans have a much flatter, smoother sail without the tilt. They might have a wider, more open living space & kitchen that you’re looking for, too. Also, 45+ feet make the catamaran less choppy on the water. Maybe they are a much more expensive boat though?
Wow, you two are really doing it right. Maybe you could consider talking to a few cruising couples who have raised a baby, a toddler, and a maybe a teen on board. A boat has to fit the lifestyle more than a place on a plot.
Informative show. Keep looking and find what boat is best for you.
You could buy the 35 footer and when baby no.1 grows a bit or baby no. 2 comes along trade up to the 42 or 44 footer you mentioned. The downside is changing boats is always disruptive. Keep looking, the right boat will come along.
This boat was exceptional, but still not the one,... it's out there, and I am confident you will find it. As usual, another quality episode, thank you.
Yes, the 39 footer had the better layout. We have a 45 ft Southerly which we bought specifically for its swing keel for canal boating. However it has the split level thing which I am now seeing as part of my exercise regime. One thing that bugs me is that 20 year old boat designs seem to have narrow passageways, and looking at ours, unnecessarily narrow as I can see how to widen them all for more comfort. And yes the split aft bunk was my reservation. You two are still in the pre snoring, snuggling together phase of life so a good bed is important.
I’m really enjoying going boat shopping with you! I liked s/y Malin the best but agree that she isn’t quite right for your needs. Still, finding out that you could possibly find a boat about Ryan’s size but with a better layout is encouraging. Every extra foot makes itself known when docking and hauling out, doesn’t it? Looking forward to the next video!
The Najad was a beauty as opposed to the Forgus. And note that there were moisture in the deck regardless of if the teak-deck was screwed or not. That is also my experience, I think the blaming of the screws is a myth, the moisture damages seems to be in the same areas regardless if there´s a teak deck and regardless if it´s screwed or not
I know exactly the one you should get..., the one that fills your needs of course & the one you can spend your time in!!
Brady, you are totally awesome. This Atlantic Round Robbin voyage is going to change your new guests/crew a lot. It is going to be fun to watch you change a bit too, eh?
Boat shopping is a lot like car shopping. It depends on the one you fall in love with more than anything. The newer ones have all the comforts but along with them comes a heavy price tag like the Nordship or Amel . If you go older then with less comfort comes cheaper pricing like Hans Christian or Halberg. They are all gorgeous to someone. My advice is go for what you want then figure out how to afford it or you will never be quite happy with a second choice.
Joining the thread late having just binge watched and enjoyed many of the recent episodes. Worthy of a look IMHO are the Nauticat yachts (Finland origin). Very high quality (no balsa core), Selden masts, heavy layup, full size aft cabin, etc. You my consider the added safety of an enclosed pilot house a plus for the baby along with the benefits of an aft exterior helm for traditional sailing fun.
Good luck regardless. Just subscribed and will be following.
I have looked at a Nauticat 44, and I must say that is a very spacious and practical boat. Also the quality is top! Good for liveaboard. But I think that these guys are more into the "true" Sailboat design, which has better "real" sailing performance - especially upwind / lower windspeed. The motorsailer is a compromise. But the Nauticat 44 might be one of the best of the Nauticat motorsailer models, thanks to the higher sail area vs displacement factor. The 44 has a nice big pilothouse/deck salon, and has full headroom (+ free air on top) for a 1.90 mtr tall guy.
But with low breeze 50 deg upwind, you will need to motorsail with the Nauticat motorsailer, where many true sailboats will go on just sails.
I fell in love by first look at the forgus 52, well, needs little bit nodernising.
What is the you must have with baby on the board ?
Single handling setup sailboat (bow thruster, roller furler sails all control from cockpit)
Water maker, wash machine, generator.....
Boat size is going to be determined by your must have list
Just keep on looking, you WILL find the right boat for you. Your experience has taught you a lot and you will know when it is the right one. Around 45 to 50 would be nice, with a good beam but, FAST. You have time on your side ...... waiting for your NEW CREW MEMBER..... Good luck with your hunt for a new boat and especially with the BABY !!!!Greetings from SV Warlord,( Panda 40, Black hull,) Bonnie and Wilf, Powell River, British Columbia, Canada
Nice looking Swan 46 for sale in Finland.........(refit 2016).
Only sailed Scando and Finnish waters.
Possibly pick it up close to your budget......🤞
a youtube channel that documents peoples sailboat buying experience would be a hit!
When momma’s happy, everybody’s happy!
The Najd 391 is a beautiful boat, my favourite of the two. :)
I don't envy you during your boat hunt. No boat is perfect and the options are endless. It can drive you bonkers is you let it. I am looking forward to the next boat you check out. Good Luck!
Love seeing you guys on the hunt for a new boat. Incredible you bought that station wagon in that condition for $700.00. Like the first boat because the inside observation deck, wish they have only 3 cabins instead of 6. Good luck.
Hi Guys,If I were you, I'd look into the SHANNON 50. Build quality is as good as it gets, and you should find one in your price range. Only possibe issue I see is that you seem to gravitate towards a center cockpit arrangement. Best luck!